Xbox One X Performs Like High-End PC, Dev Says

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TankCrossing3111d ago

Overwatch? Really? Of all the games to choose as a graphical showcase, you're going with Overwatch?

ClanPsi13111d ago

Hahahahah

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Skull5213111d ago

I think my iPhone 7 plays Overwatch at 600 FPS on ludicrous settings....

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4Sh0w3111d ago

Yeah I was like Overwatch? I mean we don't need 144fps, but while Overwatch looks pretty with its art style it ain't no graphics show case. lol

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Timesplitter143111d ago (Edited 3111d ago )

@4Sh0w
"I mean we don't need 144fps"

Oh my. Wait until you start playing games at 144 fps on a regular basis... Since I started doing that, I can't even go back to 60 fps anymore. 144 fps feels like an avalanche of fluidity and responsiveness assaulting your brain. It instantly makes games 2x more fun to play. It makes games so tight and responsive that playing at 60 fps feels like your CPU is submerged in molasses in comparison.

The funny thing is I'm sure when 300 fps monitors come out, 144 fps will feel just as bad as 60 fps feels to me now, and just as bad as 30 fps feels to any reasonable person now. But at 300 fps I think we'll be starting to reach the point where human eyes can't really tell the difference anymore

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bluefox7553111d ago

@Time We already have. I've seen tests on Linus Tech Tips that show that most pro gamers can't tell the difference between 60fps and 120fps. There is a huge diminishing return after 60, which really seems to be the magic number as far as cost/performance ratio goes. Obviously 60 is a huge leap over 30, but 120 isn't such a big leap from 60. https://www.youtube.com/wat...

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Timesplitter143111d ago (Edited 3111d ago )

"I've seen tests on Linus Tech Tips that show that most pro gamers can't tell the difference between 60fps and 120fps"

well then Clickbait Tech Tips (and most pro gamers) must get their eyes checked because the difference is like night and day. I've seen it with my own eyes on my 144hz monitor. I've made test games that had a key to switch the framerate cap from 30 to 60 to 144 and it makes all the difference in the world.

You also have to keep in mind that the difference is way more flagrant when you're actually playing, than when you're just looking at a video

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bluefox7553110d ago (Edited 3110d ago )

@Time Edit- Supposed to be "average gamer", not Pro. I have not seen any tests with Pro gamers. That being said, it's not clickbait at all, it's a very large and well respected tech publication. Also, I'm not talking about watching videos. They test by having them play a game at 60 and 120, and seeing if they can guess which one the game is actually running at. You don't really think the jump from 60 to 120 is anywhere near as drastic as the jump from 30 to 60, right?

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TheOptimist3110d ago

And Super Lucky's Tale is a graphical powerhouse? AHAHAHAHA

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Lennoxb633111d ago

It's been 3 or 4 gens since devs stopped prioritizing frame rate. Continuing to bring it up console articles is stupid.

MadLad3111d ago

Said "console article" is comparing the console to a high-end PC.
High-end PC is able to handle insane resolutions AND framerate, simultaneously.

So when a developer makes such claims as the One X operates to that of a high-end PC, we are allowed to call the statement into question as to why it doesn't hold up to a PC even around the $1000 or less mark. Let alone an actually "high-end" PC. Sorry to take a stab at your ideals.

Think before you speak.

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OoglyBoogly3111d ago (Edited 3111d ago )

@SlapHappyJesus

I don't get the disagree's you're getting. If they say "high-end" then it needs to be high-end. If they mean the Xbox One X compares more to a higher end mid tier PC that would be correct.

ESPECIALLY considering the CPU...the GPU is ~GTX 1070 level or so (again, not high-end but damn good) but the CPU is on the level of a super low clocked Intel i5...if that.

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fathertime44643111d ago

Devs only go 60fps for concols because of the refresh rate of today's tv's.

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MadLad3111d ago

@Oogly

It's N4G.
Where the PS4 is a high-end PC.
But then the Pro was a high-end PC.
Now the Xbox X is a high-end PC, but screw Microsoft, also PC gaming isn't a thing and is overrated because we are a console-centric site.

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bluefox7553111d ago

@Slap None of the consoles ever were, nor are they now, a "high end PC". It's laughable that anyone could say that with a straight face. Most console games are limited to the bare minimum 30fps. There is nothing "high end" about that.

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SierraGuy3110d ago (Edited 3110d ago )

What are you talking about. It's been 3 or 4 generations we've had 60fps. Time for an increase. Imo the higher the frame rate the more responsive the game. Less frames increase death rate especially in multiplayer.

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starchild3110d ago

@SlapHappyJesus

"Where the PS4 is a high-end PC.
But then the Pro was a high-end PC.
Now the Xbox X is a high-end PC, but screw Microsoft, also PC gaming isn't a thing and is overrated because we are a console-centric site."

Well said. You summed up the attitudes of the majority of users on N4G very accurately.

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mark_parch3111d ago

but xbox one x does hold up to a $1000 pc and I would class a $1000 pc as high end

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morganfell3111d ago

With that statement you have shown you know nothing about true high end PCs.

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mark_parch3111d ago

@morganfell obviously some people can spend more than $1000, wasn't there an article about a year ago saying only 3% of pc gamers game in 4k. while that doesn't tell the full story about what peoples rigs cost I would argue 95% of pc gamers have a rig less than $1000 so I would say a $1000 pc can be classed as a high end pc. either way it's pretty obvious the xbox one x is amazing value money and games will look great

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ProjectVulcan3111d ago (Edited 3111d ago )

It's a mid range PC. Performance with comparable quality settings about the same as an AIB Radeon RX580 or Geforce GTX1060 in the games and examples I have seen so far, mid range graphics cards.

Forza 7: 4K 60FPS. Gears of War 4: 1080p 60FPS or 4K 30. Killer instinct: 4K 60FPS. Tomb Raider: 4K unstable 30FPS or 1080 unstable 60FPS. None of these demonstrate performance or settings significantly better than what those mid range video cards have proven capable of delivering on these games the past 18 months. What would be classed as 'high end' at this present time.

GTX1060 is an 18 month old mid range video card. 6 months it'll be replaced in the mid range lineup with something a lot faster. Nvidia Volta is coming.

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MadLad3111d ago

Do I need to put a build together right now to disprove that you're doing nothing but speaking out of your back end?

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mark_parch3110d ago

@SlapHappyJesus I would be interested to see a full build including case, controller, cooling system, cpu, gpu, motherboard, ram, 3d 4k blu ray player, hard drive, mouse, keyboard and power supply that can run gears 4 and tomb raider native 4k 30fps with high/ultra settings

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butchertroll3111d ago

Jaguar CPU is a high-end, isn't?

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Gh05t3111d ago

If the performance and benchmarks of the chip are similar to that of other CPUs then why does it matter what architecture it is based from?

"High end" is a scale based on performance measurements not a date or model measurement.

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AAWELLS093111d ago (Edited 3111d ago )

Performs LIKE a "high end" PC and all at $500. I think its plenty fine to call it that and this isn't some random occurrence as its been said repeatedly over the last few months. Sure its not the tip top of high end but they aren't claiming this either. You're just splitting hairs for no reason. It seems like you take this stuff too personally and literally.

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itsmebryan3111d ago

For all the haters. Would you prefer every article to say" It's much more powerful than the Pro!". That would get boring. Plus, none of you are devs so you have no idea what a Dev or this Dev considers a high end PC. So, if it makes you feel better. The X1X is much more powerful than the Pro. Does that make you feel better.

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MadLad3111d ago

Then the developer would say "It's largely the strongest console on the market", or "offers far more than what Sony is at the moment". What they chose to do was word it was to say it's on par with a high-end PC, though that's not true. It's on level with today's mid-range PC's, in the sub-$1000 range. Nobody in the gaming community would consider what they see from the X was "high-end".

It's about on the level with my 3 year old PC.

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masterfox3111d ago

lol overwatch, why not add Team Fortress 2 then to the challenge :D

zb1ftw7773111d ago

You've just highlighted the problem with PC gaming.

It has no decent games to show off on.

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MadLad3111d ago

The only people who claim PC has no games are the ones who have no idea what the indie climate looks like on PC.
Some of the biggest names in console gaming are hip-high walled 3rd person shooters, which the majority of console gamers gave up on a decade ago due to boredom.

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starchild3110d ago

How can you say that? The PC gets more games than any other platform and has plenty of great games to show off.

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headshotfrosty3111d ago

Yawnnn

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XStation4pio_Pro3111d ago (Edited 3111d ago )

I love how pc gamers always break in on articles about consoles to whip their d**k’s out. No console user cares about your rig. If they did, they’d be reading pc articles. It’s a conversation about developing on a specific console and how it compares to a pc (which everyone knows can be the most powerful - hence the pointlessness of your comment). Let’s talk about performance from a cost perspective. A relatively high powered machine for at least half or a third of the cost of a pc equivalent.

You wanna compare cars next since context doesn’t matter? Mines real fast.

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Imalwaysright3111d ago (Edited 3111d ago )

"I love how pc gamers always break in on articles about console"

Scroll up and see what this article is about. Do you feel stupid now? I would.

MadLad3111d ago

Compares the X to a high-end PC, then claims it has nothing to do with PC gaming.
Then ends his statement talking about context.

Did some fail grade school level English?

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starchild3110d ago

@balancetotheforce

Great comment. A lot of the people pretending to be PC gamers and using its technical superiority to downplay certain consoles are really just console fanboys in disguise. They shouldn't be taken seriously and certainly don't represent PC gamers as a whole.

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trainsgofast3110d ago (Edited 3110d ago )

144FPS why? So it was XB1X can't do 60FPS now it's 144FPS, keep moving up that goal post.

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Christopher3110d ago

I usually stay out of these things, but the fact is that graphics are reaching a plateau of advancement, it's not exponential growth anymore. There's also the fact that CPU use in games on PC require a lot more due to a huge lack of optimization that the optimized console environments are able to do similar enough to PC outside of the "best." There's also the fact that gaming concepts themselves are hitting a plateau, we're not advancing concepts like we used to. Partially due to the huge focus on consoles, sadly, which advance very slow compared to actual hardware.

So, I would agree that the X is pretty equivalent to a bottom end high end gaming PC. Even more is it gets there without the pricetag and with the smallest Xbox console.

I would paint the Pro as a top end middle end gaming PC.

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freshslicepizza3110d ago

"So, I would agree that the X is pretty equivalent to a bottom end high end gaming PC.

I would paint the Pro as a top end middle end gaming PC."

That makes no sense.

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Christopher3110d ago (Edited 3110d ago )

I question your knowledge of pc if that confuses you. You do realize there is a bottom and top to each range of PCs, right? It's not just all high end and equal from there.

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Low end

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Middle end

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High end

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Both are close to the dot between middle end and high end. XBO X has the RAM and GPU to push it over to high end comparable range, both are held back by CPU.

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freshslicepizza3110d ago (Edited 3110d ago )

@Christopher
"I question your knowledge of pc if that confuses you. You do realize there is a bottom and top to each range of PCs, right? It's not just all high end and equal from there."

Then why is a PS4 Pro comparable from mid to high end while the XB1X is comparable to a high end all the way down to bottom end? I question your knowledge of what bottom end PC gaming is. A better argument would be the Xbox family which would cover a higher spectrum of users comparable to the PC since the original Xbox One is lower end than the PS4.

Yes the CPU is held back but again the XB1X eclipses the Pro in this area as well. You also have to factor in it comes with 12GB of ram at a much faster memory bandwidth speeds.

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Christopher3110d ago

***Then why is a PS4 Pro comparable from mid to high end while the XB1X is comparable to a high end all the way down to bottom end?***

Because the differences in power between the pro and X aren't as vast as people make them out to be. The big difference is truly support and the extra RAM and that's it.

I guess if you think the X is somehow *way* more advanced than the pro you would be confused, but you would also be wrong.

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freshslicepizza3108d ago

@Christopher
"Because the differences in power between the pro and X aren't as vast as people make them out to be. The big difference is truly support and the extra RAM and that's it."

It;s more powerful, that's really all that needs to be said on the subject so even if its marginal (according to you) that still doesn't explain why the XB1X now also represents the bottom end of PC while the Pro doesn't.

"I guess if you think the X is somehow *way* more advanced than the pro you would be confused, but you would also be wrong."

Well we will soon see won't we? Digital Foundry seems rather impressed.

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sammarshall1023111d ago

And at $500 that's a good deal

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OffRoadKing3111d ago

No its not but keep telling yourself that.

ClanPsi13111d ago

If it did everything a PC could do, it would be a killer deal. Unfortunately it only plays XBoner games, which all suck...

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Robcha3111d ago

Its a better deal than the pro at 400

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OoglyBoogly3111d ago

@Robcha

Depends on your definition of "better deal".

If ALL you care about is third party games then, sure, for an extra Benjamin it might be worth it for the graphics...but outside that I don't see how the X1X is worth it over the Pro.

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MadLad3111d ago

As a PC gamer, it's a nice machine at $500.

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LastCenturyRob3110d ago

explain why you think is not a good deal.

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NoPeace_Walker3111d ago (Edited 3111d ago )

"I'm gonna wanna play all my console games on an Xbox One X for the foreseeable future,"
Say developer.

I think many gamers will also be doing the same thing too. Why settle for lesser quality on your 4K TV or even 1080p TV for that matter.

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Kribwalker3111d ago

couldn’t agree more walker

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SpaceRanger3111d ago

“Why settle for lesser quality on your 4K TV or even 1080p TV for that matter.”

There’s a whole fanbase that you could ask that has been doing that for the last few years now with a console that was also $500.

Ausbo3111d ago

You’re right, but the gap between the vanilla PS4 and Xbox one is much smaller than that of the X v. Pro

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DialgaMarine3111d ago (Edited 3111d ago )

@Ausbo It doesn’t matter; you spend the last 4 years talking about how 720p is just as good as 1080p, only to suddenly change face when you get the opportunity to spend $500 more on slightly better hardware, you’ve already exposed yourself for not being a gamer, but rather someone who’s simply infatuated with a brand name.

And on the note of “everyone only wants to play with the best hardware!”, please explain Switch, and why you all don’t simply move to PC? Fave it, consoles are, and always have been, about two things: exclusives and price of convenience. Multiplayer performance has always taken a backseat to which console people are more likely to buy the multiplats for. If that weren’t true, PS2 would’ve failed as a console, and millions of people wouldn’t have purchased multiplats on PS3.

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hamburgerhill3111d ago

Yeah and when Xbox and Xbox 360 (in many cases) were more powerful visuals didnt matter either. Even at the launch of this generation Xone had the games it was ignored. Basically what I'm saying s if you're going to attack 1 group you should be attacking the others as well.

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LastCenturyRob3111d ago

@ DialgaMarine... Seems you and Ausbo are not Bff's, so I won't go there... But, the differences between the X and he Pro go much further than just resolution where that was the primary difference between same versions of games on the Xbox One and PS4. The X is looking to not only deliver higher res overall but significantly better texture quality lighting and better frame rates in many games.To only bring up resolution leaves out far more of what the console offers. The difference this half gen when comparing the Pro and X are not slight. MS did a great job designing the X and delivering it an attractive price point is just another good move on their part. It's looking to be a very good console.

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DialgaMarine3110d ago (Edited 3110d ago )

@LastCenturyRob I’m sure it is. I’m not arguing against X; I’m arguing against the insane level of hypocrisy and deflection it’s brought out of some people. This is just my opinion, but sharper textures and higher res is still only a slight advantage; if you play Shadow of War on X vs Pro, yes you’re going to see better textures and better frame rates, but you’re not going to be seeing a difference like say Uncharted 3 vs Uncharted 4. The versions still look relatively the same, and is not going to offer a different experience graphically. Case in point: if you have to actually look for the difference/ watch a direct comparison video, it’s not a significant difference.

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OffRoadKing3111d ago

I think many gamers will opt for the better quality of PC over an expensive console they can already play the same games for. You know sense were sharing opinions and stuff.

Robcha3111d ago

most console gamers don't want pc's you make seem like pc's are cheaper than they are

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OoglyBoogly3111d ago

@Robcha

Considering sales, used hardware (if you trust it), the over all cost of games per year (I get all AAA new releases for ~$30 AT LAUNCH on PC)...no...PC can actually be cheaper.

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timotim3111d ago

We kniw this isnt true just by lookimg at the Steam surveys. Most PC gamers do not use a PC that can outclass an X, yet almost all of those PCs cost those gamers more than $500...

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@Robcha

You make it seem like everyone wants to run out and buy a five hundred dollar console to play games they can play on PC. See it isn't a matter of rather people do have those PC's, but the fact that they could and that's what hurts you the most. Just cause you cant afford it doesn't mean others cant. Thankfully Microsoft gave people the option to not buy their console.

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XiNatsuDragnel3111d ago

I believe it when they allow 144fps and compete with a 1080ti or Titan Xp

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Bigpappy3111d ago

why would you want 144fps on a TV?

XiNatsuDragnel3111d ago

I bro

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ONESHOTV23111d ago

Bigpappy---I guess some one never played a game over 60hz

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Nitrowolf23111d ago (Edited 3111d ago )

Duplicate post, deleted

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Nitrowolf23111d ago

Because theyre doing what they always do.

Read the first few posts on n4g, write the same post in their own word.

Not sure if people have noticed this about XiNatsuDragnel comments at all

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MH630433111d ago

X gone give it to ya!

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ClanPsi13111d ago

...right up the a$$, like M$ always does.

Elda3111d ago

LOL!

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threefootwang3111d ago

Salty PC fanboy is salty 😂😂

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ClanPsi13110d ago

@threefootwang How is PC any different? Windows and other M$ products are a great ol' a$$ raping as well. $80 a year for Office on ONE computer? That's more than XBL and all it allows you to do is type and make squares with numbers in them. Complete BS.

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threefootwang3110d ago

@ ClanPsi1

Sounds like your frustration is with MS as a whole and not just Xbox.
Newsflash: They're a company, just like any other company, they need to make money. Their business practices are no different then anyone else.

As for MS Office, if you don't like paying, download OpenOffice for free online, it's fully compatible with MS Office. On a side note I've never paid full price for MS Office, I got MS Office 2013 Professional Plus through work for $11 lol.

As for the Xbox One X, build me a PC that can play games at the same level of quality as the X at $500. I've been a PC gamer for years, and still am, it can't be done.

As for games for my One X, I bought a good chunk of games on sale or used, didn't even come close to paying a full fraction of the price. Which means a brand new One X, plus the 10 games I already own for it, still cheaper then upgrading my PC to run 4K.

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ONESHOTV23111d ago

A high end PC can play games at their maxed settings with out any compromises and at more than 30-60 frames while the Xbox x can not.but any way it's a good console for its price so enjoy for those that wants to push gaming forwards.

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thexmanone3111d ago

Its not the Xbox its the T.V. T.Vs can only handle a 60hz single. So until we get T.Vs that handle more, We are not going to see games over 60fps.

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ClanPsi13111d ago

Almost all modern TVs are at least 120Hz. Some are even 240.

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tee_bag2423111d ago

@ClanPsi1

No, just no. Internal Hz... not the fake interpolation junk.

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@tee_bag242

Tv's have had native 120hz panels for a while now.

Some Sony and Samsung TV's even have 240hz panels.

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TheColbertinator3111d ago

Gonna be a great day when we get that great PC gaming feature on the xboxonex : free online play.

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EddieT3111d ago

A high end PC doesn't run games at 30 frames per second

iDadio3111d ago

Most don't even stop at 60 now, I have a Gsync monitor and its probably one of the best purchases I ever made

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Aceman183111d ago

Meh

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tontontam03111d ago (Edited 3111d ago )

High mid low

It always changes.

Right now xbox one x is a mid end pc.

If you call xbox one x high end, then a pc with 1080 ti can be called ultra maximum end pc.

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oSHINSAo3111d ago

and where you left the Pro ? Xbox is always compared with PC,"Xbox one X is lower than a PC", but PS is always compared with the competition, "PS4 Is better than Xbox one", why not equally compared them?

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tontontam03111d ago (Edited 3111d ago )

Huh ??
what are you talking about?
why bring up ps4 pro?

I'm just saying that with the current state of pc gaming, you could say that xbox one x is a mid range gaming pc.

at least with that statement console only gamers will know that xbox one x is not at the top and there is another level of gaming performance available.

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oSHINSAo3110d ago

wow, you did it again

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5yb5n6u3111d ago

Finally, I can play yakuza 4k60 with xb1x.

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BassMan1253111d ago

Of course he said that. It's one of MS inhouse studio.

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Gh05t3111d ago

"Playful Corp. is an independent game studio on a mission to bring joy to the world, one game at a time."

Come again?

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abra5113111d ago

Performs Like High-End PC
mmmmm where have i heard that before

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DialgaMarine3111d ago

But what’s the point? A developer can tell “high end this and 4K that!”, but what does it matter if a) the console can only play games that have to cater to lower end hardware, and b) the few exclusives in its lineup are lackluster as all hell. This is a $500 console, and all MS is doing is alienating the 30+ million people that were suckered into buying a Xbone, by using such aggressive marketing for it.

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marquisray3111d ago

people talking about price butthe psvr by it self cost 400 when it first came out, so 400 for the pro and 400 for the vr, wow lol

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ClanPsi13111d ago

And?

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windblowsagain3111d ago

People buy a console for it's exclusives and cost.

Xbox x won't do a thing.

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ONESHOTV23111d ago

don't generalize third party makes up 95% of the market exclusives are no were close to making the same amount of money as third party

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Gh05t3111d ago

By that reasoning then every console gamer alive would own a PS4, but they dont, so...

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chris2353111d ago

dude is forgetting that this gen is a very weak one. i‘d rather chop off both my thumbs than going back to this gen‘s games. i am already happy when there wil be one more game until the end of year that will be worth my time and money. dude is acting as we were living in the golden years of gaming.

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Many-hat53111d ago

The argument over whether to choose PC or console, really is just personal preference, and funds. Over the years I've supported both 'camps', but ultimately, I settled on consoles, and I'm fully aware of the sacrifices that currently means. I kind of view it like this. High end PC = going to the cinema. Ultimate experience, best picture, best sound etc. But the cost of entry is inconvenience and effort. Console= Same movie at home. Graphics are ok, sounds not bad, but it's a lot more immediate and intimate. No hassles! X1X, a high end PC? Whatever. Enjoy what you choose, and the chats with others gamers, about games and gaming gear. That's what it's is really about.Isn't it?

corroios3111d ago

From 2011

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OffRoadKing3111d ago

LOL, love the bought and paid for propaganda Paul, you can play your console games where you like but the fact still remains your game and just about every other game that's on xbone x can be played on PC, good effort though, checks in the mail I'm sure.

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Gh05t3111d ago

How much are you being paid to go into articles just to stir crap up? I am legitimately curious as I know some people who need jobs and that one seems super easy.

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OffRoadKing3110d ago

Here's a job for you, look up the definition of the word irony you might learn something about yourself.

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ShadowWolf7123111d ago

So this dev has never used a high-end PC, I see.

Also, why am I supposed to be surprised that a guy who has an exclusivity deal with MS is fluffing their console?

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Donjune3111d ago

Jealousy is so obvious

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ichdich3111d ago

and that is why I want an X.

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ichdich3111d ago

And at $500 that's a good deal

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NohansenBoy3111d ago (Edited 3111d ago )

What's there definition of a "high end PC" though? Gotta read the fine print y'know.

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headshotfrosty3111d ago

Makes sense. It has the guts so why wouldn't it be. Yea it's not going to beat an ultra PC setup but for $350 after trade in it's a steal. Multi-plats, which there are tons of, will be great and the few exclusives will shine. My bet is that this is the first step in MS getting their collective s.h.*.t. together-hopefully. Would be nice to see some solid exclusive support to bring back the glory days of creation ala OG Xbox. Also, gonna be interesting to see Sony conter with the PS5. All I can say is my 4k HDR has been ready for a year plus now for all of it. Bring it on!!! #gogame #nohate

OpenGL3111d ago

Not really, I own a high-end PC and there's not a game out that I can't run at 60fps.

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kevnb3111d ago

way to take a comment way out of context and make it the title of the article.

Sm00thNinja3111d ago (Edited 3111d ago )

God I love that the devs of N4G can ALWAYS just disregard things their little minds don t want to hear. Quite a few devs have said this now and you can always push far more with a console than a PC. HELL THE LAST OF US still looks better than most games running on PC imo. In the right hands the Xbox One X will be a monster!

Actual developers > self-proclaimed devs of N4G

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deividpaulo3111d ago

The Xbox one X is already dead.

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oSHINSAo3111d ago

and your tears are alive

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Elda3111d ago

Of course he would say that,what developer that has their game exclusive on a console wouldn't say that.One hand washing the other.

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OC_MurphysLaw3111d ago

Gaming will never change... the insecure will always rail against something introduced that is seemingly threatening their choice of direction. Avid Hardcore PC gamers "that isn't a high end PC performance" Extreme Sony fans "There are no good exclusives"... you can all relax. Your choices are great for you and nobody is going to come in the middle of the night and take away your stuff. For those looking for a higher end console experience the Xbox X looks to be the device to deliver that. Remember...this wont make PC elite rigs or Playstation consoles suddenly obsolete...your e-penis's are safe and you can relax about your choice. It's all OK.

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Tsar4ever013111d ago

I'm not disputing XB1X's power advantage over the Pro hear, But Come'on man, how typical for a First Party Developer to harp praise over the console they're exclusively developing for.

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RodimusJ3111d ago (Edited 3111d ago )

Good for those getting a Xbox One X I guess.

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ToonarmY3111d ago

Phahahahha this is quite a statement that I await to be totally false :D

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constantine_man3111d ago

>Super Lucky's Tale developer

Oh, you mean the developer who's game is getting published by MS and is an Xbox console exclusive? Makes sense.

Also, I don't think I've ever seen a high end PC that runs games at 30fps.

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Dragonscale3111d ago

Strange, didn't realise you could make a top end PC with such a crappy cpu. My bad lol.

bluefox7553111d ago

No it doesn't. High end PCs run games at 60, 120, or even 144fps. Xbox One X runs most games at 30. That's the bare minimum of performance, and equivalent to a mid-range gaming PC. Can we stop the dishonesty, please?

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DaGR8JIBRALTAR3111d ago

Their game is not taxing on the hardware at all tho. Now AAA titles at 4k/60fps....that's high end pc shit.

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WheatBread3110d ago

If it can't do 144fps, then it's not at all like a high-end pc.

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Wotbot3110d ago (Edited 3110d ago )

You will always get better results on fixed hardware being optimised. Comparing the component parts is only one variable.

The One x can probably achieve the same results as a high end PC, it doesn’t mean it has the same components as a high end PC, it just achieves it.

DillyDilly3110d ago

The next XBOX should be a Console / PC hybrid & have a WIndows 10 mode

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Mkai283110d ago (Edited 3110d ago )

Well I agree to some degree, thing is.. Most games are better optimized on consoles, Forza 7, Horzon 3 from console to PC was proof of that. But to perform like and high end, Xbox One X would have to do everything a High End PC can do. For instance Gears 4 Campaign is 4K 60fps Ultra settings on High end PCs. Xbox One X is 4K 30fps, and thats not including if its using ultra and insane graphics settings.. I heard they will do 1080p 60FPS campaign, but if they cant perform like this https://youtu.be/osP4LeFSMk... Then people can't say it performs like an High end..

If every PC gamer had the same hardware, like an i7 6700k and a GTX 1080. PC games would be better optimized, because developers would be developing for that specific hardware to get the most out of that. But I suppose the beauty of PC is everyone has options on hardware.

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liran3110d ago

at 30fps - high end my a$$

Trekster_Gamer3110d ago

Xbox One X the ultimate console power in the universe I suggest we use it!!!

Snez3110d ago

Multiple outlets have reported in the past that the Xbox X is comparable in terms of power to a GTX 1070. Tech savvy people taking apart the specs have commented that it will run slightly weaker than this.

For people who don't know much about tech, a 1070 is not a "high end" PC. It's on the higher end of mid-range, but it's widely considered a card of choice for people who want a powerful budget build.

The Xbox X does not run like a high end PC. People saying this are either paid off by Microsoft or have never owned a high end PC in their life.

I can't say this enough, but with the additional money you spend on paying for multiplayer, paid mods and weaker sales you'd save just getting a more powerful PC. Thanks to play anywhere it's not like you'll miss anything.

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Tazzy3110d ago

The thing I don't get is hes developing Super Lucky Tales for Xbox One X and PC of course hes going to say great things about the Xbox One X and hype it. To compare it to a high end PC is wrong I high end PC doesn't do checkerboarding and it can run games like Fable Fortune at 4k 60fps like nothing the developers are trying to get it to hit that same with Super Meat Boy those games should hit that resolution and framerate like nothing maybe they can't because the Xbox One X isn't as powerful as they're saying.