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Xbox One X Won’t Have A ‘Boost Mode’, UI Will Undergo Less Major Changes

Microsoft's Mike Ybarra notes that there will be less major changes in the console's UI.

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SpaceRanger3138d ago

“As for the user interface and having less overhauls, Ybarra told one Twitter user that the plan going forward would be to emphasize stability.”

I doubt that. They’ve changed the UI multiple times leading to a console with no UI identity.

And for stability, I’m guessing Xbox fanboys should hold their tongue now that MS is following Sony’s focus on stability.

Chris123138d ago

That is some spin on the story. You think a boring crossbar has an identity? Trying to enhance an experience > boring.

ninsigma3138d ago

If they have to constantly "enhance the experience" then they obviously haven't got it right yet.

Chris123137d ago

Improving technology is always about enhancing the experience, otherwise you could say the same for virtually any piece of hardware, electronics or software. That's a really poor argument in this field.

SpaceRanger3137d ago

Identity is something that can be easily identified. How is anything of what I said a “spin on the story”

You talk about enhancing experiences, yet with each change they take away and change enhancements. So I’m not sure what point you’re making.

freshslicepizza3137d ago (Edited 3137d ago )

Boost mode does not do things like supersampling. It's obvious Microsoft took extra care and time doing it right. All while giving developers ample notice so that new owners have lots to play with added benefits from day one.

King Nezz3137d ago (Edited 3137d ago )

I always wondered what's the big deal with Sony's "XrossMediaBar". I think it's the worst UI. Sure, it does what it is supposed to do. I just think it's boring and bland.

Unspoken3137d ago (Edited 3137d ago )

"Your best teacher was your last mistake."

This is about the refinements and combination of Windows 7 and 8 UI elements and thus 10's final UI form. They have learned well. UI identity...that's a new one.

I think you misspelled. It's stale, not stability.

4Sh0w3137d ago

Well if constantly improving means "no UI identity", I'll take constantly improving over stagnate, boring, less improvements but-it-has-an-identity-UI any day.

gamer93137d ago

I have never seen so many disagrees to 1 user in a comments section before. Maybe best for SpaceRanger to type "Sorry, it looks like i was wrong"

Wintersun6163137d ago

Boring? Why does a UI need to be fun? Do you want to manage your way through a menu by playing tetris? If it's just the looks you don't like, there are thousands of themes and backgrounds to make it look less boring. The most important thing in any UI is functionality; finding what you need fast and with ease, and that's what crossbar menu does well. I don't think you need any more than that. When I want to have fun, I play games.

Also Chris12, you just answered your own question by associating crossbar with Playstation. Duh.

Chris123137d ago

@Wintersun616 - because I own a Playstation. Duh!

indysurfn3136d ago

For those that did not read the article, Microsoft is saying it will not have a boost mode because it will always being doing it's best. But this is basically putting down the PS4 PRO's graphics options. Saying that 60fps@1080p is not optimized or doing it's best.

It is also saying that all that hype about it having a low level built in option for every game was just talk. What about all the already known x1x 1080p only games?

Are you saying the: "real 4k" machines best is only 1080p@60fps for those games? Contridictory if you ask me.

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KingKionic 3138d ago

I console with no UI identity?

They have added several features from the community on https://xbox.uservoice.com/... with each ui change.

But currently the Xbox One update is paired with the "Fluent Design" update that is also in the latest windows 10 creators update.

https://www.windowscentral....
https://www.windowscentral....

Its much harder from this point forward for lots of big ui overhauls.

Skillz12153136d ago (Edited 3136d ago )

xbox can tweak and update its UI as much as it wants its still a cluttered mess filled with ads. PS4 UI is more stable elegant and easy to navigate. The xbox UI looks like a messy teenagers room smh people are delusional and would rather die then to admit that xbox UI just flat out sucks #brainwashed

Team_Litt3138d ago

Xbox has always tweaked and improved its UI. I quite like this Fall update mind you and this from someone who adored the previous one.

Who complains about newly added features?

SpaceRanger3137d ago

You’re okay with having the UI overhauled 4+ times? It’s annoying and they take away or replace these “enhancements” you all speak of.

The update itself is fine. It’s the fact that they completely change everything the moment people get used to it.

81BX3137d ago

Has anyone else having issues with pinning friends to home?

Zeref3137d ago

UI identity? LMAO you people come up with the weirdest excuses to bash Xbox.

XStation4pio_Pro3137d ago (Edited 3137d ago )

lol i love how you call out fanboys, being a massive fanboy yourself. your whole comment (and history) only validate that.

stability isn't a proprietary feature. its a goal that any manufacturer who deals in software and or hardware aspires to hit. stabie machines keep resource costs down. same for ms, sony, apple, samsung, google and everyone in between. do you honestly think ms never has stability updates in its delta updates?? its literally listed in almost every update. how do you think they keep getting performance increases in the software?? the more stable they get services running, the more they can throw at it and optimize.

lmfao. people are digging for anything these days.

Black0ut3137d ago

@Space

"And for stability, I’m guessing Xbox fanboys should hold their tongue now that MS is following Sony’s focus on stability."

So you're trying to tell us that one of the most successful software company's in the world is all of a sudden "following Sony's focus on stability"? Uhh...Dude I hope you actually realise what you're attempting to spin here because it's complete and utter nonsense.

leeeroythe3rd3137d ago

Keep on trolling... only 3 to 5 years until ps5!!

gangsta_red3137d ago (Edited 3137d ago )

"I doubt that. They’ve changed the UI multiple times leading to a console with no UI identity. "

Floored...just when I thought I couldn't witness absolute desperation at it's worse, now we have a complaint about the UI having no identity.

"I’m guessing Xbox fanboys should hold their tongue now that MS is following Sony’s focus on stability."

What are you even talking about?

"...yet with each change they take away and change enhancements. So I’m not sure what point you’re making."

Do you even understand what you're even saying? Exactly what did they change and what is worse because of this change, please tell us in your own experience Spaceranger.

Chris123137d ago

He can't help himself. One day he might read some of these comments and laugh at the desperation. 'Ui Identity' really is a cracker.

Gazondaily3137d ago

"Floored...just when I thought I couldn't witness absolute desperation at it's worse, now we have a complaint about the UI having no identity"

Lmfao exactly! Yeah cause the ps4 UI is brimming with it!

🤔🤔🤣

Gazondaily3137d ago

Have you seen the new UI on Xbox? Tell me the crossbar has personality lol.

They have made some excellent tweaks and the speed of it is brilliant. Well, you probably wouldn't know...

snoopdioogo3137d ago

Lol
Ms has done changes on xbox ui since the 360 .
That's something i really like n keeps it fresh in my opinion.
I wish i had the same on my pro .
But that's just me

chuckyj13137d ago

LOL... You doubt that... Okay... What insider information do you have? You don't like Xbox... Cool so stick with Sony They have a nice system and great games too...

andibandit3137d ago (Edited 3137d ago )

@SpaceRanger

Rehab NOW!

spreadlove3137d ago (Edited 3137d ago )

I guess if you stuck with MS Windows 3.11 then you get that visual identity. Also, MS is able to focus on stability and boost mode at the same time. All older games will automatically be boosted!

This is not a half *ss attempt like the PS4 Pro, I'm afraid. It is a 100% full attempt and nailed it!

I get the feel Sony was afraid to push the PS4 Pro to the point where Cerny was whispering at the PS4 Pro reveal.

SierraGuy3137d ago

The UI sucks and still does after all these years. Pay someone to do it properly MS and f#ck windows10.

x_xavier_x3136d ago (Edited 3136d ago )

"f#ck windows10. "

This sounds like something a 13 year old would say because he thinks it makes him sound "cool".

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Bigpappy3138d ago

Well it's always in boost mode, for every game.

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LandoCalrissiano3136d ago

The one x woke up in beast mode? Hahaha!

Sonic_Vs_Mario3138d ago

Why would Xbox One X need boost mode? All existing and new games will automatically have improved frame rate and performance. It's would be quite cringy needing to rely on boost mode lol

Ju3137d ago

Well have the discussion again when the first games crash

NatFanBoyRestricted3137d ago

When your too dumb to realize there's already Xs it there running games and being reviewed. Certain retailers already doing X events where people actually get to use it, and still thinks there hasn't been an X out there that had been powered on and played games.

OpenGL3137d ago

While I agree with this in theory, I don't think there has been a single game reported to have issues with Boost mode on PS4, so I don't see why it would be an issue on Xbox One X.

Ju3136d ago

Well, I wonder if there is a black list at work with Boost mode on the Pro. I mean, at least there is a switch to fall back if necessary. It's just taking this for granted in a closed system where devs can poke around HW is no guarantee why this would actually never happen, even if most games (or all?) work. But the matter of fact is, there is no (big) difference between boost mode and X's mode to run XO games.

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Teflon023137d ago

because the way games are developed on console. Having extra power that wasn't originally available can break certain games. It's the exact reason Emulation doesn't work great with every game. It's the reason the option exists on ps4 pro. A few, very few games don't work properly in boost mode so instead of having to wait for a patch to fix it or having a unplayable game, you're safe to play it.It's a precaution really.

shiva13137d ago

But you are talking about a company who did something which was not possible by any.... Backwards compatibility. So they already know what works and what doesn't on their new system. They can test all released Xbox one games on One X probably in less than a month.

Teflon023137d ago

Shiva... wtf are you talking about?
You do realize that not every game is backwards compatible for a reason. Microsoft or who ever needs to run through the game and fix any faults caused by emulating the game...
Atleast know what you're talking about.
Even more, PS3 has backwards compatibility, Vita does, PS2 does, Wii does, Wii U does, DS does, 3DS does. It's not some magical thing only microsoft has done

Ju3136d ago (Edited 3136d ago )

Every single game backwards compatible for the XO is patched. You understand that, do you? Guess what this list is for: https://www.xbox.com/en-US/...

Teflon023136d ago

Ju?
Exactly... You just proved my point. You really think every single game is going to be patched immediately? You do realize if MS forces that on older games, they may just lose games from the store.
I already know 100% about Bc and Xbox. That's still not 100% of games. Even when ps3 had emulation in the second ps3 versions some games didn't work properly. I remember R$C UYA had way more slow downs.
It's fixable if you wanna fix it. But it requires attention. Not every single game will get that attention, and unlike BC you don't have a filtered list of games to say these work for now, more will be checked and added later

Ju3133d ago

This was a response to @shiva1

Teflon023133d ago

@Ju ohh sorry sorry lol

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81BX3137d ago

Trolls and instability...

Unspoken3137d ago

Watch no restrictions placed on this troll.

NoPeace_Walker3138d ago

The most powerful console ever is just a couple weeks away. Can't wait!

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Take-Two CEO Once Again Side Steps Grand Theft Auto 6 Price Point

Strauss Zelnick says price of GTA 6 is being carefully considered and that Rockstar is focused on "making the most spectacular piece of entertainment on Earth."

Kuma24d ago

If GTA 6 abandons everything that made GTA 5 great, it will crash and burn right out of the gate. GTA 5 was funny and not at all PC. My worry is that they will cave to the PC crowd and ruin the vibes.

Eonjay23d ago

They got freaking BBLs twerking on the top of trucks for the gram, the freaking Flordia joker, and dude running down the stree in their undies and you are worried about it being 'too PC'? The internet has runied gamers. It doesn't matter how non-PC they make the game, you will all listen to the grifters telling you not to believe your lying eyes lol.

gigoran823d ago

"Rockstar Games’ co-founder and former VP of Development Jamie King said he envisions GTA 6 as a game that’s “maybe not quite as edgy or quite as funny” as its satirical predecessors."

oh yeah, totally internet grifters spreading rumors...

blacktiger23d ago

That's part of the plan, they destroyed you but they need to destroy the shareholders? Only 1 shre holder is the true elite that don't care

1nsomniac24d ago (Edited 24d ago )

Meh.., if it’s above £55 I ain’t buying it.

Rockstar are genuinely not half the company they used to be. I was a die hard GTA fan I’ve purchased every game and expansion and spin off day 1.

My opinion of GTA6 is that I can take it or leave it. Not bothered. They burnt too many bridges.

DaReapa23d ago (Edited 23d ago )

So they're actually leaving the door open for an L.A. Noire sequel? Nice!

VaNdAl23d ago (Edited 23d ago )

He should just come out and say it already it's getting stupid it's going to be a 100 bucks $200 for the special edition🤡🤡; 29315;🤣♿

Storm2323d ago

I won't be getting this game until I can get it for $70. SHoot, I could wait for it to be even lower. I don't need the game that badly as my backlog is still huge and I am enjoying playing other things.

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Talking Aliens: The Video Games With Author Mike Diver

Skewed and Reviewed have posted an interview with Author Mike Diver about his pending book on Aliens video games.

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Xbox boss: Memory crisis could impact next-gen hardware pricing

Xbox boss Asha Sharma has discussed how component shortages will impact the company's plans for Project Helix.

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Eonjay25d ago

When does this end? Its killing everyone. Consoles and PC. And for what? AI? The benefits of AI are completely outweighed by the negatives. And the government should have never allowed one company to buy up all the RAM.

Lexreborn225d ago

This kind of proves this is an after thought product, most products like this are in r&d 5 years before they start mass producing. So they typically have the cost of components and things worked out long before assembly starts.

This is an assumption still, but I wouldn’t be surprised if project helix is similar to Scalebound,perfect dark and sod3. They had an idea but no actual execution other than concept stage. Being impacted by the ram shortage likely would also put this device 3-4 years out.

I’m not even sure MS has that endurance with Xbox yet

Fishy Fingers25d ago (Edited 25d ago )

I mean.... what?

We're at a point that Samsung wont even provide their own phone department ram because they can sell it at higher prices to 3rd parties (AI). Its more profitable to sell the ram than make their own devices with it.

You think because R&D starts 5 years ago the 3rd party component manufacturers will honour that price? They'll sell it to whomever is paying the most today, not some gentlemens agreement they made years ago. AI farms will buy more volume at higher prices than any console manufacturer will. It'll be the same for Playstation.

Lexreborn225d ago

Contractual agreements are not the same as “gentlemen” agreements. If you think that they work with their distributors a month before production then their entire business model is trash. They work with companies like nvidia constantly for building the graphics cards they need. They work with companies that build motherboards years in advance. This is what proper business planning does.

They are not buying components on a whim like a consumer. So again, considering the ram isn’t a singular module and is integrated into the motherboard I highly doubt they wouldn’t have a final schematic that they are supposed to be building around.

If they are delaying production another 3 years then it’s obvious again this is an after though project and is just trying to be responsive to their bad execution they had the last 14 years.

It also isn’t far fetched to use their failure to produce first party titles the last 7 years including the highly anticipated games I mentioned all being cancelled. That they would continue to you know… lie

Sitdown25d ago

You don't really know how this works huh?

Profchaos25d ago (Edited 25d ago )

Helix is going to be stupidly expensive

Instead of leaning into smarter upscaling techniques they're brute forcing hardware that will cost them dearly and it remains to be seen if it's genuinely going to provide a meaningful differential

I know in the oc.doace people like to brag about not using frame gen or dlss to get to high on a game but for the majority of players they happily use those technologies without a second thought

That's going to be ps6 vs Helix

Eonjay25d ago

Yeah with FSR 5 they should be able to offer a much cheaper version of Helix.

Eonjay25d ago

While this does seem to be the case, I am encouraged by the statement from Microsoft about wanting to provide affordable options. If this means a Series S style Helix, at least there will be something affordable being offered.

XBManiac24d ago

Series S is what has killed Xbox Series so... Will they dare?

blacktiger25d ago

It's called systematic inflationary. Yes we get it Microsoft, keep raising in the name ofall kinds of stuffs

pwnmaster300025d ago

Honestly if there was thing I learned from this generation is that new consoles arnt day one anymore.
I can wait 1-3 years.

DarXyde25d ago

Another important lesson from this generation: while Nintendo showed us that prices don't necessarily need to ever drop, we've now learned that waiting 1-3 years does carry some risk that prices increase. This generation is just bizarre in all the wrong ways.

LucasRuinedChildhood25d ago (Edited 25d ago )

The factors are largely external. Covid and Russia-Ukraine war causing inflation led to the first price increase in 2022.

Then we get Trump's tariffs increasing hardware prices, AI boom causing a RAM crisis, war on Iran causing a worldwide fuel crisis which impacts the cost of everything.

Gaming doesn't exist in a vacuum. The last few years have been a shitshow and lot of it was definitely avoidable.

DarXyde25d ago

LucasRuinedChildhood,

For sure. No disagreement on the external factors doing a lot of this. Where I have to gently push back however is on two fronts:

1. The pandemic definitely caused some issues: asynchronous development was a big issue and really complicated timelines and affected game quality. At the same time, when it comes to price hikes, it's really difficult to know what was genuine necessity and what was taking consumers for a ride. The pandemic brought about "stag-flation" which was increasing prices and stagnant wages, which was a problem caused by supply chain constraints. There was also "Greed-flation", where companies that were slightly affected or had no issues took advantage of the situation and squeezed everyone citing supply chain issues when there were none.

2. It's definitely true that the tariffs, AI boom, and RAM crisis were all things enabled by tech broligarchs throwing money at this caricature of a world leader, one of them being Satya Nadella. I don't think Sony and Nintendo have contributed much to this problem if at all, but Microsoft's Nadella I feel was instrumental in causing every one of those issues. Microsoft as a company contributed to both candidates (though they gave Harris 4x as much if I recall), but Nadella was all in on letting AI run wild. He paid for unregulated AI, and got a war that's not a war (even though Trump called it that at least five times on television) that screwed up helium access. So for me, I feel that one of the players in the gaming industry is a key architect of these issues, and for that reason I struggle a bit to think of it as "external".

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