There's plenty to do in destiny. You play for the enjoyment. Obviously once you're at 305 you've already putt several dozens of hours into that one character, what are you complaining for? Continue to do random **** or get off the game. I'm at or near 305 on all characters yet I farm for planet/moon vendor gear and play pvp. I do trials on Friday and try to raid on weekend. I don't get the complaining about the lack of anything to do when your options are limitless.

Much more then that. They destroyed the Iron Banner. The grind they want us to do is out of this world. Today i got 85 tokens and 15 more from the quests and i reached lvl 10. This means i got another packet. I got zero armor! Zero!!!! i got 3 weapons that were the same SMG crap a sniper and robe!!!!

The Iron banner got good mechanics, but even those they wrecked.

I agree also about the strikes, they have detroyed them. Everybody does quick runs and they are crap compared to the first one. Everybody does public events. Its the only good upgrade.

I feel that Activision stakeholders are mostly responsible for this change. It's waaaaaay too casual. It lost the immersive atmosphere that Destiny 1 had. They hand out Exotic engrams like it's candy. It took me several months to get my first exotic and it was special. Now I expect them every few Heroic Events and then it's just my 7th Coldheart. Eh.

So like every other game once you dump a large amount of hours to it, there's nothing new to do?

I cant really say much im only going by what i experience. D1 was my loot and shoot game and i got addicted now im starting to try other looter games. I understand what people are saying about the grind and end game is not the same as d1 i guess bungie was trying to please everybody and didnt kno how to do it and keep the hardcore component in the game. But people have that have time to play are feeling it the most, i dont have the time and wish i did, but i am happy the way they did it cause it does seem easier to get the exotics and i didnt have to spend that much time so im caught up with my friends and i meet the requirements of the be this light lvl have mida or merciless kno the raid forwad and upside down people. If they go back to D1 style thats great im still gonna play, but i guess they are learning that its not always good to try to please everybody

The original never really had an end game either...the entire premise if based on RNG....the first game it just seemed like you spent more time with it because it had different rolls for guns...D1 had tons of artificial grind attached to it...D2 simply has less of that. Both games have lacked a true end game and D3 will probably lack one as well as the entire game revolves around the next DLC.

It feels like I'm stuck in the same loop as destiny 1. Hop on the weekly reset, do the nitefall then raid. Then thats about it. I dont get why there are so few strikes and no higher level strikes like Prestige Nightfall.

The gear and weapons are still the endgame. And they are still adding in more. Faction Weapons, IB Weapons, etc. I am nowhere close to having everything and I have played a ton. Still missing raid gear on my Warlock and Titan, still missing exotics for my Warlock and Titan. Still missing a lot of the faction weapons and gear. Still missing multiple Trials pieces.

There is an endgame?

I find there is nothing worth while doing, past 165 the only chance of getting good loot, is nightfall, raid and weekly grind time of which aside from cayde's loot boxes i dont find the rest that interesting depending on what they are of course. and with no match making i really wont be putting in the effort to do the nightfalls and raids tbh, its just a freaking hassle which it doesnt have to be. Last time i read an article only around 30% of players had done the nightfall and maybe 10% had done the raid, i wonder why.

Destiny 2 is one of the reasons why im basically done with most online gaming, and people keep supporting trash like this.

At least the level cap isn't 343

See now this is why I stopped playing D1 so early on and skipped D2. I'm just gonna wait for Anthem and hope for the best lol. That game looks solid but only time will tell xd

Well, it is clear that there is another foe waiting. The story will continue.

Better late than never.

It’s ok we have Horizon: Hunter’s Gathering. 😆

Sony needs to get back to making great single player games!

I'm not too sure a lot of the people who visit N4G know what Sony have said recently. They "Sony" want an increase of monetization of their user base and deepen sales on other platforms. So to mitigate the rise in hardware components cost. More expensive services, games, micro transactions and lastly more live service stuff. Who would have thought 🤷‍♂️

An expensive lesson but I think a lesson worth learning

You would have thought that the Concord disaster would have been enough.

Looks like they finally got the message.

Good for sure, but did TLOU Factions really need to die for this? It never needed to be live service, 39.99 and we'd play it forever as is.

I'll never understand why they bought Bungie in the first place (especially for that price), Sony got grifted hard.

Duh! I mean really though, how is it that us bum ass gamers figured that out before these high-paid executives?

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i mean i'm surprised they didn't see this sooner from the reaction to almost every live service game thats come out.

Do single player campaign games including some games that have sp & multiplayer modes with co-op basically like the components in Halo & Destiny but try something new that's not a typical shooter. An action or action adventure game would be nice.

Bungie have problems internally for sure but Sony shouldn’t get a free pass here. Sony have bungled their management of them big time with their live service mandate. Did they forget Bungie’s pedigree in making single player games?

No no guys come on
15th times the charm

Bungie was such a bad investment for Sony, especially considering what they paid for it. MS pushed them to do that after getting Bethesda and Activision. One MS exec said they wanted to spend Sony out of business in 2019.

The less live services they do the better. Their single player games will ALWAYS be their bread and butter.

It was a very bad move. They way overpaid for something many of us don’t care about, live service mp. If they paid maybe 1/10th or so it wouldn’t be so bad but billions for a super risky studio. Their gunplay in games is great but that only lasts so long. They should have them make some single player games and maybe they can recoup some of that $$