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Xbox exec: Announcing Crackdown 3 too early was ‘a mistake’

The publisher will reconsider when it reveals games in the future.

Angainor73207d ago

The whole approach for Crackdown 3 is a mistake in my opinion. You should have taken advantage of 1X's power in order to reveal a game with combination of Cel Shaded and Photorealistic graphics in a special way and have masterpiece. Unfortunately you choose to go generic as f#*k and have another mediocre title.

Brave_Losers_Unite3207d ago

The whole Xbox fanbase needs to take an L. The amount of power of the cloud defending was pretty sad

BiggerBoss3206d ago

Yeah I guess Microsoft and its fans are never going to address how "Cloud Power" was an enormous lie.

SirBradders3206d ago

I know it's ironic how MS release the X and yet had claimed of the cloud power increase the one by 10x.

The most funny thing is people believed it.

Skull5213206d ago

I can understand wanting to show off the incredible physics, it's a game changer.

Jeff2573206d ago

@Skull521

What "incredible physics"? Oh you mean the tech demo they showed off years ago that hasn't been shown in any actual gameplay. All anyone has seen of it is some Single player that hasn't really done much to impress anyone who wasn't already a fan of the series. They have shown off no actual multiplayer or the Arena Mode that is now what will have the supposed destructibility.

Face it, the whole "Power Of The Cloud" was PR spin to distract from the fact the base XBOX One just wasn't as powerful as the base PS4. Now that the X is coming out they no longer need the PR spin or to really push everything they said this game would do. They are more interested now in pushing the new spin that the X is where people should be playing 3rd party games. Of course they have to do that because what 1st party titles they do have just aren't that impressive. And beyond early next year there is a big question mark hanging over what will they bring that make either of their systems worth buying. This isn't the 360 generation where they can rely on 3rd party to carry them. They don't have the market share for that and the X isn't going to change that either. More exclusive titles that can only be played on the XBOX One consoles could.

Skull5213206d ago

Really not too big of a deal when you compare it with The Last Guardian lol! Talk about too early!

DankSinatra3206d ago

@Skull521

Except the last guardian came out... And it was exactly as it was revealed to be unlike crackdown 3 that was nothing more than a tech demo...

Jeff2573206d ago (Edited 3206d ago )

@StonieWylder

Exactly. It certainly was announced way too early. But you have to give Sony props for never giving up on it and delivering it. They didn't over hype the game or use unnecessary PR spin to make it out to be something it wasn't.

Another game Sony has said is coming that I think was announced a little early is Dreams from Media Molecule. Of course we still hear about it from time to time and I am sure it will be a very interesting game when it finally does come out. But it also isn't being blasted out there with outrageous claims.

The issue with Crackdown 3 is the PR spin coupled with the delay shows a big gap in the games MS is bringing to their console. Even when The Last Guardian kept getting pushed around Sony still had a constant stream of games that people were excited for and loved playing.

UCForce3206d ago

@Skull521 The Last Guardian delivered what it promised. A fullly alive animal creature and good story. And It didn't cancelled. And the game isn't smoke and mirrors.

Dragonscale3206d ago

@skullz, the only thing ms showed off with this game was their usual bullcrap.

freshslicepizza3206d ago

@UCForce
"The Last Guardian delivered what it promised. A fullly alive animal creature and good story. And It didn't cancelled. And the game isn't smoke and mirrors."

Actually it did get cancelled because I am still waiting for it to be released as promised on my PS3. Crackdown 3 isn't out yet so until it is we can't make an exception for The Last Guardian and then claim fraud for Crackdown 3. But again you already admitted to being a Sony loyalist so there is yoiur answer to why you would act this way about a Playstation title to a Xbox one.

GrubsterBeater3206d ago

We should just ignore how the cloud power PR was all bulls#@!, and just move on. We won't talk about it, and that way XBox fans won't have another thing to be ashamed about. We all knew this year's ago, so let's just let it go.

Atticus_finch3206d ago

moldy was looking forward to play the last guardian but doesn't know the game wouldn't have been possible on ps3.
But I still don't see how TLG excuses The Power Of The Cloud or Xbo x4.

subtenko3206d ago

Yo I just posted about that lol, now you dont hear a peep about it. Plus they were all acting like it was something new/ Kept trying to tell them and now that its obvious we just hear crickets or excuses.

freshslicepizza3206d ago (Edited 3206d ago )

@Atticus_finch
"moldy was looking forward to play the last guardian but doesn't know the game wouldn't have been possible on ps3."

I had a PS3 before they cancelled it, what a terrible counter argument.

"But I still don't see how TLG excuses The Power Of The Cloud or Xbo x4."

That's because The Last Guardian came out on the PS4, not the PS3, we already know that. Crackdown 3 isn't out yet so how can you determine if the cloud is real or not if we don't have a final copy?

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XiNatsuDragnel3207d ago

Crackdown 3 was a mistake in my opinion.

FallenAngel19843206d ago

Let's be honest, Crackdown 3 was being sold more on the tech behind it such as cloud computing and Xbox One X upgrades rather than on its own merits.

lelo2play3207d ago

Good idea. Every company should reveal their games when it has less then a year to get released.

Redemption-643206d ago

To be honest with you, that strategy might not work for many new IPs or even lesser know games. This could intern doom new IPs, especially from new Studios. There are few games, that can be reveled, released within months and still build enough hype to be a commercial success. Gamers will also not be able say what games they are excited for for the next year. two years to be is the sweet spot. We will have games to play during the current and a lot to talk about for the next year.

rainslacker3205d ago

Why? 2-3 year out game announcements have been the norm for a couple decades now. Just because MS and it's fan boys made it into some sort of console war nonsense that announcing too early was bad, doesn't mean that things need to change now. The slow build of a games marketing allows for more information to be known about it, as opposed to just relying on short term hype which may or may not happen.

The games which take 4+ years to finally come out are actually few and far between, and usually comes from troubled development, or companies jumping the gun too early.

chrisx3207d ago

Back then it was the power of the clouds,guess that was just smoke

LastCenturyRob3206d ago

Oh, the troll is trolling.....yawn.

MegamanXXX3206d ago

He saying facts. Microsoft lies a lot

DankSinatra3206d ago

Can't be a troll if you're telling the truth lol.

OffRoadKing3206d ago

Your word of the day is irony, look it up and while your at it look up hypocrite too. You're one of the biggest trolls on this site.

MegamanXXX3206d ago

Your comments are hilarious

PhoenixUp3207d ago

Putting that much attention on Crackdown 3 period was a big mistake. Now you got the media who were never even interested in the first two installments waiting to see if the third flops or not. Even if it releases to the same critical acclaim that the first to got, that may not be enough.

This franchise has never been considered high tier and in the upper echelon of Microsoft flagship franchises, yet all that hype has caused expectations from people that most certainly won't be attained.

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Take-Two CEO Once Again Side Steps Grand Theft Auto 6 Price Point

Strauss Zelnick says price of GTA 6 is being carefully considered and that Rockstar is focused on "making the most spectacular piece of entertainment on Earth."

Kuma38d ago

If GTA 6 abandons everything that made GTA 5 great, it will crash and burn right out of the gate. GTA 5 was funny and not at all PC. My worry is that they will cave to the PC crowd and ruin the vibes.

Eonjay38d ago

They got freaking BBLs twerking on the top of trucks for the gram, the freaking Flordia joker, and dude running down the stree in their undies and you are worried about it being 'too PC'? The internet has runied gamers. It doesn't matter how non-PC they make the game, you will all listen to the grifters telling you not to believe your lying eyes lol.

gigoran838d ago

"Rockstar Games’ co-founder and former VP of Development Jamie King said he envisions GTA 6 as a game that’s “maybe not quite as edgy or quite as funny” as its satirical predecessors."

oh yeah, totally internet grifters spreading rumors...

blacktiger38d ago

That's part of the plan, they destroyed you but they need to destroy the shareholders? Only 1 shre holder is the true elite that don't care

1nsomniac38d ago (Edited 38d ago )

Meh.., if it’s above £55 I ain’t buying it.

Rockstar are genuinely not half the company they used to be. I was a die hard GTA fan I’ve purchased every game and expansion and spin off day 1.

My opinion of GTA6 is that I can take it or leave it. Not bothered. They burnt too many bridges.

DaReapa38d ago (Edited 38d ago )

So they're actually leaving the door open for an L.A. Noire sequel? Nice!

VaNdAl38d ago (Edited 38d ago )

He should just come out and say it already it's getting stupid it's going to be a 100 bucks $200 for the special edition🤡🤡; 29315;🤣♿

Storm2338d ago

I won't be getting this game until I can get it for $70. SHoot, I could wait for it to be even lower. I don't need the game that badly as my backlog is still huge and I am enjoying playing other things.

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Talking Aliens: The Video Games With Author Mike Diver

Skewed and Reviewed have posted an interview with Author Mike Diver about his pending book on Aliens video games.

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Xbox boss: Memory crisis could impact next-gen hardware pricing

Xbox boss Asha Sharma has discussed how component shortages will impact the company's plans for Project Helix.

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Eonjay39d ago

When does this end? Its killing everyone. Consoles and PC. And for what? AI? The benefits of AI are completely outweighed by the negatives. And the government should have never allowed one company to buy up all the RAM.

Lexreborn240d ago

This kind of proves this is an after thought product, most products like this are in r&d 5 years before they start mass producing. So they typically have the cost of components and things worked out long before assembly starts.

This is an assumption still, but I wouldn’t be surprised if project helix is similar to Scalebound,perfect dark and sod3. They had an idea but no actual execution other than concept stage. Being impacted by the ram shortage likely would also put this device 3-4 years out.

I’m not even sure MS has that endurance with Xbox yet

Fishy Fingers40d ago (Edited 40d ago )

I mean.... what?

We're at a point that Samsung wont even provide their own phone department ram because they can sell it at higher prices to 3rd parties (AI). Its more profitable to sell the ram than make their own devices with it.

You think because R&D starts 5 years ago the 3rd party component manufacturers will honour that price? They'll sell it to whomever is paying the most today, not some gentlemens agreement they made years ago. AI farms will buy more volume at higher prices than any console manufacturer will. It'll be the same for Playstation.

Lexreborn239d ago

Contractual agreements are not the same as “gentlemen” agreements. If you think that they work with their distributors a month before production then their entire business model is trash. They work with companies like nvidia constantly for building the graphics cards they need. They work with companies that build motherboards years in advance. This is what proper business planning does.

They are not buying components on a whim like a consumer. So again, considering the ram isn’t a singular module and is integrated into the motherboard I highly doubt they wouldn’t have a final schematic that they are supposed to be building around.

If they are delaying production another 3 years then it’s obvious again this is an after though project and is just trying to be responsive to their bad execution they had the last 14 years.

It also isn’t far fetched to use their failure to produce first party titles the last 7 years including the highly anticipated games I mentioned all being cancelled. That they would continue to you know… lie

Sitdown39d ago

You don't really know how this works huh?

Profchaos40d ago (Edited 40d ago )

Helix is going to be stupidly expensive

Instead of leaning into smarter upscaling techniques they're brute forcing hardware that will cost them dearly and it remains to be seen if it's genuinely going to provide a meaningful differential

I know in the oc.doace people like to brag about not using frame gen or dlss to get to high on a game but for the majority of players they happily use those technologies without a second thought

That's going to be ps6 vs Helix

Eonjay39d ago

Yeah with FSR 5 they should be able to offer a much cheaper version of Helix.

Eonjay39d ago

While this does seem to be the case, I am encouraged by the statement from Microsoft about wanting to provide affordable options. If this means a Series S style Helix, at least there will be something affordable being offered.

XBManiac39d ago

Series S is what has killed Xbox Series so... Will they dare?

blacktiger40d ago

It's called systematic inflationary. Yes we get it Microsoft, keep raising in the name ofall kinds of stuffs

pwnmaster300040d ago

Honestly if there was thing I learned from this generation is that new consoles arnt day one anymore.
I can wait 1-3 years.

DarXyde40d ago

Another important lesson from this generation: while Nintendo showed us that prices don't necessarily need to ever drop, we've now learned that waiting 1-3 years does carry some risk that prices increase. This generation is just bizarre in all the wrong ways.

LucasRuinedChildhood39d ago (Edited 39d ago )

The factors are largely external. Covid and Russia-Ukraine war causing inflation led to the first price increase in 2022.

Then we get Trump's tariffs increasing hardware prices, AI boom causing a RAM crisis, war on Iran causing a worldwide fuel crisis which impacts the cost of everything.

Gaming doesn't exist in a vacuum. The last few years have been a shitshow and lot of it was definitely avoidable.

DarXyde39d ago

LucasRuinedChildhood,

For sure. No disagreement on the external factors doing a lot of this. Where I have to gently push back however is on two fronts:

1. The pandemic definitely caused some issues: asynchronous development was a big issue and really complicated timelines and affected game quality. At the same time, when it comes to price hikes, it's really difficult to know what was genuine necessity and what was taking consumers for a ride. The pandemic brought about "stag-flation" which was increasing prices and stagnant wages, which was a problem caused by supply chain constraints. There was also "Greed-flation", where companies that were slightly affected or had no issues took advantage of the situation and squeezed everyone citing supply chain issues when there were none.

2. It's definitely true that the tariffs, AI boom, and RAM crisis were all things enabled by tech broligarchs throwing money at this caricature of a world leader, one of them being Satya Nadella. I don't think Sony and Nintendo have contributed much to this problem if at all, but Microsoft's Nadella I feel was instrumental in causing every one of those issues. Microsoft as a company contributed to both candidates (though they gave Harris 4x as much if I recall), but Nadella was all in on letting AI run wild. He paid for unregulated AI, and got a war that's not a war (even though Trump called it that at least five times on television) that screwed up helium access. So for me, I feel that one of the players in the gaming industry is a key architect of these issues, and for that reason I struggle a bit to think of it as "external".

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