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Does the Xbox One X make a difference? Microsoft presented its new product at gamescom 2017

Gameplane: "At this year's gamescom MIcrosoft presented the most powerful console yet. But do you actually see a difference when playing? We played on the Xbox One X and tell you what it was like."

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Obscure_Observer3205d ago

Pre-orders are high! Developers and Digital Foundry are singing praises for the X. So far so good. :)

naruga3204d ago (Edited 3204d ago )

XoneX =a rattling before death ....the Xone failed and failed terribly even to show some fight against its competitors .....

.While on others consoles we speak about how many exclusives left ot play this year (alone) ... Xone gathers dust and we r discussing if a doomed thing (XoneX), something between New gen console and Upgrade will succeed without having LITERALLY nothing to play on it .....no matter the first Hype -sales numbers the fail is imminent (smthing like Wii but in a smaller scale)

alb18993204d ago

Seen the X as a top seller in Amazon's is a good signal.
With 110 titles getting better for the X and two more months away from the release looks as a good future to me.
A couldn't pre-order it because it was too fast. Hope MS give us more chances before November 7.

freshslicepizza3204d ago

"What are the numbers?"

Where were the numbers for PSVR for the first 6 months? What are the numbers for the camera and the sharpshooter Sony keeps telling us how they can't keep them in stock? What were the numbers for Playstation Plus on the PS3 before Sony used online as the real incentive to become a member? What are the total sales of Vita each month?

We all know why Microsoft stopped revealing numbers, it is the same reason last generation Sony was the first to tell the NPD group to stop publicly announcing numbers each month and decided to group its platforms together (PSP, PS2 and PS3).

The fact is Digital Foundry is very positive about the new XB1X, just because you aligned yourself with the PS4 shouldn't mean you are now obliged to downplay the XB1X.

WePlayDirty3204d ago

So no numbers? Yet I'm supposed to believe these companies are being honest with me given their track record?

Razzer3204d ago

@moldy

Why are you bringing up PSVR? Seriously, do you not know how hypocritical you are?

Aenea3204d ago

@moldy

Wow dude! Eventually Sony does give numbers tho, MS has stopped completely so am not expecting any from them...

WePlayDirty3204d ago

Also, with the Pro, PS said a while back that 1 in 5 Ps4's sold is a Pro. That gave us some idea of how the console was doing. With MS it's just marketing statements.

freshslicepizza3204d ago

@Razzer
"Why are you bringing up PSVR? Seriously, do you not know how hypocritical you are?"

How is it hypocritical showing how most companies will always try to spin things? The fact is the XB1X is being delivered as promised. It will be the most powerful console and it looks like so far it's getting lots of attention. Seems to me you guys are being salty about it all and don't want the system to get any positive attention. Which again brings me back to this culture Sony has created.

What's truly hypocritical is how you guys keep harping on me about my comments towards Sony yet here you are.

gamer78043204d ago

The size of the console? smaller than the x1s, unless you meant pixels 4k, or maybe the teraflops? Need to be specific.

JackBNimble3204d ago (Edited 3204d ago )

Moldy
Just because you've aligned yourself with Xbox and everything MS shouldn't mean you're obliged to down play everything ps4.

Does that clarify why people call you a hypocrite?
No ?
Well then maybe you just need to grow up.

freshslicepizza3204d ago (Edited 3204d ago )

@JackBNimble
"Just because you've aligned yourself with Xbox and everything MS shouldn't mean you're obliged to down play everything ps4."

Where did I suggest or say that Microsoft hiding numbers is OK but Sony hiding them isn't? I said they both do, that's not being hypocritical, it's putting things into context.

"Does that clarify why people call you a hypocrite?"

Then I guess people don't know what the word means because if they want to attack Microsoft then they should be prepared to know it is going to happen with Sony as well. I will play by the same rules they use.

"Well then maybe you just need to grow up."

Maybe those who focus on me and ignore those who do the exact same towards its main competitor are the ones who need to grow up.

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OffRoadKing3204d ago

How high exactly, give us a number?

DaNineTwo3204d ago

Well it sold out in a day so...

ILostMyMind3204d ago (Edited 3204d ago )

@DaNineTwo
Were all 100 units sold? Very impressive..

LexHazard793204d ago

I cant give you a number..but its enough that in a day or two it outsold PS4 Pro for 2017. It most likely already surpassed PSVR too.

Lets not make it like it no big deal. Xbox One in 2013 never saw this much hype around pre order. Except that no one was buying it. Now MS looks like it turning things around..

CyberSentinel3204d ago

@LexHazard

"I cant give you a number..but its enough that in a day or two it outsold PS4 Pro for 2017. It most likely already surpassed PSVR too. "

You don't Actually KNOW that for sure, because M$ won't give ANY numbers.
So that makes your claim "Fake News".

NotoriousWhiz3204d ago

Xbox one x is definitely preferable over ps4 pro. The jump from the Xbox one to the x is significantly larger than the jump from ps4 to PS4 pro. Add in the fact that the Xbox one X is more powerful than the pro, and any non-pc gamer that wants the best version of games will get it on the Xbox one x.

But most consumers aren't interested in the best version of games, they are only interested in the best games, period. This is why PS4 sales are so high, and PS4 pro sales are so low. I expect the Xbox one x to surpass the PS4 pro, but fall way short of both the PS4 and xbox one.

CapitalGamerNZ3204d ago

Why does he have to give a number and why do you even care?

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trooper_3204d ago

You do realize that preorders can be canceled...right?

I wouldn't brag just yet.

CapitalGamerNZ3204d ago

How was he bragging!?! So far so good is hardly bragging.

SynKakarrot3204d ago

bragging?....more like your hopping it fail lol...already pre-order and already have a space ready by my ps4

King_Lothric3204d ago

I still remember how the Wii U pre orders were high too and how that console ended up too.

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WePlayDirty3205d ago

I think it switches up how we think of console generations. I know for phones you have a base version, an S version, and a premium version. Will this be the future for consoles? I personally hope not.

Obscure_Observer3205d ago

Sony will stick with the traditional console generation (6 years). Microsoft will release a new console everytime they see fit. None of these companies will follow the yearly mobile launch route.

aconnellan3204d ago

Sony was the first one of the two to release an iterative console. As everyone likes to remind us, the X still isn't out, so only Sony has a console on the market that breaks the traditional 'generation' cycle.

With Sony being the only manufacturer that's released an iterative console this gen, how is it you think that they're going to stick to standard generations and Microsoft won't?

Obscure_Observer3204d ago

@aconnellan

"With Sony being the only manufacturer that's released an iterative console this gen, how is it you think that they're going to stick to standard generations and Microsoft won't?"

Richard Leadbetter from Digital Foundry interview with Mark Cerny

"I came away with the impression that PS5 will be a clean break, an actual generational leap as we know it. I do not feel the same about Project Scorpio, where all the indications are that Microsoft attempts to build its own Steam-like library around the Xbox brand, with games moving with you from one console to the next"

http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...

ILostMyMind3204d ago

Congratulations to MS for your new hardware. I really think Xbox deserved a fresh start and that brand fans should support it. Only the future will tell us which strategy will be the most successful.

gamer78043204d ago

Stop being so reasonable , this is n4g, lol!

ILostMyMind3204d ago

Sorry, it was Just for a moment. 😉

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zerocarnage3204d ago

@naruga - You seem like one very hateful hater, one of those that shouts for the downfall on anything he doesn't own perhaps?

I doubt the millions of Xbox live subscribers would agree with your comments.

If there was an award for spilling the most craps, you certainly sir would get it without a fight, no competition for you.

The Wii sold over 100million consoles did it not?

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Final Fantasy X 25th Anniversary Website Launches With New Nomura Artwork and Merchandise

Square Enix launches Final Fantasy X 25th anniversary site, revealing new Nomura art, books, music releases, and merchandise.

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-Foxtrot37d ago

Look I know VIII has its issues and all that but how on earth can the do big anniversary events with new artwork and merchandise for VII, IX and X yet VIII got sweet f*** all.

They could have given it something during its 25th anniversary yet all it got was a single Happy Anniversary post on their social media.

solideagle36d ago

they should know that we are OG fans of VIII as it sold truckload as well. not as much as VII or X. I personally didn't like IX but X and VI are my personal fav.

Shadow Hearts 2 covenant is another game I love. I hope one day someone can make remake, I would be delighted

Relientk7736d ago

Final Fantasy VIII is great and you are always the first to defend it in the comments

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Relientk7741d ago

I remember playing this back in the day on PS2. What a sick game!

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We started with a simple idea. Games should bring people together through shared experiences. That led to the first Xbox in 2001, Xbox Live in 2002, and new ways to connect, from friends lists and achievements to parties and play across devices. Today, Xbox reaches over 500 million players around the world, with some of the most important franchises in entertainment.

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Outside_ofthe_Box42d ago (Edited 42d ago )

If they go back to exclusive games it at least shows that they are finally getting it. They would be turning down immediate money for something that will potentially workout in the long term.

Only issue is they've already opened Pandora's box. A lot of their base has moved to PC or jumped to PS. So will be a long road to get back on track.

We have been saying this from day one exclusives are a must if you are going to be selling hardware look at Nintendo and Sony before Jim Ryan. That's the proven formula. You had some that were deluded and blinded by loyalty accepting that multiplat was the future and that MS was merely getting ahead of where the industry was headed, but at least they can finally see the light and agree with what everyone has been saying for a decade+

pwnmaster300042d ago

True, blame it on the rabid fanboys. MS can do no wrong and spinner this multiplatform move. While the actual fans moved on.

I feel like with the new Xbox coming they are hoping to bring back those old fans and then if it goes well. Bring back exclusives.

If the new console is performing like series x and one. Naw they staying multiplatform.

darthv7242d ago

Actual fans dont move on... they can add to their hobby while waiting for the next new release. If you believe what you typed then I guess PS fans moved on too.... you know, since its been a Sahara for 1st party games this gen.

S2Killinit41d ago

The fans didn’t tell them to go multilat. MS was forced to after the 82 billion they spent to destroy gaming. Then, while xbox fans cheered, MS realized they can’t justify the price tag by selling through xbox only, so they went multiplat and in the process began to downplay console gaming.

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CrashMania42d ago

I think it's too late, xbox sales were diving even before ABK, they got even worse since then even long before the full multiplatform push. I'd be surprised if they even went back to timed exclusivity at this point, Helix is basically a PC and is going to be expensive, they already struggle to sell cheaper xbox consoles, it will be low volume and they'll have a very small 'console' base to sell to, which has already been conditioned to just play via gamepass anyway.

S2Killinit41d ago

They will do what they always do, they will promise the world at the beginning of next GEN and then failed to deliver all generation long. But there will always be some gamers who will buy into their promises.

ocelot0741d ago

Absolutely agree, Do people genuinely believe Microsoft are now going to go. Hang on how's about we go back to 2020. Then GP was stagnating, Games sold where awful because of GP. Outsold by Playstation by a landslide.

They have sold 5m of Forza I believe on PS5. Spite it being a old game. I think Starfield is going to sell well in the end. Halo is deffinetly going to sell well as is Fable and Forza Horizon 6.

I think at best (for Xbox fans). Single player titles like Clockwork will have a timed exclusivity. Multiplayer centric games like Forza, E Day will release day and date on all platforms.

Or all games will release on all platforms day and date. But maybe Xbox and Windows Store copies will have exclusive bonuses. Or may even get timed exclusive dlc like Fallout and Elder Scrolls and COD use to do.

I think they will treat Xbox players like the premium customers or at least act the way. But will serve just the Playstation and Switch 2 customers as well.

Neonridr42d ago

I don't see them removing PC from the equation. Considering MS has a heavy enough investment in the PC market, it would be foolish to abandon them. I could see them taking away games from PlayStation or ensuring they are timed exclusives at the very least. Say what you will but if Call of Duty ends up becoming a timed exclusive to Xbox machines, that would hurt PlayStation, don't pretend like those games don't sell millions.

Outside_ofthe_Box42d ago

They would lose out on a lot of CoD sales tho. Doesn't PS make up most of the sales?

Neonridr41d ago

@Outside - possibly, but it might push people to want Xbox hardware so they can play with their buddies day one.

Who knows.

S2Killinit41d ago (Edited 41d ago )

it would but remember doing that can splinter the COD fan base and in the process damage the call of duty brand which is probably the only franchise in that $82 billion purchase that in anyway gets even close to delivering what Microsoft thought they bought. If Microsoft fudges around too much with the COD franchise, you might even see a competitor franchise show up on the scene and that would be a catastrophe after the huge debt that Microsoft put itself into with the ABK purchase.

But Its almost guaranteed that Microsoft will want to do something drastic at the beginning of the next generation as they always do. We will see.

Pyrofire9542d ago

Their lifeline of solely the Xbox consoles is dry. Good-Great games on a 1st party scale can't be made at a loss so willingly - sent to the Xbox to only sell limited copies.
They invested billions scooping up studios and need to start making returns.
Sucks that nearly every company is publicly traded and have to be so shareholder biased but that's how it is.
Their words are strong but it'll take time to see what their actions accomplish. Lowering the cost of Game Pass and taking CoD off of it was a good clear start.

darthv7242d ago

More like, allot of their base just played game pass. So now they need to encourage them to start buying again.

S2Killinit41d ago (Edited 41d ago )

A lot of their base left for greener (bluer?) pastures.

--Onilink--41d ago

What exactly is the long term goal with exclusives though?

Because for the most part, the hardware side of things has never been the most profitable, even sometimes being subsidized for a period before breaking even. And that’s before the hardware component nightmare we currently live in.

The whole point of exclusives was to get more people to buy your console in order to have a bigger install base, which meant even bigger software sales.

But if their ports to PS5 are selling (for the most part it seems) quite well, then other than negating the cut Sony takes there, unless you are REALLY increasing your software sales on your own console, it probably doesn’t make that much of a difference?

Honestly I don’t even understand Sony’s decision to scale back on it for PC unless they weren’t even recouping the port expenses. They released ports when the hardware sales never really dropped, and now that all consoles will undoubtedly take a noticeable drop in sales due to the ridiculous prices, that’s when they decide they don’t want to sell to a larger install base to more easily recoup dev costs… it’s just weird

Outside_ofthe_Box41d ago (Edited 41d ago )

I agree. I mean once they went multiplat, in theory there should be no going back especially when you have games that have sold really well on other platforms.

Microsoft are the ones that announced that they are reevaluating. So I'm just guessing on what their end goal is. Right now Xbox as a hardware is not a must buy for anyone but fans of the brand because their games can be played elsewhere. Going exclusive would solve this, but you lose out on a ton of money instantly which has always been what the company does not want to do so not really sure what their "reevaluating exclusives" means unless they are pulling a Phil Spencer and are just saying what people want to hear and will continue to do what they are currently doing.

darthv7241d ago

Their ports to PS5 are selling because Sony's output has been so dry... the fans are thirsty, and MS is the oasis.

SIdepocket41d ago

Unfortunately, the studios they buy wither under their leadership.

mcstorm41d ago

Microsoft still has a name with Xbox the issue is the casual games are not looking at the console because its not the same console their friends have. Look at that poll on how many users upgraded from xbox 365 to one and then the X. Part of Microsoft's downfall was thinking that the Wii was the market they had to be in when really it was the core market. If you get the core gamers you then get the market to. As I posted a few minuets ago on another post Microsoft putting exclusives on PS this gen could bold well if they hit next gen with all our games are staying exclusive from this new gen. They will then get gamers wanting Halo, Forza Gears but this is also where Microsoft fell over with the xbox one and X in terms of they did not have may quality 1st party games affter they fell into the Gears, Forza and Halo cycle. If they can get some old IPs back to bring back the old core gamers as well as fresh ips to bring in new gamers things could improve next gen. But as I said in my last post its all if buts and maybes at the moment. No one knows if the next home consoles will be to expensive that people move to pc as we are now seeing or look at the stem deck as a cheepier alternitive.

DarXyde41d ago

"Only issue is they've already opened Pandora's box."

That's very optimistic. It's not the only issue, far from it. There is a serious rupture between Microsoft generally and the public caused by their weird Game Pass price fluctuations, taking down physical game space in stores, and being the first to go nuts on hardware price hikes that they themselves played a big part in.

They're also charging beyond a premium for Helix which is just vile at a time when the economy is in shambles.

The company itself is really not doing itself any favors with the approach they're taking Windows. Even France is looking to ditch Windows in favor of Linux.

But the most offensive thing is this AI push. They're doubling, tripling, and quadrupling down on the very technology they're using to replace a considerable proportion of their workforce... And the slap in the face is how they bake copilot into everything when nobody likes it—they couldn't even make Bing stick, so why on earth are they trying so hard? You know it's bad when people would rather use ChatGPT than Copilot which is killing their OS. But aside from their snatching up of farmland to build data centers (and reduce the agriculture capacity of whichever country allows them to build them), they made an AI-generated gamer gurl that loves AI the head of Xbox.

Even if we grant them the full benefit of the doubt, it hardly matters what Xbox wants to do if Nadella says no, and that includes exclusive games. Microsoft's relationship with Xbox is the opposite of Sony's relationship with PlayStation—Microsoft pulls the reins of Xbox, but Sony damn near went under for the PS3.

Tanktopmaster9241d ago (Edited 41d ago )

“If they go back to exclusive games it at least shows that they are finally getting it.”

Great strategy, especially after Forza selling 5 million on PlayStation and sea of thieves selling at least another million (2 million) for example. In March 2026, Xbox consoles sales ratio vs PS was 10:1.

In addition to that, with Gamepass, which unequivocally cuts out chunks of sales (Cannibalizing revenue from 1st month sales especially).

I’m sure going exclusive again after releasing everything on Ps5 is going to work out great for business.

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maximusprime_42d ago

Despite all of that, it's clear that Microsoft's Xbox division is broken beyond repair.

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BeHunted42d ago

PlayStation is currently draining money on flop after flop. It's Sony that needs to re-evaluate their strategy

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CrashMania42d ago (Edited 42d ago )

Wonder how much money was lost on perfect dark, hellbalde 2, 300 million lost revenue
by putting cod on gamepass. The recent Jason schrier news that Xbox has cancelled dozens of projects, spent 70 billion just to see Xbox sales further collapse and gamepass see little growth.

The fact is this has been PlayStation's most profitable generation and they are making loads of money and selling plenty of consoles and games. While MS won't give you any sales figures or profit numbers for Xbox, says it all really.

S2Killinit41d ago

Sony PlayStation has deservedly dominated xbox. Facts

Tanktopmaster9241d ago (Edited 41d ago )

Ok tween.

Xbox series SX got outsold 10:1 last month. lol.

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shadowT42d ago

"Our presence on PC isn’t strong enough."

Fishy Fingers42d ago

It isnt. But I dont think they mean in 'games', rather, footprint.

They own the OS but as far as gaming is concerned, Steam dominate. I imagine the VAST majority of people who use the Xbox app/launcher are PC gamepass subs. No ones buying their 3rd party PC games through Xbox PC.

badz14941d ago

and many gamers prefer SteamOS for gaming over Windows too. If only Valve would be more uncompromising to the anti-cheat makers that locked out non-windows players, more pc gamers would have moved onto SteamOS by now and not looking back to Windows. overall, Win11 is a terrible, bloated, unoptimized OS which is not what many people want

ocelot0741d ago

Agreed and I think that's where they are going to focus on more. I think cheaper games on Windows/Xbox store (MS IP) compared to Steam and Epic and maybe even compared to PSN store as well.

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