Xbox one sales in ROW must be horrendous being under a 100K in it's strongest region.

Generation

Not only this year this decade

they shouldn't have canceled fable legends, it was much better than sea of thieves. Would have loved to them have put the time into scale bound, now i worry they have soured their relationship with platinum games and we'll never see a nier2 on xbox

hahahahaa.

Can somebody please resuscitate MS. Sad times indeed.!

@SolidStateSnake

I wouldn't call this gen shit since the PS4 is doing phenomenally well (crazy sales and games aplenty), as for the WiiU and the Xone, yeah, it's been pretty bad. Hopefully the Switch maintains it's momentum, unfortunately the XoneX won't change anything for the brand.

Dammit Microsoft, just pay a few developers to make you some exclusives, it's not like your sales are going to get any worse if you do (they certainly won't improve without a good reason though).

Only this year?
Don't think so, its going bad from the introduction till now for the Xbox One.

IMO other than Sunset overdrive (Really loved that game)
it's always been shitty since the launch of xbox1

I still don't know why they dropped Fable Legends, the beta was fun, and seemed to already be release-ready in terms of a F2P game that would have kept getting new content anyway.

@UnHoly_One Microsoft has no business making one of their main franchises, Fable, a F2P game. Imagine an alternate reality where they took it seriously, and made Fable an open world RPG that went head to head with Zelda Breath of the Wild and Horizon Zero Dawn.

@darthv72 "big planned". Well they delayed Crackdown 3, is that big enough plans for November for you lol?

It is true that there is not a lot of excitement around the X1-s right now. But that is what happens when there is a must better version of that console about to be released. Even though some will still buy the S, many are holding out until the X get released. I would have bought the S if I didn't know about the X. The X is were the excitement is right now.

@pappy

Maybe, but where is the excitement around the Xbox One in general? You know, the one that already has about 30 million users?

I don't see a lot of talk about the excitement for the games that are coming to it beyond any multi-plat discussion which is about the game itself, and not the console most of the time. I only really see the Xbox fan boys say how it'll be so great to play on those on the X1X.

I just don't see any excitement over the Xbox brand this year, and even last was kind of a disappointment. When Sony had a scarce holiday, they still had a pretty decent year, but MS holiday this year is even more scarce, and they've had a terrible year, and so far, next year isn't looking any better.

All those other games I can play on my PS4 and my PS4 actually has exclusives making the console well worth owning.

@ CPTN

You really believe that the number of games on that service outnumber the new games releasing this year?

@ Dark

And you can still play them on XO. Owners of that console aren't going through any software drought

@Bigpappy I agree with you about Xbone sales suffering since the announcement of Scorpio at E3 2016. But after E3 2017 that is not the case now. People were holding out until E3 to see if Scorpio would blow them away and the price would be great value at 399 at least, it didn't do either. Now that people know how much it is and the games that are coming to it and the next 6 months after, there is really no holding out needed anymore.

People who were on the fence would just get an Xbone now. Is playing a game like Crackdown 3 or State of Decay 2 at native 4K going to be worth double the price to them??? Not every likely.

Then you have the poor souls like darthv72 that are in denial so much they still think Microsoft are going to "flip a switch" and cut off 20 million gamers and make games just for the XboneX with its measly 2 million and less install base. He still even believes after that spec reveal earlier in the year and that sparse lineup of XboneX at E3 2017 that something mind blowing and game changing is going to happen, its so adorable. :)

Keep telling yourself that.

Cuz it's a stark contrast

Even compared to Switch, XO is still receiving more games on a monthly basis

You do realize the switch has more major exclusives than the Xbox one this year? The switch has also been out for 5 months and is in its first year of sales lol.

Bro no shit it has more exclusives. Why bring up something so obvious?

I'm talking about games in general. There is still far more software releasing on XO than on NS on a monthly basis.

@Fallen

Some people still don't understand what gamers, new and old, are looking for in a GAMING console. Let's begin with WiiU. it's irrelevant since it has been discontinued and the only thing the Xbox One has been getting worth mentioning are multiplats. Consider this; The average consumer who is interested in choosing a gaming console sees two machines. They both have the same multiplats, but the other one has a list of award winning games;

Horizon Zero Dawn
Persona 5
Crash Bandicoot
MLB The Show
Nioh
Hellblade
and there's more to come

Which GAMING console do you think GAMERS are going to choose? We all know what the problem is over at Xbox, some people just don't want to admit it.

@ IGive

Some people still don't understand that a gaming console with a lot of games is what gamers are interested in.

Wii U was irrelevant long before it was discontinued due to lack of a consistent flow of new games. It didn't get prematurely discontinued for nothing.

You can't suddenly discredit multiplats entirely to fit an agenda, especially when Wii U's demise was largely attributed to lack of multiplats. And especially after newcomer Xbox was able to outsell GameCube(made by a longtime veteran of the industry) thanks to multiplats. And definitely not when 360 had a longer lifespan than Wii thanks to multiplats.

Yes exclusives are always important, but let's not play dumb and pretend that multiplats don't matter either. We can't have a double standard where multiplats matter when it comes to Nintendo consoles' frequent lack of them but say they aren't worth anything when it comes to Xbox consoles' abundance of them. Every kind of game matters to gamers. As a person who primarily plays on PlayStation consoles, I find it ridiculous to discredit either type of software.

Consider this, the people who already have Xbox One consoles, which is the entire point I am making and that many are neglecting, still have new compelling games consistently arriving on their console. Whether those games are exclusive or not is besides the point as long as the consumers of that product are frequently satiated.

Compare this to Wii U which throughout the majority of its lifespan went through many drought periods because it didn't receive as many multiplats and exclusives would only come out every so often.

You seem to be focused on why would someone buy an PS4 over an XO, and that answer is clearly obvious and doesn't need to be further discussed because it's beating a dead horse at this point. I'm talking specifically about people who decided to get an XO anyway and the library that the particular platform offers them.

Personally I'll always pick PS4, but if I were to somehow have an XO I'd have no problem finding a slew of new games to pick up for the console.

@Fallen
There's one problem with your analysis. Switch does have AAA multiplats but it's outsell Xbox One even though the switch has had shortages.

I know that

But that still hasn't stopped people who own Xbox One from enjoying the new games from releasing on their platform

What new games?!

You guys need to take off the blinders. They aren't doing you any favors.

Because the Wii U died ages ago. Just like the X1 and 1X will by this time next year if they keep this up.

A 4 year old system having more games than a new system launched 5 months ago?! Wow that's a revelation! Way to set that bar way down there!

@fallen, you are really reaching. Yes 3rd parties matter but so do exclusives which is why xbone is in its current state. The problem is that MS have a serious lack of exclusive titles now so they have been saying 'exclusives don't matter' even though they clearly do. MS know this really, either that or they are stupid. 'exclusives don't matter' along with bc and scorpio are just deflections tbh.

@ trooper

You'd have to be blind yourself not to notice the new titles.

@ gamer

That doesn't make any sense. Wii U died because it was receiving so few support while XO continues to be supported by the majority of publishers.

@ Chev

That doesn't change my point though. XO is still receiving plenty of titles, more so than any other dedicated gaming device besides PS4.

@ Dragon

Reaching how? It's basic common sense to acknowledge people with the console have a lot to play.

You're the one reaching by saying people who opted for an XO for some reason can't enjoy the library that is given to them.

I never said exclusives don't matter, get that through your thick skull. I said the overall number of titles available matters.

Xbox outsold GameCube for a reason. Xbox 360 sold more software than Wii for a reason. Xbox One outlasted Wii U for a reason. To ignore all this is beyond reaching and living in denial.

How does something so basic fly over your head?

The software release schedule looks great compared to the Sega Saturn as well.

@ Nod

It looks great compared to any other dedicated contemporary platform this year besides PS4.

How is that point lost on you

If Xbox One lacked any notable MS funded AAA games and Sony provided those same multi plats plus more with above average review scores, which one is the better offer?

But nope, logically, your mind offseted to compare it to another failed to provide console. It's funny to see Switch accomplish much more in the same time span with similar power. Goes to show that it's a combination of many things than just having games or just having power.

I say this, if you want a much, much better Xbox experience, go the PC route. Starting with a 1050ti is fine, just make sure you have an open ended upgrade path. AM4 socket motherboards will be supported till 2020 and it's now cheap to get multi core CPUs with Ryzen. Got my 1600x 3.6Ghz 6 core for $230.

Otherwise, a PS4 would be the best alternative to gaming right now with it's plethora of already released high quality exclusives that come along the multiplats.

Your talking about what consumers would choose between so the point has gone over your head to just like it's gone over many others.

If you own an Xbox One, why wouldn't you enjoy the library available to you on that console?

I'm comparing Xbox One to Wii U because the latter failed precisely because it lacked so many consistent new games whereas the former continues to live because it's receiving new games. We can't just sweep that basic fact under the rug.

The entire reason NS came out so soon is because Nintendo's last console failed so hard.

"Goes to show that it's a combination of many things than just having games"

Dafuq? Are you seriously advocating for a gaming platform to have less games available for it for gamers to enjoy? Your priorities have become very skewed if that's what you're actually suggesting.

Yes there are other alternatives, but that is not what I'm talking about. I'm specifically talking about Xbox One owners in particular and the games available to them.

WII U got better games at this point compared to Xbox one S.

When discussing multi-plats, I don't really recall that many high profile one's releasing this year to date. There were a few, sure, but I'd say it's been dry on that front.

This holiday has some coming though, but the vast majority are just the yearly, or bi-yearly releases which we've come to expect, and tend to take up a bulk of the sales charts anyways.

I see what your doing there. Why didn't you talk about the SWITCH? I keep seeing people use the Wii u because the SWITCH has more AAA games only after 4 months and has more coming this year. But using the previous NON CANCELLED console is not right

@ deno

Don't even kid yourself. Wii U's lineup of new games was barren this time last year.

Don't be so delusional to say it was better than XO's. Wii U died for a reason and XO continues to live for a reason.

@ rain

There have already been quite a number of great multiplats released this year.

@ indy

Well Wii U is dead and we all know the reason why.

Switch still doesn't have more games than XO. Let's not kid ourselves there.

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When Sony had a scarce holiday, they still had a pretty decent year, but MS holiday this year is even more scarce, and they've had a terrible year, and so far, next year isn't looking any better.

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Holiday matters for exclusives? No wonder why Xbone is selling like complete crap because Xbone community are so short sighted.

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When Sony had a scarce holiday, they still had a pretty decent year, but MS holiday this year is even more scarce, and they've had a terrible year, and so far, next year isn't looking any better.

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Holiday matters for exclusives? No wonder why Xbone is selling like complete crap because Xbone community are so short sighted.

Last generation Sony committed hard to a spring, summer, and early fall release focus of their first party titles, getting out of the way of the big holiday 3rd party blitz entirely, and it has paid off amazingly well.

Their first party titles are selling better, especially the more niche ones, they keep interest levels in the platform up year round, and the big early year releases make great bundle fodder for the holidays.

@Pappy

I work in a game store and yeah I can tell you there is minimal excitement for a mid gen upgrade. There are no games of note to sell it. Heck Crackdown 3 my store hasn't received a single preorder for it. Lol.

It's the same reason why everyone said cod iw is a shit game yet the sales are still good.

@big

I really am not seeing it. I'm certainly not experiencing it. I see the normal XBox fan boys going on about how great things are and how they're so excited with the same fervor they always have, despite the rather lackluster offerings of software from MS, and them trying to say that multi-plats is where it's at now.

It's not that MS doesn't have good things to offer, and some things to be excited about, but sales of Xbox seem to be down, indicating to me a decline in actual consumer interest. That only backs up my assertion.

It's worth noting that I was speaking generally, as there is some excitement, but it isn't what I'd say is widespread.

I was speaking of X1 in general, and if you were speaking of X1X, then I can say I only see the usual suspects really that excited for it.

Personally, I'm really disinterested in what they have to offer their core base at the moment. It upsets me because I brought into Xbox when I thought there was stuff to look forward to. Now that there isn't, I'm wondering what MS is doing with all their resources, because the bulk of their marketing seems centered around a new console, instead of following this notion that no gamer will be left behind. While they aren't leaving gamers behind on the software front, I don't really feel they're offering up much to satiate the gamers desires. I'm not going to give MS credit for the offerings of 3rd party games like many Xbox people do, when the competition is completely demolishing them in their own exclusive offerings. It seems like a double standard to do so. While I can overlook many transgressions when my overall needs are met, I can't really do the same when another company doesn't even seem to be trying to meet the needs of it's gamers. While I don't expect MS to cater specifically to me, I do expect them to do more than offer up a yearly forza and a couple mid-tier games for the year, and I expect them to keep me informed on what to expect in the future.

@Butcher,

I don't think the holiday itself matters, or any time of year really, I was just pointing out the double standard of the fans, and just how far behind MS has gotten with their own software offerings. Now only is MS holiday sparser than Sony's a couple years ago, their whole year has been awful on that front.