Ummm there was plenty of concentrated action in D1 with 4v4, but you know keep beating that drum like it means anything. The maps are fairly concentrated, the mobility and the weapons also mean you're never far from the objective or your teammates.

Okay so it was 3v3 or 6v6. Again, I never had issues being in the fight you design around these things.

That is why Im definitely opting for the PC version. Going to check out the beta and decide.

Damage and health is flattened for the MP, what you lose when people have exotics is the small abilities or things that the weapon does. Thorn and Gjallarhorn are two examples of weapons that DO more than the non exotics but when it comes to bullet for bullet damage versus a regular hand cannon or RL they end up even. Destiny is very much about managing the heavy weapon ammo drops, if you do that someone with a Gjallarhorn is useless. If you don't know your limits health wise vs Thorn you're going to die a lot to the weapons DOT, if you know when to duck out the DOT is only a problem because it keeps your health/shields from regenerating. The PVP also operates under the assumption that it's not the ONLY thing you're doing, there is no reason a Destiny player isn't constantly improving their weapons/gear.

The 30fps I agree with, it should be 60fps. The only thing I'll give Destiny credit for is it doesn't suffer the visual degrade in MP that the other games suffer in MP. Notably Gears 4, Halo 5 and BF1.

Not sure what you lot are talking about anymore. They need to cover all range of games. Im primarily a single player gamer, but even I cannot be daft enough to ignore the fact that we need all manner of games including live service games. Everyone here seems to be a market expert.

I don’t think there’s anything wrong with a live service here or there, but to have many of your studios start focusing on it when there has been little to no experience among them was wild.

I feel like they knew that given the fact that the very furst thing they say in the trailer is to reassure they still make so games 😆

I feel like they knew that given the fact that the very first furst thing they say in the trailer is to reassure they still make so games 😆

Destiny has been a huge success.

They will not. Destiny has been popular for over 10 years, something most games can never hope to achieve. Most people, including myself those Bungie was going to make a D3 after the final shape DLC. Marathon looks to be a hit and a D3 announcement could break records.