Not everyone cares about having an overpowered console, all that really matters in the end for consoles is if it has fun games. I'll give you that Nintendo needs to do more work on the online infrastructure if they want to have a presence with multiplayer games.

You should change the beginning of your name to "Arse" cuz that's about what you are the warlord of.

It'll sell well enough, but it's rather over-priced/under-powered in it's current form to have long-term success. Nintendo's games don't require much storage or processing power so it'll be similar to WiiU in that it'll run first-party games fine, and won't have much 3rd party support since most current-gen games would take up all of the internal storage, and even the biggest SDHC cards are half the size of the XB1/PS4 base hard drive size.

You kind of ignore the other part of their argument, the 'nothing else' bit, which is just about as ignorant as saying just another Mario game.

So why would they?

The bunch of other great looking experiences to be had on the system.

It isn't "just another Call of Duty". More like "Just another FPS". The difference is that the Western Market is mostly FPS games, like oversaturated. Don't get me wrong I like a good FPS also. But that is mostly what we get and where the money is put. Nintendo doesn't focus on FPS games.

Also we get a Mario game every 3-5 years or longer. Not every year.

People count Mario Kart as "Another Mario game".

I do think that Nintendo can do better overall. But Mario Odyssey looks awesome.

Not with big title Games. New GTA, COD, Battlefield, Destiny, and more will never released on the switch. It will be supported by many third party with games that are not graphical huge.

The Switch isn't going to overtake PS4, XBO and PC combined so 3rd parties are still going to release their big games like battlefront, cod, assassins creed, far cry etc on those like they always have. If the Switch isn't powerful enough to run any of those games then it'll miss out on them.

However, if the switch sees some really good numbers, hopefully we'll see more stuff like mario + rabbids designed specifically for switch.

@Mega- "Third party publishers care about install base, and when Switch's install base gets big enough, third parties will not ignore it"

Well that incorrect.

They care about install base.....a install base that BUYS THEIR GAMES! Having a high install base, doesn't mean your games can work on a weak system or will even sell.

Example

Wii, 100 million units, yet no Metal Gear Solid, no Resident Evil 5 or 6, no Battlefield or Mass Effect or Dead Space etc, the list goes on.

Wii U, powerful enough to support those titles and was still skipped by 3rd party.

Its not enough to have a LARGE install base, it needs to be ENOUGH to sell your games in terms of what the install base wants.

I Am Setsuna is not on XONE, XONE sold around 30 million (just a guess folks) yet its NOT on XONE, yet on Vita and ON Switch, also on PS4.

Whats the point I'm making?

XONE has more units the Switch, but clearly some titles like I Am Setsuna, Dragon Quest series etc are not coming to it, yet coming to Switch, even with Switch having MILLIONS less.

Why?

Because they BUY those games!!!

The install base MUST exist that wants those games before any 3rd party waste their time.

What you are seeing right now, is 3rd parties taking a stance EARLY based on what happened with Wii and Wii U. They couldn't sell JACK! Thus had to go else where.

They tried with ACIV on Wii U, they tried with Mass Effect on Wii U, they tried with RE on 3DS and Wii U, they just couldn't justify any longer putting games on a system that were just not selling.

Thus, you saw Ubisoft state this.

https://arstechnica.com/gam...

Soooo clearly that concept makes sense to them, thus, no more trying with Watchdogs or AC etc, they are just skipping it and move on. They tested the market, they failed, they are moving on and keep their main titles OFF NINTENDO platforms.

Square.

http://nintendoeverything.c...

Capcom

https://www.vg247.com/2017/...

http://www.nintendolife.com...

ReSpawn / EA

http://www.express.co.uk/en...

So the days of "testing" a game out on a market are done. They don't need to keep wasting money seeing "if" a IP can work with Nintendo fans. They tried that for 2 gens and are making it clear, money will not be wasted on that install base with top IPs.

3rd parties won't ignore it, but they won't be putting their top tier IP on it. You'll see Sonics and Just Dance etc, don't expect Yakuza or Final Fantasy etc

By Sony's big exclusive? Oh, that's right they don't have one...neither does MS. Nintendo is doing and going to do just fine. Just because you love to hate with absolutely zero reason doesn't mean they are going to fail lol. This fall will be great for me. Uncharted will kill the time until Mario and Mario will kill the time until Star Wars and who knows if Xenogears is going to come out this year but I'll get that if it does. Too bad Sony could get God of War out this year instead of holding on to it like all of their exclusives until early 2018.

@Summon- "By Sony's big exclusive? Oh, that's right they don't have one"

They will have enough to move units. Call Of Duty, Battlefront 2, Assassins Creed, Destiny 2 etc is more then enough for them to shift record units.

PS gamers don't just buy PS SOLELY for exclusives. As to why they have that support in the first place.

" Just because you love to hate"

SMH

Can you ever make a post without some personal ,emotionally charged attack?

This system for a fact has less titles, titles that will move more units in the fall, then the Switch itself. Consider, COD is easily likely to move 20 plus million units.

This isn't based on "hate", its simply based on math. Switch for a fact has LESS IP on it that move those units, thus, PS4 is likely to move more units this fall. Mario isn't moving 20 million units bud.

"Uncharted will kill the time until Mario and Mario will kill the time until Star Wars and who knows if Xenogears is going to"

ok....thats nice.

That can "kill the time" for YOU! That is what YOU LIKE!

You seriously don't get that over 20 million buy Call Of Duty a year and NOT Mario? You seriously don't understand that the last Battlefront moved 13 million units in 3 months? It moved almost more units in 3 months, then Wii U did in YEARS!!!!

You keep trying to turn this into a Sony vs Nintendo thing, when this is actually simply a 1 publisher vs 20 thing.

Those titles won't outsell Battlefront 2, Call Of Duty, Assassin's Creed, Destiny 2 etc.

Switch will get slaughtered in the fall simply based on 3rd party games alone. You are asking someone to buy a system that is weaker and for less games for the MORE money then a PS4 which will have more games.

Its very, very clear they are going to get outsold in the fall.

Xenogears is not coming to the Switch either, I have no clue what game you are talking about (making up games now? lol ) When did they confirm a remake?

If you mean Xenoblade.....I don't see how that game will beat Star Wars Battlefront 2, when the first Battlefront might have sold more units the the Wii U COMBINED! LMFAO!

Whats next? Just Dance going to "kill the time until" lol

like what you like, this isn't a war on your feelings bud, this is simply saying 1 number is bigger then the other.

What you like is irrelevant, your personal bias is IRRELEVANT to facts.

Heck, me not liking Nintendo is IRRELEVANT to that they will likely get outsold in the fall. Its your 3 or so games you listed against multiple publishers. Understand, that sales in the fall, might come based on content in the spring. Gaming systems are still investments.

Stuff like Monster Hunter coming to PS4, God Of War , Far Cry 4 etc will likely help shift sales in the fall.

Its not as if consumers do not know those games are coming in the spring.

Leave the emotion out of it bud, you argue waaaaaay to much about irrelevancies.

Same could be said about any game, your point?

@10th- "We've known about Arms, Splatoon 2, Xenoblade, Mario + Rabbids, Super Mario Odyssey, Fire Emblem Warriors, a mainline Fire Emblem, etc . . . Since the console launched. If none of those titles interest you why would you buy the console?"

Why base the purchase on a system based SOLELY on those IP?

If they bought it for BOTW, they might just be waiting for another game like that or something else.

I personally don't care about more then half of that list.

I'm more then likely only going to buy Mario Rabbids RPG

Thats about it.

You keep making theses list of games YOU LOVE and its like.....can you even for a little but, get where other folks are coming from? We all don't like the same thing, we all won't like the same thing. Its not saying he is lying or fake or anything like that, simply that he doesn't care about those IP as much as you do.

I only really care about buying Mario Rabbids and Animal Crossing and the SMT title.

That is a very, very small amount of titles to really buy a system for. I owned more games for PS4 AT LAUNCH then I see for the next year for Switch that I'd be interested in.

I owned Call Of Duty Ghost, ACIV, Knack, Killzone and BF4 at PS4's launch.

I understand why this person is expecting a little more.

They need something new, because the preconceived notion of Mario and the fisher price kids is what people are thinking about when they see this system.

That isn't a good thing. It means some gamers have made their choice before the release. Its NINTENDO'S job to make something new to reverse that. Something that shows them you don't know what your going to get from us just yet.

Yet ARMS and Splatoon pretty much are Fisher Price CENTRAL in terms of the art direction and concept. Its more games, aimed at the same damn people that were always going to buy such things.

They need concepts and games that they normally would NOT have.

Name a series you hate that has had at least 8 releases.

Now.....understand, do you legit think you'll change your mind when the 9th title comes back? OH suddenly LOVE that publisher and buy all their games? How is it you don't get that selling the same thing, to the same people, will not grow you, it will only keep you at the same base if not shrink your install base.

Look at them now. Wii U, 3DS and Switch COMBINED is barely above the PSP sales alone. They lost many gamers likely because they failed to GROW!

How can a publisher make you a fan of a series you hate by doing the same thing every generation?

@_-EDMIX-_,

Lord you're senile.

All I'm saying is that we've known about most of the Switch's first year lineup ever since it launched. It's fine those games don't appeal to him. I'm just saying if those are the games that don't appeal to him then maybe he shouldn't have bought the console?

You're saying you don't find the console appealing because there's only handful of titles that appeal to you, I'm saying if that's the case then don't buy it.

I'm not saying Nintendo shouldn't diversify their lineup and try to increase third party support, I'm saying if those are what really matters to someone then they shouldn't pick up a Switch unless/until we know those are on the way.

XStation4pio_Pro said he bought one and isn't playing it and none of the game interest him. If none of those games interest someone they probably shouldn't buy one. If the lineup isn't diverse enough and it means the console only sells 20 million then what the hell do I care? That's Nintendo's fault.

Well, with Mario it should easily hit 10 million its first year. If they can produce more I can see it hitting 15 million its first year. The demand is definitely there, especially in Japan (where Monster Hunter hasn't even hit yet). Pokemon is basically another guaranteed 10 million. Animal Crossing should be coming before too long as well. Between all of that lifetime sales should be 30 million at the very least. That's over double the Wii U.