Spencer is a tool.

why are you mentioning Spencer? did he write this article?

@death Your fanboy is showing.
OT: PS4 are all similar in that they are fun.

@UCForce

All phil said is that Multiplayer games are the ones that make the most money and that's 100% truth. Without multiplayer. Gaming would still be seen as a "nerd" thing and wouldn't be nearly as mainstream as it is today.
Stop acting like suddenly singleplayer is the be all end all of gaming just because your favorite platformholder is focusing on singleplayer experiences. You don't need to put the other one down to prop one up.

This is exactly why I don't own a saw me, so I'm just not into those games I really don't like single player especially if I'm going to have to follow a linear path.

I'd have to agree with Spencer, how many people come back to those story driven games? Skyrim? Absolutely. Dishonored? Less so. Need story modes that people come back to and have no problem with spending 100 hours for a story that they know. Playing through far cry 3 right now but when I'm done I'll probably never play it again. Even the cod campaigns hugely are replayable such as mwr mission all ghillied up.

The problem is they are all 8 hour experiences that you beat in a sitting or two then take into the nearest used game store. I much prefer a game with more content - great single player, great coop, great multiplayer you can play for months. You just can't find that in Sony exclusives.

@UForce

I can see why Sony fans don't like Phil Spencer. I'm a big fan of Xbox but due to my husband being a Sony fan am supporting both platforms and have enjoyed what I've played on playstation with exception of the Japanese styled games which everyone know I'm not a fan of on any platform.

The issue can be said that there is not enough follow up on all of Phil's comments, yes there is a lot of followup but I can see why people either don't believe him or feel he isn't completely honest with us. It's a bit like politicians, you have to dance around the areas where you know you are currently weak but can't announce what you're doing about it just yet.

Sean Layden is the same but even when he is able to tell the truth his eyes don't reflect his mood or the emotion he's trying to show. My lads call him a "serial killer" because of those dead eyes he has and I kind of understand what they mean.

@Dante Horizon, Wipeout, and Gravity Rush 2 were all made by Sony.

@Edmix

While I don't technically agree. I can see how the overall feel of the controls can make someone think it plays similar. Personally I think Horizon is more comparable to RotTR with the gameplay.

Edit: Which by no means is a bad thing.

@Foxtrot

You always seem to point out every competitors concerns with first party. You should see the same for first party games at Sony. How do you not see that every game is a last of Us clone or Uncharted Clone. Further, were are the MP games for Sony. How is it that nobody calls this out. Please provide a decent response. As I do not want any fanboy arguments. By the way here are the games that are copying Uncharted and Last of Us.

Horizon
God of War
Days Gone
Detroit

DanteFenris666,

Horizon is Guerilla, a Sony owned studio like Turn10 or 343i to Microsoft. Gravity Rush is Sony Japan.

@dante

Also Gravity Rush is made by Sony Japan, so there's 3 games on that list he did are by Sony.

Auto,

Please list how these games are like Last of Us or Uncharted?

Let me guess
Days Gone has Zombies= Lat of us
God Of War= Free moving camera with a kid int he story = Last of us
Horizon: you play the game with a controller = Uncharted + Last of us
Detroit: You play with a controller and it comes out on ps4 = Uncharted + Last of us

Days Gone,God Of War,Horizon and Detroit : Single Player games that have story = Last of us + Uncharted

Please add to them.

@daDrunk-you were asked several times by several users to actually list these features in regards to similarities and it sounds to me like you want to be vague because you probably realize they're not as similar as you assume.

If you want someone to actually believe anything that you're posting you actually have to really be specific about your post and give great reasons to prove your point you guys seem to be riding off of "feels the same" or "similarities" yet not really going into deep specifics.

Sorry buddy but it actually sounds like the games you guys listed have as much specific with each other as a third-person game is probably going to have by default.

Let me guess they're over-the-shoulder sometimes they have guns there cinematic scenes?

Are you scared that the second you start to list features your technically going to be talking about almost all major third-person games?

I mean what was even exclusively done by Uncharted that is done in the games that you guys listed but not done and any other game in history?

seriously is there a reason why you guys are literally dead in your tracks about answering this question? They've been several people that have literally asked you guys to list what you're talking about and it seems like you guys won't answer.

I mean you guys helped destroy your own Theory by your own silence to the question.

@Foxtrot
I completely agree. Some of the upcoming games will have cinematic cutscenes that will flow seamlessly over to gameplay, but that is where the similarities begin and end.

Days Gone - survival
God of War - action adventure
The Last of Us 2 - survival
Spider-man - action adventure
Death Stranding - who knows?
Dreams
Detroit Become Human
GT Sport - coming soon
Hellblade - coming soon
Uncharted Lost Legacy - coming soon

The PS4 has more games coming this year than any other console. The author is just looking for clicks

@Dante
MLB the show
Gravity Rush 2
Horizon Zero Dawn

All made by Sony studios.

@ Edmix

You seem really butthurt about my opinion. Also yeah if they feel like every other 3rd person game... isn't that sort of another problem? Horizon really doesn't do ANYTHING new besides having dino robots.... its the games gimmick and that is fine.

I'm not saying its a bad thing and I'm certainly not going to waste my time going through every reason why I think those 5 games are similar. if you don't think they feel the same, that's fine. I'll just get a ton of downvotes and you'll get a ton of upvotes and the world will continue.

DaDrunk

You mean you can't and you're just a troll.

They were talking about 1st party exclusives. Yes, 3rd party exclusive actually balances things out. Seriously, the 3rd party exclusives is what keeps Sony's library so diverse. There are more 3rd party exclusives on the PS4 then 1st party. Last gen the XBox 360 had more 3rd party exclusives then 1st party. Still the article creators complaint is just silly.

@RpgSama
Some of the games are 3rd party, not first party games. MLB, GT Sport & Knack 2 are different games though. None of those will be as big as Horizon: ZD, God of War or Days Gone.

how is horizon similar with uncharted, seriously fanboys? if anything it's more like tomb raider + monster hunter

@dadrunken lol, this is the guy who said he owns all platforms? said he's 'excited' for Voodoo Vince and Cuphead while talking down Horizon to death with 'similarities' pulled out of his ass, and the best he can say when people ask for the list of similarities is 'the feel'.

@dadrunk-. "not going to waste my time going through every reason why I think those 5 games are similar"

Yet you've posted how many times on this article? Buddy it's because you can't

everyone actually already knows it's because you don't have real solid reasons.

All you seem to have are subjective ,immeasurable, vague ,broad reasons that's why you're actually scared to State anything specifically.

It's very difficult for anyone to believe any of the stupid crap you post when you yourself cannot even defend your own post with the real specific reasons.

You simply say "feel" but don't go on to specifically stay with your talking about or "elements" but again don't go on the specifically State what you're talking about 😂😂😂

I think all the users that have actually been asking you and your buddies to explain yourselves have outed just how dumb your post actually are.

I'm not sure how you could make a conversation about games being similar but also get stopped dead in your tracks when being asked about the specifics of those similar features.

I mean your silence about these mysterious elusive features that you simply can't name or can't be bothered with kind of proves my point way better than anything I could post.

How can anyone take your post seriously when you don't even take your own post seriously enough to post real features and reasoning?

I mean put it this way any dumb a person could say Mario Kart feels like Halo 5 yet give no solid evidence or even a list of features to explain their statement.

Nier on pc
Persona 5 ps3 port
Yakuza 0 on ps3 port
Wipeout HD more ports (I know playstation gamers love ports)
please dont give me that "its a playstation exclusvie" BS

@ jstark

what are you smoking bro.....lol, stop

@ DaDrunkenJester... its time to put up or shut up as they say. Clarify or be gone.

....To be fair, the only titles I felt were similar were Days Gone and The last of us .....I literally thought it was tlou2 when I was watching the gameplay. The rest is downplay imo and very cherry picky. The less popular titles are being ignored just so a felonious point can be vaguely made.

Bottom line...there's just more choice but its way easier to have similarities when there are that much more titles in development than if you had 2 or 3. This year will go down as one of sonys (+any manufacturers) best ever years. No silly rhetoric will change that... I just hope sony can replicate this year next year in regards to quantity, quality and variety.

Dante
Horizon made by Sony's Own GG
Gravity Rush 2 is made by Sony Japan Studios
WipEout Omega is done by Xdev right? Under Sony WW Studios? I'm not sure but the original games were made by Sony Devs either way.
All 3 are very different and all different from uncharted

Maybe if you can't list every reason why they're similar, you can list at least one that doesn't involve, "they feel the same".

What does that even mean?

Here, I'll help.

From Sony's first party, they all start with the "Sony Interactive Logo" at the beginning".

Some other similarities

1. They're good to great games.
2. They all have good sound tracks.
3. They all have good to great graphics.

That's 4 reasons they're the same. Took me all of 3 minutes to type this comment.

Shouldn't take more than a minute to type up an objective reason that actually involves more than some vague reference to your feelings which is entirely personal to you, but apparently to no one else.

Anyone saying Sony doesn't make diverse games must not know much about Sony

@Foxtrot
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Nier - Hack and slash*

Yakuza 0 - Open world beat em up*

What remains of edith finch - walking sim

@Godmars

Wrong. Not all. Neir shouldnt be in that list if youre talking "Real" exclusives.

@EatCrow:
You want to nitpick this as only Foxtrot's comment, fine you win, but the actual fact is that games like Neir are PS-only. Its also fact that for whatever reason MS can't get such 3rd party titles on the Xbox. Even though they did at one point during the 360 era.

Overall, in the grander scheme, MS isn't giving the comment-board segment of its fan base anything solid to argue with. Namely games.

@EatCrow
If you are going to say PS4 exclusives that are also available on PC are not really exclusive, then Xbox has zero exclusives.

How dare you understand? How dare you oppose sony lololol

Microsoft has released one game in 10 months when the generation should be at it's peak.

And regardless of what games are actually published by Sony, Sony has way better third party support which is why there are more retail exclusives every month on PS4 than Microsoft has in a year.

The first real big PS4 game was Infamous SS. Cut the crap

@Moldy
It did? Man I swear the haters were always saying it had no games? Things didn't get interesting for the PS4 until 2008 and 2009. Meanwhile in year 2 PS4 got the highest rated exclusive: Bloodborne. That was the first killer exclusive

Even if they are releasing less games than before like you say, thet still release more games han xbox. That doesn't help your argument

@moldyexcuses Harp, let us know how Dreams turns out when it launches and you buy it, darp.

Oh sorry, I don't know what came over me, I think I went into Moldy style thinking there when writing that comment lol.

On top of all the AAA third party games? I think you are solidifying the fact that Sony has, in fact, offered more than any other console this gen while also providing new games/ip's.
Especially Sony has already released 4 this year with more to come for 2017 and very strong 2018 and a lot of them are award winning games with multiple game of the year winners and contenders.
Next, how many of those games are repetitive releases?
The last guardian, horizon, nier, niho, bloodborne, driveclub, knack and the order with Detroit become human, gt sport(a new take on gt), days gone coming within the year that are fresh new ips this gen.
Sony offers so much more that fans do not need goal posts to have an argument about their library.
What has Microsoft offered new? Quantum and sunset? Cool story bro.

media molecule takes time to release their games.. so nothing new...

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moldybread ,

How many of those games can you play elsewhere? Look at the ridiculousness of your logic:

"People here have this myth that Sony creates this vast selection of games, as you can see in the link they are not putting out more games this generation.

First year, 2 major titles
Second year 4 major titles
Third year 5 major titles
Last year, 4 major titles "

You're saying two disparate things. First, you talk about them not creating a vast list of games, then you trivialize Sony's actual contributions to their own platforms by identifying *major* titles.

Also, Sony juggled PSP and PS2 as the PS3 released. PS3 was also active for 11 years. Then, PS3, PS Vita (for a time), and PS4.

Lastly, of course the amount of games Sony (or ANYONE for that matter) is providing is getting shorter. Games are becoming increasingly complex. The more detailed the game, the longer it tends to take to create. Microsoft is able to pull it off because they basically do what UbiSoft and Activision do with annual franchises, staggered teams, and using existing groundwork. That is why you see Halo or Gears less often than Forza. At the end of the day, you spent some decent time researching Wikipedia, making a comment, and even organized it for readability...and yet you said nothing. PlayStation, regardless of Sony's "major" contributions, is doing something very right because every PlayStation console has been very successful. Every. Single. One. Their only "failure" is the Vita.

You are a fool, moldybread. Your point contradicts itself, consistently, but you continue to make such stupid, ill-informed comments. I only reply to your stupid, ill-informed comments in hopes of getting you to reconsider the perspective in which you see things. It is either pointless because you do not understand or you are vehemently trolling. It's both amusing and unfortunately sad that, following that comment, you try to re-balance your comment (as you seem to do very often) with some pro-PlayStation remark. In this case:

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"I will however attack the author, Detroit is very much different than other games."

You are predictable. You are generic. Without fail, moldybread will do as moldybread has always done. The best part of your comment regarding Sony's "major" games is how it disregards the quality of these titles and your truncation of time windows. You count the launch games (Killzone:SF and Knack) as the only first-year titles while ignoring the games that came out before PS4 was available for a full year--it launched in November, you fool. Of course it only looks like two, as you ignore the network titles in favor of "major" titles. Let's break it down in terms of quality...

-Killzone SF: 73 on MetaCritic. Passable, but not amazing.
-Knack: 54. Mediocre, but better than bad, if barely. Launch titles.
-DriveClub: 71. Prior to the game's updates. It turned into an actually good game. Reviewers never updated their scores.
inFamous SS: 80. Well-received. Slightly less than previous entries. Lives up to series.
MLB The Show 14: 83. Well-received.
LBP3: 79. Well-received. Not developed by MM though.
Bloodborne: 92.
MLB 15: 81
MLB 16: 85. Better than previous years.
The Last Guardian: 82. Well received.
Uncharted 4: 93

You can compare that to Microsoft and Nintendo's "major" releases from first-party studios yourself. Nintendo will likely win in terms of quality and quantity, but it's apparent the only "bad" releases are launch titles and a game that was rushed and supposed to be a launch title.

You are so predicable in many ways.

Detroit is movie not game

@Aspiring the PS4 wasn't out in 2008/ 2009 so how could things get interesting for it, so i'm sure you mean't to say PS3

Strange, some people don't like hearing the truth I guess. Just like Phil Harrison said (about the cost of development and exclusives) that so many seemed to disagree with but the proof is right in front of them. Not once did I ever say Microsoft was better, I just showed how Sony is not tracking the same as they used to with output of games.

You are the one in denial trying to fool everyone.

Even if games are expensive to make they still keep releasing more games than the competition. Also they weren't releasing hundreds of PS games yearly in previous gen. The difference between then and now is not that big.

So how about you stop making excuses for MS's lack of exclusives?

Last time I checked the PS4 has over double the amount of games on the platform.

I guess your brains a little mouldy. Not just your bread.

@UC,

The Lionhead closure wasn't "hostile". Unexpected maybe, but not hostile. Evo's closure wasn't "nice" like some people want to believe. Much of the staff was laid off a year prior to the closure. Luckily Codemasters picked up quite a bit of the remaining crew. This wasn't Sony looking out for Evolution, it was Codemasters. Guirilla Cambridge was another recent closure, they were just as shocked as the rest of us. http://www.playstationlifes... and they had additional content they were working on that was never released. Closures suck any way you look at it. Trying to spin any in a positive way is pure and utter BS.

Would I kill single player games? Absolutely. I'm not sure why some people believe a single player game that offers co-op or multiplayer options takes away from the single player experience. I play Halo and Gears by myself in a dark room with no distractions the first play through. I then do the same in co-op with by best friend and then we tackle multiplayer together. The reason for this is so I can listen to and enjoy the story without my idiot friend fast forwarding through it. I just picked up Shadow of Mordor for $4.00 on the Xbox store. I am really enjoying it and can't believe I missed it in 2014. The only thing that would make it better to me would be a co-op mode. Co-op and multiplayer add value to a game by offering more re-playability. On the flip side of things I would also kill online only games since they are missing the single player element. Titanfall always felt half done since there was no single player game to play. Horizon Zero Dawn is one of the best games to come out this generation. A co-op mode or multiplayer mode would only have made it better since it would have added to an already great game.

@Death There is one thing I don't like about you. You don't have a gut to follow, you always stick with that logical side of your. Trying to be a smart ass, but you are not really. No matter how good you are, you will eventually be outsmarted by someone who is smarter than you. You are always evasive. Not every games need Coop and multiplayer. After all, Single Players was and will be the first foundation.

"Would I kill single player games? Absolutely. I'm not sure why some people believe a single player game that offers co-op or multiplayer options takes away from the single player experience."

Tinkering a worthwile mp wastes money and work that could be invested in the singleplayer experience.

In addition don't you think cod's battefield's and the all the other generic crap campaigns wouldn't be better if the devs would soley focus on the sp experience?

@death I did not praise poly (they have been a little slow.) Releasing sequels every year dilutes your franchise though as seen with cod and assassins creed.

@DDJ- but thats just it. Sony do not create games for PS4 in a vacuum. Theyre fully aware which games are being made , exclusively or otherwise for the platform. Games are created to sell, make cash and sell systems so Sony fund the games they feel fills out the roster so as many gamers as possible are catered for and theres always exclusive reasons for gamers to buy a PS4.

As a result, talking about first party in.isolation is redundant and risks the author looking like theyve another motive. Personally, I think Sony usually do pretty well ensuring there are many varied reasons to playon PS.

These, anyway, arent very similar games and Im not really sure the article says a great deal with it coming from a skewed perspective tobegin with.

It's simply ridiculous. Multiplat games sell millions and most of them are very similar. Almost all Ubisoft games could be accused of that but gamers are enjoying and buying them because the see the difference between them.

There are gamers with battlefield and CoD which have strong similiraties and very different too. If this author thinks it's a problem, he should be talking about the whole industry and not just Sony.

If you think it's a growing trend for sony, where have you been the last 10-15 years? After GTA3, how many publishers wanted an open world game in their stable? What about last gen aka first person gen?.

What about the 2K? Mafia, GTA, Red dead etc.... I don't think the author plays games much but he obviously loves talking about them.

@ED,

Nintendo has games in every category you listed except sim racer. They also have games that don't fit any traditional genre. You are trying to use Sony's strengths and are ignoring what Nintendo brings to gaming to prove your point. Both have excellent first party games, but it's hard to deny the diversity Nintendo has. I don't even know how to define the genre many Nintendo games fall in.

Now you are just fooling yourself. Like seriously ?

I feel Nintendo would have deserved that during the GameCube days or maybe even early Wii, but I don't think it holds as much weight today. If you ignore the tent-poles like Breath of the Wild or Super Mario Odyssey, the only thing that really stands out to me is Arms. Mario Kart 8 is the latest a series that hasn't changed much in years, Splatoon 2 is a sequel that doesn't change hardly anything from its predecessor, and the new Yoshi and Kirby titles look so familiar I wasn't even aware they were announcing new games.

While Nintendo has a nice variety of game play or genre options, I wouldn't say their games are overly diverse on the other metrics like graphics or presentation, and outside a few notable examples they feel more the same because of that lack of diversity in those other metrics.