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Partial Backwards Compatibility Just Doesn't Cut It - A look at the feature's history

Ever since the Atari 7800, backwards compatibility has been a very cool hardware feature. Now that console manufacturers are striving to expand their compatible libraries, is partial backwards compatibility good enough or should we just keep our old consoles?

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Outside_ofthe_Box3242d ago

Partial BC is better than none, but it shows the difficulty of it. MS wasn't lying when they initially said that they thought it wasn't possible on the XB1. They found a game by game basis solution eventually which is better than not having it all.

Full traditional BC should make it's return next gen, I assume.

crazyaejay3242d ago

Microsoft made the XB1 so why didn't they architect it with full backwards compatibility in mind? Seems like they made more work for themselves by not thinking ahead.

I hope full BC comes back next gen, too, but only time will tell.

Outside_ofthe_Box3242d ago

If I recall correctly, MS stated that XB1 and 360 architecture is different. That would mean the only way to have full BC would either be to have 360 hardware inside the XB1(this would raise the cost of the system) or to do it via software from the ground up for the XB1, but that would require a lot of resources and testing to make sure every game works for it and keep in mind that MS had a different mind set when making the XB1 pre-Phil.

The partial BC that they have now is easier(they got it set up a year or 2 after the launch of the XB1?) and cheaper(they pick and choose which games they add based off consumer interest and don't have to worry about all games having to work).

optimus3242d ago (Edited 3242d ago )

I for one don't mind a partial list, especially one that is voted on by the fans...on the one hand Sony had a point when they took it off the ps3 in that not everyone uses it after a few months. Which I believe holds true.

i think that having a partial list gives people an incentive and allows the ones that didn't get to play these "popular" games the 1st time around play them now and see what was so good about them...it's similar to when a movie you haven't seen wins a bunch of awards and you go and rent it or buy it on blu-ray to see what all the fuss was about....

In contrast when you have a game system that can play every game from last generation there really isn't any promotion behind it and people simply forget about those games in the long run.

TheOttomatic913242d ago

Meh I disagree BC is awesome as long as it's done right.

MilkMan3242d ago

I love this feature but Microsoft has fuqed this up royally. It's to the point I don't even play my Xbox One anymore, just play my 360.

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Two more Xbox 360 titles spotted on Microsoft Store with backwards compatibility IDs

We recently came across some strange store activity that could suggest Microsoft is making more games backwards compatible. Now, we've spotted another two Xbox 360 titles on the Microsoft Store with the backwards compatible ID.

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Sciurus_vulgaris1676d ago

I hope to see the Timesplitters series get added to the current backwards compatibility catalogue. Goldeneye -Esque shooters aren’t made anymore.

Sheppard21675d ago

I loved those games so much back in the day.

Knightofelemia1676d ago (Edited 1676d ago )

Silent Hill 2 and 4 would be better titles to add to the BC list the a then Are You Smarter then a 5th Grader First Templar I have never heard of. I am not going out of my way to buy these two titles kind of lazy to add these two titles when all Microsoft has to do is bang on Konami's door to add SH2 and 4. Downpour and Homecoming work so why not add 2 and 4 to the list.

BehindTheRows1676d ago

Because 2 & 4 were only available in the HD Collection for the 360.

MissAubrey1676d ago (Edited 1676d ago )

You mean 2&3 are in the HD collection.. Silent Hill 4 the Room was only on the OG Xbox, pc and ps2. But is currently playable thru BC on the xbox 360, not xbox one

BehindTheRows1676d ago (Edited 1676d ago )

@MissAubrey

Yes, I’m aware (I own every Silent Hill game released - yes, all, the PS1 original all the way down to the PC, Xbox, and Wii releases, and am emulating the first on PC). I know what’s what. I simply couldn’t change the typo nor finish the edit since N4G’s option expires.

Regardless, 4 was never an Xbox 360 game, and therefore, BC can’t exist in the way he’s requesting for it.

Knightofelemia1676d ago (Edited 1676d ago )

@BehindTheRows

SH2 and SH3 are on the HD Collection and yes BC can work with the OG Xbox on Xbox 1, Series X/S Microsoft has all ready added some OG Xbox games to the list of BC games. Microsoft even announced that some OG Xbox games will work on newer Xbox systems at E3.

Knightofelemia1675d ago (Edited 1675d ago )

@BehindtheRows

SH2 on the HD Collection is a poor mans copy it's way different from the PS2 and OG Xbox port so is SH3 in the HD Collection is way different then its PS2 cousin.

BehindTheRows1675d ago (Edited 1675d ago )

@MissAubrey

I never said you DID say that. I was talking about him.

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BehindTheRows1676d ago (Edited 1675d ago )

Uh, yes I know (like I already said, it was a typo). You asked about 2 (already BC in the HD Collection) and 4, which ISN’T on the 360, unlike 3, Downpour, and Homecoming.

If you’re speaking about Xbox BC, in general, then that’s different and 4 (from the original Xbox) will most likely be added one day. Your other option is to maybe grab a PC and a copy or emulate the PS2 version with said PC.

MissAubrey1675d ago (Edited 1675d ago )

I said SH4 was playable on the 360 thru OG xbox backwards compatibility. "playable on 360" not playable on Xbone/Series.

BehindTheRows1675d ago

Yeah, the HD Collection wasn’t very good, but that’s besides the point. :P

dreamed1675d ago

I remember first Templar...I didn't play it....it was garbage..😂

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killagram1676d ago

It's too bad we have OG titles like Deathrow and others that haven't been made compatible yet. MS has made a great effort bringing over the majority of their library but 1st gen XBOX titles have fallen through the cracks.

XBManiac1676d ago

The First Templar and Are You Smarter than a 5th Grader?

MissAubrey1676d ago

the moral of the story here folks is they brought bc back! yes these titles suck but atleast we know now they are back at it again after alittle hiatus!

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Backward Compatibility Reaches the Clouds for Xbox Game Pass Ultimate Members

There’s a magical moment when you open up Kameo, an original launch title for Xbox 360, and it shows you last played in 2008, and you’re able to jump right back into the game like you never left.

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RazzerRedux1885d ago

I think if Microsoft really wanted to leverage their 360 library they would work to bring 360 emulation to PC and offer games like Fable 2 on Game Pass for PC.

Wikkid6661885d ago

Their goal would be to keep moving forward will the streaming service. Get the latency down on that so there wouldn't be a need for an emulator.

Tacoboto1885d ago

His point is... they could bring *that* emulator from the cloud hardware and let us be able to run 360-exclusive games on our own PCs.

I'd understand third party games being excluded by licensing deals, but it would be awesome if MS could have 360 emulation as a download into the Windows App for at least their own titles.

Orchard1884d ago

My guess is they haven't done this just because getting reliable/predictable performance with emulation on PC where there's a billion hardware configurations is complicated. Easier to have it running on fixed hardware and streamed to the PC.

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Eidolon1884d ago

It's never going to look or be as latency free as even emulation.

DJStotty1884d ago (Edited 1884d ago )

@saishi

I can not comment on other cloud streaming platforms, but the only issue i have had with xcloud, is the odd bit of freezing, but other than that the games seem to play ok, at least on my galaxy S9.

It's not perfect, but it is good enough for dropping into a game on a work break or lunch.

PS - when i am at home, i do not use xcloud, i use the console. And xcloud performs quite well for something still in beta.

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DJStotty1884d ago (Edited 1884d ago )

@RazzerRedux

Those that want 360 emulation on PC, have been able to do that for years.

I have a PS2 emulator on my mobile.

RazzerRedux1884d ago

Obviously I'm talking about the official Xbox 360 emulation that Microsoft created and not third party emulators.

CaptainHenry9161884d ago

That would be cool. Not going to lie but Microsoft has been saving me lot's of money with GamePass for PC

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Jericho13371885d ago

Great news, glad xcloud isn’t limited just to xbo/xbs games.

autobotdan1885d ago

Finally some Xbox 360 games on X-Cloud for play on cell phones. Took them a long time. I'll play some Morrowind and Oblivion on my phone. Thank you Microsoft

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autobotdan1885d ago (Edited 1885d ago )

Can we please get Ninja Gaiden 2 for X-Cloud please. Since Tecmo will not put original Gaiden 2 on switch. I want to play a portable Ninja Gaiden 2 at work on my lunch hours

Tacoboto1885d ago

It was on Game Pass until a month or two before they announced the Master Collection - very likely not a coincidence.

autobotdan1885d ago

I just would love the option to play Ninia Gaiden 2 anywhere. That would be a dream game to take around. I am not asking for Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2 portable. I want Ninja Gaiden 2 portable

Father__Merrin1884d ago

What you would whip out a phone and then whip out a controller on your break to play games?

autobotdan1884d ago (Edited 1884d ago )

Merrin I always keep a extra Xbox One controller in my walmart work locker 365 days a year. Literally. I've been playing Xbox One games on my lunch hour on my phone for over 1 year. I was a x-cloud beta tester since the beginning

DeadManMMX1885d ago (Edited 1885d ago )

I got this backbone one and have been using it non stop during down time at work. I’ve been remote playing Octopath Traveler getting my grind in. I really love this thing. Highly recommended. Cmon XCloud iOS. This news is good because I want to eventually play Lost Odyssey the same way.

crazyh0rse1885d ago

BackBone is a great ios controller addon been at work for 14 hours now and the controller works perfectly. i think it's better than razer kishi

DeadManMMX1884d ago

Yeah everyone says it’s better then Kishi but that was the other one i weighed before going with this one. This thing feels premium right out of the box.

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15 Xbox Games We Wish Went Backwards Compatible

After Xbox's announcement that there won't be any more backwards compatible games until the release of Project Scarlett, here's a reflection of what could, or perhaps should have been.

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BlackIceJoe2529d ago

Not only would it have been great if Max Payne, Freedom Fighters, Nier, Blur and Lollipop Chainsaw got to become backwards compatible, it also would be great if those games got to have more games come out in their franchises.

VenomUK2528d ago

I want Toby Gard’s Galleon. I have the game but no way to play it and I’m not going to buy an original Xbox again.

Gunstar752528d ago

Blur. Was gutted it never came over, but I guess the licences expired

Primal Rex2528d ago (Edited 2528d ago )

Its not as backwards compatibity is dead its just been put on hold so all backwards compatibity game work on next xbox then when its released they will start up again, P.S I did finish Avatar: The Last Airbender – The Burning Earth

Bigman4k2528d ago

Idk I'm pretty sure they are done with backsward compatible program even when next gen xbox comes out i don't see them announcing new backsward compatible games

darthv722528d ago

i do. There are going to be more og and 360 titles added to the mix for project scarlett.

Jakens2528d ago

Might get the chance when Scarlett comes out. I mean for all games Xbox 360 and Original Xbox. I can dream it happening.

Imortus_san2528d ago

I only needed 10 games, and they are all Shoot em ups.