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Why The Xbox One X Will Fail

The Xbox One X is an upcoming console from Microsoft that is set to serve as a more powerful version of the Xbox One. On paper, this move makes sense. Sony already released the PlayStation 4 Pro so, naturally, Microsoft would want to compete. However, their updated console is going a little overboard.

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corroios3249d ago (Edited 3249d ago )

Fail is a hard word. The reality is that the X isnt for the casuals and it wont sell 1 million each month, but i think Microsoft knows that.

Its console for gamers with lots of Money that wont have problems spending 499, because the rest will buy the S, because the 199 price is perfect, you get all the same games at lower rez, but higher rez doesnt mean more fun playing!

TFJWM3248d ago (Edited 3248d ago )

The thing is if the x1x to x1s/xbo sells at the same rate that the pro is to ps4 that is a hard fail and they won't come close to making their money back on it.

IGiveHugs2NakedWomen3248d ago (Edited 3248d ago )

Fail isn't the right word to use for the Xbox One X because I believe it's part of a new strategy by Microsoft. I think they're trying to integrate Xbox with Windows gaming, while avoiding direct competition with Sony by releasing hardware early. I also believe that the Xbox One X will carry over into next gen with price drops and the next Xbox console (IF THERE IS ONE) will release 2 to 3 years after the release of the PS5. In my opinion, if this new strategy fails to take hold (Multiplats + Power every 3 - 5 years) Microsoft will choose to abandon hardware iterations all together and Xbox Live will become a service... An all digital service.

nitus103248d ago (Edited 3248d ago )

I think the current PS4pro to PS4slim is about 1 in 5 consoles sold (ie. 20%). http://au.ign.com/articles/...

Come November this year when the XB1x releases I would not be surprised if the XB1slim and the PS4slim are around $200 to $250 USD with a selection of attractive (subjective) games. It is also quite possible that the PS4pro will be around the $350 USD mark with a selection of games (maybe one to three depending on the bundle).

This puts the XB1x at a considerable disadvantage monetary wise and even just considering the XBox ecosystem you will most likely be looking at a $250 to $300 USD differential and that is not taking into account a couple of pack-in games.

All that said I personally think the XB1x technical specs are very good for the price and people will buy it but in what ratio of XB1x to XB1slim I don't know since my crystal ball is in the wash at the moment. 🙂

zerocarnage3248d ago

What so your actually saying Sony failed with the pro and hard also with the sales they have??

don't be so silly, but you won't admit that Sony have failed with the pro now will you.

DJStotty3248d ago

Money is made on software, rarely/if ever on hardware sales. Most consoles are sold at a loss/even/small profit

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DARK_WOLF3248d ago (Edited 3248d ago )

Remember how everyone was talking shit about the elite controller being so expensive?

Then ms couldnt stock enough of them as they kept selling by the truck loads.

There is a market for premium products like this.

Not everyone is poor or simply wanting the cheapest possible item.

Some people actually like quality products and are willing to pay.

MegamanXXX3248d ago (Edited 3248d ago )

This is not $150 like a controller this is $500 dollars lol. It's a big difference

jmetalhead778123248d ago

@megaman

If people like myself self are willing to pay $150 for a controller, they're definitely willing to pay $500 for a console. The Elite controller is 2.5 x the cost of a regular controller. By the same comparison, the XB1X would be $625-$750. So, you're actually getting a bargain with the XB1X

luckytrouble3248d ago (Edited 3248d ago )

Although MegamanXXX put it poorly, there is a valid nugget buried in there. As gamers, we tend to overlook the controller market, but consider how many controllers you buy for a system and the amount more you would pay for a truly functional, comfortable controller. It can make the difference between a comfortable couple of hours of gaming and a comfortable binge session. Although it was aimed at enthusiasts, the Elite controller did not only appeal to them. It appealed to gamers in general and was probably the #1 recommended controller for those seeking a new one when they first launched.

The One X isn't comparable to the Xbox Elite Controller. The console market is swamped, and although you'll buy multiple controllers for a console, you won't buy multiple consoles for a controller. The Xbox One X doesn't have the selling power of the Elite controller because, as an accessory, even if expensive as an accessory, it came across as a valuable and optional improvement that required no further work, effort, or trade ins to enjoy.

On the other hand, the actual Xbox One only sells okay even at a lower price point than the PS4, often offering all kinds of bundles, and more power won't fix that. This doesn't appeal to both enthusiasts and casual gamers. This won't be an easy sell in the game store as obviously worth it compared to the substantially cheaper Xbox One S. The Xbox One X is truly an enthusiasts only game console, and it just won't have the selling power to change the console war. There is nothing there for the casual gamer.

JasonKCK3248d ago

MegamanXXX odd, PSVR cost $499 without a console and many on this site consider that a success.

MegamanXXX3248d ago (Edited 3248d ago )

@JasonKCK
Maybe because of Sony install base helped with that. But I didn't know it was a success. Just read Luckytrouble comment because it's facts.

DARK_WOLF3248d ago (Edited 3248d ago )

Luckytroubles comment is not facts.

How is this any different to the elite controllers 'premium' catagory.

Most people will 'upgrade' their console and use their elite controller with it.

Say what you want but as an xbox gamer ive had 4 years of this 900p low quality bullshit.

Its about time xbox got back to POWER and i cant wait to upgrade. Its time.

There are MANY more who feel the same. And im sure alot more who skipped xb1 because of it. Not to mention all the core gamers who want the best performing console and switched to ps4 because it had an edge.

They will switch right back.

The console wont be $500 forever. Things change.

Rhythmattic3248d ago

JasonKCK
But you can't play PSVR games without a PSVR, But you can Play Xbox X games with a One or PC..
I don't really think its a good comparison you used.

Mulando3248d ago

It is always a question whether you want so sell 10m or 1m a year.
Xbox one x is planned to sell 17m by 2020. In my opinion this is realistic and not to optimistic.
It is like with the PS4 pro in 1-2 years, those will sell regular and the base PS4 might not even get produced anymore.

JasonKCK3248d ago

Rhythmattic the subject is "price" not what games can be played on what unit. Every PS fan on this site considers the price of PSVR to be fine but when it comes to X1X it's suddenly "too high". You get nearly twice the power for $100 more with X1X and more features. The $499 for any PS product is perfectly acceptable but not for anyone else. Paying attention yet?

CorndogBurglar3248d ago (Edited 3248d ago )

@ Mmmmmmmmmyummy and Jmetalhead

Lets not confuse "willingness" with "ability".

$150 is much more attainable for people than $500.

Just about anyone with a job can scrounge up $150 a month. $500 is a different story. It doesn't matter if its a controller or console we're talking about. $500 is a LOT of money to come up with. Assuming you're not some kid with no responsibilities.

Gh05t3248d ago

@corndog

So people can come up with the $350 - $400 for a PS4 pro and it's easy to come up with $150 a month if you have a job... So all you are saying is wait a month longer and it should be easy to come up with the money for a One X.

You make it sound like people are buying a new console every month. Save $100 a month since $150 is easy and buy it when it comes out.

Also you don't have to be a child with no responsibility to he able to afford $500. Many hobbies are WAY more expensive. My $500 every few years pales in comparison to the amount of money other hobbies cost.

segamaniaco3248d ago

Still didnt reach the mass market
So its niche like XoX

morganfell3248d ago

"The console wont be $500 forever. Things change."

This.

Because the PS4, the PS4 Pro will get massive price drops this fall/holiday. It is going to be absolutely ugly. Even PSVR is going to see a price cut.

dp2774073248d ago

Yea but I bought two Elite controllers for my PS4's at the time so not like every Xbox only player/owner bought em.

KillBill3248d ago

Yep... and when they said nobody would be dumb enough to pay for a brand new iPhone when a new one was just released the year before.

Rhythmattic3247d ago (Edited 3247d ago )

JasonKCK
If its about price.. I agree the X is excellent value... And so are all the MS/Somy consoles....
Im just suggesting PSVR is not comparable to an X. price or not.
In simple terms, Its like comparing a console to a TV.

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Markusb333248d ago

Well said it's not for mass market or casuals but I'm sure MS will just add each sale to its overall sales and say they have a bigger install base. It is true 4k doesn't mean a better game or more fun. Trouble is 60fps would make a better game. I think that is for real next gen systems

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Bigpappy3249d ago

Tell us more about the fail. So interesting. /s

BiggerBoss3248d ago

Well, the Xbox is already selling WAY less than the Ps4. It has WAY less games than the Ps4 too. And now MS is releasing a new XBoX that's more expensive than the Ps4 while still having WAY less games.

Nah, it's gonna work out great for them.

Bigpappy3248d ago (Edited 3248d ago )

Superior hardware on the scale of X1X would and should cost more despite games count.
We are talking hardware quality here. Games sold separately.

AngelicIceDiamond3249d ago

"Power: I'm not entirely sure that matters. I truly don't think third-party developers are going to go out of their way to make sure the Xbox One X version is superior to the PlayStation 4 Pro version."

I most certainly hope they would. They did it with PS4 and X1 why would they stop now with these consoles? Funny how the the power is " doesn't matter" narrative is switched. I never switched my narrative on power 4 years back and don't plan on switching this goes for Sony and MS fanboys switching narrative roles its either power doesn't matter or it does pick one and stick with it.

AustinFern3248d ago

They did with the PS4 and Xbox One because they were the start of a new generation, this is not. I cod be wrong, but I just don't think devs will bother going beyond what the PS4 Pro can manage.

yeahright23248d ago

But the devs didn't do that because the PS4 was more powerful. they did that because they saw the PS4 version of games selling more so they developed with it in mind first. Just like did with the 360. Just look at how broken so many PC games end up being and if you're talking power, PC wins hands down.
As for the "power doesn't matter" that point was missed on the xbox side. They took it as PS4 was selling more because it was more powerful, but it wasn't that. It was more powerful for less money. Value proposition. It made MS look like they were nickel and diming. The power argument back in the day was way more about perception that actual stats. Hell, I still say Ryse looks better than the majority of games this gen. The power gap didn't hurt it one bit.

UnHoly_One3248d ago

With how reportedly easy it is to port to X1X, it shouldn't even be hard for them to take advantage of.

We aren't talking about adding features and making the whole game different here. Higher res, better framerate, or better textures... The same stuff they do for PC versions of games.

Should be super easy. I expect to see the vast majority of games noticeably superior on X1X vs PS4Pro.

But honestly, to me, it doesn't really matter. They are going to be superior to the base X1, and that's all that really matters. I'm going from an Xbox to a better Xbox. How it compares to PS4 is irrelevant except for "console war" arguments.

PhoenixUp3249d ago

It's just an iterative console, what's with all this pressure

jrshankill3248d ago

Exactly. There is no company gamble here at all, and no pressure for anyone to update. It's a luxury item.

lunatic00013248d ago (Edited 3248d ago )

That is what I'm saying...people are acting like this is do or die by Microsoft...this console was made for a specific group...not the mass market who will buy the Xbox one s...same goes for the PS4 pro...don't get why so many articles like this cone out???

Lennoxb633248d ago

It will only fail to those who have already set unrealistic expectations for it. Like catching up to the PS4 in sales or whatnot. It was never meant to be a breakout success. Though MS would be happy if it was.

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Final Fantasy X 25th Anniversary Website Launches With New Nomura Artwork and Merchandise

Square Enix launches Final Fantasy X 25th anniversary site, revealing new Nomura art, books, music releases, and merchandise.

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-Foxtrot23d ago

Look I know VIII has its issues and all that but how on earth can the do big anniversary events with new artwork and merchandise for VII, IX and X yet VIII got sweet f*** all.

They could have given it something during its 25th anniversary yet all it got was a single Happy Anniversary post on their social media.

solideagle23d ago

they should know that we are OG fans of VIII as it sold truckload as well. not as much as VII or X. I personally didn't like IX but X and VI are my personal fav.

Shadow Hearts 2 covenant is another game I love. I hope one day someone can make remake, I would be delighted

Relientk7723d ago

Final Fantasy VIII is great and you are always the first to defend it in the comments

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Relientk7728d ago

I remember playing this back in the day on PS2. What a sick game!

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Outside_ofthe_Box29d ago (Edited 29d ago )

If they go back to exclusive games it at least shows that they are finally getting it. They would be turning down immediate money for something that will potentially workout in the long term.

Only issue is they've already opened Pandora's box. A lot of their base has moved to PC or jumped to PS. So will be a long road to get back on track.

We have been saying this from day one exclusives are a must if you are going to be selling hardware look at Nintendo and Sony before Jim Ryan. That's the proven formula. You had some that were deluded and blinded by loyalty accepting that multiplat was the future and that MS was merely getting ahead of where the industry was headed, but at least they can finally see the light and agree with what everyone has been saying for a decade+

pwnmaster300029d ago

True, blame it on the rabid fanboys. MS can do no wrong and spinner this multiplatform move. While the actual fans moved on.

I feel like with the new Xbox coming they are hoping to bring back those old fans and then if it goes well. Bring back exclusives.

If the new console is performing like series x and one. Naw they staying multiplatform.

darthv7228d ago

Actual fans dont move on... they can add to their hobby while waiting for the next new release. If you believe what you typed then I guess PS fans moved on too.... you know, since its been a Sahara for 1st party games this gen.

S2Killinit28d ago

The fans didn’t tell them to go multilat. MS was forced to after the 82 billion they spent to destroy gaming. Then, while xbox fans cheered, MS realized they can’t justify the price tag by selling through xbox only, so they went multiplat and in the process began to downplay console gaming.

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CrashMania29d ago

I think it's too late, xbox sales were diving even before ABK, they got even worse since then even long before the full multiplatform push. I'd be surprised if they even went back to timed exclusivity at this point, Helix is basically a PC and is going to be expensive, they already struggle to sell cheaper xbox consoles, it will be low volume and they'll have a very small 'console' base to sell to, which has already been conditioned to just play via gamepass anyway.

S2Killinit28d ago

They will do what they always do, they will promise the world at the beginning of next GEN and then failed to deliver all generation long. But there will always be some gamers who will buy into their promises.

ocelot0728d ago

Absolutely agree, Do people genuinely believe Microsoft are now going to go. Hang on how's about we go back to 2020. Then GP was stagnating, Games sold where awful because of GP. Outsold by Playstation by a landslide.

They have sold 5m of Forza I believe on PS5. Spite it being a old game. I think Starfield is going to sell well in the end. Halo is deffinetly going to sell well as is Fable and Forza Horizon 6.

I think at best (for Xbox fans). Single player titles like Clockwork will have a timed exclusivity. Multiplayer centric games like Forza, E Day will release day and date on all platforms.

Or all games will release on all platforms day and date. But maybe Xbox and Windows Store copies will have exclusive bonuses. Or may even get timed exclusive dlc like Fallout and Elder Scrolls and COD use to do.

I think they will treat Xbox players like the premium customers or at least act the way. But will serve just the Playstation and Switch 2 customers as well.

Neonridr28d ago

I don't see them removing PC from the equation. Considering MS has a heavy enough investment in the PC market, it would be foolish to abandon them. I could see them taking away games from PlayStation or ensuring they are timed exclusives at the very least. Say what you will but if Call of Duty ends up becoming a timed exclusive to Xbox machines, that would hurt PlayStation, don't pretend like those games don't sell millions.

Outside_ofthe_Box28d ago

They would lose out on a lot of CoD sales tho. Doesn't PS make up most of the sales?

Neonridr28d ago

@Outside - possibly, but it might push people to want Xbox hardware so they can play with their buddies day one.

Who knows.

S2Killinit28d ago (Edited 28d ago )

it would but remember doing that can splinter the COD fan base and in the process damage the call of duty brand which is probably the only franchise in that $82 billion purchase that in anyway gets even close to delivering what Microsoft thought they bought. If Microsoft fudges around too much with the COD franchise, you might even see a competitor franchise show up on the scene and that would be a catastrophe after the huge debt that Microsoft put itself into with the ABK purchase.

But Its almost guaranteed that Microsoft will want to do something drastic at the beginning of the next generation as they always do. We will see.

Pyrofire9528d ago

Their lifeline of solely the Xbox consoles is dry. Good-Great games on a 1st party scale can't be made at a loss so willingly - sent to the Xbox to only sell limited copies.
They invested billions scooping up studios and need to start making returns.
Sucks that nearly every company is publicly traded and have to be so shareholder biased but that's how it is.
Their words are strong but it'll take time to see what their actions accomplish. Lowering the cost of Game Pass and taking CoD off of it was a good clear start.

darthv7228d ago

More like, allot of their base just played game pass. So now they need to encourage them to start buying again.

S2Killinit28d ago (Edited 28d ago )

A lot of their base left for greener (bluer?) pastures.

--Onilink--28d ago

What exactly is the long term goal with exclusives though?

Because for the most part, the hardware side of things has never been the most profitable, even sometimes being subsidized for a period before breaking even. And that’s before the hardware component nightmare we currently live in.

The whole point of exclusives was to get more people to buy your console in order to have a bigger install base, which meant even bigger software sales.

But if their ports to PS5 are selling (for the most part it seems) quite well, then other than negating the cut Sony takes there, unless you are REALLY increasing your software sales on your own console, it probably doesn’t make that much of a difference?

Honestly I don’t even understand Sony’s decision to scale back on it for PC unless they weren’t even recouping the port expenses. They released ports when the hardware sales never really dropped, and now that all consoles will undoubtedly take a noticeable drop in sales due to the ridiculous prices, that’s when they decide they don’t want to sell to a larger install base to more easily recoup dev costs… it’s just weird

Outside_ofthe_Box28d ago (Edited 28d ago )

I agree. I mean once they went multiplat, in theory there should be no going back especially when you have games that have sold really well on other platforms.

Microsoft are the ones that announced that they are reevaluating. So I'm just guessing on what their end goal is. Right now Xbox as a hardware is not a must buy for anyone but fans of the brand because their games can be played elsewhere. Going exclusive would solve this, but you lose out on a ton of money instantly which has always been what the company does not want to do so not really sure what their "reevaluating exclusives" means unless they are pulling a Phil Spencer and are just saying what people want to hear and will continue to do what they are currently doing.

darthv7228d ago

Their ports to PS5 are selling because Sony's output has been so dry... the fans are thirsty, and MS is the oasis.

SIdepocket28d ago

Unfortunately, the studios they buy wither under their leadership.

mcstorm28d ago

Microsoft still has a name with Xbox the issue is the casual games are not looking at the console because its not the same console their friends have. Look at that poll on how many users upgraded from xbox 365 to one and then the X. Part of Microsoft's downfall was thinking that the Wii was the market they had to be in when really it was the core market. If you get the core gamers you then get the market to. As I posted a few minuets ago on another post Microsoft putting exclusives on PS this gen could bold well if they hit next gen with all our games are staying exclusive from this new gen. They will then get gamers wanting Halo, Forza Gears but this is also where Microsoft fell over with the xbox one and X in terms of they did not have may quality 1st party games affter they fell into the Gears, Forza and Halo cycle. If they can get some old IPs back to bring back the old core gamers as well as fresh ips to bring in new gamers things could improve next gen. But as I said in my last post its all if buts and maybes at the moment. No one knows if the next home consoles will be to expensive that people move to pc as we are now seeing or look at the stem deck as a cheepier alternitive.

DarXyde28d ago

"Only issue is they've already opened Pandora's box."

That's very optimistic. It's not the only issue, far from it. There is a serious rupture between Microsoft generally and the public caused by their weird Game Pass price fluctuations, taking down physical game space in stores, and being the first to go nuts on hardware price hikes that they themselves played a big part in.

They're also charging beyond a premium for Helix which is just vile at a time when the economy is in shambles.

The company itself is really not doing itself any favors with the approach they're taking Windows. Even France is looking to ditch Windows in favor of Linux.

But the most offensive thing is this AI push. They're doubling, tripling, and quadrupling down on the very technology they're using to replace a considerable proportion of their workforce... And the slap in the face is how they bake copilot into everything when nobody likes it—they couldn't even make Bing stick, so why on earth are they trying so hard? You know it's bad when people would rather use ChatGPT than Copilot which is killing their OS. But aside from their snatching up of farmland to build data centers (and reduce the agriculture capacity of whichever country allows them to build them), they made an AI-generated gamer gurl that loves AI the head of Xbox.

Even if we grant them the full benefit of the doubt, it hardly matters what Xbox wants to do if Nadella says no, and that includes exclusive games. Microsoft's relationship with Xbox is the opposite of Sony's relationship with PlayStation—Microsoft pulls the reins of Xbox, but Sony damn near went under for the PS3.

Tanktopmaster9228d ago (Edited 28d ago )

“If they go back to exclusive games it at least shows that they are finally getting it.”

Great strategy, especially after Forza selling 5 million on PlayStation and sea of thieves selling at least another million (2 million) for example. In March 2026, Xbox consoles sales ratio vs PS was 10:1.

In addition to that, with Gamepass, which unequivocally cuts out chunks of sales (Cannibalizing revenue from 1st month sales especially).

I’m sure going exclusive again after releasing everything on Ps5 is going to work out great for business.

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maximusprime_29d ago

Despite all of that, it's clear that Microsoft's Xbox division is broken beyond repair.

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BeHunted28d ago

PlayStation is currently draining money on flop after flop. It's Sony that needs to re-evaluate their strategy

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CrashMania28d ago (Edited 28d ago )

Wonder how much money was lost on perfect dark, hellbalde 2, 300 million lost revenue
by putting cod on gamepass. The recent Jason schrier news that Xbox has cancelled dozens of projects, spent 70 billion just to see Xbox sales further collapse and gamepass see little growth.

The fact is this has been PlayStation's most profitable generation and they are making loads of money and selling plenty of consoles and games. While MS won't give you any sales figures or profit numbers for Xbox, says it all really.

S2Killinit28d ago

Sony PlayStation has deservedly dominated xbox. Facts

Tanktopmaster9228d ago (Edited 28d ago )

Ok tween.

Xbox series SX got outsold 10:1 last month. lol.

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shadowT29d ago

"Our presence on PC isn’t strong enough."

Fishy Fingers29d ago

It isnt. But I dont think they mean in 'games', rather, footprint.

They own the OS but as far as gaming is concerned, Steam dominate. I imagine the VAST majority of people who use the Xbox app/launcher are PC gamepass subs. No ones buying their 3rd party PC games through Xbox PC.

badz14928d ago

and many gamers prefer SteamOS for gaming over Windows too. If only Valve would be more uncompromising to the anti-cheat makers that locked out non-windows players, more pc gamers would have moved onto SteamOS by now and not looking back to Windows. overall, Win11 is a terrible, bloated, unoptimized OS which is not what many people want

ocelot0728d ago

Agreed and I think that's where they are going to focus on more. I think cheaper games on Windows/Xbox store (MS IP) compared to Steam and Epic and maybe even compared to PSN store as well.

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