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Microsoft Was E3 2017's Biggest Loser

Microsoft needs to stop saying and start doing for the sake of the Xbox brand.

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chrisx3136d ago

Well Sony and Nintendo had much better presentations, so i agree

darthv723136d ago

Ubisoft and Nintendo is more like it.

S2Killinit3135d ago

Sony definitly had a better showing than the smoke and mirror show at MS this year.

naruga3135d ago (Edited 3135d ago )

MS shows was nt bad in relation to what they showed , was bad in relation to the place they have now in sales and the appealing of Xone,. Xone fans were thirsty for games and their saliva for exclusives was drowning the the forums and sites .....if Sony and MS were changing places (MS 1st with its Xone and Sony 2nd with its PS4) ..Sony would have a rampage stampede of titles and the foor would be lava from hot exclusive titles in order to get the pole position again

RpgSama3135d ago (Edited 3135d ago )

You have to be SO detached from what gamers really want when you are the only console maker to show a new and highly awaited console and still be last for the show, these guys stopped caring long ago, they know they have theirs fans so they will just preach to the choir, zero extra effort

Omnislashver363135d ago

naruga, seriously? Most of those exclusives are indie games, not AAA

And even so Sony has more non-AAA games.

If they were in opposite positions I'd be jumping ship to Xbox. But they're not, so glad I jumped ship to PS4.

And I'd recommend that to anyone playing on 360/XB1 now that wants to upgrade- don't buy a XB1X, buy a PS4(Pro).

naruga3135d ago

@Omnislash ...oh man .....*facepalm* we say the same thing ! ..i m bored to explain ....

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yeahright23135d ago

@rpgsama, is it them though? (by them I'm assuming you mean Spencer and co. at xbox) I'm thinking it's more MS big wigs that don't see the profits they're used to coming from xbox so they want to shape xbox into a division that focuses on what has been proven to highest possible profit margin.
I mean making new games is risky, so depends on 3rd party
NA and UK buy out console the most, focus on them.
Halo/Forza/Gears sell well, keep pumping them out.
So I don't think Spencer and his team are as much to blame as people think.
*sigh* I just miss the xbox of 10-15 years ago. KOTOR, jade empire, Shenmue 2, alan wake, lost odyssey... I want to love xbox again, but MS just keeps pushing me away.

AmUnRa3135d ago

O no, darthv72 you as an Xboxfanboy you are deflecting and just cant exept that the PS conference was better than the Microsoft conference.
Everybody looks right trough you....

darthv723135d ago (Edited 3135d ago )

Sorry RA... i personally rank the shows like this. Nintendo, Ubisoft, Microsoft, Sony with EA last.

Sony was better at showing more of the same while MS was better at new stuff but Ubi and Nintendo outdid both.

Seems you cant handle difference of opinion. Everybody looks right through you too.

Skull5213135d ago (Edited 3135d ago )

Besides the reveal of the XBOX and Anthem E3 was pretty underwhelming all around

JackBNimble3135d ago

I think it's obvious Phil Spencer is not a gamer and that's exactly the reason that he is way out of touch with what gamers actually want.
His arrogance in believing a powerful console would solve MS problems only fucked MS for the rest of this gen.
It's to late for new exclusive deals for games this gen, they will have to be for the next gen.

Just to bad MS fucked over all you loyal xbox fanboys. Hey... maybe MS will deliver next gen.

badz1493135d ago

$500 and not true 4K doomed MS this E3. so many post-conference backpedaling, clarifications, excuses and justifications needed to be made

Skull5213135d ago

@JackBNimble

"His arrogance in believing a powerful console would solve MS problems"

That isn't what happened. Xbox fans asked for a powerful console, and he delivered. Good on Microsoft.

JackBNimble3134d ago

Skull
Show me anything before the rumors of Scorpio that anyone was asking for a new more powerful console. Especially a more powerful current gen console.

If Phil was a gamer and had gamers interest in mind, then he never would have canceled any new games.

Dragonscale3134d ago

MS still came last regardless.

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bluefox7553135d ago (Edited 3135d ago )

None of them were that great IMO, Sony certainly didn't do as well as last year, so MS had a huge opportunity to come out swinging...but they didn't. Sony didn't really offer any surprises, but they brought great looking games, with real gameplay footage instead of sizzle reels. Whereas with MS, it seemed like they were trying to be deceptive, using clever wording to pass off games as "exclusive" when they really aren't. By far the biggest reaction they got from the crowd was for the ability to play 15 year old games. I would have thought they would have wanted an upcoming game to steal the show.

RpgSama3135d ago (Edited 3135d ago )

And the crazy thing is that I think Sony held back, Microsoft made the mistake of changing their conference to the day before, allowing Sony to have enough time to strategize, you know Sony didn't show everything when it's show was barely more than 60 minutes, they saved games for TGS, Paris Games Week and PSX.

goldwyncq3135d ago

Microsoft's was way better this time though.

RpgSama3135d ago

In the words of Tenacious D:

"Yeah, that was awesome, compared to bullshit"

ForeverTheGoat3135d ago

Lol "much better"? Nintendo sure but Sony's was just as bad honestly. Really everyone who presented at E3(except ubi and Nintendo) were the biggest losers this year.

XanderZane3135d ago

Correct. Fanboys won't agree with you, but neutral unbiased gamers agree 100%.

ForeverTheGoat3135d ago (Edited 3135d ago )

@XanderZane
It's crazy how much fanboys on this site worship these companies.

Ricegum3135d ago

I don't agree. And I'm not a fanboy.

You opinionated people are worse than the fanboys.

Bobafret3135d ago

If MS had the show to end all shows you would still agree.

XanderZane3135d ago (Edited 3135d ago )

Ubisoft and Nintendo had better conferences. Sony's conference was about the same as Microsoft. Pretty lackluster and not much content. Microsoft actually showed more games then Sony did and had a longer conference. Ubisoft was E3 in the end with Nintendo in 2nd. Both EA and Bethesda were the clear losers at E3 2017. Not sure what shows keengamer.com were watching. They are complete clueless if they think MS' conference was worse then EA or Bethesda's.

@Haurus
M$ did not slaughter Sony. Both conference were bad. Sony's seemed to be more boring from watching the huge crowd of fanboys who weren't clapping at anything they saw on the screen. Microsoft's conference lacked true exclusives and showed some timed exclusive Indies. The Xbox One X hardware was still the most talked about at the E3. Sony lost in that regard, but they probably still had more gamers at their booth playing their games. That's were M$ failed.

RommyReigns3135d ago

EXCLUSIIIIIVE! Oh wait, MS left out the key part of most of them being TIMED exclusives :D Typical subliminal messaging led by flip flop Phil.

LexHazard793135d ago

According to you and the fanboys here yeah. But certain surveys had Xbox ahead of Sony for E3.

Dark_Knightmare23135d ago (Edited 3135d ago )

Yeah just like certain surveys had Sony ahead so whats your point

DiRtY3135d ago

Games announced by Sony: 2.
A remaster and a multiplat.

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FallenAngel19843136d ago

The only thing the Xbox brand is good for me is Rare Replay

Aenea3136d ago

These 'journalists' need to make up their mind!

As I've said before, no one can actually 'win E3', it's all subjective.

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2cents3135d ago (Edited 3135d ago )

Journalists? lol.

Edit: I am agreeing with you as I know what you meant by 'journalists'. Just agreeing.

SegaGamer3135d ago

I hate the whole winning thing, like you say, it's all subjective.

In my opinion, every conference was pretty dull because none of them had anything i really loved.

I think E3 has been pretty average for all companies this year, it's not surprising after though, this is the first average E3 we have had for a while now. I expect next year to be better.

yeahright23135d ago

I don't mind it. If that's what everyone wants to debate after the conferences it makes them bring their A game to the conferences. I guess I agree with you on the premise of it being subjective, it's maybe even a bit immature, but man I love the results of it, getting those big "HOLY COW!" announcements are worth it to me.

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Relientk773136d ago

When you don't have exclusives, you lose. No incentive to buy. Simple as that.

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ThePope3135d ago

Strange yet people STILL are buying....hmm

Discobastrd3135d ago (Edited 3135d ago )

Fools are easily parted with their money I guess

Crazywhitie3135d ago

@Discobastrd As a guy who more likely Paid $499 or $599 for a PS3 at Launch

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MrDead4d ago

I've been surprised by this, the difference between 4 and 4.5 is very noticeable. It's almost completely or has removed that weird dark ghosting that you'd get in foggy games like Silent Hill 2... and Cyberpunk mixed with a high res texture pack is jaw dropping in ultra 4k.

Also if anyone doesn't know I recommend DLSS swapper, it allows you to inject the latest DLSS version into older games.

batiti932d ago

totally useless since NVIDIA app release last year... It does force latest DLSS to global settings if you ask the app to do so.

MrDead2d ago

The NVidia app doesn't let you choose which version of, DLSS Frame Gen and DLSS Ray Reconstruction like DLSS Swapper does.

Goodguy013d ago

Quite amazing. But, this does probably mean devs will depend on ai even more for their supposed optimizations lol.

Neonridr3d ago

no offense to AMD, but this sort of stuff shows that they are always going to be playing catchup. I guess Nintendo can take advantage of some of these features.

badz1492d ago

With the Switch 2? NVidia can easily lock their proprietary tech to their latest GPUs and the Switch 2 will be stuck on 3.5 for 5 more years at least

Neonridr2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

4 and 4.5 are available on 2 and 3 series cards right now. The Switch GPU is based on 3 series architecture, meaning it has access to some of those features. Obviously not as much as the higher end cards, but still some.

TheDreamCorridor2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

"Better than native."

Native 4K in nearly all games nowadays is actually native resolution with forced temporal anti-aliasing.

TAA smears and blurs frames together to soften jagged edges.

Of course DLSS makes games look "better than native" because native alone without any competent AA methods makes games look horrible.

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