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Microsoft Exec justify why Xbox One X is more expensive than PS4 Pro

Microsoft executive Dave McCarthy wanted to defend the increase in price of Xbox One X compared to PS4 Pro ensuring that the console presents a technical section that justifies the price more than enough that comes to stores this year.

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-Foxtrot3267d ago

The executive shouldn't have to justify it the conference should have done that...

Gazondaily3267d ago

Well the facts did.

Well its common sense surely? The One X is a far more powerful, 4k Native, liquid cooling BEAST!

EnigmaSG13267d ago

It's not liquid, it is vapor. Something PC cooling solutions have been doing for well over 10 years.

2pacalypsenow3267d ago

You do know most 3rd party games have been announced to be running at 30 fps? A Beast that runs games at 30fps...

Lennoxb633266d ago

@2pacalypsenow

You do know that consoles haven't prioritized frame rate; but visuals, for the past 4 generations right?

arkard3266d ago (Edited 3266d ago )

You know a lot of games have been confirmed dynamic 4k because they can't get native 4k to actually work on the BEAST right?

@lennox consoles have prioritized exclusives though... Well 2 of the 3 console makers anyway

threefootwang3266d ago

I also heard that they're selling it at cost. Sure not at a loss, but at the very least they're not profiting off of the X alone.

Allsystemgamer3266d ago

If this is what you call a beast then my pc is a god.

4Sh0w3266d ago (Edited 3266d ago )

Simple, better hardware usually costs more.

EnigmaSG1,
Why does it matter about what pc has had for years, it's a first for a home console right?

No justification needed, if you don't understand this simple concept stick to your Atari.

The_Sage3266d ago (Edited 3266d ago )

The beast with no teeth... eh, Septic?

As a funny aside, I have a Septic system at my house. It's where our sewage is collected. I thought you might find that funny.

fenome3266d ago (Edited 3266d ago )

The specs are where the costs lie, yes it's stronger, but it's also up to the developers to actually make it worth it though. Honestly, I don't think Microsoft's​ in house studios are that capable and second or third parties won't waste the time on really pushing it. I'm not even trying to talk crap, because why waste my breath.

It's damn solid on paper, but the only ones that are gonna try to push it are Turn 10 and 343. So you've got 2 studios that are actually gonna try to take full advantage. Third parties could care less, they'll uprez it a little bit more than the Pro but they won't spend time or money trying to maximize it.

End of the day is they have to cater to the base players too and there's way more xbox one players than there are XBX and there's way more on PS4 not counting the upgrade. Player base is the bigger factor this late in the gen for outside studios, money-hatting is harder when you're talking about huge gaps.

timotim3266d ago

@2pac

You know Microsoft leaves it up to devs how they prioritize XOX's power?

There will be way more 60FPS games on X than Pro. We already have news of devs doing exactly this. And native 4k is something that Pro does on only older or indie games/smaller games...however X is doing native on damn near all the games shown at there show...X is a beast my friend, regardless if you want to give it its due.

MagicBeanz3266d ago

Cant wait to see "The Beast" run Crackdown 3 at 60fps......................... .....oh wait.

UltraNova3266d ago (Edited 3266d ago )

@the sage

Is your septic tank full of shit all the time as well?

Septic, do appreciate a good banter when you see one mate ;-)

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OB1Biker3266d ago

'Well the facts did.'
*looks at GOW screen and at Crackdown screen... O_O

No Way3265d ago

@EnigmaSG1 - what's your point? No console is doing it. Therefore, the xbox is more in touch to the standards than that of the PS4 Pro, no?

rainslacker3265d ago

While you've gone full on delusional fan boy in recent years Septic, I've usually always liked you, and once found you one of the most reasonable Xbox fans on this site.

Not so much anymore though, and this penchant of yours to going around calling the Scorpio a Beast at every turn is only exemplifying just how far you've fallen from being one of the few respectable members of the community actually capable of having a real conversation, and make arguments to provide compelling discussion.

Anyhow, what facts are you speaking of?

I personally think the price is fine considering the competition and the tech. But MS does need to get working on justifying the usage of that tech.

Gazondaily3265d ago

@rain

It irks you so much that I quite obviously jokingly refer to the One X as a BEAST. That kind of enthusiasm, feined or not shouldn't bother you so much but it does and that to me exposes the kind of fanboyism that you so desperately try to hide but obviously fail to conceal to anyone. And those so called productive debates, they have always been too far and few between. And YOU, the way you are so condescending when you debate, over the years I realised what little sincerity you had in engaging in a meaningful way with others, whilst 'protecting your own'.

As for the facts: i was referring to the specs. The dominant specifications of the console are hard to deny. You will see the results for yourself.

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freshslicepizza3266d ago

-Foxtrot
"The executive shouldn't have to justify it the conference should have done that..."

You sure have something to say about everything don't you without really understanding the context of it all. They are asked these questions and then they answer them.

Prime example right here, Phil Spencer also talks about the price because he too was asked about why it costs $500.

https://www.youtube.com/wat...

When I see a game like Forza 7 and then another comparable game like GT Sport it becomes quite clear why one system costs more.

jasonpugh3266d ago

GT looks like trash compared to Forza 7. GT used to be my favorite racing sim but it hasn't evolved graphically since PS3.

Aenea3266d ago

"You sure have something to say about everything don't you"

LOL! Pot meet kettle!

BiggerBoss3265d ago

Moldy, Forza 7 doesn't even look better than Driveclub, which came out in 2014.

Tko11113266d ago

I disagree it's not a new generation it's a premium console for those that have the cash. The specs match the premium bill

IGiveHugs2NakedWomen3266d ago

They're trying to justify the price tag because they know that they won't have the first or second party exclusive software to support it.

HardcoreHDGamer3266d ago

"The executive shouldn't have to justify it the conference should have done that..." Well it didn't. It was utter rubbish, basically its a slightly improved PS4 for an extremely expensive price. Considering everything Microsoft shared was games available on PC, then most people already own a PC capable of running games.

Literally the worst E3 by Microsoft ever and I thought last year was bad.

UnHoly_One3266d ago (Edited 3266d ago )

Common sense should justify it. WTF?

It has a UHD Blu Ray player for one. That alone should account for the difference, shouldn't it?

I don't understand how this was even a question.

"Nvidia Exec justifies why a GTX 1080 costs more than a 1050"

Same kind of question, and equally stupid. lol

rainslacker3265d ago

I don't think the price needs justifying. It's a more powerful console, and it's closest competition, the PS4P, is only $100 cheaper. The hardware itself is fine. The price itself is fine for what it offers.

Justifying it's existence otherwise is something they should try harder to do by showing games to give people reasons to actually want to spend the price for it.

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galmi3267d ago

It makes sense why its more expensive. Some say buy a PC instead, what PC will give me 4K gaming at that price?

ElementX3266d ago (Edited 3266d ago )

As a PC gamer, I am well aware of sloppy ports and unoptimized games. We don't even get some titles. Plus I'm not about to buy games on 3 PC services

MegamanXXX3266d ago (Edited 3266d ago )

It depends on the developer. I also game on PC. Only third-party games are mostly unoptimized but not PC exclusives that much

MagicBeanz3266d ago

There was an article the other day on here where they configured one and it was only like forty dollars more, and that's now by the time xbone x gets here prices on tech will have dropped even more and it will be even easier, just look around and do some research, it can be done, xbone x is not the holy grail. Don't be fooled by the term "beast".

Chris123266d ago

@Magicbeanz - every single Xbox article you spread FUD. You and I both know you could cobble together a cheap PC for $500 and it would have a similar spec, but in no way would it run games anywhere near the level the X will. There are many customised parts in the X that make it easy for devs to port and run there games at 4K with decent settings. The PC at that level would chug like crazy. Don't be brainwashed by what you don't understand, you do no favours to PS gamers.

OMGitzThatGuy3266d ago

That PC in that article was severly underpowed and they didnt even run benchmarks. Just put a PC together and said they were comparable.

Ulf3266d ago (Edited 3266d ago )

"Some say buy a PC instead, what PC will give me 4K gaming at that price?"

No such PC exists. You couldn't build one even remotely comparable for less than about $800, and then you still have to have developers use DX12 to get the most out of the PC CPU, and dodge the driver costs. Realisitically, you'd be lucky to be on even-footing with a $900-$1000 PC.

MagicBeanz3265d ago

Pretty clear some of you know nothing about PC.

IGiveHugs2NakedWomen3266d ago (Edited 3266d ago )

You do understand that most of the Xbox One library is available on PC right? That's the main reason people are saying choose PC because if you have a PC with up to date specs you could easily buy a $300-$400 graphics card and game at 4k/30fps. And for those of you saying that it's difficult to install new hardware on a PC, it's as difficult as swapping out a hard drive in a PS4. As long as your PC's original hardware (mainly power supply) is compatible with the card, all you'll need is two screw drivers, your eyes, your hands, and the ability to read.

4Sh0w3266d ago (Edited 3266d ago )

IGiveHugs2NakedWomen
"if you have a PC with up to date specs"

-Thats the 1st problem you are comparing a flat price point of $500 of X1X to pre-built hardware that pc gamers would have already spent at least $1,000-$1,200 on if they have up to date specs and saying just get $300-$400 graphics card= lol that only highlights the VALUE of X1X, costing $100 more for everything ALL BY ITSELF.

Truth is though most pc gamers don't have gaming rigs anywhere close to native 4K capable http://www.mweb.co.za/games... so again X1X costs much less than a pc with similar specs, then when you consider the customization in X1X it's not even close. Most dedicated pc gaming sites all concur that a truly native 4K gaming rig that runs most current gen games efficiently is gonna cost you much more than X1X http://www.pcgamer.com/pc-b...

-So everytime you scream "just get a pc" that's fine but Xbox fans are right to scream "yeah but you got to spend alot more to play those Xbox games with similar performance on pc"....and "I prefer the simplicity of a home console."

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DonkeyWalrus3267d ago

It's a fair price for the power of the console, however they definitely need more AAA exclusives that will really take advantage of the extra power if they want more sales. I prefer to be optimistic so I'm hopeful that the games will come.

Bigpappy3267d ago

If you build it they will come

SilverDemon3266d ago

No, they wont come
You have to BUILD them with first party

sinspirit3266d ago (Edited 3266d ago )

@Bigpappy

When it comes to a consumer platform that is serviced by developers. What needs to be built is a foundation of customers willing to pay.

It's like selling a car that requires proprietary fuel, and the manufacturer doesn't do much to supply it, meaning sales will be lower, meaning less attraction to the car in general to buy more fuel in total, meaning less businesses willing to supply said fuel. They need to stop finding excuses and get into their own program. They should be able to justify the purchase to an average consumer based on true console exclusives.

It really is a fantastic piece of hardware. But, it's unfortunately being wasted.

KingKionic 3266d ago (Edited 3266d ago )

There is no justification needed.

The Ps4 Pro does not compare to the Xbox One X and for a $100 more it is a night an day different.

Listen to the Path of exile dudes talking about them porting there game to Xbox One X.

"Two hours after we got the dev kit it was running 4K 60 FPS"

https://youtu.be/x0NKP7-h_G...

Allsystemgamer3266d ago

And what about an actual demanding game hm? Cuz it seems the majority are 30fps.

KingKionic 3266d ago (Edited 3266d ago )

Well Gears of war 4 multiplayer will be getting a patch rendering at native 4K 60 FPS and improved visuals.

Forza 7 is running at native 4K 60 FPS with dynamic time of day as well as dynamic weather.

Im sure as time continues we will hear more devs talk about native 4K games and easy of use.

DaGR8JIBRALTAR3266d ago

Lol!!!!!!This is the game you use as an example? C'mon bro.

KingKionic 3266d ago

I could show other examples like the Ark dev saying the Xbox One X is 50 percent more powerful or the lists growing on twitter for 4K game patches etc.

But the point was to show you how easy it was for this dev to just load it in there and get it to 4K.

conanlifts3266d ago

Well so far both digital foundry and Ark survival developers have compared it to the gtx 1070. Thats pretty impressive. In terms of fps..it would need to be made from the ground up using the gpu to offset some of the work from the cpu to reach 4k/60. I doubt many multiplatform games will do this. But its certainly a very well priced and powerful console.

Shadyceaser3266d ago (Edited 3266d ago )

For F sake ... Why do Thay need to justify shite.
The thing is not out yet ... Wait till a year or two when developers get there head around it ... Just like every other console ever .

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Playstation Plus Monthly Games for May: EA Sports FC 26, Wuchang: Fallen Feathers, Nine Sols

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FPSRUSSIA24d ago

What's Point in commenting your basicly closing down the site.

LiViNgLeGaCY24d ago

I'm surprised it's still the old site. I thought he said starting today?

Eonjay24d ago

Its like the final episode of the Sapranos. You gonna go to make a comment and when you click add th-

Profchaos24d ago

Timezone thing maybe.... RIP

darthv7224d ago

Insert the Ferris Bueller end scene... "You're still here? It's over.."

LiViNgLeGaCY24d ago

I think the only game here for me is Nine Sols. Was always interested in that game.

TheColbertinator24d ago

Glad I don't buy FIFA games anymore

Rebel_Scum24d ago

Hey now! Thats a great month.

Nacho_Z24d ago

Good month for me, I wanted that particular footy game and thought it might be due. Anyway who cares, shame about the site I'll miss the comment sections. All the best everyone.

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Naughty Dog Was Reportedly Divided On Joel's Controversial Fate During Development Of TLOU Part 2

Naughty Dog was reportedly divided on the controversial fate of Joel in The Last of Us Part 2 during the game's development.

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SimpleDad25d ago

NO, that can't be... No! I can't... Really?/s

Cacabunga25d ago

They for sure chose the worst way to deal with it

-Foxtrot24d ago

Funny considering Bruce left half way through development and now we get told there was an internal conflict with the story direction.

Makes you think…

HectixRose25d ago

I think it was good decision, if he was still alive, he would have been a mascot just like Kratos, drake and many others. These old dudes gotta die for new characters to take center stage with their own storyline. They keep dragging the emotional baggage into many sequels and eventually the story just turns into absolute shit show.

JEECE25d ago

It was ironic because people complained heavily about the story in the Uncharted games not having sufficient stakes because all the key characters always survived, despite the dangerous situations they were always in. Then ND killed a character in a more serious series and everyone lost their minds. Just shows that people don't always really want the thing they say they want.

CantThinkOfAUsername24d ago

I thought the more common complaint about Uncharted franchise was how the main cast are the good guys acting so nonchalantly while killing hundreds in cold blood (aka the dissonance between gameplay and story cutscenes). They just did it again in Part II.

Soy25d ago

Didn't have to kill him. Just have them part ways or Joel can "retire," whatever.

DarXyde25d ago

I don't think he would necessarily need to become a mascot (and besides, technically, I'd say Ellie is... So regardless, someone was going to be).

From a narrative perspective, I do think it has a similar effect to Ricky dying in Boyz N Da Hood: very likeable character, and you're really motivated to see the get back—in this case, it's more intense because it's an interactive experience. Most people hated Abby, but I get what they were after with portraying the cycle of violence and revenge—unfortunately, the game appears to want to take the side of the bad people.

But I will say that if Joel survived, it does become harder to tell an interesting story. What COULD have happened is an exploration into the rift between Joel and Ellie after the trolley dilemma events of the first game. It could have been interesting to see Abby out for revenge at the same time Ellie hated Joel.

Ashunderfire8625d ago

Sorry just had to say this lol! RICKYYYY!

Man Cuba Gooding Jr was miscast in that movie, but that part was cringey it was sad and funny at the same time man.

Ashunderfire8625d ago (Edited 25d ago )

I understand but the way they went about killing Joel, was poorly executed. Even the show of the Last of Us games tried to improved it, but it was just as bad. Well at least Joel got to know the reason why he had to die, before the death happened in the show. That part gave us the full context, but the game just let it happen with no pay off.

Joel death should have been a midway thing through the story, so we at least get to play him a little more with Ellie. Abby didn’t need to be this Hulk looking woman, but more like the show Abby which is a beater idea in my opinion.

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InUrFoxHole25d ago

The only ND game that was so disappointing to me I couldn't finish it.

pwnmaster300025d ago

Honestly as much as I loved the game, they could have just not killed him off.
I get it creator vision and all but killing a character that made you millions is just wrong imo. At least have him go down fighting.

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Final Fantasy X 25th Anniversary Website Launches With New Nomura Artwork and Merchandise

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-Foxtrot25d ago

Look I know VIII has its issues and all that but how on earth can the do big anniversary events with new artwork and merchandise for VII, IX and X yet VIII got sweet f*** all.

They could have given it something during its 25th anniversary yet all it got was a single Happy Anniversary post on their social media.

solideagle25d ago

they should know that we are OG fans of VIII as it sold truckload as well. not as much as VII or X. I personally didn't like IX but X and VI are my personal fav.

Shadow Hearts 2 covenant is another game I love. I hope one day someone can make remake, I would be delighted

Relientk7725d ago

Final Fantasy VIII is great and you are always the first to defend it in the comments