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Future Proofing: Why getting an Xbox One X is better than a PS4 Pro

Lex: "But even with some negative feedback about Microsoft’s lack of exclusives, Project Scorpio, now officially called as Xbox One X, is one impressive piece of hardware to be tagged at a $499 retail price."

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AspiringProGenji3280d ago

You mean until the PS5 and Xbox One Y in a couple years? *slow clap*

Dudebro903280d ago

i wasnt aware they were coming in a couple of years? When did sony announce that?

Gazondaily3280d ago

Lol people looking to the PS5 for power when we have it soon with THE BEAST!

darthv723280d ago

technically both the XBOX and the PS4 Pro are better than the bases models of both. That's where I'm at right now. I can stick with the base models for a bit until I feel the time is right to upgrade.

2pacalypsenow3280d ago

"Lol people looking to the PS5 for power when we have it soon with THE BEAST!"

Crackdown 3 at 30fps.... Crackdown 3

Wallstreet373280d ago

No need to wait for PS5 that conference was a joke and given the graphical fidelity of most those f ugly games shown no wonder some will be 4K native.

Are you guys really that delusional boasting about Scorpio and what was shown? Beast? Lol you want to see a beast? Go play Horizon which is available now and looks light years better than anything shown on the Beast scorpio lol we all said it "PS4 exclusives will still outshine the scorpio games. I won't even put God of War or Days Gone in the mix :)

Crackhead 3 oh what a downgrade and now it's" arena" destructibility lol I'm done. "True vr fidelity" a big no show.

Man I don't know how Phil kept a straight face. Even had a dude performing music biting off Sony orchestra from last year but it was trash.

Sevir3280d ago

Lol! For those that want it go ahead. I've been gaming on the pro and it's remarkable! Including super sampling on is for people who won't upgrade to 4K... and I say what's the point? The Xbox One X is made for 4K so might as well fork over the cash and get a 4K TV.

And this statement is subjective. There was nothing shown at that conference that's screams must buy for XBO X. The most impressive game at that conference Metro Exodus was running on a PC. Lol

It will look fantastic on PS4 Pro and those claiming 4K is now worth it can't tell the difference between checkerboard and native.

We can put both GT Sport and Forza 7 on the comparison of visuals and these same gamers would not be able to distinguish The crispness of GT Sport on a a PS4 Pro and FM7 on an XBO X.

Lol this is really gonna be a fun holiday season. :)

We've got two powerful consoles but only one with real exclusives

DARKKENT3280d ago

Yep a Ferrari without a engine is better than a rolls Royce coupe s/

@septic..you are too transparent,after everyone calling you out on your beast comments after Microsoft dismal E3 your now reusing your embarrassingly immature catchphrase to portray you wasn't disappointed in Microsoft's E3 and are excited...

You fool noone stop embarrassing yourself

Godmars2903280d ago

Actually, if/when Sony introduces their next system, MS will likely have to make a new console as well.

FITgamer3280d ago

I'm trying to figure out how buying a console with no interesting software is future proofing.

81BX3280d ago

Septic
it's unbecoming bro. I can't wait for xb1x day 1 for me but give Sony credit too.

Skillz12153280d ago (Edited 3280d ago )

@septic your name defines what MS press conference was

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arkard3280d ago

The BEAST, running Minecraft in native 4k! Such an amazing feat, Sony should just bow out of the console war!

tyasia03280d ago

XBone Xtinct and the whY seems like a logical progression lol

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freshslicepizza3280d ago (Edited 3280d ago )

Let's all ignore Forza 7 locked at 60fps, dynamic weather and native 4k and instead talk about minecraft

But let's get past that and give credit where it's due, Microsoft working hard to maintain your ability to carry over your games.

Godmars2903280d ago

@moldybread:
"But let's get past that and give credit where it's due, Microsoft working hard to maintain your ability to carry over your games."

Something they either weren't going to do at the beginning of this gen, or charge you for.

Really, despite the insistence by some that MS is an unjustly persecuted company, that the Xbox division only cared about gamers, such a narrative doesn't change what they intended to originally do with the XB1. That what they're doing now is in effort to rebuild a bad rep with all but Xbox fans.

That they're doing things with Forza which they boasted about several entries ago is about as meaningless as that it will play the same on the XB1 as the XB1X with only graphical differences. What should be at issue is that if you're already an XB1 owner MS expects you to shell out $500 to be able to notice that difference in your own home. That you expect someone not into the system as much as you to do so.

freshslicepizza3280d ago (Edited 3280d ago )

@Godmars290
"Something they either weren't going to do at the beginning of this gen, or charge you for."

They never started right away with it on the Xbox 360 either did they? They are investing in making games work, now you want to make this into a negative?

"Really, despite the insistence by some that MS is an unjustly persecuted company, that the Xbox division only cared about gamers, such a narrative doesn't change what they intended to originally do with the XB1. That what they're doing now is in effort to rebuild a bad rep with all but Xbox fans."

So in other words you refuse to reward a company for what they are currently doing and cant get past what they were going to do? Thanks for admitting that you bring history and baggage to the forums.

"That they're doing things with Forza which they boasted about several entries ago is about as meaningless as that it will play the same on the XB1 as the XB1X with only graphical differences. What should be at issue is that if you're already an XB1 owner MS expects you to shell out $500 to be able to notice that difference in your own home."

Huh? The system is powerful, what's your point?

"That you expect someone not into the system as much as you to do so."

Did you have chinese food last night? Sounds like something you read from a fortune cookie.

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XanderZane3280d ago

PS5 probably won't be until 2019 and then X1X2 will make it's presence in 2020. Both Sony and Microsoft are all working on the next gen game consoles.

Automatic793280d ago

@AspiringPro

Why you looking forward to a PS5 when Pro has 6 months out on retail. Do you not have faith in your product.

Sm30003280d ago

Why buy those when ps6 won't be too far off

Zeref3280d ago

yes... and after that the xbox one z

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OB1Biker3280d ago

Saying a xbox console is more future proof than a PS console OR even the other way round is ridiculous. They are simply two different option that come up to preference.
Now if someone hasn't got one an xbox or a PS4 yet then you can say an X OR a PRO are respectively more future proof than their base model. Though even that is not totally clear given its the same gen.

Death3280d ago

I'm pretty sure they are referring to software support when talking about being "future proof". Supporting multiple generations of software and bringing that forward is what they are talking about. Hardware evolves at a scary fast rate. With that said, Scorpio has some very impressive stats and should last longer or at least be relevant longer since it technically shouldn't show it's age or limitations as fast. My guess is we will start hearing about a new console in a few years with a reveal in 4 and launch soon after like we did this gen.

OB1Biker3280d ago

I mean if your talking about software support I'm sure the Sony conference will show off some and more. The generation debate is another matter altogether whether its best to have a true new gen with exclusive games using its potential and also be BC is a bad thing.

Death3280d ago

Not software support as in software made for the hardware, more like hardware that supports software for longer than a console generation. Using the games you paid for today on the console of tomorrow. PC has been doing this for decades while consoles have been pretty hit or miss. One of the reasons I bought my PS3 was because it played my PS2 and PS1 library. I'll admit I didn't use my disc based games as much as I do digital on PC and Xbox though. When you can see a game in your library and just hit play it makes it much easier to do.

OB1Biker3280d ago (Edited 3280d ago )

Your talking about BC. Its irrelevant (regarding the future proof topic) inasmuch as PS5 could well (and probably will) have BC too

IGiveHugs2NakedWomen3280d ago (Edited 3280d ago )

Microsoft is just trying to resell old digital software. These emulators are Microsoft's version of remasters, with no enhancements or upgrades.

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KingKionic 3280d ago

Excellent article. There 100 percent right.

4K games, 4K game dvr and 4k bluray are strengths for future proofing.

kenwonobi3280d ago

Until next generation. Meanwhile if they don't even have the exclusive games you want? Kinda makes the point moot.

Bladesfist3280d ago

I doubt next gen will push past 4k. TV adoption will not keep up with that

tontontam03280d ago (Edited 3280d ago )

dsfdsfsd

IGiveHugs2NakedWomen3280d ago (Edited 3280d ago )

Blu-ray movies are on the decline and hardware is always evolving. So no, that's not future proofing.

Gazondaily3280d ago (Edited 3280d ago )

Well duh. It thoroughly outclasses the PRO on every level technically

stuna13280d ago

But not where it matters!? OK then.

Gazondaily3280d ago

I'm talking technically brah

AcidDvl3280d ago

@Septic

Well, technically you ain't got games brah

morganfell3280d ago

If technology matters so much...get a PC. You know, that other platform that has Xbox games.

GUTZnPAPERCUTZ3280d ago

Will yall chill out, you act like 3rd party games don't make up 75+% of everyone's library!? PS4 won the console race out of the gate simply because it was the best place to play multiplats and the stronger system, stop acting like all of a sudden it does not matter now! smdh...

Bruh3280d ago

None of these deluded fanboys will ever admit that 3rd party titles make up a majority of the gaming libraries on both One and PS4. Both of these machines are optional chill the f*ck out and enjoy what you buy and stop hating on what you don't

morganfell3279d ago

"you act like 3rd party games don't make up 75+% of everyone's library!"

Hate to break it to you but you are quite wrong. They do not make up 75% of my console library. PC, now that is a different matter. But my PS4 and X1 library are both 98% exclusives. It is just that my PS4 library of exclusives dwarfs the few X1 games I own.

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Z5013280d ago

Is ' Technically' an indie game Microsoft showed?

LP-Eleven3280d ago

Nah, just a catch phrase Septic suddenly cares about (a very thing he chose to ignore when it was clear that the X1 was a step behind the PS4 "technically").

OT: I own a more "future proof" device called a PC. However, the PS4 offers me something the X1/X1X will not - titles only available on it. If I want the most technically sound machine, well, as I noted, I already have that.

latinlegend813280d ago

Except where it matters. The games

arkard3280d ago

It's "technically" more expensive. And "technically" has far less true exclusives. The only thing buying an Xbox X future proofs against, is having a great selection of exclusive games

Gazondaily3280d ago

Its technically 50% more powerful 😊

arkard3280d ago

The ps4 has been 50% more powerful than the x1 for years. And until now that has been "negligible" unless ypu compare side by side. You think the differences will be that noticeable at 4k? Keep dreaming

CorndogBurglar3280d ago (Edited 3280d ago )

Honest question time. I mean no disrespect or anything.

Are you just a die hard Xbox fan, or is the power what makes you want this? Either answer is perfectly fine, regardless of what people here say.

I was an Xbox guy until this gen. MS' DRM policies they announced drove me away. But to be honest, I completely understand power being a huge factor, even over exclusives.

I look at it like this. MS and Sony have their own exclusives. But those exclusives only make up a fraction of the games any of us play. Most of the games we play are 3rd party games available on both systems. So logically it makes sense to want a system that is going to display and run the vast majority of games you will play the best.

I get it. If its a power thing, then more power to you! Nothing wrong with that at all.

Personally I hate these mid-generation upgrades. I think its ridiculous to have this much power introduced halfway through a gen. Its crazy to ask people to spend $400 at the beginning of the gen and then another $400-$500 a few years later on an upgraded console. Thats just me though. I'll get either a PS4 P4o or Xbone X when I feel the need to buy a 4K tv.

SilverDemon3280d ago

and so was og xbox compared to ps2
how did that turned out again??
games>>>>>> >>>>>>hardwar e

MorpheusX3280d ago

@Septic

SMH people like you, .. f'n brainless Game Addict, you are a walking contradiction that's licks MS shitty ass crack every opportunity you get...

Why does Sony have such a Console sells lead? AAA exclusives.........MS E3 2017 has come & gone.....Still no AAA exclusives we didn't already know about & $499 console that plays 3rd Party mulitplat Games as Services games better...Smh , yea that gonna make a big difference.

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IGiveHugs2NakedWomen3280d ago

I'm still wondering why anyone would spend $500 to play games that you can "Play Anywhere."

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Nyxus3280d ago

Depends on what you're looking for I guess.

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Final Fantasy X 25th Anniversary Website Launches With New Nomura Artwork and Merchandise

Square Enix launches Final Fantasy X 25th anniversary site, revealing new Nomura art, books, music releases, and merchandise.

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-Foxtrot38d ago

Look I know VIII has its issues and all that but how on earth can the do big anniversary events with new artwork and merchandise for VII, IX and X yet VIII got sweet f*** all.

They could have given it something during its 25th anniversary yet all it got was a single Happy Anniversary post on their social media.

solideagle38d ago

they should know that we are OG fans of VIII as it sold truckload as well. not as much as VII or X. I personally didn't like IX but X and VI are my personal fav.

Shadow Hearts 2 covenant is another game I love. I hope one day someone can make remake, I would be delighted

Relientk7738d ago

Final Fantasy VIII is great and you are always the first to defend it in the comments

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Relientk7742d ago

I remember playing this back in the day on PS2. What a sick game!

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We started with a simple idea. Games should bring people together through shared experiences. That led to the first Xbox in 2001, Xbox Live in 2002, and new ways to connect, from friends lists and achievements to parties and play across devices. Today, Xbox reaches over 500 million players around the world, with some of the most important franchises in entertainment.

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Outside_ofthe_Box43d ago (Edited 43d ago )

If they go back to exclusive games it at least shows that they are finally getting it. They would be turning down immediate money for something that will potentially workout in the long term.

Only issue is they've already opened Pandora's box. A lot of their base has moved to PC or jumped to PS. So will be a long road to get back on track.

We have been saying this from day one exclusives are a must if you are going to be selling hardware look at Nintendo and Sony before Jim Ryan. That's the proven formula. You had some that were deluded and blinded by loyalty accepting that multiplat was the future and that MS was merely getting ahead of where the industry was headed, but at least they can finally see the light and agree with what everyone has been saying for a decade+

pwnmaster300043d ago

True, blame it on the rabid fanboys. MS can do no wrong and spinner this multiplatform move. While the actual fans moved on.

I feel like with the new Xbox coming they are hoping to bring back those old fans and then if it goes well. Bring back exclusives.

If the new console is performing like series x and one. Naw they staying multiplatform.

darthv7243d ago

Actual fans dont move on... they can add to their hobby while waiting for the next new release. If you believe what you typed then I guess PS fans moved on too.... you know, since its been a Sahara for 1st party games this gen.

S2Killinit43d ago

The fans didn’t tell them to go multilat. MS was forced to after the 82 billion they spent to destroy gaming. Then, while xbox fans cheered, MS realized they can’t justify the price tag by selling through xbox only, so they went multiplat and in the process began to downplay console gaming.

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CrashMania43d ago

I think it's too late, xbox sales were diving even before ABK, they got even worse since then even long before the full multiplatform push. I'd be surprised if they even went back to timed exclusivity at this point, Helix is basically a PC and is going to be expensive, they already struggle to sell cheaper xbox consoles, it will be low volume and they'll have a very small 'console' base to sell to, which has already been conditioned to just play via gamepass anyway.

S2Killinit43d ago

They will do what they always do, they will promise the world at the beginning of next GEN and then failed to deliver all generation long. But there will always be some gamers who will buy into their promises.

ocelot0742d ago

Absolutely agree, Do people genuinely believe Microsoft are now going to go. Hang on how's about we go back to 2020. Then GP was stagnating, Games sold where awful because of GP. Outsold by Playstation by a landslide.

They have sold 5m of Forza I believe on PS5. Spite it being a old game. I think Starfield is going to sell well in the end. Halo is deffinetly going to sell well as is Fable and Forza Horizon 6.

I think at best (for Xbox fans). Single player titles like Clockwork will have a timed exclusivity. Multiplayer centric games like Forza, E Day will release day and date on all platforms.

Or all games will release on all platforms day and date. But maybe Xbox and Windows Store copies will have exclusive bonuses. Or may even get timed exclusive dlc like Fallout and Elder Scrolls and COD use to do.

I think they will treat Xbox players like the premium customers or at least act the way. But will serve just the Playstation and Switch 2 customers as well.

Neonridr43d ago

I don't see them removing PC from the equation. Considering MS has a heavy enough investment in the PC market, it would be foolish to abandon them. I could see them taking away games from PlayStation or ensuring they are timed exclusives at the very least. Say what you will but if Call of Duty ends up becoming a timed exclusive to Xbox machines, that would hurt PlayStation, don't pretend like those games don't sell millions.

Outside_ofthe_Box43d ago

They would lose out on a lot of CoD sales tho. Doesn't PS make up most of the sales?

Neonridr43d ago

@Outside - possibly, but it might push people to want Xbox hardware so they can play with their buddies day one.

Who knows.

S2Killinit43d ago (Edited 43d ago )

it would but remember doing that can splinter the COD fan base and in the process damage the call of duty brand which is probably the only franchise in that $82 billion purchase that in anyway gets even close to delivering what Microsoft thought they bought. If Microsoft fudges around too much with the COD franchise, you might even see a competitor franchise show up on the scene and that would be a catastrophe after the huge debt that Microsoft put itself into with the ABK purchase.

But Its almost guaranteed that Microsoft will want to do something drastic at the beginning of the next generation as they always do. We will see.

Pyrofire9543d ago

Their lifeline of solely the Xbox consoles is dry. Good-Great games on a 1st party scale can't be made at a loss so willingly - sent to the Xbox to only sell limited copies.
They invested billions scooping up studios and need to start making returns.
Sucks that nearly every company is publicly traded and have to be so shareholder biased but that's how it is.
Their words are strong but it'll take time to see what their actions accomplish. Lowering the cost of Game Pass and taking CoD off of it was a good clear start.

darthv7243d ago

More like, allot of their base just played game pass. So now they need to encourage them to start buying again.

S2Killinit43d ago (Edited 43d ago )

A lot of their base left for greener (bluer?) pastures.

--Onilink--43d ago

What exactly is the long term goal with exclusives though?

Because for the most part, the hardware side of things has never been the most profitable, even sometimes being subsidized for a period before breaking even. And that’s before the hardware component nightmare we currently live in.

The whole point of exclusives was to get more people to buy your console in order to have a bigger install base, which meant even bigger software sales.

But if their ports to PS5 are selling (for the most part it seems) quite well, then other than negating the cut Sony takes there, unless you are REALLY increasing your software sales on your own console, it probably doesn’t make that much of a difference?

Honestly I don’t even understand Sony’s decision to scale back on it for PC unless they weren’t even recouping the port expenses. They released ports when the hardware sales never really dropped, and now that all consoles will undoubtedly take a noticeable drop in sales due to the ridiculous prices, that’s when they decide they don’t want to sell to a larger install base to more easily recoup dev costs… it’s just weird

Outside_ofthe_Box43d ago (Edited 43d ago )

I agree. I mean once they went multiplat, in theory there should be no going back especially when you have games that have sold really well on other platforms.

Microsoft are the ones that announced that they are reevaluating. So I'm just guessing on what their end goal is. Right now Xbox as a hardware is not a must buy for anyone but fans of the brand because their games can be played elsewhere. Going exclusive would solve this, but you lose out on a ton of money instantly which has always been what the company does not want to do so not really sure what their "reevaluating exclusives" means unless they are pulling a Phil Spencer and are just saying what people want to hear and will continue to do what they are currently doing.

darthv7243d ago

Their ports to PS5 are selling because Sony's output has been so dry... the fans are thirsty, and MS is the oasis.

SIdepocket43d ago

Unfortunately, the studios they buy wither under their leadership.

mcstorm43d ago

Microsoft still has a name with Xbox the issue is the casual games are not looking at the console because its not the same console their friends have. Look at that poll on how many users upgraded from xbox 365 to one and then the X. Part of Microsoft's downfall was thinking that the Wii was the market they had to be in when really it was the core market. If you get the core gamers you then get the market to. As I posted a few minuets ago on another post Microsoft putting exclusives on PS this gen could bold well if they hit next gen with all our games are staying exclusive from this new gen. They will then get gamers wanting Halo, Forza Gears but this is also where Microsoft fell over with the xbox one and X in terms of they did not have may quality 1st party games affter they fell into the Gears, Forza and Halo cycle. If they can get some old IPs back to bring back the old core gamers as well as fresh ips to bring in new gamers things could improve next gen. But as I said in my last post its all if buts and maybes at the moment. No one knows if the next home consoles will be to expensive that people move to pc as we are now seeing or look at the stem deck as a cheepier alternitive.

DarXyde43d ago

"Only issue is they've already opened Pandora's box."

That's very optimistic. It's not the only issue, far from it. There is a serious rupture between Microsoft generally and the public caused by their weird Game Pass price fluctuations, taking down physical game space in stores, and being the first to go nuts on hardware price hikes that they themselves played a big part in.

They're also charging beyond a premium for Helix which is just vile at a time when the economy is in shambles.

The company itself is really not doing itself any favors with the approach they're taking Windows. Even France is looking to ditch Windows in favor of Linux.

But the most offensive thing is this AI push. They're doubling, tripling, and quadrupling down on the very technology they're using to replace a considerable proportion of their workforce... And the slap in the face is how they bake copilot into everything when nobody likes it—they couldn't even make Bing stick, so why on earth are they trying so hard? You know it's bad when people would rather use ChatGPT than Copilot which is killing their OS. But aside from their snatching up of farmland to build data centers (and reduce the agriculture capacity of whichever country allows them to build them), they made an AI-generated gamer gurl that loves AI the head of Xbox.

Even if we grant them the full benefit of the doubt, it hardly matters what Xbox wants to do if Nadella says no, and that includes exclusive games. Microsoft's relationship with Xbox is the opposite of Sony's relationship with PlayStation—Microsoft pulls the reins of Xbox, but Sony damn near went under for the PS3.

Tanktopmaster9242d ago (Edited 42d ago )

“If they go back to exclusive games it at least shows that they are finally getting it.”

Great strategy, especially after Forza selling 5 million on PlayStation and sea of thieves selling at least another million (2 million) for example. In March 2026, Xbox consoles sales ratio vs PS was 10:1.

In addition to that, with Gamepass, which unequivocally cuts out chunks of sales (Cannibalizing revenue from 1st month sales especially).

I’m sure going exclusive again after releasing everything on Ps5 is going to work out great for business.

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maximusprime_43d ago

Despite all of that, it's clear that Microsoft's Xbox division is broken beyond repair.

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BeHunted43d ago

PlayStation is currently draining money on flop after flop. It's Sony that needs to re-evaluate their strategy

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CrashMania43d ago (Edited 43d ago )

Wonder how much money was lost on perfect dark, hellbalde 2, 300 million lost revenue
by putting cod on gamepass. The recent Jason schrier news that Xbox has cancelled dozens of projects, spent 70 billion just to see Xbox sales further collapse and gamepass see little growth.

The fact is this has been PlayStation's most profitable generation and they are making loads of money and selling plenty of consoles and games. While MS won't give you any sales figures or profit numbers for Xbox, says it all really.

S2Killinit43d ago

Sony PlayStation has deservedly dominated xbox. Facts

Tanktopmaster9242d ago (Edited 42d ago )

Ok tween.

Xbox series SX got outsold 10:1 last month. lol.

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shadowT43d ago

"Our presence on PC isn’t strong enough."

Fishy Fingers43d ago

It isnt. But I dont think they mean in 'games', rather, footprint.

They own the OS but as far as gaming is concerned, Steam dominate. I imagine the VAST majority of people who use the Xbox app/launcher are PC gamepass subs. No ones buying their 3rd party PC games through Xbox PC.

badz14943d ago

and many gamers prefer SteamOS for gaming over Windows too. If only Valve would be more uncompromising to the anti-cheat makers that locked out non-windows players, more pc gamers would have moved onto SteamOS by now and not looking back to Windows. overall, Win11 is a terrible, bloated, unoptimized OS which is not what many people want

ocelot0742d ago

Agreed and I think that's where they are going to focus on more. I think cheaper games on Windows/Xbox store (MS IP) compared to Steam and Epic and maybe even compared to PSN store as well.

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