This is getting ridiculous. These sites must either want hits or not to piss off the PS4 crowd because it's larger. Just steady framerates at 1080p with great looking visual effects would be worth the price. I don't game at 4k on PC but just the effects look so much better than current consoles

When this console launch along side MS temporary trade up program of 150-$200 offered on xbox one hardware, nearly all owners will be trading in their consoles... This console will explode out the gate. As far as games go, there will be more than enough...

It's no wonder gaming journalism is under such a pressure and loosing readers and its influence.

Does not has Spider Man... So, no thanks.

Why the heck is there so much negativity towards xbox??!? This is insanity!!! Just about every damn article on this site is attacking xbox!

Lol...better 4k? Of course they explained that. Most of all the games shown at Microsoft's show was running at native ULTRA 4K settings, while most of the games shown at Sony's show was running CHECKERBOARD 4K. That's reason enough for the price difference, but then Microsoft threw in a UHD 4K Blu Ray drive which Pro doesn't even have at all...no more explanation needed.

They also thought the original Xbox one was worth $100 more.

$100 more u get 4K Textures

If it needs explaining to you then you're not the target audience of the Pro/XBX.

Its the extra hardware you get? Heck, pro mostly doesn't even do 4K, it even has problems to hit that on indies and remakes.

Plus Scorpio has a UHD Player in it, is smaller and got more ports on the back. No brainer

This is extremely easy to justify if they can only drop the 60 FPS tag on most of their games. Fallout on the PS4 Pro @ 30 FPS? On the Xbox X its 60 FPS. This is a performance benchmark that just screams premium and you don't need a 4K TV to experience it's power.

Without 60 FPS though, I'm left wondering what this thing can do, and if it can't do 60 FPS then I have to wonder if it's worth it.

Seems like they did to me. Better frame rates, more resolution, uhd bluray, Dolby atmos, backward compatibility better multiplatform performance, better performance for even nonpatched games.

Exclusives are a part of the equation but not the whole equation, and in other parts of that equation, the one x destroys. I'll play PS4 exclusives on my PS4 pro but I'm pretty confident I'll end up playing everything else including AAA multiplatform on the one x - and I'll still get forza 7, ori 2, ashen and more in addition to all that.

Again so many xbox fans still don't get it.

1. X1X will come out 4 years after the gen has started
2. 499 price tag which is the cost of a new (next gen console). Think about this for a minute.
3. When the PS4 has already won the console war
4. 2-3 years before the next gen starts
5. Most gamers left to buy current gen consoles are causal gamers that are looking at price and game selection
6. Many people still don't have good 4k TVs and most will not be able to tell the difference between pro and X1X

The only real consumers that the X1X is really aiming for are hardcore xbox fans that want to upgrade and such I agree with the author.

£100/$100 for 20/30% better performance plus an UHD drive doesn't sound all that bad to me! However, as a PS4 Pro owner, there is little incentive to get it right now for me, I will wait and see if developers make use of the extra power.

If you were waiting on the One X before you made your "4K" choice then this seems the best option (assuming you already have a standard PS4 for their exclusives!)

This system is the same price the x1 was 4 years ago and 100 bucks cheaper than ps3 was. 499 is not much for what you're getting. And let's not forget the PS Pro doesn't even have a 4k blu ray player.

MICROSOFT CANT EXPLAIN CERTAIN PEOPLE OF HIGH INTELLIGENCE WHY 6 IS GREATER THAN 4.

400°

Microsoft can’t explain why its 4K is $100 better than Sony’s

They also can't explain why for 1.5 Generations they had a 1st/2nd Party focus, & then they went Kinect focus, & this Gen they almost completely abandoned the 1st/2nd party focus in favor of Games as Service & Multiplayer, yet they've only sold 26-27million consoles compared to Sony over 60million consoles sold.

Microsoft is out touch with what there fanbase wants, Sony, although not perfect is more in tune with Gamer expectations, 60million + says so.

26million for Xbox platform VS 60million + for PS4 Platform, & its CLEAR why this is so.................Console Exclusives, not indies, not games as services, AAA 1st party exclusives, that's what Sony has done, what they always do.

If it's true 4k, it's worth it. But when developers like Ubisoft start saying "dynamic" for the Xbox X it's a problem. They should mandate that every game supports true 4K resolution. None of that dynamic stuff the PS4 pro is already doing for cheaper. The Xbox box is promoting "true" 4k. Yet assassins creed is dynamic. It's a problem.

It did though, its an upgraded Xbox One, meaning the utility in its value lies in how much better its showing off those titles. Shadow of War, Origins, Anthem are high fidelity titles that are all native 4K. A much higher picture quality than the base Xbox One and an improvement over the Pro as well. Don't think a single one of those games are native on the Pro

2018 will be a great year! Ans pretty sure we've already seen various article's, devs and even df explain it's worth to ps4pro!

MS get cant the guy at E3 who talked about vapor cooling and other stuff on stage to come and say why its 100$?...........

"true 4k" = "the power of the cloud"

just another MS PR stunt.

I am almost certain, having seen plenty of 'enhanced for XB1X' statements on the MS presentation, that once the games are looked at by Digital Foundry we will see those 'enhancements' are in fact upscaled 4K and not native 4K. Then, MS will have a problem on their hands because they will be found out for misleading the consumer yet again.

Over the years I have learned not to believe a single word out of their mouths, I have never known a company mislead the consumer quite as often as MS do. The Gamespot interview with Spencer yesterday where he said he would listen to feedback about the labeling of those videos in his conference was laughable.....YOU PHIL SPENCER, OPENED THE PRESSER WITH THE CLAIM YOU WERE ANNOUNCING "22 EXCLUSIVES TONIGHT". You knew exactly what you were doing with your word games, obfuscation is all you know.

Anyone who spends money on a Scorpio or Pspro are just fools at this point.

Its not the 4k that makes it more its the terflops and RAM and other bits inside that bulks the price. For me it just doesnt have the exclusives to justify paying 500

Worth it? yes, but how do you convey that to the general mass audience? with 4k? 4K isnt that big yet to be a real selling point, half or even more still have 1080p tv's. "bu bu but it has super sampling", yes try to tell wtf that means to the mass. Its a hard sell! If ive had xbox and x0 instead of playstations, I wouldve already preordered mine.

Its not just the 4k that makes it $100 more? How's that not blindingly obvious?

Well here is one reason why. Ark, runs a 1080p 30FPS on PRO, and Ark Runs at 1080p 60 FPS on XB1X.

What a stupid article. Let me make mine.

Sony can't explain why its Pro is $150 better than the Xbox S.

See. fangirls.

native 4k. Were you not watching the conference they repeated it several times.

Bundled with 4k tv at store....problem solved.

Its even worse then That. This machine should be launched last year and not late 2017. This will get one year without the shadow of the ps5 after That its over. Sony will launch the ps5 first and alone in the market

Ultra HD Blu Ray players sell for roughly $200 on the market. That's the justification, to me.

If they had the exclusive software to back up that power, i'd pay the $100 extra. The casual gamers might not though

lets see,
Faster proccessor
12gb gddr
4k blueray
326 gb/per s
A specialized cooler that keeps it nice and quiet.
Each one fine tuned with its motherboard.
Able to enhance all games it plays, even on a 1080p screen and play original xbox games.
Able to play in true 4k and not dumbed down.

It does have games and takes advantage of them, unlike the Pro that doesn't enhance older games unless the developer decides to do something with it. Most haven't, something many Pro owners have complained about. Scorpio will enhance the full Xbox library and play them all.

As for exclusives for the whole ecosystem PlayStation has the better 1st party studio exclusives, but for all else, developers that decide to use the extra horsepower, Xbox1x will look better and play faster in 4k. Plus if you invested into 4k T.V.then you can play 4k Bluerays. Anyone just saying you can just stream it will be cheating themselves and their expensive T.V. investment. Disks have the advantage over streaming with a much higher bit rate, no internet drops or sluggish framerates, You get to see the movie in its full glory.

As for future exclusives I suspect we'll see more from MS on that front and I mean new games. But it is a Major weakness right now. Is the price what a lot of people were hoping for??? No, but to those that want the best overall game system that does things the competition can't the extra $100 dollars should be worth it.

EDIT: I forgot cross play another nice add on.

Like fine wine it'll get better over time.

It's easy. Do you want 4k or not? 4k tv is more than 1080p tv. 4k uhd blu ray is more than 1080p hd blu ray. So 4k console is more than hd console.

Tell me again how the multiplatform strategy was supposed to fix everything. Look at your results and compare them to Nintendo, which keeps thriving with exclusives. Your loyal fans are gone. And let’s not forget the pile of IPs you purchased only to let them rot.

The worst thing is this is down from last years numbers/expectations which was down from the previous years numbers/expectations. You think about how long “down” has been a consistent part of the communication and you realize those subscriptions are what’s holding that boat together. The price cut of gamespass is still a price raise in a string of price raises. They are trying to use players to offset the missing revenue. Now call of duty is out of gamespass, which is literally WHY they bought the company. To draw people to the subscription. They realized they missed a boatload of money and that wasn’t sustainable. Now you pay for it like you would have if they never bought the company… so why buy the company? Mind you those billions still need to be paid back. Yeah it gives you a chance to say we make the biggest FPS… but the internal conversations must be brutal at high level on topics that really matter. Like revenue. Profitability. And ROI for the shopping spree.

Is this like the 10th quarter in a row they're down 33% on hardware how is that even mathematically possible. You would think their mediocrity would Plateau