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Microsoft's Exclusivity Problem Is On Full Display At E3, Even As Xbox One X Impresses

Forbes: "Microsoft finally unwrapped Project Scorpio today, revealing the console as the “Xbox One X,” which is a bit of a mouthful, but I suppose there could have been worse names."

PhoenixUp3269d ago (Edited 3269d ago )

Microsoft still showed some worthwhile exclusives at this conference

Although it's very significant that they still haven't released a new flagship IP this gen that could stand alongside Halo, Forza, & Gears of War

SpaceRanger3269d ago

Which ones? Aside from what was already known?

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LastCenturyRob3269d ago

"Playstation domination across all nations" Is the average IQ of a Sony user lower than the number on the console? I mean, wow, its just sooooo many PS4 players sound plain stupid.

DARK_WOLF3269d ago

Yeah im so sick of seeing sea of thieves and crackdown.

I want new games ffs.

Xbox one x is great and as a platform for gaming xbox is the best imo but there is no denying the lack of exclusive games.

Sony is laying the smackdown this gen with quality exclusives.

Xbox is not, but atleast its got third party games to play.

Playstation is a must for its exclusives. Play everything else on xbox 👍

GrubsterBeater3269d ago (Edited 3269d ago )

@LastCenturyRob

"I mean, wow, its just sooooo many PS4 players sound plain stupid."

Oh, the irony of this statement....

How about you learn proper grammar and proper spelling before calling other people stupid..

Also, on this subject, usually the "stupid people" with the "low IQs" are the XBox fans, who typically still haven't hit puberty or use "I f%#$&@ your Mom" insults. The most telling evidence of XBox fans being the ones lacking any modicum of intellect is that they CHOOSE TO EVEN BUY an XBox. An intelligent person would realize what a stupid decision it is to waste their money on a paper weight studded with electronics.

This MS E3 show was awful. They had so little to show that they used games that were multiplat or timed exclusives for the most part... Sad, really... I feel sorry for anyone with an XBox...

4Sh0w3269d ago (Edited 3269d ago )

Yep, I'm a huge Xbox fan but today I got to agree with alot ps fans, well sort of. I thought it was good as far as quantity but quality= 1st party AAA games was pitiful. Sure I'll play Sea of Thieves, Date of Decay2, a few of those indies but its completely inexcusable to not show off gameplay of Crackdown 3 at E3 after all this time and hype. Games com...pfft, wtf? It's also inexcusable not to drop at least 1 Anthem caliber console exclusive. I mean I saw some fun looking stuff like that last man standing multi game(cant remember the name), etc but where was the big new IP??? I'm not blindly loyal, I understand things take time but seriously it's TIME to deliver what I and millions of core Xbox fans bought an X1 for.

I mean damm I still think Ryse is better than most of what they showed (I really like that game though). I'm not trying to be negative and I went in with reasonable expectations, no way is asking for a big new AAA IP in the vein of what made Xbox, Xbox asking too much. Xbox One X hardware is great imo but other than Anthem(a multipat game) Microsoft themselves didn't give us a whole lot of incentive to buy it so Im not gonna sit here and pretend everything is OK, I hope they get slammed, thats how you improve, I expect more!

rainslacker3269d ago

Spencer said that he pays attention to what people say on social media about MS, I believe in reference to OGXbox BC.

but what this conference showed me is that while Phil may pay attention, he fails to comprehend what people are actually saying, or MS itself doesn't really care about addressing it.

MS had a good showing of games. But the criticism that people have had about Xbox is that it doesn't have enough games. That was about games that MS itself publishes or produces. MS in this conference was trying to meet the criticism of "no games", while showing almost nothing that they are producing or publishing.

This conference, IMO, failed miserably to actually do what MS needed to do. They need to quell the criticism of "no games", and give a reason to want a Scorpio. No games didn't address the underlaying criticism of MS produced/published games. They misdirected by throwing up "exclusive" for all these timed exclusives that MS didn't produce or publish. They failed to sell the Scorpio because after touting up 4K before every game, they then show things that look like last gen games.....or worse. Some interesting concepts in there sure, but is that what gets people excited for a new most powerful console. The variety of games was there, but that variety is going to be on other consoles, and won't require a $500 expenditure. May not get "the best experience", but I'm sure people can live with the $250 or $400 version experience that they likely already have. I'm perfectly content with getting the few true console exclusives that interest me on my stock X1. The rest they showed I'll get on my more than capable PS4P which I already own. Most looked like they'd play fine on my modestly equipped PC that's 5 years old now.

tontontam03269d ago

"Playstation is a must for its exclusives. Play everything else on PC👍, and don't buy xbox"

Fixed

butchertroll3269d ago

Phil Spencer 2 months ago : "We're upping our investment with first party and committed to innovate"

No, YOU DON'T

https://www.theguardian.com...

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Overload3269d ago (Edited 3269d ago )

They showed a bunch of timed exclusive indie games. The conference was pretty weak overall.

Deep-throat3269d ago (Edited 3269d ago )

Sony does that every year. They show a lot of indie games. Everyone fill their shows with indies and remasters.

BiggerBoss3269d ago

@deepthroat

Except Sony ALSO shows big exclusive games like God of War and Horizon

MagicBeanz3269d ago

The defenitly needed to show a reason for people to spend $500 on xbone x, and they defenitly failed to do just that.

Overload3269d ago (Edited 3269d ago )

@Deep Throat

Sony does this on the PS Blog and their YouTube channel.

Wallstreet373269d ago (Edited 3269d ago )

Difference between showing indies you are relying on and hardly anything else Worth mentioning besides Ori lol and showing indies but still relying on awesome AAA exclusives like Sony does. The butt hurt and defense force responses from Some ppl are insane. God of War alone smashes anything Microsoft has shown out the park, heck Horizon that already came out does that and it's playable right now and isn't an indie. It's like whatever power difference Scorpio has over PS4 pro doesn't matter when you still see PS4 exclusives looking and playing better than anything on Scorpio. The third party games like metro looked better than stuff like crackdown, that's sad. Crackdown also got the biggest downgrade I've ever seen smfh.

But sure let's keep defending :)

Shadyceaser3269d ago

Only through your eyes 👀 mine saw something different

UCForce3269d ago (Edited 3269d ago )

@Deep-Thoart Well, Sony know how to balance between AAA and Indies.

letsa_go3269d ago

So are we going to call it the Indie Box X...with slightly more power? I gotta get all those old xbox fanboy talking points in

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Christopher3269d ago

Okay, even I'm asking you to show this one.

The big "exclusives" were Forza 7, Sea of Thieves, and Crackdown 3. We know Forza 7 and it's been highlighted as the sign of what type of 4k we'll have. Then there's Sea of Thieves, which really showed nothing new and Crackdown 3, which still hasn't shown any live SP campaign or any new MP for... two years now?

Otherwise, those big titles were all third-party titles that had no exclusive mentions of content or time at all. The rest were nice, but they were PC games also coming to XBO.

They failed to deliver a single 'big' new exclusive IP and that is an issue when they are claiming to work to turn that around and after this year of issues.

Overload3269d ago (Edited 3269d ago )

Agreed. I even think Crackdown, SOT and SOD had pretty weak showings, I expected more from SOD.

darthv723269d ago

I did not watch the whole thing but i only found out about og xb from here. As great as that is... it really is a smh display (or lack of) in regards to true new games for xbox fans.

I was hoping for even new entries from og xb games like bloodwake, quantum redshift, brute force... games that people have been asking for for years now.

Huge missed opportunity but im keen on og xb games (hope with live support) and the $500 price is not out of reasonable range.

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Christopher3269d ago (Edited 3269d ago )

@darthv72: OG Xbox games was my favorite moment of the whole event.

@below: It definitely couldn't hurt. Would love to see a new Tenchu and Jade Empire, personally.

darthv723269d ago (Edited 3269d ago )

Maybe (and this is a big maybe) the reception of og xb bc could lead to new games (like i mentioned) based on og ip..?

Then again, if the positive reception of 360 bc has not lead to new games based on 360 ip then im doubtful it would be different for og.

The 10th Rider3269d ago (Edited 3269d ago )

They really did fail to show a single 'big' exclusive new IP, which is an issue.

But on the flipside almost every big exclusive game they showed, Forza 7, Sea of Theives, Crackdown 3, and State of Decay 2, are all supposedly releasing before next E3 (Cuphead too, not sure if that's console exclusive, though?). The only one that we don't know about is Ori and the Will of the Wisps.

While I do think it's a huge issue that they didn't show anything new in terms of exclusives other than Ori, it is a step in the right direction in terms of showing more games in general, and avoiding showing games years in advance only to have them sit in development for years and years.

EDIT: I'm with Overload that Crackdown, SOT, and SOD 2 had pretty weak showings. State of Decay they barely showed us anything. Sea of Thieves looked exactly like everything we've already seen. Crackdown looked worse than gameplay footage we've already seen. Anthem and Metro had jaw-dropping showings, but are multiplatform and not even timed exclusives. Ori looked absolutely gorgeous.

starchild3269d ago

@Christopher

"Would love to see a new Tenchu and Jade Empire, personally."

Good taste. Getting new games in those franchises would be a dream come true for me.

JasonKCK3269d ago

So, we get to ignore cosole exclusives now? They seemed so important before. Also, there were no VR filler games.

Christopher3269d ago

***So, we get to ignore cosole exclusives now? They seemed so important before.***

So, we get to ignore first party exclusives now? They seemed so important before.

*** Also, there were no VR filler games.***

Major Nelson said they haven't finalized their VR plans yet. So, still working on it, but it'll likely come. Don't you worry!

JasonKCK3269d ago (Edited 3269d ago )

It's just odd how 3rd party console exclusives are praised elsewhere, but dismissed here. Are you going to deny that doesn't happen?

First party exclusives were there even if we already knew about them.

Christopher3269d ago (Edited 3269d ago )

***It's just odd how 3rd party console exclusives are praised elsewhere, but dismissed here. Are you going to deny that? ***

Third party exclusives, I think, would have been praised if they weren't the usual Indie games (though, they do look good, they just don't have the selling power). I think the issue is they had nothing "strong" that was exclusive that we didn't already know or doesn't truly sell the power of XBO X or the goal of focusing on, as Phil has said, increasing the power of their exclusive line up.

I would have praised them for at least getting some exclusive content that we haven't heard of, but we didn't even hear that.

But, at least the third parties will be supporting the new console and its power.

JasonKCK3269d ago

A few were indies, Battlegrounds looks great, and I agree with OG Xbox BC being a big surprise.

I guess they could have announced some far off projects.

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modelgod3269d ago

Yeah I agree. I'm interested in seen how Black Desert pans out. That was the only game I was interested in other Sea if Thieves and Cuphead. I was unimpressed!

MegamanXXX3269d ago (Edited 3269d ago )

"Microsoft still showed some worthwhile exclusives at this conference"

I guess I'm blind

starchild3269d ago

The Last Night, Ori and the Will of the Wisps, and Cuphead all looked great to me.

But they did lack any big AAA game announcements.

MegamanXXX3269d ago

@Starchild

I expected big AAA games announcements like like a new Mechassault or Fable

Tussin1873269d ago

@Starchild

Was the Last Night console or launch exclusive. Can't remember sense they were switching back and forth. That game looked pretty sweet. I would be bummed if it was console exclusive.

trooper_3269d ago

Like....?

BC, again is just a luxury. The games they showed are either timed or multiplat.

_-EDMIX-_3269d ago

I don't know what you're talking about

What exclusives? They basically just showed off a series of multi-platform games even the games that they were making can be found on other platforms ie PC.

darthv723269d ago

The whole PC argument applies to those who tend to game on PC.

I dont so it does not apply to me. If it is on xbox and not ps or switch... it is exclusive in my book.

Same can be said about ps games not on xb or switch but also on PC. They are still exclusive to me.

strifeblade3269d ago

No this was the most underwhelming conference from msoft ever. Im a huge fan, i own a high end 4k hdr tv as well so scorpio looks great for third party and multiplats no doubt. backwards compatibility is not bad, kinda meh. big exclusives were crackdown, forza, sea of thieves, and ori, state of decay 2, lucky tails fox. Crackdown looks alright- good co op- been a while they been showing that- hype is down for me. Forza is probably going to be the best racer as Sony still doesn't have an answer even if they release gt- dont think it will compete. ori will be amazing. sea of thieves is really meh. state of decay 2 is alright, fun co op. Besides forza none of these exclusives are stellar powerhouse games- no new ip. DISSAPOINTING GAMES WISE. I think sony will steal the show, that new spiderman game god of war and last of us sequel, probably gran turismo, who knows what else. This smokes the xbox line up- microsoft has no answer to those games save for GT.

Biggest positive is the console itself and will out compete sony multiplat wise but exclusives wise, sony has it this year and i dont have to watch their e3 to know that. THE 500$ price is expected, and i think msoft just gave sony a chance to destroy them this year games wise.

Takwin3269d ago

There are no exclusives. So they showed zero of them. Not sure what you mean.

FinalFantasyFanatic3269d ago

I'm actually impressed they had so many games to show off, I really want Anthem. I expected nothing more than a reveal of the new xbox, was somewhat surprised.

Tussin1873269d ago

Yes and most are multiplatform which is what everyone is talking about lol.

Nu3269d ago (Edited 3269d ago )

Xbox is like the smart nerd without his bitc***

It's funny how Nintendo lacks power but has games and on the other hand Microsofts all about power and little games.

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SpaceRanger3269d ago

I couldn't agree more with this article.

Anyone get annoyed by the whole "Exclusive" audio feature for just about every game that is multi platform?

And what was up with not showing total level destruction with Crackdown? They spend almost 15min with Sea of Thieves (almost fell asleep) and chose to only show a trailer for Crackdown.

KingKionic 3269d ago

The crackdown footage shown was from the campaign.

"For those asking.... Destruction is still part of Crackdown 3 Multiplayer. Today you saw campaign, for the 1st time ever. More on MP soon!!"

https://mobile.twitter.com/...

SpaceRanger3269d ago

Ahh, thanks for the clarification!

So I'm guessing it's not as much a part of single player campaign??

AspiringProGenji3269d ago

I would hope so. The showing was pretry stale. I'm not sure why the destructions wouldn't carry over to the single player, but let's believe him for now

KingKionic 3269d ago

Crackdown destruction has always been for multiplayer Just so everyone knows.

The multiplayer will be PvP in a city fully destructible.

But it's unusual that it wasn't the first thing shown.

Overload3269d ago

Something is obviously different or they would have shown it.

Nodoze3269d ago (Edited 3269d ago )

HAHA so there is no destruction in the single player game. WOW.

Also when they trotted out Dragon Ball Z as a major exclusive.....OUCH.

morganfell3269d ago

Has anyone considered the Crackdown MP will not launch along side the SP this fall?

Christopher3269d ago (Edited 3269d ago )

They should have had an on-stage live demo of Crackdown SP. Anything in a trailer like that isn't what I look for to sell me on a game. I know nothing of the story, nothing of the character(s), and all I know is that Terry Crews is still an extremely likable and marketable person who I hope doesn't age or die.

***Has anyone considered the Crackdown MP will not launch along side the SP this fall?***

During the YouTube stream interview, they said SP, Co-Op, and MP would all release on November 7. They'll highlight MP later on specifically and they called it 'competitive MP'.

morganfell3269d ago (Edited 3269d ago )

Christopher,

Then that being the case it makes no sense why they did not show it. It is well inside the beta window which means something isn't working right. If it isn't ready in a playable form of some sort with 5 months before the game goes to reproduction and only 4 months and change before it goes to QA for gold cert there is definitely something wrong.

dumahim3269d ago

Which is kind of scary since Crackdown actually comes out this year and SOT is next year.

4Sh0w3269d ago (Edited 3269d ago )

Yeah I follow Crackdown 3 news like a bloodhound so I already knew the destruction was multi only(online using Azure), that was exactly what I have been waiting to see= a proper multi gameplay demo with full on destruction. Why in the hell would they wait..errr not ready, OK but how f-ing long does it take, nah I'm not buying they cant muster a 5min gameplay showcase of one area at GD E3!

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KingKionic 3269d ago

I don't know but I agree the crackdown footage showing campaign first unusual.

Maybe because we never saw it before but caused confusion.

Good thing it's still in there.

Nodoze3269d ago

Crackdown looked AWFUL. For the amount of time it has been in development it should super polished, and it isn't. The explosions, the textures, the animations, and the absolute lack of destruction on display. Meh. A 6.5 tops based on what was shown.

SoT looked....it looked like it was still a concept. Forza looked good, but it always does.

Anthem absolutely stole the show and it was not even exclusive.

KingKionic 3269d ago

It wasnt a exclusive but that fidelity was off of xbox one x so thats a positive. It was definitely using tons of advance effects and 4k assets for sure.

meatnormous3269d ago

And crackdown is 30 fps on scorpio.

modelgod3269d ago

Don't for get about the porsche. Lol!

Takwin3269d ago

Anthem showed me Bioware is Dead. Mass Effect Andromeda was awful, and Crackdown looks like it is from 2012.

letsa_go3269d ago

Pretty much what I have been saying all along. Crackdown 2 was junk...I am not anticipating this one to be any better

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XanderZane3269d ago

I think they did the "Exclusive" audio because some maybe negative fanboys kept complaining about the XBox not having any exclusives and they wanted to show that they do. Most of the exclusives were console exclusive, which means the games won't be on the Switch or PS4. Still Phil said there would be PC exclusives and XB1S/XB1X exclusives. I didn't see any PC exclusives at all. Maybe they will show some at GamesCom or XBox Experience.

Dark_Knightmare23269d ago

No most were timed exclusives not console

butchertroll3269d ago (Edited 3269d ago )

Majority of games showed are timed exclusives

ziggurcat3269d ago

"I think they did the "Exclusive" audio because some maybe negative fanboys kept complaining about the XBox not having any exclusives and they wanted to show that they do. Most of the exclusives were console exclusive..."

No, most of those games weren't console exclusive... "launch exclusive" = timed exclusive which != exclusive.

Takwin3269d ago

My wife told me to stop screaming. It was driving me insane. THERE ARE NO MORE XBOX EXCLUSIVES!!!

generic-user-name3269d ago

It was definitely a shady tactic for the announcer to keep saying 'exclusive' like that.

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KingKionic 3269d ago (Edited 3269d ago )

Yeah let's throw the elephant from the conference out there.

It was definitely geared around showing third party support and why Xbox one x is a beast on the third party titles.

The backwards compatibility Xbox one x stuff was great and not even expected

Almost every game shown was native 4K at the show when they were announced with the logo in the bottom.

freshslicepizza3269d ago

They delivered on the hardware but not on software.

morganfell3269d ago

They actually delivered on the hardware with the One S. If they had pumped all the Scorpio money into games for the X1 look where they would have been.

Why o why3269d ago

Infinite cash cheat means they should be able to do both.

modelgod3269d ago

Was I the only one who thought for a split second that Black Desert was actually Lost Odyssey 2? I was about to explode! !

CaptainObvious8783269d ago (Edited 3269d ago )

Wow....

If moldy, MOLDY can say MS didn't deliver on the software at the E3 conference, well... that's really saying something. How many other die hard ms fans around the world are saying the same thing? MS could be in real trouble, even more than they are now.

This is the second time in history I've agreed with Moldy. I'll be on the look out for asteroids today.

4Sh0w3269d ago (Edited 3269d ago )

Why o Why thats exacty what I was gonna say= they can afford to do both.

I've been to Redmond Washington, seen Microsoft Campus and Xbox firsthand, lots of folks employed there, I've studied the company, they are rolling in cash Xbox is small potatoes to some of the investments they have made that never saw the light of day.
PLUS the Xbox engineers who design hardware are obviously sesperate from game designers and developers. Microsoft easily has the deep pockets to fund whatever they want, simply put right now they are just misguided. I genuinely think Phil is just trying to please too many masters.

morganfell3269d ago (Edited 3269d ago )

They cannot afford to do both. People act like MS can just throw money where they want. Why not buy total Battlefield and COD exclusivity? Because they have a budget, that's why.

Being able to graph out on a bar napkin how it is technically possible is not the same as being able to do it.

conanlifts3269d ago (Edited 3269d ago )

I have to agree. In addition i thought the conference as a whole was awful for current xbox owners. Literally nothing releasing from ms until September. No new 1st party games, no new 1st party exclusives and sea of thieves delayed to 2018. Plus most exclusives had the term " xbox console launch exclusive". So this term implies they could potentially all be timed exclusives anyway. Personally i hope ms gets plenty of disappointed fans expressing themselves. They need to get the message that to succeed they need 1st party games. They are not even falling back on halo or gears.

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Relientk773269d ago

I thought they showed off some great games, but almost all of them are multiplatform

Elit3Nick3269d ago

There certainly was some good showings for Forza, AC:O and Anthem, but why no extended gameplay for SoD2 and Crackdown 3? This was honestly a 6/10 conference for me, and one of MS's weakest since before the XB1 reveal.

modelgod3269d ago

The best showing was Anthem and it's not even exclusive. Very weak conference!

CaptainObvious8783269d ago

I'm hearing a few people saying it was one of their worst (discounting the 2013 DRM nightmare of course). This is really troubling for MS as the position they're in now and the large amount of online chatter about their very weak games lineup, they needed one of their best showings ever and it seems they greatly under delivered.

Takwin3269d ago

correction: **ALL** of them are multiplatform

AspiringProGenji3269d ago (Edited 3269d ago )

That's true. And now they are using some confusing "console Launch exclusive" tag to make them sound like exclusives when they are timed. Very lose use of the word exclusive lol

Lots of indie games and not new 1st party ips... And some games we already knew with two of them being 2018 releases. Well at least these ones were alright. Sea of Thieves looks very good

EatCrow3269d ago

Console launch. I think is actually related to already being on pc. Don't know about the timed thing. But yea it could be.

Tussin1873269d ago

But they said launch exclusive and not console. They had Xbox and windows exclusive and launch exclusive. They threw everything together and that's why people are confused. It did it's job I guess but now people are going to point out how they tried to bit a little slick with the term exclusive.

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Look I know VIII has its issues and all that but how on earth can the do big anniversary events with new artwork and merchandise for VII, IX and X yet VIII got sweet f*** all.

They could have given it something during its 25th anniversary yet all it got was a single Happy Anniversary post on their social media.

solideagle26d ago

they should know that we are OG fans of VIII as it sold truckload as well. not as much as VII or X. I personally didn't like IX but X and VI are my personal fav.

Shadow Hearts 2 covenant is another game I love. I hope one day someone can make remake, I would be delighted

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Final Fantasy VIII is great and you are always the first to defend it in the comments

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I remember playing this back in the day on PS2. What a sick game!

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Outside_ofthe_Box31d ago (Edited 31d ago )

If they go back to exclusive games it at least shows that they are finally getting it. They would be turning down immediate money for something that will potentially workout in the long term.

Only issue is they've already opened Pandora's box. A lot of their base has moved to PC or jumped to PS. So will be a long road to get back on track.

We have been saying this from day one exclusives are a must if you are going to be selling hardware look at Nintendo and Sony before Jim Ryan. That's the proven formula. You had some that were deluded and blinded by loyalty accepting that multiplat was the future and that MS was merely getting ahead of where the industry was headed, but at least they can finally see the light and agree with what everyone has been saying for a decade+

pwnmaster300031d ago

True, blame it on the rabid fanboys. MS can do no wrong and spinner this multiplatform move. While the actual fans moved on.

I feel like with the new Xbox coming they are hoping to bring back those old fans and then if it goes well. Bring back exclusives.

If the new console is performing like series x and one. Naw they staying multiplatform.

darthv7231d ago

Actual fans dont move on... they can add to their hobby while waiting for the next new release. If you believe what you typed then I guess PS fans moved on too.... you know, since its been a Sahara for 1st party games this gen.

S2Killinit31d ago

The fans didn’t tell them to go multilat. MS was forced to after the 82 billion they spent to destroy gaming. Then, while xbox fans cheered, MS realized they can’t justify the price tag by selling through xbox only, so they went multiplat and in the process began to downplay console gaming.

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CrashMania31d ago

I think it's too late, xbox sales were diving even before ABK, they got even worse since then even long before the full multiplatform push. I'd be surprised if they even went back to timed exclusivity at this point, Helix is basically a PC and is going to be expensive, they already struggle to sell cheaper xbox consoles, it will be low volume and they'll have a very small 'console' base to sell to, which has already been conditioned to just play via gamepass anyway.

S2Killinit31d ago

They will do what they always do, they will promise the world at the beginning of next GEN and then failed to deliver all generation long. But there will always be some gamers who will buy into their promises.

ocelot0731d ago

Absolutely agree, Do people genuinely believe Microsoft are now going to go. Hang on how's about we go back to 2020. Then GP was stagnating, Games sold where awful because of GP. Outsold by Playstation by a landslide.

They have sold 5m of Forza I believe on PS5. Spite it being a old game. I think Starfield is going to sell well in the end. Halo is deffinetly going to sell well as is Fable and Forza Horizon 6.

I think at best (for Xbox fans). Single player titles like Clockwork will have a timed exclusivity. Multiplayer centric games like Forza, E Day will release day and date on all platforms.

Or all games will release on all platforms day and date. But maybe Xbox and Windows Store copies will have exclusive bonuses. Or may even get timed exclusive dlc like Fallout and Elder Scrolls and COD use to do.

I think they will treat Xbox players like the premium customers or at least act the way. But will serve just the Playstation and Switch 2 customers as well.

Neonridr31d ago

I don't see them removing PC from the equation. Considering MS has a heavy enough investment in the PC market, it would be foolish to abandon them. I could see them taking away games from PlayStation or ensuring they are timed exclusives at the very least. Say what you will but if Call of Duty ends up becoming a timed exclusive to Xbox machines, that would hurt PlayStation, don't pretend like those games don't sell millions.

Outside_ofthe_Box31d ago

They would lose out on a lot of CoD sales tho. Doesn't PS make up most of the sales?

Neonridr31d ago

@Outside - possibly, but it might push people to want Xbox hardware so they can play with their buddies day one.

Who knows.

S2Killinit31d ago (Edited 31d ago )

it would but remember doing that can splinter the COD fan base and in the process damage the call of duty brand which is probably the only franchise in that $82 billion purchase that in anyway gets even close to delivering what Microsoft thought they bought. If Microsoft fudges around too much with the COD franchise, you might even see a competitor franchise show up on the scene and that would be a catastrophe after the huge debt that Microsoft put itself into with the ABK purchase.

But Its almost guaranteed that Microsoft will want to do something drastic at the beginning of the next generation as they always do. We will see.

Pyrofire9531d ago

Their lifeline of solely the Xbox consoles is dry. Good-Great games on a 1st party scale can't be made at a loss so willingly - sent to the Xbox to only sell limited copies.
They invested billions scooping up studios and need to start making returns.
Sucks that nearly every company is publicly traded and have to be so shareholder biased but that's how it is.
Their words are strong but it'll take time to see what their actions accomplish. Lowering the cost of Game Pass and taking CoD off of it was a good clear start.

darthv7231d ago

More like, allot of their base just played game pass. So now they need to encourage them to start buying again.

S2Killinit31d ago (Edited 31d ago )

A lot of their base left for greener (bluer?) pastures.

--Onilink--31d ago

What exactly is the long term goal with exclusives though?

Because for the most part, the hardware side of things has never been the most profitable, even sometimes being subsidized for a period before breaking even. And that’s before the hardware component nightmare we currently live in.

The whole point of exclusives was to get more people to buy your console in order to have a bigger install base, which meant even bigger software sales.

But if their ports to PS5 are selling (for the most part it seems) quite well, then other than negating the cut Sony takes there, unless you are REALLY increasing your software sales on your own console, it probably doesn’t make that much of a difference?

Honestly I don’t even understand Sony’s decision to scale back on it for PC unless they weren’t even recouping the port expenses. They released ports when the hardware sales never really dropped, and now that all consoles will undoubtedly take a noticeable drop in sales due to the ridiculous prices, that’s when they decide they don’t want to sell to a larger install base to more easily recoup dev costs… it’s just weird

Outside_ofthe_Box31d ago (Edited 31d ago )

I agree. I mean once they went multiplat, in theory there should be no going back especially when you have games that have sold really well on other platforms.

Microsoft are the ones that announced that they are reevaluating. So I'm just guessing on what their end goal is. Right now Xbox as a hardware is not a must buy for anyone but fans of the brand because their games can be played elsewhere. Going exclusive would solve this, but you lose out on a ton of money instantly which has always been what the company does not want to do so not really sure what their "reevaluating exclusives" means unless they are pulling a Phil Spencer and are just saying what people want to hear and will continue to do what they are currently doing.

darthv7231d ago

Their ports to PS5 are selling because Sony's output has been so dry... the fans are thirsty, and MS is the oasis.

SIdepocket31d ago

Unfortunately, the studios they buy wither under their leadership.

mcstorm31d ago

Microsoft still has a name with Xbox the issue is the casual games are not looking at the console because its not the same console their friends have. Look at that poll on how many users upgraded from xbox 365 to one and then the X. Part of Microsoft's downfall was thinking that the Wii was the market they had to be in when really it was the core market. If you get the core gamers you then get the market to. As I posted a few minuets ago on another post Microsoft putting exclusives on PS this gen could bold well if they hit next gen with all our games are staying exclusive from this new gen. They will then get gamers wanting Halo, Forza Gears but this is also where Microsoft fell over with the xbox one and X in terms of they did not have may quality 1st party games affter they fell into the Gears, Forza and Halo cycle. If they can get some old IPs back to bring back the old core gamers as well as fresh ips to bring in new gamers things could improve next gen. But as I said in my last post its all if buts and maybes at the moment. No one knows if the next home consoles will be to expensive that people move to pc as we are now seeing or look at the stem deck as a cheepier alternitive.

DarXyde31d ago

"Only issue is they've already opened Pandora's box."

That's very optimistic. It's not the only issue, far from it. There is a serious rupture between Microsoft generally and the public caused by their weird Game Pass price fluctuations, taking down physical game space in stores, and being the first to go nuts on hardware price hikes that they themselves played a big part in.

They're also charging beyond a premium for Helix which is just vile at a time when the economy is in shambles.

The company itself is really not doing itself any favors with the approach they're taking Windows. Even France is looking to ditch Windows in favor of Linux.

But the most offensive thing is this AI push. They're doubling, tripling, and quadrupling down on the very technology they're using to replace a considerable proportion of their workforce... And the slap in the face is how they bake copilot into everything when nobody likes it—they couldn't even make Bing stick, so why on earth are they trying so hard? You know it's bad when people would rather use ChatGPT than Copilot which is killing their OS. But aside from their snatching up of farmland to build data centers (and reduce the agriculture capacity of whichever country allows them to build them), they made an AI-generated gamer gurl that loves AI the head of Xbox.

Even if we grant them the full benefit of the doubt, it hardly matters what Xbox wants to do if Nadella says no, and that includes exclusive games. Microsoft's relationship with Xbox is the opposite of Sony's relationship with PlayStation—Microsoft pulls the reins of Xbox, but Sony damn near went under for the PS3.

Tanktopmaster9231d ago (Edited 31d ago )

“If they go back to exclusive games it at least shows that they are finally getting it.”

Great strategy, especially after Forza selling 5 million on PlayStation and sea of thieves selling at least another million (2 million) for example. In March 2026, Xbox consoles sales ratio vs PS was 10:1.

In addition to that, with Gamepass, which unequivocally cuts out chunks of sales (Cannibalizing revenue from 1st month sales especially).

I’m sure going exclusive again after releasing everything on Ps5 is going to work out great for business.

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maximusprime_31d ago

Despite all of that, it's clear that Microsoft's Xbox division is broken beyond repair.

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BeHunted31d ago

PlayStation is currently draining money on flop after flop. It's Sony that needs to re-evaluate their strategy

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CrashMania31d ago (Edited 31d ago )

Wonder how much money was lost on perfect dark, hellbalde 2, 300 million lost revenue
by putting cod on gamepass. The recent Jason schrier news that Xbox has cancelled dozens of projects, spent 70 billion just to see Xbox sales further collapse and gamepass see little growth.

The fact is this has been PlayStation's most profitable generation and they are making loads of money and selling plenty of consoles and games. While MS won't give you any sales figures or profit numbers for Xbox, says it all really.

S2Killinit31d ago

Sony PlayStation has deservedly dominated xbox. Facts

Tanktopmaster9231d ago (Edited 31d ago )

Ok tween.

Xbox series SX got outsold 10:1 last month. lol.

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shadowT31d ago

"Our presence on PC isn’t strong enough."

Fishy Fingers31d ago

It isnt. But I dont think they mean in 'games', rather, footprint.

They own the OS but as far as gaming is concerned, Steam dominate. I imagine the VAST majority of people who use the Xbox app/launcher are PC gamepass subs. No ones buying their 3rd party PC games through Xbox PC.

badz14931d ago

and many gamers prefer SteamOS for gaming over Windows too. If only Valve would be more uncompromising to the anti-cheat makers that locked out non-windows players, more pc gamers would have moved onto SteamOS by now and not looking back to Windows. overall, Win11 is a terrible, bloated, unoptimized OS which is not what many people want

ocelot0731d ago

Agreed and I think that's where they are going to focus on more. I think cheaper games on Windows/Xbox store (MS IP) compared to Steam and Epic and maybe even compared to PSN store as well.

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