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Sony's PlayStation 4 is crushing Nintendo and Microsoft — now execs explain the master plan

Sony's Shawn Layden and Jim Ryan explain the master plan for the PlayStation 4, which has now sold 60 million consoles.

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DeadSilence3147d ago

Nintendo actually is doing pretty great.

naruga3147d ago (Edited 3147d ago )

Sony respected consumers and they showed respect back. Not only with their juggernaught PS4 but even back then with their unfairly misjudged PS3, they were hitting the market with exclusive quality and quantity ..

only PSVR was a mistake imo ....could spend all that budget (including the R&D) to develop new 1st party IP and ensure third party exclusives or even buy whole IPs that were born and being classical trademarks of Playstation (Crash , Resident Evil,FF VII total exclusivity ect ect)

MoonConquistador3147d ago

Have you even tried PSVR?

Nobody who's ever tried it has came back and wished the R&D money was spent on a new Spyro exclusive.

It has its flaws and issues, but it's another example of Sony pushing gaming forward and a damn fine piece of kit.

GtR35olution3147d ago (Edited 3147d ago )

"ultimately, it's all about the games, and Ryan thinks Sony has the edge. The "vast majority" of Xbox One games are also available for PlayStation 4, notes Ryan — and PlayStation 4-exclusive blockbusters like "Horizon Zero Dawn" and the forthcoming "Uncharted: The Lost Legacy" tip the scales. "

Seems like something fell on the floor, Sony dropped some knowledge . More Video games sells more video game consoles and Sony PlayStation has a lot more video games to sell with a lot more announced more than the competition. The playstation will continue to sell a lot more consoles because they have a lot more games on the horizon.

OB1Biker3147d ago (Edited 3147d ago )

It's the same BS as people were going about indie games. The fact they exist doesn't mean less traditional AAA games. More choice doesn't mean less games. It's the opposite.
VR games or VR option are in addition to traditional games. They don't replace them. Just look at say Insomiac games. They simply get more and more done. Not the opposite.

LamerTamer3147d ago

PSVR is crap. It is too low res and the lenses are blurry at the edges. All it is is a headache inducer. If the image quality on a TV or camera was the same quality of PSVR it would be returned as defective.

AnubisG3147d ago (Edited 3147d ago )

@MoonConquistador,

I tried PSVR on multiple occasions and it made me violently sick each time. So why did I try it multiple times? Because I wanted to see if it was only a particular game or the whole experience. But I got sick no matter what game I played. No, it's not really notion sickness, I'm 100% fine on boats and roller coasters. However with the PSVR I got major eyepain and nausea and a general feeling of being sick. Headaces too. So, after that experience, I do wish they would have spent that R&D on new IPs or more remakes like the Crash Bandicoot N Sane Trilogy. VR is a fad, just like 3D was. Stuff like this will be mainstream when you will not have to wear anything in order to experience the stuff. I think the future will be hollograms not VR. At least not in it's current form. If you enjoy it, awesome! Enjoy it. I certainly don't and as I said I tried it many times. Also, I'm not alone. I got two friends with similar experiences so for you to say nobody who tried PSVR said that sony should have spent the R&D money on remakes instead is just false.

wheresmymonkey3147d ago

Sony didn't respect consumers at all. They just played a bloody good PR game and responded well to MS and Nintendos complete mishandling of their own respective consoles.

Sony should have got roasted alive when they revealed the PS4. They were making gamers pay for online and it was the first console they released to not have straight out the box BC.

The only reason they didn't was because MS had completely cocked up the Xbone reveal by focusing on TV and other pointless services and decided to chuck in some rather onerous DRM which would tie discs to one console. Something which if you look at how the PS4 actually runs games, could have been in the offing for the system and then hasitly scrapped after MS got crucified over it,

Basically they pulled the same trick that they did with the PS1. Use theri position as the last person doing their press conference to completely undermine the competition and come out smelling of roses.

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AnubisG3147d ago

@Moon,

I'm sorry to hurt your feelings guy.😄

What was it that I said that you think is wrong?

Plus, with motion sickness, you don't get eye pain. At least not as far as I know. But I guess Dr. Moon knows better and also tells me what I experienced is not what I think it was. Along with people who disagreed.

As I said before, if you enjoy VR, great! Go for it and enjoy it. No one is stopping you. You think it's the future of gaming? I don't. We will see which way gaming will go but the same arguments have been made for 3D during the PS3 era.

Either you will be right and gaming will head to a VR future or I will be right and it wont. But again, I believe that some sort of advanced hollogram technology will be in the future of gaming. We will see.

Pull my head out of my ass huh? 😄 You are such a nice guy.

AnubisG3147d ago

@MoonConquistador,

Oh and I'm not the first. Maybe you just haven't heard about these issues or just ignored them;

http://n4g.com/news/1965114...

Plus, google PSVR eye strain. You will be amazed by the information you did not know about. So sorry to dissapoint you, but I'm not the first. Sad face?😔

donthate3147d ago (Edited 3147d ago )

lmao! Sony respected consumers?

PS3 price? Get a second job?
No cross play?
Almost no mods?
EA Access is bad value for consumers, but hey, here is PS Now!

Now we are getting comments like this:

"Ryan says it's too early to really gauge the Nintendo Switch's success, but that "there's room in the market." When it comes to Microsoft, however, Ryan is a little more skeptical."

"Still, when it comes to the burgeoning market for super-powerful game consoles, Ryan says Sony is "building a strong position" with its early sales. So while Sony welcomes the competition and looks forward to hearing more about Project Scorpio at E3 with the rest of the world, it's not exactly keeping the PlayStation team up at night.

"We won't be frightened of what they do," says Ryan."

Sony is more concerned about Nintendo, than MS. Switch doesn't really compete with Playstation 4. The hubris is catching up to Sony again. Sony can't seem to shake that bad habit!

Nodoze3147d ago

PSVR was one of the few technologies that made me go WOW. I was totally not interested until a buddy brought his over. After trying it out, I bought it the next day. The library is growing. Highly recommended.

Arkham VR is mind blowing.

Fearmonkey3147d ago

PSVR is amazing, certainly not a mistake, its one o the best reasons to own a PS4.

jasonpugh3147d ago

VR altogether is short lived. It won't be mainstream for a very long time. Those who invested early I'm sorry but you probably also had The Nintendo power glove.

ShadowWolf7123147d ago

...they can't buy back IPs that the owners don't want to sell. Nor all they gonna shell out tens of MILLIONS just to make a remake of an old game exclusive.

Exvalos3146d ago

Don't bandwagon off the haters who can't afford vr, it's amazing tech and farpoint has now shown what's possible for future fps games. Psvr is the future of gaming

curtis923146d ago

@moon, you mean like PS Move, PS Camera and 3DTVs? it's another attempt to turn novelty into something sustainable. Hell even Kinect was successful for a bit... doesn't matter though. The shallow nature of it will always lose out in the end.

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drunkenspy0073147d ago

They are, but as soon as the Zelda experience everyone is enjoying runs out, what then?

Eldyraen3147d ago

Mk8D just released and Arms/Splatoon 2 come out this summer. (One in but a couple weeks time). That's a great start for the first 6 months of any console (if those are good even better as first 6m to a year is usually light right after launch).

Plus how more switch owners only own the switch? My Switch is a compliment to others and is a damn fine one at that. I know I'm not alone in that and the "what else are you going to play" affects every new platform as not everyone is interested in every new game anyways. Zelda is by far one of the best launch games ever made and is a bigger reason to buy a new console day 1 than any game on PS4/One at launch. I bought both of those too, with Killzone, Knack, Ryse, etc... enjoyed them but none are on par with Zelda--appetizers basically where as Zelda is a main course. I played Killzone online a lot solely as what else was there? CoD: Ghosts? Don't make me laugh. Killzone was fun but campy half of the time with turrets and skills spamming as teammates played everything like TDM (and poorly).

I just finished playing a Horizon, still haven't beat zelda and I have over 200H in it (at hyrule castle now, may go back and hunt for last 8 shrines first). Koroks are repetitive but i enjoy looking for them (found 650+ on my own so far). Only did Divine Beasts last week (and wish there were more dungeons like them now).

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DashMad3146d ago

eh Pokemon and animal crosing for WW and MH for Japan market ??

modelgod3146d ago

Don't argue with these fools. I'm xbox through and through but Sony has killer software, and Nintendo is a gimmick. I agree with you, once Zelda dies down, it's a wrap! !

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jznrpg3147d ago

They are doing good at launch selling consoles but lack games at the moment. Still a lot of questions with how successful Switch will be on the long run

Eldyraen3147d ago

True, but every new platform lacks games. Most have a bigger variety to choose from but rarely any are what you'd call quality on par with Zelda. I played it more than any 2-3 launch games on either One or PS4 (exception being Killzone online maybe, as online at launch didn't have many options so it filled most time just because what else was there?).

_-EDMIX-_3147d ago

@eld-Sony and Microsoft lacked Assassin's Creed, Call of Duty Battlefield, Need for Speed etc at launch?

You sure about that? Only Nintendo Platforms are releasing with such a lack of games because they don't have the same third-party support

so please stop trying to put Nintendo in some category as if every platform deals with such a situation because last time I remember the majority of the games that launched with PlayStation and Xbox this generation are also receiving sequels that are not coming to the switch at the moment

so no.

You could hold Zelda to a pedestal ,that's nice, nothing is wrong with that I think it's a great game but at the end of the day no single one title is going to move any system for five years...

The two systems that you're saying didn't have any options around launch are also the two systems that have intellectual properties that move 20 to 15 million units almost every single year so please put the bed that stupidity.

It's literally laughable to hear somebody desperately try to pretend that a series of intellectual properties are not that big a deal nevermind that they essentially determine the victory of a platform by their absence.

I mean you're seriously talking about a set of games that are not coming to the switch that combined units sold are in the ballpark of 100 million

Sure bud.

You could scuff at Destiny Call of Duty Battlefield the division shadow of War Grand Theft Auto Red Dead Redemption what have you, but at the end of the day you cannot ignore that all those games combined have a ridiculous install base of consumers, literally you are talking about the vast majority of hardcore Gaming....

That is the install base of Gamers that is essentially completely irrelevant to Nintendo platforms.

So if in your personal opinion that Zelda overtakes all of those games that's completely nice but make sure you're making clear that is your personal opinion to be honest it's completely irrelevant to anything that's being stated.

Regardless of how good Zelda is or how much you're in love with the game that's not really relevant or even a realistic measurement in terms of how it's going to do in the future with the lack of games I'm sorry but Zelda's not going to move 100 million units buddy.

Your personal Love of the Game is not going to counter his point.

Uken123146d ago

All systems still lack games people! PS4 has been out for 4 years and is reaching the end of it's cycle in a few years. Given all that time, the system barely has any games. Garbage Indies and yearly rereleases do not count.

QUIMICOMORTAL3147d ago

yeah, and it has just 5% of the ps4 sales...hence the title!

LordJamar3147d ago

so is xbox but so much media hate you can never find good news

subtenko3147d ago

But overall when you look at everything together, Sony is dominating both (Overall)

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DarkZane3147d ago

Not if you compare the Switch to the PS4 and Xbox One. Both of them had stronger launches than the Switch.

hiawa233147d ago (Edited 3147d ago )

Well, the Switch is doing well, but they started this gen with the Wiiu

Thomaticus3147d ago

Lets talk about Nintendo in another article. Lets focus on Sony for right now.

Orionsangel3146d ago

People forget that the Wii U was made to go up against current gen systems. It flopped and Nintendo had to start over and release their followup system earlier than expected. So the Switch is very late in terms of catching up to the PS4's huge head start.

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EddieNX 3147d ago

Its crushing XB1 and the Wiiu, not the 3ds or Switch

Rimeskeem3147d ago (Edited 3147d ago )

The Switch hasn't been out long enough and the 3ds is a handheld.

EddieNX 3147d ago (Edited 3147d ago )

so then how is the ps4 crushing Nintendo as the article claims? Its crushing the XB1, its direct competition.

_-EDMIX-_3147d ago (Edited 3147d ago )

To be fair there both Portables

@edd-Sony is crushing Nintendo by sheer virtue of Nintendo even leaving the Home console Market to go exclusively portable in the first place they literally drove them out of the market.

That means no more Nintendo consoles that were only exclusively made to run off of the television those days are over and it looks like they're only into portable gaming right now.

Sony basically shove them out of the market, if you don't have enough marketshare, it's basically like not having enough poker chips

you cannot play the game...

EddieNX 3147d ago (Edited 3147d ago )

All you forget the VITA WAS CRUSHED OUT THE MARKET JUST LIKE THE WIIU. 3DS an PS4 are roughly the same and so are WIIU and VITA. I'd call that a draw, nobodys been crushed except XB1 by PS4. And now Switch is FAR from being crushed.

badz1493147d ago

@EddieNX

"so then how is the ps4 crushing Nintendo as the article claims?"

but you just said previously;

"Its crushing XB1 and the Wiiu..."

I get it that the Wii U was an embarrassment to Nintendo but no need to disowned it like THAT.

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AspiringProGenji3147d ago

Lol Switch hasn't even got 10m sales so that is still right, although not directly crushing it since it not competing againts it

2pacalypsenow3147d ago

The Switch and the 3Ds are portable consoles, they aren't competing with the Xbox 1 and PlayStation 4.

EddieNX 3147d ago

Thank you for proving my point. PS4 is crushing the XB1 , not Nintendo

Araragifeels 3147d ago

Switch is hybrid so it count as a console but I can't put say Switch is competing with PS4 directly since I see a different market and Switch doesn't even have a year.

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EddieNX 3147d ago

If all Nintendo has is Switch, 3DS, Mobile then it cant be compared to pure home consoles like PS4, XB1.

_-EDMIX-_3147d ago (Edited 3147d ago )

Absolutely agreed.

Sony is crushing Nintendo by the fact that they've just shoved them out of the console Market in the first place

Nintendo is only making Portables now as something I've predicted a long time ago would probably happen with their loss of market share.

The PlayStation 4 is crushing the Xbox one as it's currently happening but clearly Sony absolutely crushed Nintendo in terms of past tense because the Wii U looks like it's the last Nintendo Home console.

You can't really beat something that's already dead Nintendo's already conceded and now they're only focusing on Portables they just don't have enough market share to exist in that market anymore.

@ara-I mean sure if you want to be as desperate in as Petty as to stretch an exaggerated any term to make yourself feel better at the end of the day in layman's terms in clear perfect English this is a portable device.

It is not a device made exclusively as a set-top device to only run off of the television.

I mean by your logic nothing is really a Home console if simply outing to the television from a damn cord now constitutes as a Home console sure cell phones are home consoles now so are iPads /s

I mean by that logic the PSP the 3DS and the DS , PSV are all home consoles now... All of those devices can out to the television, officially and unofficially through Hacks

At the end of the day regardless of its accessories to out to the television this is a portable device and its Market is completely different.

Outing to the television doesn't suddenly negate its portability.

King Nezz3147d ago

You babies always say the same crap. The Switch isn't a console, blah, blah, blah. And when Xbox has an exclusive that also comes to PC, you'll say it's not an exclusive because it's on the PC. Shut up and grow up. Sony could give 2 shits about you. They just make great games not for you, but for your cash. So don't act like "Sony is for the gamers and they care about our needs".

IGiveHugs2NakedWomen3146d ago

In terms of annual profits, PlayStation is crushing Nintendo and Xbox.... COMBINED.

Uken123146d ago

_Edmix_

Sony didn't push them out of the console mix. The Wii was it's own thing and so was the Wii U. 3rd parties pushed them out, probably because of business and politics. Gamecube was a beast, it lost to Sony because they buy the exclusive rights to 3rd party games to sell their system. A tactic frowned upon by Sony fanboys when other companies do it.

Also PC has a hand in this, the second biggest gaming market next to portable and phones.
Just because a product sells the most doesn't actually mean it is the best product. Wii for example. "Nintendo crushed Sony". That's how stupid this sounds. If the console cycle was 5 years instead of 7-8, Sony would have lost by a huge margin.

The point is the content that is released is what matters. Nintendo is crushing it when it comes to first party and always will. Wii U has more high rated games than PS4. What matters when it comes to gaming is the games. As a consumer to say the least. Just because the Box I own sold 60 mil units doesn't make it good.

My overarching point is this, just enjoy the games that you are able to and quit comparing dick sizes.

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gbsrnctaln3147d ago

They crushed nintendo right out of the console space....to the point where they were totally eliminated.

_-EDMIX-_3147d ago

Pretty much.

I had a feeling such a thing would happen and I even predicted it on this very website that Nintendo would possibly go portable only and would simply out to the television as to give some of their console fans Comfort , but with 14 million units sold it's not going to matter that much about how their console fans feel , it's a smart decision to go exclusively portable in simply just have an accessory I wouldn't be surprised if in the future they completely get rid of the dock in just sell it without the accessory.

They are portable only now and have permanently left the Home console Market I think it's kind of funny that their own fan base doesn't see this or does it want to admit what's happening.

Suddenly goalposts are being moved in now everything is a Home console 😂😂😂

I always believed that the ability to out to the television in regards to the accessory was simply a peace offering and to soften the blow to their console install base that they're no longer making home consoles and moving permanently into the portable Market.

The accessory was simply to show face.

Realplaya3147d ago

The switch is a console. Does it plug to a tv via some sort of chord? Does it have a wireless controller?

2pacalypsenow3146d ago (Edited 3146d ago )

@Realplaya

It's a portable "Console".

The Vita can also be played on a TV (with a Vita TV) and also use a dualshock 4 when in Remote Play, hell some games perform worse when they are docked.

LordJamar3147d ago (Edited 3147d ago )

its crushing switch i dont know why nintendo fanbyos keep saying its not competing YES IT IS thats stupid to think otherwise stop giveing nintendo free passes

KwietStorm_BLM3147d ago

I thought it said crushing Microsoft and Nintendo, but whatever. Everybody crushed Nintendo. That's why the Wii U ended up where it did, and forced Nintendo's hand with the Switch.

_-EDMIX-_3147d ago

Pretty much

the beating that they took with the Wii U pretty much made them lose in extreme amount of market share in the Home console market so much so that they had to just exit that market and go portable only.

Regardless of what anybody wants to call the switch at the end of the day it is a portable.

Nintendo basically only makes portable devices now because Sony forcing their hand. But at the same time Nintendo is just as much in terms of fault for even creating such an underpowered device with very little third party assistance.

They are correct to go portable only.

If someone wants to keep desperately trying to pretend that it's now a hybrid simply because you could play it off of the television sure but at the end of the day this company basically no longer makes set-top-boxes exclusively designed to run off of the TV.

Sony very much owns that market and moved them out of it.

Nintendo's arrogance knows no bounds and I always find it ironic that the company they betrayed all those years ago would be the one that would come back in basically dominate them so much that they're forced to go portable only...

rainslacker3147d ago

Switch is doing well, so it's growing, but it's hard to gauge the success of a console within the first 6 months or so, because demand for a new console typically is pretty high. But on pure numbers, I'd say Sony is "crushing" in terms of sales, but Nintendo isn't in a bad situation right now.

Plus, Nintendo also knows that software is important, although they seem to think that it's just their own software which makes the biggest difference. Luckily, the Switch looks like it might get better support than the WiiU, but for the long term, it's not going to get a lot of the same software like the PS4 and X1 share. While this isn't likely a big problem, as it's Nintendo's portable system despite what they say, and the NS will get it's own exclusive content that won't be seen elsewhere if the 3DS is any indication. But, overall, Nintendo has pretty much given up on the home console market, and the Switch is just a way to capitalize on whatever is left of their fan base in that market. Nintendo knows where their success lies, and it's in handhelds. NS was a good idea in theory, because it allows them to stay competative in the home console market.

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AspiringProGenji3147d ago (Edited 3147d ago )

Keep classy and delivering, Senpai!
You got my support.

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galgor1d 5h ago

Can this mother fucker just get lost already

PRIMORDUS1d 4h ago

He belongs in here ⚰️, hopefully sooner than later.

MrDead13h ago(Edited 13h ago)

Kotick Made $155 million from MS in the buyout, the little b*tch needs to stop whining. Thanks to this Microslop deal and massive industry consolidation thousands upon thousands of devs and other workers lost their livelihoods. This greedy piggie pervert needs shut up and f-off.

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darthv722d ago

...me thinks a switch was involved.

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That’s some major layoffs best of luck to him and the rest that got laid off. It always hurt specially more before or during holidays.

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Cool, sucks to see him go!

elJoker51d 14h ago

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Dude finally got laid at 58 years old. Bit of a weird flex but im still happy for the guy!🥂

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