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Scorpio might be MS's Dreamcast moment, and not in a good way

Microsoft should start thinking like it's 2001 again, or else the Scorpio will risk being the most powerful car on the road without a set of tires on it.

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Gazondaily3153d ago

Microsoft should buyout Sega and release the Xbox Dreamcast. Yaa!

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Godmars2903153d ago (Edited 3153d ago )

MS hired most of Sega's US offices, just as Sega reached out to MS in designing the Dreamcast.

OG Xbox may as well have been the Dreamcast 2.

Edit:
"how about they start small and buy a studio or 2"

They've been doing that all along, Overlord.

Been letting them rot before breaking them up too. Rare's pretty much still in the gimp suit...

IGiveHugs2NakedWomen3152d ago (Edited 3152d ago )

Yep, I agree. The MS marketing suits have a tendency to meddle in the development process of games which is why their games tend to be easy and marketed towards casuals. I don't think microsoft understands that most gamers are 18 to 40.

TimSmithBRS3152d ago

RARE got saddled with designing software for a Kinect device that no one wanted. Completely wasted their resources there.

Bruh3152d ago

@TrimSmithBRS

LOL, the Kinect 1 to this date has sold more than PSVR and PS Move combined together. At its time the Kinect was a major commercial success. Its Microsoft inability to learn that motion gaming had its time and is no longer in the mainstream, that led them to create the Kinect 2 and thus shoot themselves in the foot this generation.

Godmars2903152d ago

@Bruh:

Commercial success how when its hardly talked about nowadays?

MS sold an idea, didn't have it up and running, and never proved that it could work competently or consistently.

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conanlifts3153d ago

Ms should certainly buy something.

IGiveHugs2NakedWomen3152d ago (Edited 3152d ago )

They need to buy a clue.

lelo2play3153d ago (Edited 3153d ago )

With the amount of money Microsoft wasted on Minecraft, they could have bought a bunch of studios with a bunch of exclusives... and with those exclusives, sold a bunch on consoles.

Even with the Scorpio, Microsoft is just too late in this generation to make a dent. Sony have the exclusives, and that's that.

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343_Guilty_Spark3153d ago

They've already made that money back and then some. Minecraft alone is more valuable than most Studios.

lelo2play3152d ago

@nativegoku

Do you think that Microsoft will ever recover the $2.5 Billion invested in MInecraft purchase?
I doubt it.

mixelon3152d ago

I'd be very surprised if ms haven't made that money back already, or are on track to do so. The merchant, plus the fact it's still one of the best selling games on every platform it touches, and shows no sign of calming down.

Bruh3152d ago

@lelo

No one actually cares about exclusives as much as the Sony crown knights on N4G think. A majority of software being sold on both platforms are games available on the opposing device. What sells units are hardware prowess, features, online community and price. As for Minecraft, in royalties alone from being on every major platform they'll make back their investment. Cry some more and think critically and then come back to make an argument

rainslacker3152d ago

I think MS will make it's money back on Minecraft, but I don't think it's done so yet. If it could make that much that quickly, it would have been worth more than what MS paid on it, because valuations are made based on what an asset is worth over the course of a time frame, usually 5 or 10 years depending on what it is.

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DarXyde3153d ago

And force Yakuza, Valkyria Chronicles, and now, Persona fans to buy an Xbox if they historically didn't just to play them?

Pass. Hard pass.

To the matter at hand, I don't care much about Scorpio, but I would like to see E3 focus more on games for the big three. I doubt any show will disappoint.

Aenea3153d ago

MS should sell Xbox to Sega for $1!

ImtiazKhan3152d ago

I doubt anyone is interested in buying crappy xbox.

pinkcrocodile753152d ago

I bought 2 Xbox One's (Family room and eldest sons birthday) and 2 Xbox One S's (Family room replacement so the other can go to my middle son and the last Xbox one S to our youngest)... So your doubt is unfounded

MS are a global monster financially so think again

thexmanone3152d ago

You must of did real well in school..

XanderZane3153d ago

They should have bought SEGA when they were making all those exclusives on the OG XBox. Not sure what they were thinking. Instead, now they have to struggle to get 1st party titles made quickly. They close studios, but don't have others to replay them immediately. That's one of their main problems. They should be adding new studios every quarter of the year. This way they would have a continuous flow of new and exclusive titles each year.

yeahright23152d ago (Edited 3152d ago )

Normally I would say that would run the risk of sega becoming like rare, but looking at the state of sega now... I think atlus is all it has going for it.
EDIT: oh and yakuza.

Bruh3152d ago (Edited 3152d ago )

LOL Number of exclusive made by each company this year

Microsoft - 1 ( Halo Wars 2)
Sony 3- ( Gravity Rush 2, Horizon Zero Dawn, MLB 17)

I don't see how Sony is dramatically supporting the PS4 far more than Microsoft is supporting the Xbox One. This is also to note that Sony releases a majority of their titles in the Spring while Microsoft in the fall.

rainslacker3152d ago

Was sega for sale at the time? You know with publicly traded companies, it's not just as easy as coming in and saying, "Hey, you want to sell me your company for X amount of dollars", or the company itself saying, "Hey, you wanna buy my company for X amount of dollars."

All these suggestions that companies should buy publicly traded companies are kind of silly because of this. They can certainly take controlling interests, or even have a big stake in the company, but buying it ouright is usually not possible because as soon as the stockholders get wind that a company wants to buy, the stock prices skyrocket to a point where it's not worth it anymore. That's why sales such as this are controlled, and then offered to the stockholders as an option which they can decide to take part of or not before they even sell their shares.

notachance3152d ago

yeah and let's just forget that Sega just recently announced a new initiative called 'Sega Forever'

IGiveHugs2NakedWomen3152d ago (Edited 3152d ago )

Microsoft is too busy listening to their hardcore fans who agree with everything that they do. Microsoft needs to listen to PC gamers, PS4 gamers, and Nintendo gamers, people with dissenting opinions. Powerful hardware running multiplatform games at 4k won't go very far without creative, entertaining exclusive software to support it.

AmUnRa3152d ago

Sega should buyout Microsoft and realese the Sega Scorpio One, Yaa!
That also sound dumb, good one Septic.

TheCommentator3152d ago

Here's what I don't get about the article.

Sega went bankrupt because of the mistakes they made by separating their market with both the Sega CD and the 32X, plus making the Saturn notoriously difficlut to program for. Sega was 600 million in debt whe the Dreamcast was launched and the system was wildly successful. unfortunately, Sega was too far in debt by the time their debt required repayment and chose to go software only by selling off the HW facility (etc.). Dreamcast also had a steady stream of games.

MS doesn't share any of those traits. They've got a decent amount of exclusives put out every year but nothing to write home about, quantity-wise. They've also never had an issue with selling consoles, even when the OG was going against the Juggernaut PS2 and Nintendo. Now MS has been talking about a renewed focus on games. I can't see how this writer's comparison to the Dreamcast is sensible in the least.

To your point, Septic, I've always thought they would be partners. The timing of MS' entry into the consle space coupled with the obvious styling cues taken from the DC controller and I was sure as 💩 that MS would buy Sega. I don't think it']] ever happen if it hasn't by now. It would be an awesome move by MS to gain exclusives though!

rainslacker3152d ago

If MS brought Sega, then it'd be for the intellectual property which would have been their only assets which kept them fom having to shutter their doors.

But you bring up a good point about their debt. MS buying Sega means they incur their debt, and I doubt at the time of Sega going software only, MS would have seen that much debt as something worth taking on.

TheCommentator3151d ago

Rain, I thought that Sega liquidated their HW division in order to stay solvent, and came out of the ordeal as a solvent 3rd party publisher. 🤔

If MS bought Sega today, they would gain not only a ton of IP's, but several developer studios as well. The franchises would help MS gain traction overseas and the aquisition would give them some pretty talented studios to boot. The chances of this actually happening though are about as good as us getting hit by an asteroid!

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KingKionic 3153d ago

It takes a lot of determination to compare the Scorpio to the Dreamcast and question it being a failure...before the console is even reveal.

Project scorpio is built to bring the PC environment to consoles. It also is built to be the True 4K go to system.

Scorpio has a lot going for it and were 12 days till E3 and we will get to see all of the games for it.

Its not a mourning everyone...its a celebration.

GrantPatterson3153d ago (Edited 3153d ago )

Nobody said it would be a failure. It's more of a cautionary tale than anything else, stating that Microsoft needs to show something besides the stable of system-exclusive franchises they've spent far too long leaning upon. Furthermore, they need to stop canceling things they don't see immediate motion on (i.e. the Phantom Dust reboot and Scalebound), and focus more on getting projects out of the weeds to show that their systems have something to offer that other systems don't...or at least something that isn't more first- and third-person shooters.

Of course, you'd realize that if you'd have read the article before commenting on it.

"The Scorpio needs exclusives from developers who are out to push that envelope, and Microsoft as a company needs to offer better support to beleaguered projects, not swift and sudden deaths. Nintendo will likely have relevance for a long, long time to come, thanks to a massive stable of franchises they have cultivated over the course of multiple decades. The Xbox brand itself is nearing twenty years old, and Microsoft only has three current major franchises to show for it. Releasing an expensive system without a strong lineup of software is risky as it is, and while Nintendo bet big on Zelda‘s singularity to carry the Switch in the early days of release, the Scorpio has no such blue-chip stock to fall back upon. Because of this, the Scorpio is on target to be twice as expensive to purchase — never mind produce — with very little to actually show for it, at least in the here and now.

It is in Microsoft’s best interests to reveal something truly mind-blowing at E3, and that will require something outside of shooters and racing simulators. If they fail to address this, they risk the Xbox brand echoing Sega’s legacy in all the wrong ways."

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KingKionic 3153d ago

Thats the end of the article you quoted.

This article you wrote is clearly exaggerating stuff in multiple areas.

" In 2017, we are dealing with a much different company with a much different focus, and I think that focus is what is threatening to make the Scorpio a very expensive mistake for manufacturer and consumer alike."

"Without the games that would set the system apart from the pack, the Xbox was going to be a very expensive failure, and Microsoft couldn’t afford for that to happen. "

"Microsoft needs to start thinking like they are in 2001 again, or else the Scorpio will risk being the most powerful car on the road without a set of tires on it."

And whats with this :

" If Sony can stick by The Last Guardian for nine years and wind up with a solid product, albeit one that was unable to fully live up to a near-decade of hype in all of its various forms, then Microsoft could stand to let something have a chance to take root, instead of yanking out the plant when it does not produce fruit on a speedy timetable."

Microsoft has had several games this generation release.

slate913153d ago

"Furthermore, they need to stop canceling things they don't see immediate motion on (i.e. the Phantom Dust reboot and Scalebound)"

Didn't see immediate motion on? Source? Or just speculation?

BigWan783153d ago

@GranttPatterson

Ur article is very much an extreme over exaggeration and not very well thought out...

You nor anyone rrally knows the full extent of what Scorpio is..

Also Sega, did retail channels dirty and that was their downfall...

Also, you fail to pay attention to the stubbornness that is Microsoft... they always stick it out till they get it right...

Understand a company as a whole before writing such things as this

343_Guilty_Spark3153d ago

What hell does this have to do with Dreamcast?

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LordJamar3152d ago

sea of thieves is a new ip and they got returning good games like state of decay 2 which is something they are investing in and didnt just let part 1 fall by the way side and see its potential and crack down 3 with full destruction just saying thats something

dilbig53152d ago

@Jamar

Again with the same 3 games lol. Say something new

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Seafort3152d ago

The scorpio and 4k gaming isn't the majority PC environment though. It's only about 1-5% of PC gamers that have 4k capable PC and the monitor to display 4k.

I certainly don't and I'm not that interested in 4k gaming for at least the next few years.

Microsoft and Sony are competing against an imaginary competition for the 4k gaming crown. It's ridiculous and makes no sense. They haven't even mastered the 1080p/60fps gaming consistently yet on console so to me they've jumped a massive step that doesn't even exist in PC gaming for the majority of people on PC.

thexmanone3152d ago

DFC Intelligence reports that there are 1.17 billion PC gamers

http://www.gamersnexus.net/...

5% * 1.17 billion = 58 500 000

That sure is a lot of people to me.

yeahright23152d ago

That same report says that almost all console gamers are also PC gamers. now that true for me personally, But I seriously doubt that's true for the majority of console gamers. That more seems like they're counting stuff like facebook flash games, solitaire and such.

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Lennoxb633153d ago (Edited 3153d ago )

The Dreamcast was a console that had great games and power and still couldn't sell. There's no one dimension that goes into being successful. Most of the market run by familiarity and word of mouth. Like iPhones for example aren't the most powerful or most feature rich phone on the market. Yet it still outsells all other phone modes.

tee_bag2423152d ago

What would they accomplish though? Sega don't make hardware anymore and their games still come out on Xbox anyway.

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Grown Folks Talk3152d ago

Dreamcast was done in by the lack of EA support. No Madden back then was a critical blow.

Lennoxb633152d ago

They had a game that was bigger than Madden today. 2K.

Grown Folks Talk3152d ago

2K didn't really pop off until 05 when Madden was forced to drop their price due to 2K only being $20. I'm sure their were many like me who enjoyed it from jump, but that was the blast off. I would like to see what they could do with todays hardware. More so with NCAA than NFL personally tho.

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MrDead4d ago

I've been surprised by this, the difference between 4 and 4.5 is very noticeable. It's almost completely or has removed that weird dark ghosting that you'd get in foggy games like Silent Hill 2... and Cyberpunk mixed with a high res texture pack is jaw dropping in ultra 4k.

Also if anyone doesn't know I recommend DLSS swapper, it allows you to inject the latest DLSS version into older games.

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totally useless since NVIDIA app release last year... It does force latest DLSS to global settings if you ask the app to do so.

MrDead2d ago

The NVidia app doesn't let you choose which version of, DLSS Frame Gen and DLSS Ray Reconstruction like DLSS Swapper does.

Goodguy013d ago

Quite amazing. But, this does probably mean devs will depend on ai even more for their supposed optimizations lol.

Neonridr3d ago

no offense to AMD, but this sort of stuff shows that they are always going to be playing catchup. I guess Nintendo can take advantage of some of these features.

badz1492d ago

With the Switch 2? NVidia can easily lock their proprietary tech to their latest GPUs and the Switch 2 will be stuck on 3.5 for 5 more years at least

Neonridr2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

4 and 4.5 are available on 2 and 3 series cards right now. The Switch GPU is based on 3 series architecture, meaning it has access to some of those features. Obviously not as much as the higher end cards, but still some.

TheDreamCorridor1d 22h ago (Edited 1d 22h ago )

"Better than native."

Native 4K in nearly all games nowadays is actually native resolution with forced temporal anti-aliasing.

TAA smears and blurs frames together to soften jagged edges.

Of course DLSS makes games look "better than native" because native alone without any competent AA methods makes games look horrible.

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