Great thing about pc is that gamers aren't locked to one service. So what if it's not on steam?? It's not like it's inaccessible to steam users now.

Steam does not own PC gaming. This is a stupid question.

This is my opinion, backed only by logical conjecture. But the more I consider it, the more it makes sense. A couple prerequisites. First, whether delivered elegantly by the surly Luke Smith, or a dry corporate suit, it is a fact that most explanations we get our simply the best spin available to explain business strategy, or financial decisions. Second, D2 is a PvE game first and foremost, and will again break records because even those who may have issues, like myself, still love the hell out of it, and more is enough, even if very similar. Third, Sony paid a TON of money for exclusivity (my opinion, simply to keep away from MS, just my opinion).

Ok. So, a few yrs ago Sony pays Activision a lot of money. Cool. It worked! They had the best console, it wasn't coming to PC, and so a ton of ppl purchased it for the PS4. Success!! Fast forward to 2017. Sony is still paying a lot of money and Destiny will probably be this year's biggest selling game. But, unlike 2014, it is releasing for the PC and the Scorpio. Now, Sony is the 3rd best option to play it on, instead of the first, strictly spec speaking. What to do? Hmmm? Maybe cap the console fps at 30fps, show off 4k to equalize itself with the Scorpio, and delay the PC, forcing anyone who wants the game this year to buy it on console. Which console should I buy it on? Well, since they are the same now, I'll buy it in the one that offers exclusive content. And just like that, Sony becomes the best option again!

Kinda smart actually. So when Luke Smith says, it can't run at 60fps, Ill take him at his word that it can't run it at 4k/60fps throughout, as it is PvE and PvP; it absolutely can at 1080. And even if it can't do it at 1080 throughout, it 100% can run PvP at 1080/60. And many games have separated the two. There's no reason D2 can't. Well, I take that back. There is a HUGE financial reason!

When they speak about Battlenet and Steam, what they are actually saying is, there is no way Sony will allow this game to be offered by any service that isn't owned by Activision.

Don't have a pc yet but is this only if you buy digitally it's hosted on battle.net what about the physical version.

No idea why anyone would see Steam's competition as a bad thing but okay.

No one's getting screwed, if it was Uplay though that would be a different story, I haven't touched a ubisoft game since FC3 because of that crap and how it handles user accounts

No, businesses have a right to sell their own merchandise wherever they want. People angry at this just come off as entitled.

Steam is not PC. And Steam does not have monopoly of all games. So no Destiny 2 is not screwing over Steam users.

No.

I don't understand why people hate Steam so much. It is not Steam's fault they hold the majority of the gaming market place, that is the goal of any business. This is a capitalistic country, if you don't like Steam's practice make your own business and compete with them, that is your right too. Moreover, I don't care what client games are on, I just enjoy the games. I bet every gamer has every client installed right now, yes including Ubisoft Play. I don't go around looking for clients to play....I look for games.

Considering Steam users are free to get Battle.net, and Steam doesn't have a monopoly on PC gaming...No, it's not. Steam is not entitled to every PC game.

They didn't put it on Steam because once people find out that it's just an overpriced expansion pack (which wouldn't take long to figure out) then they would refund it.

With a well established client launcher with millions using it, it is a no brainer. I don't see how it's a problem.

Surprised its taking this long for big publishers to move off Steam completely, EA's done it. I feel this news might just push Ubisoft to go exclusively through Uplay from now on other than the new South Park game. You know when people ask you where do you see yourself in ten years, I wonder if Valve is asking the same?

You can use steam while running non steam games...

How does this screw anyone over at all?

How are they screwing people over. Just download battle.net its free....i mean huh????

Better late than never.

It’s ok we have Horizon: Hunter’s Gathering. 😆

Sony needs to get back to making great single player games!

I'm not too sure a lot of the people who visit N4G know what Sony have said recently. They "Sony" want an increase of monetization of their user base and deepen sales on other platforms. So to mitigate the rise in hardware components cost. More expensive services, games, micro transactions and lastly more live service stuff. Who would have thought 🤷‍♂️

An expensive lesson but I think a lesson worth learning

You would have thought that the Concord disaster would have been enough.

Looks like they finally got the message.

Good for sure, but did TLOU Factions really need to die for this? It never needed to be live service, 39.99 and we'd play it forever as is.

I'll never understand why they bought Bungie in the first place (especially for that price), Sony got grifted hard.

Duh! I mean really though, how is it that us bum ass gamers figured that out before these high-paid executives?

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i mean i'm surprised they didn't see this sooner from the reaction to almost every live service game thats come out.

Do single player campaign games including some games that have sp & multiplayer modes with co-op basically like the components in Halo & Destiny but try something new that's not a typical shooter. An action or action adventure game would be nice.

Bungie have problems internally for sure but Sony shouldn’t get a free pass here. Sony have bungled their management of them big time with their live service mandate. Did they forget Bungie’s pedigree in making single player games?

No no guys come on
15th times the charm

Bungie was such a bad investment for Sony, especially considering what they paid for it. MS pushed them to do that after getting Bethesda and Activision. One MS exec said they wanted to spend Sony out of business in 2019.

The less live services they do the better. Their single player games will ALWAYS be their bread and butter.

It was a very bad move. They way overpaid for something many of us don’t care about, live service mp. If they paid maybe 1/10th or so it wouldn’t be so bad but billions for a super risky studio. Their gunplay in games is great but that only lasts so long. They should have them make some single player games and maybe they can recoup some of that $$