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Will Crackdown 3 Be The Rabbit In Xbox Scorpio's Hat For Launch?

"Surprise, surprise, I’ve stumbled into another fanboy war with a recent post detailing about why I’m choosing to make the leap from Xbox One to PS4 to play Destiny 2 this fall, even with Xbox Scorpio on the horizon.

Among the other arguments being made, there’s a general sense from Microsoft fans that Scorpio is poised to rule this fall when it arrives with its super-specs, and one game in particular keeps being brought up a lot as a reason to buy, Crackdown 3." By Paul Tassi

OB1Biker3294d ago

Ha another one from Forbes. I don't mind too much when they go about the companies and criticise to their heart content. But they manipulate the readers into so called console wars they so hypocritlcally deride.
'I’ve stumbled into another fanboy war with a recent post detailing about why I’m choosing to make the leap from Xbox One to PS4 ' one piece to bait and then another one to deride the fans and stir the sht.'Though fans have taken to treating it like the second coming, '
Don't go into that crap guys.

mikeslemonade3293d ago

No more Red Dead 2 sealed my fate of not getting a Scorpio. Red Dead 2 coming out fall of 2018 means that they may even make a port for the PS5 when that is released.

Kaze243293d ago

PS5? lol they just released the Pro late last year, all this PS fanboys think sony gonna release a PS5 in 2018, earliest I see that happening is 2019, maybe 2020 and Red dead 2 was pushed back to spring not fall 2018.

RosweeSon3293d ago (Edited 3293d ago )

I wouldn't have got it there anyway Rockstar and Sony go hand in hand. Ps5 port in 2-3 years after launch enjoy the wait ps5 hasn't even been mentioned let alone revealed announced or even discussed to public not this year not next year it's not coming til 2020 earliest and that'll be Japan.

mikeslemonade3293d ago

PS5 is fall of 2018 confirmed by me.

FallenAngel19843294d ago

What happened to "da powah uv da clowd" that this game is being hyped for

Obscure_Observer3294d ago

@FallenAngel1984

We´ll shall see soon enough. The only thing i´m 100% sure, is that one side will come out of disappointed.

UltraNova3293d ago

The xb1 one side is already dissapointed they had to listen about da power of da cloud used in Crackdown 3 only for them to watch it fade into da power of de Scorpio....

Obscure_Observer3293d ago

@UltraNova

Yes, it´s possible and MS will be mocked forever! Since i can´t foresee the future, all i can say is that some people from A or B camp will come out hurt of MS´s E3 press.

Knushwood Butt3293d ago

It takes an exceptionally long time to harness such power.

DigitalRaptor3294d ago (Edited 3294d ago )

It should, at the bare minimum, be a solid shooter if all 3 studios working on it have been able to coordinate their efforts well. The key is the destruction and I think that the calculations for making it happen using cloud compute is likely something they've been able to pull off after all this time (otherwise it would have been canceled), so it will probably be something quite redeeming for Xbox gamers if a great game comes of it. But the question is...

Where do MS go from there once it's out? I mean the whole leveraging of cloud compute done by Cloudgine is completely bespoke for Crackdown 3. Can't see how they can re-use it on anything but a game that makes use of mass cityscape destruction and shooty-bang weapons. Maybe they'll sell it as service middleware to third-party developers.

And so, they sold the original XB1 on the "power of the cloud" PR and not only will it have been almost an entire generation before their tentpole example is out for gamers to play, but a console that is 4x as powerful as the original XB1 is coming alongside it when it launches. MS originally claimed that the cloud would make the XB1 4x more powerful. That degree of irony is priceless.

Obscure_Observer3294d ago

@DigitalRaptor

"Can't see how they can re-use it on anything but a game that makes use of mass cityscape destruction and shooty-bang weapons"

Some games i have in mind which should use the power of the cloud: Otogi 3, Phantom Dust 2 and a new Black (from Criterion) :)

denawayne3293d ago

Why does the cloud have to only be used for destruction? How about AI, particle effects, weather, draw distance, more enemies on screen, more interactive objects.....

UltraNova3293d ago

If it was easy to remotely simulate all those instructions you have mentioned, send and sync (flawlessly) hundreds of thousands of people simultaneously(not to mention end user internet quality issues), then they would have done it a long time ago.

freshslicepizza3293d ago

Well if Bungie used the power of the cloud instead to handle things like physics instead of its peer to peer network then perhaps we would be getting 60fps. The first Titanfall also used the power of the cloud.

What Crackdown 3 could show is in offline mode how much more powerful Scorpio is there but the cloud will help the Xbox One when online.

DigitalRaptor3286d ago

@ Denawayne

They've spent all generation working on a specific use case for the cloud, and it's the only substantial one announced. If they had more games in the works doing similar things due to be out before this gen ends, then they would have been announced years ago. They can do whatever they want with the tech, but if they take as long as they've taken to complete Crackdown 3, it's gonna probably take just as long again to build another specific use case around another game.

All those things you mentioned already could have been done years ago in all of Microsoft's big first-party games on the original hardware, but they haven't done it. They are all talk about their investments and "innovations" and then nothing substantial comes of it, at least not for years or in any great volume.
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@ moldybread

MS could have used the power of the cloud to do this years ago. All of their first-party games could have used the power of the cloud to run at 60fps. They could have convinced more developers to use the power of the cloud in a huge way before Scorpio was even a thought in the back of the mind of Phil Spencer, and long before you decided to start using fanboy conspiracy theories to paint Sony as potentially responsible for the reason Destiny 2 might not be 60fps on Scorpio.

rainslacker3291d ago

The application is only limited by the developers imagination and the practical functionality of the technology itself, coupled with the resources available to get it all running.

Such is the case with most game design.

XiNatsuDragnel3294d ago (Edited 3294d ago )

Da powah uv da cloudz at it again

Patriot4Life3293d ago

E3 needs to hurry up...this place is getting boring and recycled news is getting old.

UltraNova3293d ago

Even mentioning how boring it has been here has gotten old...

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Tencent to buy Crackdown and Sackboy developer Sumo in $1.3bn deal

Tencent is set to buy Sumo Group in a deal worth $1.27bn (£919m), the companies have announced.

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Darkborn1776d ago

Tencent is really buying up everything. I'm surprised everyone is selling to them like this.

Rebel_Scum1776d ago

They want/need capital I guess.

darthv721776d ago

No way they are worth that much. They are a support studio. I guess tencent decided to throw them an insane price that Sumo would be crazy to turn down.

Its like the godfather. "Im going to make you an offer you cant refuse"

UltraNova1775d ago

Always the case.

Who owns the rights to Crackdown and Sackboy IPs though?

boing11776d ago

I've heard some time ago, that they created a special unit that has a mission to search for acquirable devs all around the globe.

-Foxtrot1776d ago

Going off their business practices they seem like a cancer in this industry

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blacktiger1776d ago

chinese currency, no limit in printing, but they are selling in USD

PrinceAli1776d ago

Maybe because they're a publisher of games with a history of success loool..?

barom1776d ago

Even Microsoft can’t compete with that kind of money.

Zeref1775d ago (Edited 1775d ago )

Uhm yes they can.. What do you mean?

Zeref1775d ago

Money talks, Besides, those developers don't need to worry about income anymore.

enkiduxiv1775d ago

I doubt anyone that matters to the actual production of the games is getting a raise. The only thing that has changed is that now they can't buy any Winnie the Poo products for their kids.

senorfartcushion1775d ago

Well they’re allowed. America and China are leading the world in toxic capitalism.

n1kki61775d ago

As publicly traded companies it's either they sell and potentially get more, or tencent initiates a hostile takeover and buys at least 51% of the shares. These companies might not even be amicable to the buy out but opt to take it because hostile takeovers are terrible.

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frostypants1775d ago (Edited 1775d ago )

Yep. A company that built itself by ripping off IP of small, innovative developers and out-marketing them. Tencent is everything wrong not just with gaming but corporate ethics in general, and the assymetric regulatory playing field we for some reason permit from the Chinese government. Egregiously corrupt companies like Tencent should be banned from the US market.

senorfartcushion1775d ago

The US market would take Tencent to dinner and have it naked on the bed by midnight if it could. America and China are as bad as each other

Lightning771775d ago

They can take Sumo those devs really aren't that great. Sack boys big adventure scored good however but Crackdown 3 wasn't great. They're 50/50 Sony will find a suitable replacement for Sack boy. MS desperately needs a suitable replacement for crackdown, if it's not already too late in terms of fanfare at this point.

Sumo to me isn't that big of a deal there are better devs out there.

senorfartcushion1775d ago

Crackdown 3 was cancelled and remade a few times. Hardly their fault.

darthv721775d ago

This is the same Sumo who made Outrun 2, 2006 Coast to Coast, Sonic Racing Transformed as well as Forza Horizon 2 on the 360. I think they are better than you give them credit for.

Wulfer1775d ago

You might want to walk this statement back. Why else do you think this game goes for over $200 now?

https://www.ebay.com/p/5144...

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ScootaKuH1776d ago

I'm surprised Sumo are valued so high

solideagle1776d ago

yeah, thats what I thought. $1.3 billion is very high, Insomniac sounds like a bargain deal for Sony!

chadwarden1776d ago

And they likely bought Housmarque and Bluepoint for even less than Insomniac.

phoenixwing1775d ago

at the two above me,
it's easy to sell for less when you know you're in good hands business and culture wise. I mean sure you could scratch out some extra money elsewhere but are all the people you know going to be taken care of when you get bought out? Sony takes care of them. Basically you can tell who's a scheming money scumbag by what ceo's/execs choose to be bought by. In the end money talks but there's extras to consider sometimes.

roadkillers1776d ago

I am as well. They do not own any IPs from my understanding...

DOMination-1776d ago

Me too! After looking them up, it seems like they were the parent of other game studios: Lab42, Red Kite, Sumo India, The Chinese Room and PixelAnt Games and also have some cryptocurrency technology.

They may also still hold the IP for back when they were Gremlin Interactive.. back in the Amiga days they were really a dev of some repute.

ScootaKuH1775d ago

Gremlin. Now there's a name that takes me back. Ocean as well.

Teflon021775d ago

They're not, it's likely them just throwing money around to make sure they have no opposition. Sumo is a valuable developer as they've assisted in alot of great games. They did LBP3, Sackboy, Sonic Transformed, I believe Assisted in both ModNation Racers and LBPK, Team Sonic racing, just to name the few off the top of my head that I own.

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IRetrouk1776d ago

I honestly thought ms or Sony would have nabbed them, seeing as they have worked for both on their respective ips, colour me surprised.

Bennibop1776d ago

It's a lot of money for a group with no ips, what would they have worked on to keep so many studios and staff employed. For now at least they continue working on ips for the likes of Sony and Microsoft.

IRetrouk1776d ago

Sony and ms have more than enough ips to keep em busy, the price would have been an issue though, that I agree with, just surprised is all🤷‍♂️

frostypants1775d ago (Edited 1775d ago )

Tencent doesn't exactly pride themselves on original IP anyway. They just steal someone else's. They only need developer drones.

Sephiroushin1775d ago

They have enough to make them busy but there is no point in buying the studio that high, they could just make the developers some offers and thats it... heck every single developer could just quit the studio and with what is tensen left? no point in buying a studio with no IP you dont own the developers

IRetrouk1775d ago

I already agreed that the price was high, still don't take away that they could have been used, and be useful to either ms or sony

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Xbox Cloud Gaming PC Preview/Hands on Impressions (BETA) - CG

Microsoft recently released their Xbox Cloud Gaming PC Beta which allows users the opportunity to stream Xbox games to their Windows 10 PCs or laptops. This follows on from being able to use the cloud gaming on mobile devices which works very well but is limited to the size of your screen. Having the option to play Xbox games with a larger display has its obvious benefits.

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Crackdown 3 8K 60 FPS - Possible at Low-Medium Settings with an RTX 3090

CG writes: Nvidia’s claims that the RTX 3090 can render games in 8K at 60 FPS, ring true for us in this video. We put the game Crackdown 3 through its paces with some interesting results.

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bunt-custardly2053d ago

If you've ever super-sampled anything you would know why it can make things look better.

bouzebbal2052d ago

Let's talk about powahhhh of da clawwdd for a second 🤣did they give up with this thing?

bunt-custardly2053d ago

Oh right, I didn't get the joke sorry, it just clicked. Hmm, is Crackdown 3 really that bad/universally hated especially as it's on gamepass?

SullysCigar2053d ago

My attempt at humour could have been clearer, in hindsight..!

Yeah, sadly Crackdown 3 had been hyped so hard and so long by Microsoft, that when it launched as a mediocre game, it got panned. It was mainly the broken promises about the power of the cloud I think that did it. This was the 'cloud power' poster child for years and it all amounted to nothing, which is a real shame, because if they'd realised their initial vision it could have been special.

bunt-custardly2052d ago

I do remember the original vision where entire buildings could be demolished but wasn't that feature relegated to the multiplayer mode? For me, Crackdown 3 comes across quite generic. I suppose if it had the full destruction in the story mode that would have been bad-ass. If Red Faction Guerrilla can do it why not CD?

FanboySpotter2052d ago

Crackdown 3 was made for crackdown fans. Hated by non crackdown fans. Enjoyed by crackdown fans.

MadLad2052d ago

I played it on PC for a little while via gamepass. It's not nearly as terrible as people would try to make it out to be, but it's the definition of a "meh" game.
There's fun to be had if you're bored.

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andy852052d ago

It's good it's possible but who would pick this over 4K60 on ultra? It would look far better

IanTH2052d ago

100%. This is obviously just showing what can be done with the current highest end hardware, rather than what should be. And if you're splashing out for an RTX 3090 over a 3080 for gaming (small performance delta if not using that huge buffer for productivity), then I guess you'll also consider splashing out for an 8k screen. And, I mean, you'll want to be able to do *something* with it lol.

outsider16242052d ago

Let's be honest here, even with extra high settings at 8k 120fps... it'll still look like crap. Sorry.

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