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Believing Blu-ray will succeed doesn't make sense

CNET's Crave on Friday reported on Nielsen's latest VideoScan figures, showing that Blu-ray Disc's market share in the video disc market has slumped in the past week.

According to Nielsen, Blu-ray's market share dropped to just 8 percent of the overall market, giving DVDs a whopping 92 percent ownership.

Granted, those figures show only one week's performance, and Blu-ray may have a huge week soon and capture more of the market, but let's be honest with ourselves: do we really think that will happen?

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Tacki6434d ago

Believing you can predict the future doesn't make sense.

Le-mo6434d ago (Edited 6434d ago )

Reading his article doesn't make much sense either.

fishd6434d ago

Blu-ray won the format war,HD-DVD is dead,get over it!

JackBauerIsHIGH6434d ago

All that's missing from this article are the words "Flame On!"

nbsmatambo6434d ago

when i read the title i was just like wow...

Itrguy0016434d ago

lol well flame on *note remember too put on flame suit for flamers*

ShinMaster6434d ago

You don't trust CNET with PS3/Blu-ray reports.
They haters man.

harrisk9546434d ago

DVD invented around 1995 and it's first films were released in the US in early 1997 and yet didn't overtake VHS until mid-2003. That is nearly 6 years for it to overtake vhs even though we all know how much better and more convenient dvds were! I mean, MY FIRST DVD PLAYER WAS MY PS2!! And I'm usually an "early adopter" of technology. Early DVD players were very expensive and the DVDs were expensive. It took YEARS for Blockbuster (and other video rental stores) to begin carrying DVDs. And if I remember correctly, early on, it was like $50 to $75 to buy a DVD movie!! So, why is everyone counting out Blu-ray when it is being adopted by consumers at a rate of about 5 or 6 times the rate DVDs were adopted!!

It is amazing the poor journalism that exists on the web today!!

Any, by the way, anyone only has to look at the recent Spore DRM debacle (or the DRM issues on PSN that I recently read about) to realize why digital downloads will not catch on for years! (not to mention the usual arguments about most people not having the broadband necessary to make DD feasible).

Anyway, that is it for my rant... Thanks for listening.

Final_Rpg6434d ago

Believing this article got approved doesn't make sense.

facepalm6434d ago (Edited 6434d ago )

And voting for G.W. Bush for a second term didn't make sense either, but people still made their choice...

And mine is with Blu-Ray...

Nuclearwinter6434d ago

Yeah, and if only the democrats knew how to choose a nominee that could actually beat a republican. Much like HDDVD, they talked a big game and drew some support but when it came down to it they just didn't have what it took to win.

anh_duong6434d ago

although he tries to be impartial, this guy doesn't like apple or sony.

read all his articles in the last 2 months if you don't believe me:

Why Microsoft should acquire Sony's gaming division (then says "Developer consolidation is bad for the video game industry")

Apple extends contract with AT&T, forgets about you

Is Apple the only company that can do no wrong?

Why Apple's event next week won't 'rock' at all

It's time for Sony to downsize

No matter what Apple says Tuesday, it'll disappoint

The Xbox 360 should win this console war

Why the Sega Dreamcast won the last console war

Why the Playstation 4 won't have Blu-ray

The Digital Home 33: Is Vista the best OS of all-time?

The Digital Home Podcast 34: Apple is getting out of hand

sonarus6434d ago (Edited 6434d ago )

who cares what this clown says...i'm going to buy unrated comedy collection:) 40 yr old virgin, saving sarah marshall and knocked up:D 54 bucks on amazon...thats less than 20 bucks a movie

Long live bluray:D

BattleAxe6434d ago

Reading CNET doesn't make sense.

thesummerofgeorge6434d ago

If we listened to these morons, the ps3, 360, bluray and pc gaming are all dying. So what do they think is gonna happen, people will settle on DVD's as the final format for the rest of time? Cause the only other option would be a brand new format... Which would do worse than Bluray cause it would be starting from scratch. It has ZERO competition... Once hdtv's are more common, and dvd's are slowly phased out, what do they think will happen? people will stop buying movies? It's not too difficult to understand why the sales are doing poorly right now, bluray's are expensive, and not many people have yet to buy a bd player or even an hdtv.... I would be way more surprised if bluray wasn't struggling during the peak of dvd's lifespan, people don't immediately buy a new hdtv and bluray player just cause it won the format war... It takes time.

Gothdom6434d ago

if it's not american, they won't like it.

Look at the alternate source of the article. Thanks alexM. :)

MNicholas6434d ago

and the losers who supported it are just as bitter.

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dukadork6433d ago

what a bunch of hilarious losers, lol!

GIJeff6433d ago

"Why the Sega Dreamcast won the last console war" really? he actually wrote that or is that you being funny over the interwebs? Sega had failed the moment the Saturn was released. I love segas games, and wish they could come back, but saying the dreamcast one is plain stupid.

pixelsword6433d ago

... Why would I believe them?

pixelsword6433d ago (Edited 6433d ago )

... just like the 33% was actually 68%; Microsoft is just like the Bush Administration.

N4U6433d ago

that a glass window would shatter before it happened. I made that prediction right before I threw a molotov c0cktail, or three, at it, but I predicted its future nonetheless.

I guess the point here is that you shouldn't drink when you have a lighter and extra tighty whities on hand...no,no wait, the point is that you CAN predict the future quite accurately, but it is very limited (seconds/minutes/days but not years).

In the case of BD vs. DVD vs. DD, it's definitely too early to be confident what exactly will happen. Most likely, as more and more people adapt to HD entertainment, DVD will slowly become obsolete and the battle will be solely between Blu-ray and Digital Distribution.

My bet's on Blu-ray because I fear that machines will eventually try to take over the world via the internet. If DD starts killing people, I highly doubt that many will prefer to purchase their movies that way...maybe it's just me, though.

Besides, the name "Blu-ray" just sounds so B. a##. It sounds like something straight out of Star Wars. Like it's some kind of super powerful ray gun that can explode whole planets in mere milliseconds. I like exploding stuff so, naturally, I like Blu-ray.

DD - or as I like to call it, "Double-D" - reminds me of Dolly Parton. Don't get me wrong, I way like extreme cleavage. But there's just something about a wrinkly old woman's face on a gorgeous body that just turns me off (brown paper bag with a hole?).

So, in conclusion, Blu-ray wins by a landslide!

anh_duong6433d ago (Edited 6433d ago )

"Why the Sega Dreamcast won the last console war by Don Reisinger

"OK, so maybe the Dreamcast didn't really win the last console war. But who cares? The way I see it, the Dreamcast was the best console of them all. If you wanted to play great games, one of the best places to do so was on the Dreamcast. It had Shenmue, Samba de Amigo, 2K Sports, Skies of Arcadia, Jet Set Radio, and countless other titles like the Sonic and Crazy Taxi series that truly made an impression on the lives of many gamers. And we also can't forget that many of those series still live on in today's consoles."

"See, I don't really care that the Dreamcast was torn apart during the last console generation. To me, the Dreamcast was the real winner because it provided me with the highest level of satisfaction and the best all-around gameplay. It may not support an online gaming environment like we're used to today and it won't look any better on my HDTV, but it can do something that few consoles since its release have been able to do: provide me with a fun factor that eclipses all else because it's designed with the gamer in mind."

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this guy obviously laments the passing of the dreamcast and hd dvd. now you can understand why he hates sony. however, don't hate him - he needs help. the question is why cnet should employ a guy with such a deep and old grudge. his employment destroys their credibilty.

further comments from same author curtesy of nipgrip

http://www.n4g.com/NewsCom-...

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LightningPS36434d ago (Edited 6434d ago )

Simply put the facts down. Sales and rentals are still very slow.

And a few people are already using digital distribution.

distribution still has a long ways to go, but by the looks of things so does Blu ray.

So not good. Blu ray is failing.

I don't think Sony PS3 is counting on blu ray anymore. Any help is welcome but I doubt Blu ray will help sales. As soon as sales get out of hand, Sony will be forced to cut price again.

Real Gambler6434d ago (Edited 6434d ago )

"Simply put the facts down. Sales and rentals are still very slow."
Yes, it's still called the summer effect. Let's wait until Christmas and see if numbers pick up first. Fall's blockbusters are just starting to come up. Nothing was worth buying during the summer.

"And a few people are already using digital distribution."
Yes, they are called PIRATES. When business like Netflix will SELL move movies than Blurays, we will be able to say, yes, bluray is over. But for now, the market is shifting from DVD to Bluray, with a very insignifiant number of people BUYING HD digital movies.

"distribution still has a long ways to go, but by the looks of things so does Blu ray."
BluRay is available NOW and EVERYWHERE. Massive Digital Distribution is not available everywhere. It will take years before everybody can download 200 gig per month, quickly and at low cost. (That's only 4 movies in Bluray quality...). You have to BUY the movie and pay for internet. Sure you can pay little and take 4 hours to download a 50gig movie, or you can pay $100 a month, plus the movie charge, and make sure your hard drive never blow out (or maybe burn it on a Bluray???)

"So not good. Blu ray is failing."
If you don't enjoy a bluray movie on your PS3, try connecting your PS3 to an HDTV. It may help. How many movies have you watched so far?

"I don't think Sony PS3 is counting on blu ray anymore. Any help is welcome but I doubt Blu ray will help sales. As soon as sales get out of hand, Sony will be forced to cut price again."
Bluray in the PS3 is for GAMES. Sure enough, it's a bonus to be able to play movies on the PS3. Sure enough, it's still the best bluray player. But it's there so future games have enough room for quite a few years to come. And yes, eventually, the PS3 price will go down. You don't need a genius to claim that. Every consoles since PONG have came down in prices many time during their lifecycle. PS3 is not an exception.

Final_Rpg6434d ago

Bluray is moving along just fine. Give it time, stop being a troll.

FantasyStar6434d ago (Edited 6434d ago )

I think for PS3, Blu-Ray needs to prove itself, beyond what the 360 can ever handle. Make FPS games that last 20 hours, levels as big as the Virgin Islands, content as big as my hot and spicy boner for Solid Snake and do something about those mandatory HDD installs and slow load times.

Then people will start singing another tune, the whole de-facto of BR in the first place was that Moar space = Moar for your buck.

orakga6434d ago

I feel that you generally have a fair PoV, but on this one you seem to have overlooked a certain fact: people using DD doesn't mean that BD is dead.

I rent movies from Amazon Unbox (DD) EXTENSIVELY. But those are only for movies that I dont want to buy on BD (usually crappy drama movies that aren't worth more than $5 anyway; I wouldn't buy DVDs for these movies either).

ANY movie that I want to keep, I buy Blu Ray. Any movie I want to RENT, I DD.

Just wait until mid-October. Iron Man comes out in a week. All stats will flip.

And why does this idiot Don keep writing stupid articles like this?? CNET shoulda fired him three months ago.

SaiyanFury6433d ago

I made up my mind about this article when I got to this paragraph:

"Sure, you can buy a Blu-ray movie at the store or get one from Netflix, and play it on your PS3 or standalone player, but you won't be able to play it on your notebook unless you have the latest and greatest laptop on the market. And you certainly won't be able to watch it in the car on a long ride. And unless your friends have a PS3 or a Blu-ray player, you won't be able to watch it with them, either.

The beauty of Blu-ray is the 1080p HD visuals which are meant to be enjoyed on a big screen HDTV. Play a Blu-ray in a car? On what, a 7 or 10 inch screen? What would be the point? Play a BD on a laptop screen? Again, what's the point? A standard DVD looks great on small screens. Trying to play a BD on a tiny screen, the point is completely moot.

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Makidian6434d ago

Anyone who takes anything that he writes to heart is silly, not only does he hate Sony(which is only a small portion of the BDA), he has a GIANT hard-on for Microsoft. All of his points are moot and useless. "OMG Blu-Ray sucks because it's new and expensive and DVD's have been cheap since they launched and portable's exist fot them and I'm a big fat idiot that nobody should listen to". Please, Resinger needs to get another job,maybe when Major Nelson retires he take his job, he'd be perfect for it.

The gaming GOD6434d ago (Edited 6434d ago )

is that ALL video sales have dropped lately (blu ray and DVD). And when you consider that Blu ray players are in the minority in terms of how many are currently owned, of course the market share was going to drop. But as I said, look at the DVD drops lately as well. And the thing is, even digital download only has .06 market share, so it's not like you can say "digital download is to blame". The bottom line is there is nothing worth buying right now.

When Dark Knight, Iron man, and Incredible Hulk all come out, you will see another Blu ray market share rise. The market will rise and fall based on that is available to the customer. Slowly as more and more people get blu ray the market share will rise steadily regardless of what comes out. And that's because it will slowly become commonplace.

Just look at DVD and how long it took for that to overtake VHS. Overall, people are moving from DVD to Blu ray faster than they moved from VHS to DVD

TapiocaMilkTea6434d ago

It's just a matter of time before Bluray becomes the standard, what other choice is there for hidef? unless something even better comes along but it has to be something very different and very revolutionary, otherwise it won't overtake BD that easily if it took BD that long to get people's attention.
It does not make sense that people will stay with DVD forever.....

stonedog6434d ago

there is no real reason to replace your DVD collection with Blu-ray the difference is not that substantial. I have not been purchasing Blu-ray movies b/c I do not feel that the format justifies the premium price. I will wait as the prices will drop over time. I agree that sales will spike with new movies coming to the DVD & Blu-ray format. But the reality is that DVD sales have been declining b/c people have generally re-purchased their collection. As such the studios have harvested the low hanging fruit and the only way to make money is to provide new content. The hope of the movie industry was that the market would buy everything all over again. While a minority will do this the majority will not especially when there is up-scaling DVD players reduce the diffence further.

So yes Blu-ray won the war but it has yet to win the peace and DVD is stronger competion for Blu-ray than VHS was for DVD. All will be revealed in the fullness of time.

tuaamin136434d ago

is that Bluray players can not only play DVDs, but they upscale them too. This makes it more appealing because I can buy a Bluray player and not have to replace my existing collection, as all these people like to claim. I can also buy the movies I'd like in the best quality on Bluray (Transformers, Iron Man, Batman), but get the stuff I'd like to watch anywhere (or not so great movies, but still worth watching once in a while) on DVD since 1) they're cheap, and 2) they do play anywhere.

It's nice having both formats.

It'd be great if Bluray prices decreased, so you don't have to wait for Amazon to run BOGO, but prices aren't that terrible. It'd also be pretty sweet if you got a DVD copy thrown in too. Make the disc set $35, but give me the $10 DVD in it too. That way I get the best of both worlds. The DVD would only have the movie, and for the best PQ and sound, along with all the extras, I'd watch the Blu version.

orakga6433d ago

People claim that there is not a big enough difference between DVDs and BD. Nearly all wives (of my friends) that I've met have said the same thing early on.

Now they deny ever having said that.

It's only a matter of time before we look back at these posts and laugh at people who claim that "DVDs look almost as good as BD, especially when upscaled". (note: BDs will eventually become upscaled too, once higher-def TVs come out in 2015 and later)

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Grassroots6434d ago

I see more and more people holding blus in store over time. Yes slow but heck dvd wasn't that fast at gaining it in the first few years. We will see in time though who knows with the economy the way it is at the moment.

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Final Fantasy X 25th Anniversary Website Launches With New Nomura Artwork and Merchandise

Square Enix launches Final Fantasy X 25th anniversary site, revealing new Nomura art, books, music releases, and merchandise.

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-Foxtrot12d ago

Look I know VIII has its issues and all that but how on earth can the do big anniversary events with new artwork and merchandise for VII, IX and X yet VIII got sweet f*** all.

They could have given it something during its 25th anniversary yet all it got was a single Happy Anniversary post on their social media.

solideagle12d ago

they should know that we are OG fans of VIII as it sold truckload as well. not as much as VII or X. I personally didn't like IX but X and VI are my personal fav.

Shadow Hearts 2 covenant is another game I love. I hope one day someone can make remake, I would be delighted

Relientk7711d ago

Final Fantasy VIII is great and you are always the first to defend it in the comments

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15 Years Ago, Mortal Kombat (2011) Saved Gaming’s Biggest Fighting Franchise

A brutal reset, a smarter story, and a return to what made it great—Mortal Kombat (2011) revived the series.

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italiangamer20d ago

"Gaming’s Biggest Fighting Franchise"

Press X to (seriously) doubt.

DarXyde18d ago

Underrated comment. I used to hate that game so much that any time my siblings asked me to play it, I just picked Hom and shut myself down mid-match.

Soy19d ago

And then MK1 killed it again.

DivineHand12518d ago (Edited 18d ago )

15 years went by so fast. I remember playing through the story mode at launch.

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PlayStation legend Shuhei Yoshida says Jim Ryan fired him because he didn't listen to him

Why did Sony push Shuhei Yoshida out of his role leading PlayStation's first-party games? He'd overseen some huge successes. Well, apparently, he didn't listen.

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Relientk7720d ago

Yeah I can see that for sure. Shuhei Yoshida should have been in charge not Jim Ryan.

Cacabunga20d ago

It should be free highway for him now.. but Sony are too stupid to see this, especially that moron Hulst

S2Killinit20d ago (Edited 20d ago )

Wtf why all that anger. PlayStation is dominating on every level. Besides I think there is a little more to hiring a CEO than just who is available. Its not like its a athlete your team wants to buy.

neutralgamer199219d ago

S2Killinit

live service failures, chasing trends, closing studios. yes dominating

Cacabunga19d ago

Sony is Dominating because competition is not existing. Compared to previous gens this is the poorest in terms of software offerings.

Last gen we got Uncharted 4 Lost Legacy and TLOU2 from ND alone.

This is so far a remasters gen, with no competition to lift up the quality

1nsomniac19d ago (Edited 19d ago )

..."PlayStation is dominating on every level"....

...Really???

PlayStation are soon heading into a new generation in the not to distant future. They currently have the worst customer satisfaction they've ever sustained as a company. The company is heading for a huge crash while at the same time they'll need to be planning how they are going to try and win back that favour and the build up to their new releases.

Yes financially they're winning but they're going to have to ride out this complete public corporate disaster. No one has faith in the company or the product anymore. They've damaged their public image so much this generation. Greed can kill anyone.

medman19d ago

Hulst is a disaster......

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blacktiger19d ago

He would've done the same thing and fire Jim Ryan and Shuhei would be the villain. Why?
Because Elite creates the narrative and distraction for gamers, users and citizens.

Outside_ofthe_Box20d ago

More confirmation that Jim Ryan is the culprit for what has happened to Sony. Hulst needs to go too. What sucks is that a lot of the good top heads at Sony are no longer there. I wish that guys that were forced out prematurely by Dumbo Jimbo like Shuhei and Layden came back.

robtion19d ago

Yep. Yoshida was responsible for bringing one of the best games of this generation to playstation (Stellar Blade). He is an actual gamer and is in touch with what gamers want (creative, fun games, not GaaS and agenda pushing). He also seems like a genuinely nice guy if you watch some interviews. Of course they got rid of him.

darthv7220d ago

Makes you wonder if MS even thought about hiring him after Phil and Sarah were leaving. He certainly couldn't make their situation any worse.

Agent7520d ago

Microflop. After Windows XP and Xbox 360, it all went floppy.

S2Killinit20d ago

Floppy 😆
No pun intended

badz14920d ago

Yoshida for President! Jim Ryan was and always be a hack! Sony should get Shu back

Lightning7720d ago

All the gamer/consumer lead heads are gone across PS and Xbox. shuhei gone phil's gone (questionable) but gone. The future of gaming is somewhat uncertain across the board.

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