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Why The Gaming Industry Wouldn't Be The Same Without Console Wars

Console wars encourage companies to take risks. Taking big risks doesn’t always pay off. Just ask Nintendo and their infamous Virtual Boy or Sega and the ill-fated Dreamcast, which failed to sell well enough to keep the veteran Japanese in the console race.

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FallenAngel19843296d ago

What industry doesn't have its "wars"

ApocalypseShadow3296d ago

And that's what it's about: competition that leads to more quality games, more innovation and hopefully, better benefits for the gamer. So that you can have more FUN by yourself or with others. And the console industry can grow from that. That should be for every console generation.

Poorly made games,lack of risk taking, removal or blocking of benefits or expensive prices isn't fun. Opinions go back and forth on what system is better. Which may lead some to fanboyism. But there is something right about being an informed consumer and voicing an opinion as long as it doesn't overstep on someone else's fun.

No gamer should tell another gamer what console or game they should or shouldn't play. If you like something, enjoy it. But it should be okay to voice an opinion that effects all gamers during each competition. Gamers voiced their opinion that having only one football game leads to lack of competition, innovation, variety of options which is less fun for everybody. You may like Madden for example. But supporting it and EA has lead to less fun for everyone else who liked blitz, nfl2k, tecmo bowl, etc.

Gamers like myself voiced opinions on the negative effect of micro transactions, dlc, paying for online, season passes,etc. There's positive things that have come from them. Who wouldn't want more content for their favorite game. Or a service that connects everyone to play together without running to the arcade. But if you're not seeing it from the other side, that becomes fanboyism.

Each company has had their time of being arrogant like Nintendo was during the nes days. Or Sony during the PS3 launch timeframe. Or Microsoft during the 360 era. But, whoever you decide to support, you should be looking at how your consumer spending effects all gamers and if it's right to buy into it.

During any "console war" which is just a competition, any comment, policy, strategy and decision should be looked at closely and judged on if it benefits all gamers or negativity effects all gamers. They're all in it to make money. But you, the consumer,should be more informed and not just blindly follow whoever or whatever you support with your dollars. Having an opinion towards a buying decision is not hate or fanboyism unless it's constant and not FACTUAL. It's questioning if it's good for the industry and for all gamers during any "console war."

freshslicepizza3295d ago (Edited 3295d ago )

Sure, and 'most' people are able to move on and give a rational opinion in the product given at the time. Not carrying baggage for years and bringing them into discussion like RRoD or always online or rootkits and disc read error lawsuits from the past.

Once you view a product as a company behind it then it leads to non productive console wars. The product should be criticized or praised for what it offers, not for the history of that company.

Since when do console wars help when it becomes GT is a great game or Forza is but not the other because I have aligned myself with a brand rather than viewing it as a game?

ApocalypseShadow3295d ago (Edited 3295d ago )

And that's being uninformed. Let's say a company made a racist game. Do you blindly buy it or should you be more informed on who you're buying from? What if a game puts down a gender, culture, religion? Should you buy it? What if the company is known for previous substandard products, do you not take that into consideration for their next product release? Sure you do. You don't throw history out because it will end up repeating. Know who you are buying from. That's for any product that's sold.

As an example, I used EA as they are known for killing competition or buying their competition. It wasn't because they made a great game of football. NFL 2K was great too. NBA2K is a great game. But Visual Concepts didn't try to buy up the NBA license. They let the game speak for itself. Which beat NBA live in quality. If Take two didn't buy the baseball license and let anyone use it, I'd bet that EA would have tried to buy it. Funny thing is that Sony ended up with the better baseball game than Take two. Competition is about being the better product for the market you're targeting. Not monopolizing the market.

You mentioned RROD or disc read error. If consumers don't know what's going on with the products they buy, it allows companies to get away with low quality products in the future. The results from consumer outcry in the past has lead to better made products. PS4 and Xbox one are better made consoles compared to their previous consoles. That benefits gamers. And I've mentioned many times that Xbox one is well made and props to Microsoft for that.

Both car games are good. Doesn't mean Forza isn't trying to muscle in on what GT created for consoles. There's room for both to exist. Strange thing about that competition is that Polyphony tries to make a better game than the previous one. Doesn't seem like they care what Turn 10 does with their game. Never even mentions Turn 10. While Turn 10 is trying to be a better GT or overshadow GT. Always mentions arrogantly that they took the throne or Polyphony has past the baton. While Playground is just trying to and achieved in making a great arcade racing game with Horizon without dogging anybody. Point being is just to make a great game. Being better will speak for itself.

It's like an athlete. Athletes try to best their own times. Beating someone else in a competition is just a side effect. Console manufactures should just make great consoles. Beating the competition is just a side effect. Yes it's creates fans on each side, but as I said, no one should say another system sucks. But you can voice an opinion that it could be better if it's lacking in areas or there are policies that has and will effect others. When you see policies you don't agree with, you make your voice heard.

freshslicepizza3295d ago (Edited 3295d ago )

Nobody is talking about making a company responsible AT THE TIME. Microsoft was called out for it's shoddy product and had to do something about it. Now the Xbox One is built like a tank, literally. See, it all goes above your head because your can't let this go. I bought a PS3 knowing the troubles I had with the PS2. Educating myself is by waiting, not by holding out an entire generation because of a previous generation.

Madden is a great game some years and yes I was a huge fan of 2K but I base my support in the product given to me. I don't amalgamate all their games into one like so many seem to with then and Ubisoft. I can relate to those who don't want to support Madden because yes, that is holding back true competition for any other NFL game.

The whole GT versus Forza is great to push each other to produce a better product. My issue is will those who blindly support one because they aligned themselves behind the hardware maker and not the developers. That type of fanboyism isn't what the industry needs. I can appreciate both games. Your whole attitude is proof that you are still caught up in the whole company backng. Both try to make a better product, what a dumb assessment on your part to think one isn't trying. If anything GT had been the one riding more on its name and reviews show that since GT3. Forza 5 was a rush job to meet the console launch. GT6 was more of a refinement of GT5.

You have way too much baggage to ever have a rational discussion .

stuna13295d ago

Whether people realize it Console Wars drive the market! And yes to an extent fanboys do as well.

They provide the necessary incentive whether true or false for others to strive to outdo or compete with those who they feel or view have lesser tastes than their own! Their preferences spark conversations as well as arguments that change perception and views of other individuals to either align or totally go against their own views of whatever object they're discussing. That is the power of not only someones opinion, but the persuasive nature of word of mouth!

The companies use tactics directly related to the terms fanboys and console wars to not only advertise but to sell their products! The majority of times that product is nowhere near what it's advertised or marketed to be. That is where fanboys or even just fans come into the equation. They change the perception of the product by introducing the idea that the product is capable of more than it actually is!

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Top Racers Need Top Gear – Introducing the Forza Horizon 6 Limited Edition Controller and Headset

Omar writes: "With the Horizon Festival coming to breathtaking Japan, you’ll need the essential gear to prove you’ve got what it takes to become a Horizon Legend as you cruise, drift and explore an open world full of spectacular driving experiences. That’s why we’re happy to announce the newest Limited Edition Xbox Wireless Controller and Wireless Headset collection, featuring inspired designs from Forza Horizon 6. The bright cyan and lime colorways celebrate the Horizon Festival’s recognition of iconic cars and hit music, with special features that are sure to impress any collector."

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Killer2020UK36d ago

Oh my, that is one gaudy design

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"It's Just So Lame" - RTGI Modder Thinks DLSS 5 Is Impressive But Shares AI Slop Sentiment

Pascal Gilcher calls DLSS 5 impressive but shares the "AI slop" sentiment, explaining the likely tech behind it and why he dislikes it.

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CrimsonWing6962d ago

I fail to see how this is AI shhhhlllloooop. Looking at the different games they showed, this has made many of them look far better.

isarai_lee62d ago (Edited 62d ago )

It's AI slop because it ignores the artists intent and changes the details ESPECIALLY when it comes to character faces. The scariest part of it is introducing it as the next stage of DLSS, a feature where the current iteration already has controversy surrounding it and for quite a lot of games cannot be fully disabled. So reasonably the precident is already set for what path this could take, and it's not good

blacktiger62d ago

In case you didn't watch the video then let me point just one part. It overrides the lighting. Then the question of what is the point of ray tracing cost and so on. Many of the lighting deletes shadow, including shadow on the face like eyes even chin.

Chard62d ago

Why stop at art when it comes to human input - why not just have AI play the game for us, remove human input altogether

theshizer62d ago

If you don’t like it, just don’t enable it. Personally I think it looks great from the videos I have seen.

isarai_lee62d ago

And what about when you can't? Cause there's plenty of games where you cannot fully disable dlss already, i mean we're well into an era where it's a major crutch for developers to cover up their cut corners, why would this be any different?

blacktiger62d ago

You are playing with people's money and allow Nvidia to scam you.

In case you didn't watch the video then let me point just one part. It overrides the lighting. Then the question of what is the point of ray tracing cost. This is all lie to raise the cost of the graphic card.

Andrew33662d ago

Making characters look more realistic not ok because we want the developer to decide on how the game was intended to look. - Internet

Change entire game through mods thus changing how the developers intended the game to be is ok. - Internet

isarai_lee62d ago

Something consumers can do to a product after they have purchased it, entirely optional and can always be undone with a fresh install

VS

The leading gaming hardware manufacturer making this the next iteration of the main AA/Upscaling technique that is heavily relied upod by modern devs and is not optional in most games.

Not at all the same but nice try

jwillj2k462d ago

At the moment you need 2 5090’s just to get an image on the screen so this is all vaporware until proven otherwise.

Andrew33662d ago

The good news is you can just not use it as well.

Christopher62d ago

It's all about choice in the end. But, I would say that calling it 'more realistic' is quite a stretch. It looks like AI art, and that's rarely realistic.

Urrakia3462d ago

All the comments I see are reminding me of how we got to the current state of gaming when microtransactions were first introduced: "It's completely optional guys, we promise! If you don't like it just don't buy it!"

I think we all know how that ended up.

Popsicle62d ago (Edited 62d ago )

I had the same exact thought the first time this was brought up in a separate article about a week ago. Took me straight back to the conversations surrounding “horse armor.” Just don’t buy it they said. Years later, many IPs I previously enjoyed are so infected with monetization schemes that I don’t even consider purchasing them anymore.

DLSS 5 and the like are the same thing wrapped in a different package. History rhymes but many of us never learn from it.

blacktiger62d ago

Biggest Scam. Overrides lighting and shadow. So why keep Ray tracing? It's all a scam to raise graphic card. We now see Nvidia with Microsoft downturn anything against them. Sony is next!