I understand what you're saying but I don't think you really fully recognized that all you're actually describing is the same technological advancement that's always happen with the portable.

So yes by the time in the next 5 to 10 years that we have 4K 60 frames on a portable ,so do you seriously think there will be 0 Advancement with PC and console gaming?

They're always going to be behind traditional console there's never going to be a concept that is simply just "good enough" for all gaming.

I mean simply look back in 2004 with the PSP , so yes you could play Persona 3 God of War Grand Theft Auto games in a whole bunch of console quality games for that period and time on the PSP it doesn't actually mean everybody's just going to stay behind for several Generations to play a portable..

Outside of the little world of the PSP it is clear that a PlayStation 3 will exist a 360 will exist a PlayStation 4 will come out exedra.

So when you're describing this 4K 60 frame handheld that's no different than describing the 1080p 60 frame handheld you're talking about right now those specs are not that interesting when you're looking at the PlayStation 4 Pro for Scorpio... Heck id argue those specs are not that interesting when you're simply just were guarding Wii U games..., Take this for consideration consider Wipeout HD was running that exact same thing almost 10 years ago on the PlayStation 3....

Yet when that magical 4K 60 frames per second handheld releases , you seriously don't think we're going to be having 8K or even 16k machines?

They're always going to be behind but what you have to understand is your still describing the exact same scenario that is always existed for Portables since they've come on the market.

Your amazement that the Gameboy Advance is playing a Super Nintendo game if not going to essentially erase that the PlayStation 1 and N64 exist...

It's always going to be that sort of loop.

So I would have to respectfully disagree with that it would actually be a bad time regardless for them to do something like that cuz what you're advising them to do is to make a dated machine and hold back the entire industry.

I mean for god sakes that's like telling them to basically make a 1080p 60 frames per second PlayStation 5...

No.

So you seriously think Sony's going to exit the Home console Market to make a damn portable that runs those stupid settings all while Microsoft capitalizes and comes out with a monster machine?

Lol

To think Sony's Just going to ask Microsoft to be kind and do the same thing? Because of what the Home console Market is I'm sorry but you're never going to see either of these companies exit that market to do such a concept especially if you factor they could already do both simply because what you're describing is just a portable....

you could simply just make your theory about another PSP....

So will they make a portable like a new PSP that does that and include the Cradle packaged in? I don't see why not they've already released the Cradle before anyway....

Sony has no reason to exit the Home console Market meaning that you're unlikely going to see them go hybrid only or anything like that as much as you're just go to see them add the attachment that they've already released for the PSP in 2009 with an upgraded version....

I mean for god sakes that's actually what you're describing 😂😂😂

@_-EDMIX-_,

"I understand what you're saying"

No, you don't.

I never said anything about a 4K 60fps hybrid and yet you go on to say "you're describing this 4K 60 frame handheld", which I am not talking about and never once mentioned. I also said nothing about anyone leaving the home console market. Nor did I say anything about a PS5. I said 5-10 years out. In ten years it's fairly likely the console generation after this one will have come and be on its way out the door.

And thus you continue your habit of replying to my comments and making up things I said, which seems to be a hobby of yours.

What I said is that it's conceivable that when a home console can run games in native 4K 60fps, a hybrid could be made that runs the exact same games in 1080p 30fps (which is a perfectly acceptable resolution for a screen that likely wouldn't even be 6"). Therefore, Sony, Microsoft, or Nintendo could conceivably release a home console that plays games at 4K 60fps and simultaneously release a handheld that outs to the TV and runs the same games, but only at 1080p 30fps. The people that wanted the hybrid could buy the handheld console, those that want a home console with better specs could buy the home console, and someone that wants the portability and the better graphics could buy both and play the same games on either one.

The reason this wasn't possible in the past is because there's a significantly larger power jump required to go from 1080p to 4K than there was to go from 480p to 1080p. Right now you can spend less than $150 to get a GPU that runs games on ultra in 60fps, but to run the same games on ultra in 60fps in 4K requires a graphics card that costs almost $600, and even then you will often get lower FPS.

There's also the issue of getting the games to consumers. Currently a handheld can't use a disk drive and can't fit a hard drive large enough to download or install games. 5-10 years down the line we should either be able to fit enough storage on a handheld, or disks will no longer be used for games and cartridges will be cheap enough and fast enough to have replaced them.

Do I think gaming will go in that direction, with simultaneous a handheld release and home console release that play the same games at different resolutions and settings? Not necessarily, but it is certainly one direction gaming could go.

Nowhere did I say to replace their console business. But if in a couple years Sony released a PS4 Portable, I would buy it.

bro you write weak like its ps1 graphics on the switch......games look great on it for a handheld.....you crazy to make it seem like its the worse looking handheld graphics

@Gremmol
"games look great on it for a handheld"
but Nintendo si marketing the Switch as a home console, and thats the issue. they are selling it as a hom console, those who own it see it as a handheld plus home, those who dont own it are seeing it as a weak ass home console. im not spending 500$ for a console with specs from 4 years ago

i would get it to go with my switch

* * * "then release the next PSP3(lol Vita 2) as a powerful handheld in just add the Cradle attachment" * * *

This.

Sony should release PS5 as a traditional home console. And then release a Vita successor that is a Switch style hybrid. ALL portable consoles should be hybrids going forward.

@_-EDMIX-_,

There's a few issues with what you're saying.

You say that Nintendo is the ones that needed to throw a hail mary and exit the home console market because of their poor market share, yet then go on to say Sony should release a handheld device, which is an area where they hold a small portion of the market share. It doesn't make sense to say Nintendo should leave the home console market due to poor market share, but Sony should release a new handheld.

Other than that, I've heard you say plenty of times that Nintendo can't afford to announce another handheld because they need to focus their development on one platform. That's something I totally agree with. With games taking longer to develop it's becoming harder and harder to support two different consoles at the same time. I would like Sony to release another handheld to see what it would be like and to encourage competition, however at the same time I don't think it would be wise because it would require moving development studios away from the PS4 and eventual PS5. As it is, Sony utterly and completely stopped developing games for the Vita after 3 years. All studios working on Vita games were either closed, parted ways with Sony, or moved to PS4 projects. Considering games take time to develop that means they must have stopped starting new Vita projects after just a couple years. Now I don't particularly blame them as it's certainly helped with the success of the PS4, but I think it's an excellent example of the inability to support a handheld and a home console at the same time in today's industry. Nintendo ran into the same issue with the Wii U (along with plenty of other problems), but it was their home console that hit the chopping block rather than their handheld.

@10-"You say that Nintendo is the ones that needed to throw a hail mary and exit the home console market because of their poor market share, yet then go on to say Sony should release a handheld device"

I'm actually simply responding to the article with a hypothetical , I'm actually not advising that they do that, I'm simply saying what they would likely do if they considered a portable.

This is just speculation.

I definitely want Nintendo to focus on one platform because I believe they're the most dominant in the portable market and they need to reaffirm that on the switch.

I actually think it's a good idea for Stony to stay away from the portable Market not after 14 million Vitas although I would like them to come back I understand it's on an extremely great risk.

Don't get me wrong I like the company they just don't have a lot of properties that translate well into a portable you have to consider that some of the best PSP games I would argue are not even Sonys with Grand Theft Auto Kingdom Hearts Metal Gear Solid Final Fantasy Crisis Core etc

I definitely 100% agree with your assessment of how Nintendo and Sony we're dealing with having two platforms they just do not have the ability to work on 2 markets well and I actually believe that the Switch is the best of both worlds for that company as it's best to have the option to play on the television for those Wii U hardcore with the primary base is likely going to be portable.

That's why I believe Nintendo could get away with having a portable that plays on a television more so than Sony can their base just could not really be portable in any respect (ie PS Vita sales) because of the limitation they're going to have against competition like Microsoft.

I think Nintendo could survive with just a portable that plays off the television simply because I believe the majority of their fans will not mind.

I just don't believe that the hardcore PlayStation fanbase would be able to survive as such a shift especially when you look at the Vita sales the just absolute majority are just Gamers looking for the top-of-the-line hardcore Home console.

These declines are on the back of extra revenue received from releasing games like Forza horizon 5 on PlayStation. So I’m being sarcastic here when I said they should go back to exclusives. Killing off a revenue stream from Ps5 sales will only make things worse