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Based on what we've seen the performance with this CPU is pretty good. You can't look at configuration from the perspective of a PC part.

Price.

Because it wasn't necessary to upgrade the CPU's.

People are too hung up on the consoles CPU power. But the CPU isn't even a bottleneck in the stock consoles that started this generation.

If a dev decides to be CPU heavy with their games, then it could be a problem, but neither the PS4 or X1 are designed to have their games designed around CPU intensive tasks. Every developer white paper strongly states that offloading to GPU is the preferred method to maximize performance.

Quite seriously, outside of one game that was sloppily done, how many games this gen have people complained about CPU performance? There aren't any....because the CPU isn't a problem.

Old sub 4k resolutions

People are just upset it's not as much of a mediocre CPU upgrade as the PS4 Pro was and haters got to hate on something.

Kind of shows they start their interviews and articles hoping to come to a forgone conclusion don't ya think?

Oh a bitter troll...Stop eating such bitter food troll...you won't be so bitter.

Dont wake the hive!

Scorpio will be the place to play multiplats regardless of what the majority of N4G want to believe

you have a year and a half to boast about multiplats

then what, back to the power of the cloud, wait till e3, wait till halo, wait till directx 13, wait till scorpio 2

Mediocre as well. The CPUs this gen aren't great.

jaguar was mediocre even on the og 8th gen consoles lol. It was always mediocre, but it works and is cheap.

Not much if anything to worry about..The Scorpio looks to be made to do everything reported on. The CPU by todays standards, on paper is a bit under powered, but not by much when it comes down to it...Add the optimization of DX12 along with a well designed console with everything working with seamlessly with everything else and you literally have a powerhouse..IF MS brings the Scorpio in at $449 to $499 along with some new IP's and maybe more PC ports it is going to sell very well!

Bandwidth mostly. it's a low power mobile CPU not meant for sustained heavy loads.

As far as the difference between a gaming CPU....by which I assume you mean on PC....it's mostly in how well the CPU can handle multiple processes which are not always related to the game at hand. There is no such thing as a gaming CPU, but more standard CPU designs tend to be able to handle more data at a time than one like the Jaguar.

As far as the Jaguar being weak. It's not. At least not for the consoles. People who keep harping on it don't have any clue just how the CPU's are utilized in consoles, and assume that a "weak" CPU means that it will hold things back in the actual game, when in fact it doesn't, because the consoles aren't designed to use the CPU in the same way that you'd expect from a PC setup. In fact, it's discouraged to do so, because GPU compute is much more efficient for most of the stuff used in modern game designs. The consoles themselves are actually designed to expect developers to offload the majority of it's tasks onto the GPU.

Best way to think of it is that there has only been one game this gen where CPU was an issue. One of the assassins creed's games. And that was just sloppy design, and actually more of a problem on the PS4 where it had a slower clock speed. These are from the stock consoles of this gen. So I'm not sure why all of a sudden people are worried about the CPU itself. It hasn't been a concern up to now, so there is no reason to think that a better and more powerful version of said CPU in Scorpio will suddenly be a problem. For the most part, MS other modifications to the overall system design will more than make up for whatever limitation people feel exist in the CPU's this gen.

CPU hasn't been a concern this gen as far as I can tell. I'm at a loss why all of a sudden a more powerful version of what we already have is suddenly seen as mediocre and incapable of handling whatever games are being built for it.

This whole debate over the CPU has become one of the most rediculous things in the console war, because it seems like it's the only thing people can latch onto to try and downplay the specs of the Scorpio.

I haven't seen a single person be able to say why the stock versions of this gens CPU's are insufficient for the games we're getting....much less the Scorpio's more powerful version of it.

Also, from what I've seen so far, the overall system design is quite well done, and more than makes up for whatever CPU shortcomings may exist....particularly if the games are built around GPU compute the way MS intends it to be done....which is how developers currently do it.

Basically, Scorpio is indeed a very nice piece of kit....and I speak based on what I've seen from working for tools for the system in my work. No matter how I may feel about MS, they designed what is probably one of the most elegently designed pieces of console kit in history.

That being said, the Stardock guy is getting annoying. He's a PC dev. While he's certainly knowledgeable about computer engineering, he speaks in way too general terms, and from the interviews, it actually seems like he isn't even aware of any of the common dev whitepapers or design specs of the system with any practical knowledge of actually utilizing it on a daily basis. It seems all his comments are based on how it compares to PC, and comparing PC and consoles isn't always apt.

Outdated?... yet just about every dev who has seen it and commented about it is loving it...Stop trolling.

Why's that?

Why is Ryzen's x86 better than Jaguar's x86?

Do you even know the difference between different classes of CPU's to be able to qualify your statement?

What would Ryzen bring to the table that can't be achieved with a standard Jaguar....which uses the same instruction set?

How would Ryzen improve on games nowadays given current game designs?

And mostly, at what point in this generation, has the Jaguar CPU been a problem to date? If the stock systems that started this gen were perfectly fine with the CPU, why is a more powerful version of the same processor now outdated?

And lastly, how is Jaguar outdated when what's replacing it isn't even out yet....in other words, Ryzen isn't even dated.

I'm dying to know all these answers....because to date, I haven't seen a single person explain why the CPU's are a problem, or even show a cursory knowledge on the differences between different generations of CPU's.

No future games in the works? Why bother even posting when all that comes out is BS?

Same can be said with every single PC and pS4 game.