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Project Scorpio: Xbox chief on Microsoft's plans for console domination

In an exclusive interview, head of Xbox Phil Spencer explains the vision behind Project Scorpio and what it adds to the Xbox One generation

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Gaming_Cousin3321d ago ShowReplies(9)
KingKionic 3321d ago

“When developers come into the labs and port their engines over to Scorpio, we say, ‘Hey, start with your high-end PC settings, and then see what happens’. We’ve been really pleasantly surprised by the results, because you don’t know what’s gonna happen when you start running third-party engines.”

Lol damn bring on E3.

Lets get it.

Bigpappy3320d ago

This is almost crazy. I can believe what M$ is about to drop here. Post E3 looks to set the internet on fire. If M$ could pull off these types of results with relatively low spec hardware, this could be a major shift in the PC industry. This is all about efficiency and core management.

I am almost nervous to see all those 4K games at E3. I have heard about at least 6 third party games @Native 4K so far. This console is exciting to watch unfold.

TheCommentator3320d ago

Scorpio is going to stupefy so many people around here with it's "plain old, underpowered Jag processors" running 3rd party 4k games with no problems at all. Plus, it's so simple to get an XB1 game up to native 4K that it only took one guy 2 days to do it. I wouldn't be surprised to see any game that already has 4K assets on PC get an upgrade since it can't cost more than a few hours worth of dev time to do it.

Godmars2903320d ago

Its still MS asking 3rd parties to do things for their system, not showing what can be done with it like Sony and Nintendo do.

TheCommentator3320d ago

@ Godmars

How is it that MS is asking 3rd parties do do things for their system?
How is having shown Forza 6 not considered showing what can be done already?
Can't you understand that MS is also going to be showing what the system can do at E3?

Godmars2903320d ago

MS is asking 3rd party devs to bring games by saying they'll run as well on Xbox brand consoles. Have been saying that since coming into the console market.

As for showing something at E3 - of course they have to show something - *ITS E3*! The question is will what they show largely be CG or only CG.

And aren't they on Forza 7? Isn't that a racing game? Sony showed off the latest GT but that's also a racing game and not really worth bringing up in regards to showing off a system. When it was shown off on the PS2 back in the day maybe, but even then that was only about GT and not the PS2. How about a Halo title that plays like Uncharted.

An Uncharted-like title set in the Halo Universe? Something like that would certainly get me excited.

Also, what was cloud servers suppose to do for the XB1? In light it doing little more than light duty so far while waiting for CR3 to get a release date, has MS made mention of anything regarding it and the Scorpio? Any other game it was suppose to help make games easier to make?

FinalFantasyFanatic3319d ago

It's not as if the Xone set the bar very high, since Xone games should run fine on a budget PC, so they should have little trouble porting old games to 4K.

Angeljuice3319d ago

If Microsoft want to dominate the console market they need a massive and fundamental change in their attitude, not just a powerful system.

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XiNatsuDragnel3321d ago

Console domination....Is a overstatement don't get too hyped Phil just plan to be revelant to gamers first.

Bigpappy3320d ago

That wasn't from Phil. He never said that.

XiNatsuDragnel3320d ago

Who did because that's way too ignorant

XanderZane3320d ago

Exactly. "The Guardian" just put that shit in their title to get clicks. Phil doesn't mention "console domination" at all in the whole interview. Total click bait BS.

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slate913320d ago (Edited 3320d ago )

Dont fall victim to the flame bait headlines. #readthearticles2017

XiNatsuDragnel3320d ago (Edited 3320d ago )

True but headlines that clickbaity shouldn't say that.

@OverSensitiveGeneration.

EatCrow3320d ago

Its not oversensitive generation.
The point is: read before you write.

Thats the opposite stance of this generation actually. Reading Headlines instead of stories and researching.

spicelicka3320d ago

That is the author's headline to fish out people like you, not from Phil.

"Phil just plan to be revelant to gamers first"

That's also ironically ignorant, considering you're here commenting about him.

XiNatsuDragnel3320d ago

Yes talking about him and his plans in order to be successful you need to be revelant

Angeljuice3319d ago

It's not really clickbait as the Guardian is a well respected newspaper, it's more that they aren't that knowledgeable on the subject.
Their key demographic is highly educated middle class people, not gamers at all. This article isn't meant for dedicated gamers.

JasonKCK3320d ago

XiNatsuDragnel proof once again you can't get past the title.

XiNatsuDragnel3320d ago

Lol this prove you can't deduce from text, or read context

vegasgamerdawg3319d ago

Because reading the article is hard...

XiNatsuDragnel3319d ago

Interpretation from the lines is difficult as well....

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Shadyceaser3321d ago

I don't want anyone to dominate as the one who dominates gets lazy ..... Competition keeps gaming affordable for most ... Look at MS this time around they are trying very hard to claw back market share thanks to Sony giving them a spanking ... 😃

Godmars2903320d ago

Its that domination is a thing earned not given that's the problem. MS came in proclaiming they'd dominate the console market just like they did PC OS, but even Windows position was earned by may of DOS, which ironically was given to them via IBM.

JasonKCK3319d ago

Godmars290 MS bought DOS from Tim Paterson

Soc53320d ago

I would say they did a good job spanking themselves.

FinalFantasyFanatic3319d ago

Competition is best, it stops stagnation, look at AMD VS Intel/Nvidia, we went without competition in the CPU/GPU sector for so long and now interesting things are starting to happen.

stuna13320d ago

Yeah isn't this a repeat of what they said post 2013?

Fishy Fingers3320d ago

It's a repeat of people failing to read more than a headline...

The twitter generation....

Death3320d ago

This is pretty similar to what happened in 2013. People with no time to read an article took misinformation and multiplied it and then went on a rant about terrible things that didn't exist.

Good job.

morganfell3320d ago

"It's a repeat of people failing to read more than a headline... "

Its the failure of supposed gaming sites using hit inducing headlines and some gamers being too smart to give them a click.

rainslacker3319d ago (Edited 3319d ago )

@Fishy

Yeah, it's the readers fault the author used a headline which in absolutely no way conveys the thing that Phil was trying to say.

Oh hey, that's against N4G rules. Ill go ahead and report since no one else will. What Phil says here is good, but I don't believe this kind of poor clickbait mentality should keep on going. It's too obvious that it only hurts any discourse about the topic more than it would be otherwise.

That being said, it's a shame to report it for this, because it's not a bad interview, and outside some hyperbole, is an interesting read, although not terribly informative technically.

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Take-Two CEO Once Again Side Steps Grand Theft Auto 6 Price Point

Strauss Zelnick says price of GTA 6 is being carefully considered and that Rockstar is focused on "making the most spectacular piece of entertainment on Earth."

Kuma32d ago

If GTA 6 abandons everything that made GTA 5 great, it will crash and burn right out of the gate. GTA 5 was funny and not at all PC. My worry is that they will cave to the PC crowd and ruin the vibes.

Eonjay32d ago

They got freaking BBLs twerking on the top of trucks for the gram, the freaking Flordia joker, and dude running down the stree in their undies and you are worried about it being 'too PC'? The internet has runied gamers. It doesn't matter how non-PC they make the game, you will all listen to the grifters telling you not to believe your lying eyes lol.

gigoran832d ago

"Rockstar Games’ co-founder and former VP of Development Jamie King said he envisions GTA 6 as a game that’s “maybe not quite as edgy or quite as funny” as its satirical predecessors."

oh yeah, totally internet grifters spreading rumors...

blacktiger32d ago

That's part of the plan, they destroyed you but they need to destroy the shareholders? Only 1 shre holder is the true elite that don't care

1nsomniac32d ago (Edited 32d ago )

Meh.., if it’s above £55 I ain’t buying it.

Rockstar are genuinely not half the company they used to be. I was a die hard GTA fan I’ve purchased every game and expansion and spin off day 1.

My opinion of GTA6 is that I can take it or leave it. Not bothered. They burnt too many bridges.

DaReapa32d ago (Edited 32d ago )

So they're actually leaving the door open for an L.A. Noire sequel? Nice!

VaNdAl32d ago (Edited 32d ago )

He should just come out and say it already it's getting stupid it's going to be a 100 bucks $200 for the special edition🤡🤡; 29315;🤣♿

Storm2332d ago

I won't be getting this game until I can get it for $70. SHoot, I could wait for it to be even lower. I don't need the game that badly as my backlog is still huge and I am enjoying playing other things.

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Talking Aliens: The Video Games With Author Mike Diver

Skewed and Reviewed have posted an interview with Author Mike Diver about his pending book on Aliens video games.

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Xbox boss: Memory crisis could impact next-gen hardware pricing

Xbox boss Asha Sharma has discussed how component shortages will impact the company's plans for Project Helix.

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Eonjay33d ago

When does this end? Its killing everyone. Consoles and PC. And for what? AI? The benefits of AI are completely outweighed by the negatives. And the government should have never allowed one company to buy up all the RAM.

Lexreborn234d ago

This kind of proves this is an after thought product, most products like this are in r&d 5 years before they start mass producing. So they typically have the cost of components and things worked out long before assembly starts.

This is an assumption still, but I wouldn’t be surprised if project helix is similar to Scalebound,perfect dark and sod3. They had an idea but no actual execution other than concept stage. Being impacted by the ram shortage likely would also put this device 3-4 years out.

I’m not even sure MS has that endurance with Xbox yet

Fishy Fingers34d ago (Edited 34d ago )

I mean.... what?

We're at a point that Samsung wont even provide their own phone department ram because they can sell it at higher prices to 3rd parties (AI). Its more profitable to sell the ram than make their own devices with it.

You think because R&D starts 5 years ago the 3rd party component manufacturers will honour that price? They'll sell it to whomever is paying the most today, not some gentlemens agreement they made years ago. AI farms will buy more volume at higher prices than any console manufacturer will. It'll be the same for Playstation.

Lexreborn233d ago

Contractual agreements are not the same as “gentlemen” agreements. If you think that they work with their distributors a month before production then their entire business model is trash. They work with companies like nvidia constantly for building the graphics cards they need. They work with companies that build motherboards years in advance. This is what proper business planning does.

They are not buying components on a whim like a consumer. So again, considering the ram isn’t a singular module and is integrated into the motherboard I highly doubt they wouldn’t have a final schematic that they are supposed to be building around.

If they are delaying production another 3 years then it’s obvious again this is an after though project and is just trying to be responsive to their bad execution they had the last 14 years.

It also isn’t far fetched to use their failure to produce first party titles the last 7 years including the highly anticipated games I mentioned all being cancelled. That they would continue to you know… lie

Sitdown33d ago

You don't really know how this works huh?

Profchaos34d ago (Edited 34d ago )

Helix is going to be stupidly expensive

Instead of leaning into smarter upscaling techniques they're brute forcing hardware that will cost them dearly and it remains to be seen if it's genuinely going to provide a meaningful differential

I know in the oc.doace people like to brag about not using frame gen or dlss to get to high on a game but for the majority of players they happily use those technologies without a second thought

That's going to be ps6 vs Helix

Eonjay33d ago

Yeah with FSR 5 they should be able to offer a much cheaper version of Helix.

Eonjay33d ago

While this does seem to be the case, I am encouraged by the statement from Microsoft about wanting to provide affordable options. If this means a Series S style Helix, at least there will be something affordable being offered.

XBManiac33d ago

Series S is what has killed Xbox Series so... Will they dare?

blacktiger34d ago

It's called systematic inflationary. Yes we get it Microsoft, keep raising in the name ofall kinds of stuffs

pwnmaster300034d ago

Honestly if there was thing I learned from this generation is that new consoles arnt day one anymore.
I can wait 1-3 years.

DarXyde33d ago

Another important lesson from this generation: while Nintendo showed us that prices don't necessarily need to ever drop, we've now learned that waiting 1-3 years does carry some risk that prices increase. This generation is just bizarre in all the wrong ways.

LucasRuinedChildhood33d ago (Edited 33d ago )

The factors are largely external. Covid and Russia-Ukraine war causing inflation led to the first price increase in 2022.

Then we get Trump's tariffs increasing hardware prices, AI boom causing a RAM crisis, war on Iran causing a worldwide fuel crisis which impacts the cost of everything.

Gaming doesn't exist in a vacuum. The last few years have been a shitshow and lot of it was definitely avoidable.

DarXyde33d ago

LucasRuinedChildhood,

For sure. No disagreement on the external factors doing a lot of this. Where I have to gently push back however is on two fronts:

1. The pandemic definitely caused some issues: asynchronous development was a big issue and really complicated timelines and affected game quality. At the same time, when it comes to price hikes, it's really difficult to know what was genuine necessity and what was taking consumers for a ride. The pandemic brought about "stag-flation" which was increasing prices and stagnant wages, which was a problem caused by supply chain constraints. There was also "Greed-flation", where companies that were slightly affected or had no issues took advantage of the situation and squeezed everyone citing supply chain issues when there were none.

2. It's definitely true that the tariffs, AI boom, and RAM crisis were all things enabled by tech broligarchs throwing money at this caricature of a world leader, one of them being Satya Nadella. I don't think Sony and Nintendo have contributed much to this problem if at all, but Microsoft's Nadella I feel was instrumental in causing every one of those issues. Microsoft as a company contributed to both candidates (though they gave Harris 4x as much if I recall), but Nadella was all in on letting AI run wild. He paid for unregulated AI, and got a war that's not a war (even though Trump called it that at least five times on television) that screwed up helium access. So for me, I feel that one of the players in the gaming industry is a key architect of these issues, and for that reason I struggle a bit to think of it as "external".

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