great ps3 development = better games + less crappy ports and held back(graphically and space-wise) titles.

Bitbag fails as usual

A damn goofy.

Meh. Your analysis would have worked last year. However, console parity is the norm now (seriously, Madden 08 is a dead horse, 09 has achieved parity) for multiplat titles so I don't quite get what your whole point is. Lame.

P.S. Assassin's Creed needed more time in the oven, regardless of the platform; there were framerate hiccups and glitches up the wazoo. Which is why I got the PC version, but that is besides the case.

Fanboy wars start when Torrence submits an article.

I like this recent quote by Kojima...

"The reason I got so frustrated wasn't necessarily about the technology but more about the mentality -- making the impossible possible. If you don't think you can do that, what are you doing making games? If you only do what you think you can do, then you'll work on a normal schedule, using normal technology, and nobody's going to be surprised with the end result. Some of the staff didn't make the big leap that I expected, and that was what I was frustrated with."

I think this is something you see alot from 3rd party developers, or those who don't focus exclusively on one platform. I think ofttimes there's a lack of ambition. Instead of saying "We're going to do this." I think you often have them asking, "What can we do with this?" I don't know if you could really say it's 'laziness', as budgets do have to be factored in as well... but I think so many times 3rd party developers are thinking inside of a box. Their resources are spread out and they're simply aiming to do what's being done instead of going up and beyond the norm. I think you mostly see a vision molded by the technology rather than a vision built upon their imagination.

I believe that's part of the reason that many exclusives (on any console) look better than the lot of multiplatform titles that appear on the said console. You have devs trying to make a block that fits everything instead of constructing a product to the potential of a single platform. That's why I believe that multiplatform games never utilize the full strength of any console, no matter how much they say they are. I sort of look at it like being a gamer. Let's take shooters for example. I can play many shooters and become good at shooters all around. If I've played many, chances are I can pick up another and have more success than someone who rarely plays shooters. However, if I devote myself to a single FPS I can become more skilled at that single game than I ever could be by simply playing a multitude of others. The feats I achieve in that game would most likely eclipse what I could do in others.

I think that in the end only exclusives can show off a system's true power. You can say, we'll never know if this or that could be achieved on another and that is true. We'll never know. To this I say, how does it matter? It doesn't matter if a console CAN do something. What matters is what it DOES do. What it has to showcase... not what it has the believed 'potential' to showcase.

I'm not claiming the superiority of any console over another. I'm simply stating my thoughts on the topic. Though I may be a little off topic in some ways.

Please any who would disagree: voice your reasons with a reply. It will be greatly appreciated.

yet this time he actually jumped out of his cynical, bias, no personality having
self & wrote a " hey guys I think I figured out the real reason" article.

How late is tordavis? You really lag bad. Are you numb? Do you use heavy drugs?
what's the matter? All the big review & observant writers are backing the ps3 & now you want to write
a piece that everybody knows since day one.

You always mention fanboys. Dont you know we love talking crap about the other team stupid. We will say whatever gives us ammo. Do you still believe in the babe ruth curse on the Boston red sox. Tordavis you are
such a waste of time. I agree with your epiffany but you gotta know. The day the first multi-plat game came out for
ps3 us droids had our fingers crossed. Why? Because the multi-plat could have been way better & made xbox360
look like a gameboy or worst because the tech was too exotic. Xbots & droids were left with barely noticable differences. That's what we joke about.

Tordavis, you are stupid to even bring this up to third party devs & you should be thanking them for not completly
letting dvd die so quickly but the next generation has started when Sony says it does.

Bluray check
Software check
online check
digital distribution check
movies check
social network - in beta form

Tordavis I hate you but heres some constructive critisim that
would put you over the rest.
Go & find out what's next from Sony & find out some ideas about the full use of
bluray & the HDd storage. Get info on mag. Start finding new tip & tricks with the ps3
browser & bluray movies. Learn every single comparable device that works with ps3 & make it
easily understandable. When you speak with 3rd party devs ask them about thier interest in making a
full bluray disc. Be ahead of the curve & tell them your psp needs attention & we are waiting for some games to pass the time on. 5 hour games are cool enough. More would be supreme. Dont be another useless toolbox.

Tordavis, grow up & get yourself a hot girlfriend. So you know how to impress people.

Man I'm sick of people trying to pass that lie off. Am I the only one who knows how to Google stuff?

http://www.gamesindustry.bi...

" Sony Computer Entertainment president Ken Kutaragi has claimed that the PlayStation 3 will be capable of running games at an unprecedented 120 frames per second - and suggested that future television technologies will support these refresh rates.

According to Japanese news service Nikkei BP, Kutaragi's comments were made as part of a speech about the PS3 and the Cell processor delivered at the Tokyo International Digital Conference last week.

Kutaragi acknowledged that while there aren't currently any televisions capable of refreshing the screen at a rate of 120 times per second, he wanted the PS3 to be ready to make the best of the new technology when it arrives. "

Note the word "Capable"

Where does it say EVERY game will be 120fps? Where is 1080p even mentioned?

Stop passing misquotes off as facts.

BTW, I'm looking at what Bungie and Epic did with Xbox and its not as impressive as people make out.

Epic made a pretty shooter for the fact they spent 3 to 4 years building the engine first and then a couple years on the game itself. You would hope it looked nice after that. Good for them. They know their stuff. The game is still overatted and generic though.

Bungie, well bungie didn't really do anything this gen. Halo was 4 years in the making before XB1 was even out. It was going to be on PC and Mac at one point with craters appearring when a grenade was thrown and squads to command. See lots of companies asspire to things that dont come to fruition. And then M$ does what it always does. Just buy the talent you need, not create or nuture something themselves. And all Bungie did after that was rinse and repeat. Part 1 is by far the best in the series and even that more than half the levels were just copy and paste of a few interior segments over and over. Only the outdoor levels really stand out. The fact is, while I still think Halo 1 is awesome, it didn't hurt none that XBox1 had no other really good games until Splinter Cell came out, along way down the track. Call me fanboy now, but if you were there you'll remember I'm right.

next-gen for me started with ghost recon advanced warrior, rainbow6vegas & gears of war for xbox360.
the next-next-gen started with the launch of ps3 & all of its exclusives.

This toris guy is an idot. I've never took him serious. He reminds me of someone who would play a themed character at like an Amusment park. Like, maybe a Peter Pan or a Winnie the Poo. I dunno, he always comes off as a deer in the head lights.

That show he's got or pod cast is like root canal. They talk for like 4 hours and it just goes nowhere too many times for me to even care about our final destination.

toris davis, please... don't quit your days job. That being Coffee maker and donut restalker at the local 7-11~

"They told us every game would be 1080p and 120fps.2

Sources please. Where did they say "every" game would be 1080p at 120fps? They only said PS3 could be able to do that, they never even said with Killzone or Uncharted or whatever other game, they simply claimed it was possible for PS3 to output up to those resolutions.

"Kutaragi referenced "4d" when speaking about the system."

And? Dense retards would of course interpret it as "4d visual effects", without taking in account that 4D may just mean time, meaning that games aren't static 3D, but rather, they are dynamic, meaning they change in time, adding a new dimension of gameplay to the game.

My dump has more credibility than Tordavis.

The ps3 is not better than the x360. I think if metal gear was made on 360 it would be better. Same goes for final fantasy. Its just a shame with the 360 arcade. Little big adventure looks more boring than yoshis story and whipeout is a retro. Golden axe looks like a phile of crap.

oh god, whats new.

its not anyones fault but sony's for making it more difficult to dev for.

its not ms's fault for making the 360 so easy to dev on.

its that simple.

Dont make your console hard to code for when the competitions console is very easy to code on. a problem like whats happening will occur, this was known way back then yet sony still decided to go with this exotic cell architecture. So if you want to blame anyone blame sony first.

And i dont know why but I have this crazy feeling that without notice by mid november i feel sony might do a price drop. Sounds crazy I know. what a blow to the elite that would be.

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i guess all those first party games were last gen...

talks about fanboys and how he hates them with a passion...but yet he writes AND posts his articles...that is basically fueling the fanboys...number two he's pretty much blind because he is the same guy that has said mgs4 and uncharted graphics has been seen already or there wasn't nothing special.show me a game or a pic that tops both of those games....if u ever play mgs4 and during a scene you zoom in there is no kinds of tearing or anything of that nature...crisp clean and cut...i just call it like i see it...if u disagree wit me show me a game!!! please i dare u!! i think it's a known facts that ps3 graphics department is just getting started..the ps3 is graphic king right now...call me a fanboy if u want...at the end of the day you've gotta be stupid to turn down a system that gets all the 3rd party games,plus a big line of first party games,also dependable hardware. omg and the quote he says about the 120 fps games!!! this guy is a TOOL!!! yea u are a TOOL...u can make me fanboy of the week i don't care. he always brings this up how Sony said the whole 120fps you can't say they haven't delivered when it's only two years in the consoles life cycle!!! like cmon talk about fanboys!!give me a break. no disrespect to you man not at all but you are very wish washy in the things you say and attack people for being fanboys when your the one who is a fanboy..so you my friend are the fanboy of the week..(longest post of i ever wrote) lol..lets just play our games!!

Why don't these ass clowns just speak the truth...
That's another website i've striked off my list to visit.

Next Gen starts when the next generation of console release.

I dont get why the current gen are still reffered to as "next gen".

PlayStation 3 versions of games can be released on time with other versions if they lead on the PlayStation 3. Since the PlayStation 3 has split memory it would be best to work with the split memory first then move on. Since the XBOX 360 has the shared memory you could just easily use the memory the same on the XBOX 360. This seems like the cause for PlayStation 3 development to hold things back, the split memory.

Plus the architecture is different from the pack and can push HD (High Definition) polygon counts, 60fps, and the nice space on Blu-ray discs can easily be chewed through. That was the problem with the last XBOX the disc format was the same so it never really made an impact having better specs.

"The Next Generation Starts When 3rd Party Devs Start Working Around the PS3rd's Limitations"

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Oh, and,

"Yep, Sony made some big claims a few years ago. They told us every game would be 1080p and 120fps. Kutaragi referenced "4d" when speaking about the system."

LMFAO. POOR DROIDS ^ ^ ^ ^

why would 3rd parties make exlucisve games to ps3, when its cost more to develope and sell less than 360 !!

tordavis your logic has a flaw, saying developers are holding Ps3 and not X360, do you think devs will do 2 deferent version, one (Ps3) is long or better and the other(X360) is short or bad, no body is going to buy 360 version, people will attack the company for doing this, fanboys will start a war, gamers = power, do you think MS will agree with that? Just think about it, I heard Warzone 16 and man you have no logic at all saying Devs holding Ps3 version, tordavis,I like you and I always go to your site but this time I will say this take your Flawed logic(may be fanboy logic) with you

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Only on one case it's OK for the company to do a better version and this when the game is not released at the same time on both consoles,like bioshack

This may sound strange, but next gen started for me with oblivion.

when i first popped cam out of the sewers and into the open land scape... the size of it was overwhelming, the scale of the buildings etc. The trees looked great. i know they used speed tree, i actually think ST looks a lot better then what most dev's use for trees, but i have noticed no games seem to be using it now.

then watching the AI do some of the crazy things that it did, like all the shop keepers going to the pub after working hours and all that.

that set the next gen mark for me. Lots of great looking games have followed, but i have been very disappointed with the lack of development in AI and other aspects of these games.

what's even worse, there were a lot of really cool sounding games that ended up being canceled, or put on hold.

your own fanboy articles??

what exactly have bungie and epic done on the 360 that is "unmatched"?

what does the 360 do any different than any off the shelf pc with a multi-core processor?

why do you try to hide your obvious hate for the playstation by handing out backhanded compliments at the beginning of the "article" to then just rush right over to slamming the console and its maker by your second paragraph?

you are a joke.

p.s.

Sony DID say next gen starts when they say so and so far my eyes and those of many others agree with them. Put THAT on your fanboy blog.

This generation will start once the Japanese developers start cranking out games and ditch the hand helds.

Are people still talking about Grand Theft Auto IV? I sold that game ages ago and don't really know why anybody would still keep it.

Now that Jim Ryan is gone just need to remove Herman Hulst from his position! And maybe give Shuhei the position he deserved.

This gen hasn't been the best for games, last gen consoles are still out there and now there's been talk of the PS6 and Xbox Two for a year or so. Many games this gen will be ported to next gen and the cycle will continue. The re-release of the Neo Geo AES+, games on cartridge for £70 ($95), gaming is going back in time. Gaming has gone pricing mad with the high cost of games, consoles and controllers. The men and women at the top are clueless.

It’s always interesting to hear behind-the-scenes stories like this, especially involving veterans like Shuhei Yoshida and leadership figures like Jim Ryan. That said, there are usually multiple sides to decisions at that level. It could be less about not “listening” and more about differences in long-term vision for PlayStation. Yoshida played a huge role in shaping the brand, so whatever the reason, his impact is undeniable.

If true, and I'm inclined to believe it is, it goes to show that Sony lost their way when they became more western/didn't respect the PlayStation origin story. Andrew House and Jack Tretton did great work, but they also didn't try to fundamentally change the PlayStation DNA. Ryan oversaw the death of Japan Studio and a live service direction.

I already figured this, good lord imagine if Shuhei took over instead, would've been a platinum era 😩

I miss the first three generations of PlayStation. The way they turned PS3 around, we knew they meant business. We were all worried for a bit there around launch. Eventually from 2008 they started shifting slowly. But since Yoshida was fired, it's never been the same. Still enjoy my PS5 daily. I got a backlog dating back to PS2 lol So I'm fine but new games aren't as appealing anymore.

It seems like we were thrown on to the worst timeline possible where everything is too expensive and the wrong people were put in positions that makes the world a shitty place. We could have had Shu as the head of PS but we got the shitty alternative. Same goes for everyone in power around the world. Doesn’t matter the company or country the majority of us got the shitty picks and the world is declining like never before. I do think PS can come out of this because of their studios, talent and IP but they need someone more in touch with gamers leading things like Shu was. They’re still the best place for console gaming imo but it could be much better than it is especially without the massive live service failures. The rest of the world I have a lot less hope for right now. Hopefully the pendulum swings back towards the good ole days but I’m preparing for the worst.

There goes illuminati distraction story

So now there's certifiable proof that Ryan was in fact "fired", as opposed to when it was first announced that he "retired", in order to save face.

There's another guy who recently "retired" as CEO of another large gaming company, after doing a dismantling job as lead for well over a decade.

seems legit, the business man, fires the one who has ideas to move the business forward.

Jim Ryan is the reason why we are entering year 6 since the PS5 launch and many of us don't feel like the PS5 has gotten started as yet.

I hope going forward, we will see a return to form.