Jesus, i had to read the article.

I dont understand what is going thrpugh this persons mind, as they try to compare the number of zombies games vs vampire games, yet even still vampire games are released in huge gap of time vs zombies.

Come on, can someone on console name me a recent vampire game?

Not gonna count skyrim remaster cause its a remaster.

Also this game hasnt even been fully revealed, yet as a vampire game to me looking at it, it doesnt look like the average vampire hunter game that we see so many of

Vampire Rain. And that game was AWESOME! In the absolute worst way imaginable. Haven't really seen a stand alone vampire console title since. Or am I missing something?

They've already lives up to that potential It's named Vampire - The Masquerade: Bloodlines,, and therei's basically no point trying to surpass it.

It's to vampire games what The Godfather is to crime dramas. You can't beat it, find something else to do. Any direct comparisons will make your thing look like garbage.

@-EDMIX_

Uncle Tom Coon.

TLOU was a zombie game that released into a flooded market too though, and look how that turned out.

"WW2 shooters flooded the market 12-13 years ago"

Nope.

and when you say "flooded" you mean Metal Of Honor and Call Of Duty? That is "flooded" to you folks?

"zombie games were a flooded market" Zombie game, is not a genre.

How can an enemy type "flood" a market when the genre itself is the market and Zombie is not a genre?

That is like saying generic Skeleton guy with sword and shield is FLOODING the market...

Sooooo "open-world games" is not a genre. So Ghost Recon and Zelda are not the same bud, both of them cater to DIFFERENT MARKETS!

"always-online" Not a market, its not a genre...

You have MMOs that are "always-online", you have many games that are always online.....why someone is playing Destiny, is different then them playing Guild Wars...they are DIFFERENT MARKETS!

To understand what "market" is or a genre, you actually need to know the WHY they are playing.

So they are playing it only because it is open world?
So they are playing it only because it has zombies and NOTHING ELSE?
So they are playing it only because its always online?

So ask yourself, if this doesn't define the actual PURPOSE of the game, how can it fit a genre, how can it fit a market?

Zombie is not the core focus of something like The Last Of Us, you can't play Left 4 Dead and FULLY understand the last of us before playing it.

You can't play Guild Wars, thus fully understand Destiny

You can't play 100 hours of Ghost Recon THUS love Zelda.

You are making it sound as if those features alone, are the genre, they are not.

Genre - "a category of artistic composition, as in music or literature, characterized by similarities in form, style, or subject matter."

Soooooooo zombie may be an enemy type, but it is not the actual purpose of the actual gameplay mechnics, you can have a Zombie RPG, so we have too many Zombie games, so you know what a zombie RPG is and will pass?

You can have a open world RPG and an open world shooter.......so you know you don't like open world games, so regardless of genre, you know it will be bad thus pass?

Do you not understand that the concepts you brought up are not actually the core defining concepts of those games right?

@ -EDMIX- ... Call of Duty, COD2, COD3, COD:Big Red One, COD: Finest Hour, COD: Road To Victory, COD: World at War, Hour of Victory, Battlefield 1942, Brothers In Arms, BIA: Road To Hill 30, BIA: Earned In Blood, Sniper Elite, Medal of Honor, MOH: Frontline, MOH: Heroes 1 & 2, MOH: Allied Assault, MOH: Pacific Assault, MOH: European Assault, i could go on & on...

around the time COD released & the years following... there was a glut of WW2 games. because of the breakout success of Call of Duty the market was FLOODED with them, people were SICK of them & begged for a Modern Warfare game, hence the success of COD4... but you're probably too young & don't know about any of that.

http://www.ign.com/articles...

i shouldn't even get in to the rest of your TL;DR post because you're clearly just arguing over specific wording & semantics. "always online, grindy games like Destiny, The Division" i don't know the name of the genre, but its CLEARLY a genre of game... you knew EXACTLY what i meant by that description.

"zombie game" is not a genre, but its a common theme that has flooded the market in the last 5 years or so & people are tired of it. that was my point, which you completely missed. The Walking Dead: The Telltale Series, Dead Rising 4, Days Gone, Killing Floor 2, Dead Island: Riptide, How to Survive 2, State of Decay 2, Resident Evil 7, Overkill's The Walking Dead, Dead Island 2, Dying Light 2, and Left 4 Dead 3 (that list is straight from the article) they didn't even mention Last of Us 2 but you seem like the type of guy to say "you're wrong!!! TLOU's infected are not really zombies!!!" while completely missing the point... so I wont even go there with you.

since people are burnt out on zombies, games with Vampire, Blood, or Lovecraftian themes are beginning to see an uptick in numbers. which is the point the article is trying to make.
Bloodborne, Vampyr, Code Vein etc.

everyone else here gets the point the article is making. if you're just here to troll people in the comments over semantics & wording.... save your keystrokes. they're not wanted.

@ -EDMIX- ... Call of Duty, COD2, COD3, COD:Big Red One, COD: Finest Hour, COD: Road To Victory, COD: World at War, Hour of Victory, Battlefield 1942, Brothers In Arms, BIA: Road To Hill 30, BIA: Earned In Blood, Sniper Elite, Medal of Honor, MOH: Frontline, MOH: Heroes 1 & 2, MOH: Allied Assault, MOH: Pacific Assault, MOH: European Assault, i could go on & on...

around the time COD released & the years following... there was a glut of WW2 games. because of the breakout success of Call of Duty the market was FLOODED with them, people were SICK of them & begged for a Modern Warfare game, hence the success of COD4... but you're probably too young & don't know about any of that.

http://www.ign.com/articles...

i shouldn't even get in to the rest of your TL;DR post because you're clearly just arguing over specific wording & semantics. "always online, grindy games like Destiny, The Division" i don't know the name of the genre, but its CLEARLY a genre of game... you knew EXACTLY what i meant by that description.

"zombie game" is not a genre, but its a common theme that has flooded the market in the last 5 years or so & people are tired of it. that was my point, which you completely missed. The Walking Dead: The Telltale Series, Dead Rising 4, Days Gone, Killing Floor 2, Dead Island: Riptide, How to Survive 2, State of Decay 2, Resident Evil 7, Overkill's The Walking Dead, Dead Island 2, Dying Light 2, and Left 4 Dead 3 (that list is straight from the article) they didn't even mention Last of Us 2 but you seem like the type of guy to say "you're wrong!!! TLOU's infected are not really zombies!!!" while completely missing the point... so I wont even go there with you.

since people are burnt out on zombies, games with Vampire, Blood, or Lovecraftian themes are beginning to see an uptick in numbers. which is the point the article is trying to make.
Bloodborne, Vampyr, Code Vein etc.

everyone else here gets the point the article is making. if you're just here to troll people in the comments over semantics & wording... save your keystrokes. they're not wanted.

Call of Juarez...had a sequel too

@TFx- you named sequels to many series bud, that is like saying we are flooded with Western Shows and I name Dead Wood and all its seasons.

So to say "Call Of Duty, Call Of Duty 2" is no different then saying we have a flooded market of car moves then say "Fast and Furious 1, 2 Fast 2 Furious" etc

Sorry but you are simply naming many sequels to established IPs.

When you actually simply look at the IP, you have COD, Medal Of Honor, Battlefield, Brothers in Arms etc.

Many of those titles are vastly different in terms of play style and what you do (COD and Medal Of Honor being the closest to concept)

Battlefield isn't like COD, COD isn't like Brothers In Arms etc.

"but its a common theme that has flooded the market in the last 5 years or so & people are tired of it"

tired of an enemy type?

Sure.

That sounds pretty stupid to me bud. You not playing a game cause a zombie is the enemy regardless of genre?

" type of guy to say "you're wrong!!! TLOU's infected are not really zombies!" ???? ummmm nope. I don't know why you thought at was anything I believed. My point is that they are different games. You are talking about DIFFERENT GENRES

So is Left 4 Dead getting boring so skip The Last Of Us?

OH you played 100 hours of Dying Light so no need to buy Days Gone, all the same?

Soooo sure. "people were SICK" thats nice.

What kind of slow people thought those titles were the same and do you really think the industry should be listen to people this stupid in the first place?

If someone is so stupid, so slow as basically assume the enemy type means the same game, or the same era ie WWII means the same game, they are just too dumb to really take seriously or to even be taking into consideration in regards to how someone makes their games.

Soooooo no, Dying Light isn't going to suddenly make you not play The Last Of Us 2.

Lots of games are based on earth, you going to tell me "the market was FLOODED with them, people were SICK of them & begged for a non-earth game" lol

or

"since people are burnt out on earth games" LMFAO!

I mean...who is playing the game SOLELY because of a zombie? That is like saying you would play a genre you HATE because a zombie was in it, you play it for the concept, for the GENRE, not simply because of the enemy type.

Liking The Last Of US, doesn't mean you'll LOVE Left 4 Dead bud.

Its just one of the dumbest things I've read in a very, very long time.

@Black- "Call of Juarez...had a sequel too"

Thats a 3rd person open world game?

Soooooo "Red Dead legit are the only of their kind, besides Gun"

Reminds me of Doom like back in the days for every FPS game

Lies of P and Wuchang Fallen Feathers are best soulsikes to me. I slightly prefer Wuchang ut they’re both awesome. I’d say Black Myth Wukong too but it’s a little more action than most souls games but it could fit in there as well.