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Microsoft's Diverse First Party Studios Pushing Project Scorpio Forward

Microsoft is hoping its new console will push gaming to a new level. Executives from the firm spoke about how its devs are pushing Project Scorpio forward.

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Kribwalker3316d ago

As soon as I can I will be preordering it because I feel like it will be like the elite controller and in short supply for the first bit

Death3316d ago

Yeah, I feel the same way. I'll be pre-ordering along with some friends that are doing the same.

darthv723316d ago

I'd love to see these studios do something different within their own comfort zones. Meaning that turn 10 does really good racing games so why not have them take a crack at a futuristic racing game? something along the lines of a new Quantum Redshift.

Noskypeno3316d ago

@Darth I would like to see them create something like gta or twisted metal but a bit more original

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lxeasy3316d ago

Scorpio will no doubt go out of Stock quickly but Microsoft needs more first party Studios.

donthate3316d ago

Nah. Many ways to bring exclusives by contracting outside developers.

343_Guilty_Spark3316d ago

How many times are you going to say this?

ThatGuyDart3316d ago

@donthate

How well has that worked so far for them this gen?

donthate3315d ago

@ThatGuyDart:

Great so far! Gave us the best racing game this generation with Forza Horizon 3.

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zaherdab3316d ago

question is ... will they bundle an elite controller with it ?

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MorpheusX3316d ago

@zahdab

"question is ... will they bundle an elite controller with it ? "

I wonder the same: I doubt it, but that would be something if they did.

Kribwalker3316d ago

I already have my elite controller so I'm ok either way

FyBy3316d ago

@Madamsjr01 it's agree / not agree . Don't make it personal :-)

badz1493315d ago (Edited 3315d ago )

They keep touting it as a "premium" and for the best experience on console, right? I thinknthey should bundle an elite controller with it. Doesn't make sense if they don't. With it bundled, I think many will consider it even if it costs $600

zaherdab3314d ago

Well i hope so, as a premium product you'd expect it to be all that ... i am pretty sure there are more bells and whistles to it than just the hardware specs.

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raWfodog3316d ago

If I do get one, it will more than likely be after Holiday 2018 at the earliest cause that's just me. First, I really need to see some games that will make me want to get a Scorpio when I didn't even get an XB1. I was waiting on Scalebound to finally get me over the hump but that obviously ain't happening now. I'm pretty sure that they have something special in the works though. Second, perhaps the hardware will be cheaper and more efficient after that. Smaller, cooler, cheaper procs usually come about a year or so afterwards. Third, I'm not even planning on upgrading to a 4K tv any time soon. My current 1080p is still looking beautiful and running fine. That's also why I'm not pressed on upgrading to PS4 Pro any time soon either. I'm still happy with my vanilla PS4 but if it breaks, then I'll upgrade.

Perjoss3316d ago (Edited 3316d ago )

You dont really lose anything for preordering hardware, they only charge you when it ships and you can cancel it any time if you change your mind. And if the supply is low and you dont mind being a bit of a scumbag you can sell it for an extra hundred or so on ebay.

The_Hooligan3316d ago

As far as games are concerned, will there ever be a true Scorpio exclusive? I ask cause when PS4 pro launched ppl kept saying the original PS4 will hold it back until it gets true exclusives for pro. Obviously that hasn't happened so far and the games work on both. Will the same games work on xb1 and Scorpio? I mean I know one will be true 4k and the other 1080/720 or w.e. it may be. I only own a regular PS4 and want to buy either xb1 or Scorpio but money is a bit tight right now and we still don't know what Scorpio will cost. I can get Scorpio as long as it's under 500 so here's hoping that will happen. As a gamer I just want to play good games and have fun regardless of what system they might be on.

Kribwalker3316d ago

Exactly. Game and have fun regardless. I'm almost finished Zelda, halo wars 2 and just started horizon. The best of all worlds

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XanderZane3315d ago

Definitely pre-ordering it even thought I don't have the money right now for it. Hopefully I will by the night it gets released.

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XiNatsuDragnel3316d ago

Diverse??? That's questionable at best

Death3316d ago

The article is comparing Turn 10, 343, The Coalition and Rare with each other. In those terms it is diverse since they are all doing something different. (Racing, third person, first person, etc.) There is no question they simply need more IP's though.

mcstorm3316d ago

Spot on with both there. Glad we get forza as i love both ms and horozon but want to see a few more IPS now. A fable replacement, love to see ki2 or 4k, also like to see some of the games come back from the original Xbox to as they had some very underrated games as well as some of the old rare ips.

Why o why3316d ago (Edited 3316d ago )

A concerted push for more ips and more studios will definitely help them improve output and compete.. It'll be even more beneficial for next gens xbox . I believe MS are in this for the long term despite what some say so they badly need to improve in some areas and refine others. We're in year 3 and look at the levels of quality output in comparison. Build better now globally. Good Luck.

I heard a guy, cant remember who but he was from team xbox, suggesting MS should tie up a few Asian indie developers and build from there........One of the best ideas I've heard on N4G. Broaden the fan-base and you broaden your profits. Get devs young and at their cheapest and MS may reap great rewards and relationships in the long term.

meka26113316d ago

I will say a great new game is sea of theives. Can't talk to much about alpha because of NDA, but I'll just say that game is gonna be a great exclusive, proly a system seller as well.

Bronxs153316d ago (Edited 3316d ago )

and at that point, the games they make are pretty much top notch / gold standard for their respective genres. forza is amazing racer, halo (quips aside with story in 5) is a great fps, and gears is a great 3rd person shooter.

variety would be nice, but it's not as poor as say nintendo, other exclusives like quantum break, ryse, and sunset overdrive add nicely to the mix.

ms doesn't have a tittle like uncharted, but they did their part for their platform owners by making sure tomb raider was there, and a year earlier than ps4 and tomb raider was a total blast, i will replay it if they patch it up for scorpio.

if i were Microsoft i would purchase moon studio and have a solid 2d platformer to their existing line up of racer, fps, and 3rd person.

then bring back banjo and or conker and you got your 3d platformer basis covered. imagine seeing banjo or conkur all done up in 4k uhd hdr for scorpio.

and of course all major 3rd party tittles are there, all they are really missing is a big open world rpg exclusive to fill the void that fable left in many xbox gamers hearts.

i don't see MS ever getting an exclusive sports tittle to complete with the likes of mlb the show, but they should get out into other genres and bring back things like crimson skies. i'm not a fan of crimson skies personally, but i see a lot of comments hoping for it.

something like kameo can be good for 3rd person action as well, not all as serious/gorey as gears. i guess recore was sort of this. i'd love to see something like a new enslaved.

and lastly i almost forgot, they do have what is regarded as the definitive console real time strategy in halo wars, niche though it maybe.

yomfweeee3316d ago

A few different genres out of dozens is diverse to you?

mcstorm3316d ago

Bronxs15 your right. People are also forgetting the shift in Microsoft with the gaming in general. For years Microsoft have said they are going to try and push gaming on pc but bring it closer to Xbox and since windows 10 has come out you can see this starting to happen. I also think Microsoft know to make some ip's sell well and also be noticed is to also have them on pc as the gores are different on the two but also having pc Vs Xbox online play will be a big boost to.

It's interesting times as Sony are in the vr Market right now Nintendo are pushing the all in one console and Microsoft are pushing power/pc gaming and for me all 3 doing different things is great for the industry as last gen felt alit bit like they were all doing the same thing.

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subtenko3316d ago (Edited 3316d ago )

1.Forza
2.Halo
3.GearsOfWar
4.Quantumbreak
5.Xbox Gold
6.Scorpio

https://media.giphy.com/med...
*head tilt*

_-EDMIX-_3316d ago

Lol 😂😂😂 28514;😂😂

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notachance3315d ago

and the year before that

IGiveHugs2NakedWomen3315d ago (Edited 3315d ago )

I didn't realize that 4 studios could be considered diverse when they really haven't had any diversity in their games.

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PhoenixUp3316d ago

Not like they have a choice

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Take-Two CEO Once Again Side Steps Grand Theft Auto 6 Price Point

Strauss Zelnick says price of GTA 6 is being carefully considered and that Rockstar is focused on "making the most spectacular piece of entertainment on Earth."

Kuma11d ago

If GTA 6 abandons everything that made GTA 5 great, it will crash and burn right out of the gate. GTA 5 was funny and not at all PC. My worry is that they will cave to the PC crowd and ruin the vibes.

Eonjay11d ago

They got freaking BBLs twerking on the top of trucks for the gram, the freaking Flordia joker, and dude running down the stree in their undies and you are worried about it being 'too PC'? The internet has runied gamers. It doesn't matter how non-PC they make the game, you will all listen to the grifters telling you not to believe your lying eyes lol.

gigoran811d ago

"Rockstar Games’ co-founder and former VP of Development Jamie King said he envisions GTA 6 as a game that’s “maybe not quite as edgy or quite as funny” as its satirical predecessors."

oh yeah, totally internet grifters spreading rumors...

blacktiger11d ago

That's part of the plan, they destroyed you but they need to destroy the shareholders? Only 1 shre holder is the true elite that don't care

1nsomniac11d ago (Edited 11d ago )

Meh.., if it’s above £55 I ain’t buying it.

Rockstar are genuinely not half the company they used to be. I was a die hard GTA fan I’ve purchased every game and expansion and spin off day 1.

My opinion of GTA6 is that I can take it or leave it. Not bothered. They burnt too many bridges.

DaReapa11d ago (Edited 11d ago )

So they're actually leaving the door open for an L.A. Noire sequel? Nice!

VaNdAl11d ago (Edited 11d ago )

He should just come out and say it already it's getting stupid it's going to be a 100 bucks $200 for the special edition🤡🤡; 29315;🤣♿

Storm2311d ago

I won't be getting this game until I can get it for $70. SHoot, I could wait for it to be even lower. I don't need the game that badly as my backlog is still huge and I am enjoying playing other things.

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Talking Aliens: The Video Games With Author Mike Diver

Skewed and Reviewed have posted an interview with Author Mike Diver about his pending book on Aliens video games.

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Xbox boss: Memory crisis could impact next-gen hardware pricing

Xbox boss Asha Sharma has discussed how component shortages will impact the company's plans for Project Helix.

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Eonjay12d ago

When does this end? Its killing everyone. Consoles and PC. And for what? AI? The benefits of AI are completely outweighed by the negatives. And the government should have never allowed one company to buy up all the RAM.

Lexreborn213d ago

This kind of proves this is an after thought product, most products like this are in r&d 5 years before they start mass producing. So they typically have the cost of components and things worked out long before assembly starts.

This is an assumption still, but I wouldn’t be surprised if project helix is similar to Scalebound,perfect dark and sod3. They had an idea but no actual execution other than concept stage. Being impacted by the ram shortage likely would also put this device 3-4 years out.

I’m not even sure MS has that endurance with Xbox yet

Fishy Fingers13d ago (Edited 13d ago )

I mean.... what?

We're at a point that Samsung wont even provide their own phone department ram because they can sell it at higher prices to 3rd parties (AI). Its more profitable to sell the ram than make their own devices with it.

You think because R&D starts 5 years ago the 3rd party component manufacturers will honour that price? They'll sell it to whomever is paying the most today, not some gentlemens agreement they made years ago. AI farms will buy more volume at higher prices than any console manufacturer will. It'll be the same for Playstation.

Lexreborn212d ago

Contractual agreements are not the same as “gentlemen” agreements. If you think that they work with their distributors a month before production then their entire business model is trash. They work with companies like nvidia constantly for building the graphics cards they need. They work with companies that build motherboards years in advance. This is what proper business planning does.

They are not buying components on a whim like a consumer. So again, considering the ram isn’t a singular module and is integrated into the motherboard I highly doubt they wouldn’t have a final schematic that they are supposed to be building around.

If they are delaying production another 3 years then it’s obvious again this is an after though project and is just trying to be responsive to their bad execution they had the last 14 years.

It also isn’t far fetched to use their failure to produce first party titles the last 7 years including the highly anticipated games I mentioned all being cancelled. That they would continue to you know… lie

Sitdown13d ago

You don't really know how this works huh?

Profchaos13d ago (Edited 13d ago )

Helix is going to be stupidly expensive

Instead of leaning into smarter upscaling techniques they're brute forcing hardware that will cost them dearly and it remains to be seen if it's genuinely going to provide a meaningful differential

I know in the oc.doace people like to brag about not using frame gen or dlss to get to high on a game but for the majority of players they happily use those technologies without a second thought

That's going to be ps6 vs Helix

Eonjay12d ago

Yeah with FSR 5 they should be able to offer a much cheaper version of Helix.

Eonjay12d ago

While this does seem to be the case, I am encouraged by the statement from Microsoft about wanting to provide affordable options. If this means a Series S style Helix, at least there will be something affordable being offered.

XBManiac12d ago

Series S is what has killed Xbox Series so... Will they dare?

blacktiger13d ago

It's called systematic inflationary. Yes we get it Microsoft, keep raising in the name ofall kinds of stuffs

pwnmaster300013d ago

Honestly if there was thing I learned from this generation is that new consoles arnt day one anymore.
I can wait 1-3 years.

DarXyde13d ago

Another important lesson from this generation: while Nintendo showed us that prices don't necessarily need to ever drop, we've now learned that waiting 1-3 years does carry some risk that prices increase. This generation is just bizarre in all the wrong ways.

LucasRuinedChildhood13d ago (Edited 13d ago )

The factors are largely external. Covid and Russia-Ukraine war causing inflation led to the first price increase in 2022.

Then we get Trump's tariffs increasing hardware prices, AI boom causing a RAM crisis, war on Iran causing a worldwide fuel crisis which impacts the cost of everything.

Gaming doesn't exist in a vacuum. The last few years have been a shitshow and lot of it was definitely avoidable.

DarXyde12d ago

LucasRuinedChildhood,

For sure. No disagreement on the external factors doing a lot of this. Where I have to gently push back however is on two fronts:

1. The pandemic definitely caused some issues: asynchronous development was a big issue and really complicated timelines and affected game quality. At the same time, when it comes to price hikes, it's really difficult to know what was genuine necessity and what was taking consumers for a ride. The pandemic brought about "stag-flation" which was increasing prices and stagnant wages, which was a problem caused by supply chain constraints. There was also "Greed-flation", where companies that were slightly affected or had no issues took advantage of the situation and squeezed everyone citing supply chain issues when there were none.

2. It's definitely true that the tariffs, AI boom, and RAM crisis were all things enabled by tech broligarchs throwing money at this caricature of a world leader, one of them being Satya Nadella. I don't think Sony and Nintendo have contributed much to this problem if at all, but Microsoft's Nadella I feel was instrumental in causing every one of those issues. Microsoft as a company contributed to both candidates (though they gave Harris 4x as much if I recall), but Nadella was all in on letting AI run wild. He paid for unregulated AI, and got a war that's not a war (even though Trump called it that at least five times on television) that screwed up helium access. So for me, I feel that one of the players in the gaming industry is a key architect of these issues, and for that reason I struggle a bit to think of it as "external".

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