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Sony, Microsoft Bringing Their Games To PC Is Good For Gaming

As Sony pushes PS4 Games onto PlayStation Now and Microsoft extends Play Anywhere to Windows 10, these moves are beneficial to both parties.

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PhoenixUp3230d ago

It's more that Sony has a streaming service on PC and soon Mac than them actually putting their games on that platform

black0o3230d ago

PSnow is becoming like netflix it's everywhere, and i do agree with u sir

Timesplitter143230d ago (Edited 3230d ago )

For me, this really doesn't count as "PS4 exclusives being on PC"

Even though I always try to be as open-minded as possible, I really have a hard time thinking game streaming is a good idea. I can't really imagine a streamed game ever running at a smooth 120 fps with frame-perfect input handling and native image quality. I'd rather just have them release their games as standalone on PC as well as PS4

Unlike video streaming, game streaming is too flawed

S2Killinit3230d ago

As we go streaming will become better and better. The question is: what is going to happen to consoles once they become less relevant because of these alternatives. I realize that Sony isnt actually putting all of their games on PSNow but Microsoft IS. Eventually Sony will need to follow suit to compete if MS's business model pays off. I want console gaming to remain console gaming. I love consoles. So these news is not really welcome by me personally.

darthv723230d ago

Good for the PC only player as they would have options to enjoy xbox and ps games on one platform.

Me, I dabbled in Pc gaming but I have been a console gamer since pong so that is where my heart lies. Thankfully these services do not detract from my being able to enjoy the games on their respected consoles. If anything it just opens the door for more option to those who have been waiting for such things.

Having options is never a bad thing in my book.

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bluefox7553230d ago

@Timesplitter14 It does kind of suck compared to the real versions, there is often a graphical reduction because of the compression of the video. There is definite latency even with a fast connection (albeit minor), so I guess a slow paced game would be kinda okay, but then you never really own the game either. Also, if you have a decent sound system, you'll notice the sound is not as good either. Streaming is probably the least ideal way to play a game, but I guess it's passable if you just want to try a game.

ULTp0ltergeist3230d ago

all they need to do now is provide downloading, also like netflix? ...no

ABizzel13230d ago

@Timesplitter14

It is the same thing, expect with Xbox exclusives you own them on PC as part of your library.

Meanwhile PS exclusives you can only stream them, and more than likely select games at that until Sony moves on to the PS5, and adds more PS4 games to the library.

Same concept, different methods of delivery and different degrees of library access. PSNow is more geared towards PS3 games, but it has a huge amount of potential if Sony gets off their butts and turn it into Netflix for gaming, and get the pricing down to $15/mo. The majority of gamers will watch a single ad as long as it's gaming related while they wait for their game stream to start since it takes about 2 minutes anyway.

darthv723230d ago

@abizz "The majority of gamers will watch a single ad as long as it's gaming related" I was thinking the same thing only the ads could simply be Sony related instead of just gaming specifically. So trailers for some of their movies or tv shows would work as well as ones for games not available on the streaming service.

you know... a way to entice that streaming customer that there are other options outside of streaming.

Mr-Writer3230d ago (Edited 3230d ago )

@timesplitter

But why does performance matter when you're not that bothered enough about the game?

You wouldn't buy the game on PC as it clearly doesn't interest you enough to buy the console the game is on?

PS4 games on Now isn't about having PS games on PC, it's about giving PC gamers a taste of what's on PS and trying to get you to buy their console and into their eco system.

Same as MS, they don't want you gaming on Steam, or GOG, or what ever other PC client out there, they want you either gaming on Xbox or the Xbox PC client, they ain't gonna do that without games.

The difference is Sony have no steak in PC, so they will either try and get you to sub and hope it leads to a PS4 purchase, or a long term Now sub.

Unspoken3230d ago

Sony would have to go the "App Store" route or a game client. I'd pay full price for digital copies of PS4 games to play on PC, just as I do for UWP games.

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game4funz3230d ago

Regardless...that means if all exlusives go there then you dont need either console and can just get a pc.

TripleCs3230d ago

I just find it odd that Sony would do this so soon. Sony has stated that they were competing against the PC gaming market yet they are doing this and devaluing their console by allowing PC gamers to play it's games and exlusives. Is that how you compete against the PC market? By giving PC gamers less incentives to purchase a PS4? Makes total sense..

Outside_ofthe_Box3230d ago

Not only does it give less incentive to buy a PS4 it also gives people more incentive to give PC gaming a try at the very least.

I know streaming games isn't the most ideal way to game especially for the PC crowd that want to play games at the most optimal and I know Sony isn't putting new titles on there right away, but it is a sign that they'll go the MS route eventually.

TripleCs3230d ago

@Outside_ofthe_Box

Yup unfortunately I think they will go the same route Microsoft is going as well. I wouldn't even be surprised if Sony started actually releasing their first party exclusives on the PC in the next 2 or 3 years. This move is just the first of many steps towards the door of Sony devoloping games for PC. I hate to say this as an og fan since the 90's but this move also shows me that Sony doesn't really care if console gaming succeeds anymore. Just like Microsoft, they don't really care about console gaming as long as they turn a profit.

Sunny_D3230d ago

The thing is Sony didn't say what games will be available on PS Now. For all you know they could all be multiplatform games. don't expect horizon or blood-borne to be on it.

NoPeace_Walker3230d ago

sunny D, If you look at the current PS3 games on PS Now, Sony published titles made up the majority of it. Same will happen to PS4 games on Now. The reason why is Sony don't have to make deals to get their own contents on the service. You can take that to the bank.

Corpser3229d ago

Because sony make money from pc gamers subscribing to ps now, they care much more about profits than number of consoles (which are very low margin) sold

ginsunuva3229d ago

Why would Sony care if someone buys a Ps4 or just buys the games directly?
The only purpose of consoles is to lock down the games to their hardware so they can profit directly.

Now with PsNow, it's still locked to their service and they profit directly, without having to sell a console to a user first, which creates a customer obstacle and is a loss for Sony anyway (console are sold at losses).

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its_JEFF3230d ago

Whaaaat? coming to Mac as well?!?! that's news to be brother, good news! If they allow you to STREAM games, you already own, to a Mac or PC... that'll allow me to pick up my game at the office!!!

Nu3229d ago

Nintendo needs to copy both the giants that are Microsoft and Sony

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Thunder_G0d_Bane3229d ago

Street Fighter 5, Ps4/PC, same with Ni No Kuni 2 and Nier Automata. so Ps4 exclusives are also going on PC.

jrshankill3229d ago (Edited 3229d ago )

If I can play a PS4 game on a PC without needing a PS4, then the game isn't exclusive to the PS4.

Spin it whatever way you want, but you will not need a PS4 to play PS4 games.

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KingKionic 3230d ago

Welcome to the family playstation fans.

https://vgy.me/XfNMwa.jpg

Group hug.

RhymeNorReason3229d ago

Bet you didn't call the Sony fanboys out when they said worse things than that when MS started bringing their games to PC. Hypocrite.

Ceaser98573613229d ago (Edited 3229d ago )

"Bet you didn't call the Sony fanboys out when they said worse things than that when MS started bringing their games to PC. Hypocrite."

Lmao! It was more like MS fanboys got butt hurt when play anywhere was annouced. The sole purpose of owing the Xbox was gone. When QBreak got announced on PC. Twitter was flooded with hate. Talk about Double standard.

Oh! Sony fanboys were laughing and enjoying then.

Dragonscale3229d ago (Edited 3229d ago )

@rhyme, hurrah so glad ms are releasing all their games on pc. Whoopee. Xbone is now irrelevant lol.

Sparta073230d ago (Edited 3230d ago )

No not going to happen.😉
We still get " True Exclusives "
You guys don't. Sony is talking about streaming old PS4 games.
Keep dreaming. Sony is making too much money on software. They know the value of Exclusives.🤗
To play the games you still need a PS4🤣

conanlifts3230d ago

Based on your logic wouldn't it be " we still get true timed exclusives". Because every game becomes an old game at some point.

mcstorm3229d ago

Tbh it dose not really matter pc will get the games to. It dose lead to the question of how long will a console be around for going forward.

For me i love having different consoles ect but that said if devices like the nvidia sheild can get this app and Microsoft also bring a version to it could be a case of buy a box from who ever Sony Microsoft Nintendo nvidia or more and play all the games on it. Cost would then come into play though £10 a month for the big 3 but then what about ea, square, and more this is where I see an issue with streaming games.

Interesting time though.

agent45323229d ago

What about a tv app of PSN/Xbox Live without a box. That would be awesome

trooper_3229d ago

Yeah, you wait for those games. You don't even know what games are being offered! Lol!

andrewsquall3229d ago

Lol more like welcome to OUR family PC fan now that you will be able to stream games off a PS4 just like you can currently stream games to your PC from a PS3 console, for a fee of course. Probably no HDR for you either though.

Dragonscale3229d ago

@kio, wishful thinking. Thats actually quite amusing lol.

Not gonna happen though. As if sony would let people buy PlayStation games without the console. Dream on.

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Vasto3230d ago (Edited 3230d ago )

I will be getting Game Pass.

MVGeneral3230d ago

As long as these services don't detract from my playstation experience. I'm fine with that. Also I like controllers better than mouse and keyboard. Sofa>desk and chair.

RhymeNorReason3229d ago

DS4 and XB1 controller work in LC. HDMI cable to TV = play in couch. Excuses = damage control.

thexmanone3229d ago

I play my pc games on my 55" oled tv on the coach with my controller. Just depends on your setup.

agent45323229d ago

You can play on a sofa & a gamepad on PC 😎 Is not the nineties anymore .

Deep-throat3230d ago (Edited 3230d ago )

Good? No, it's great.

Making your game available on your console and PC = less bombas

Ask Sony about Gravity Rush 2 sales figure.

2pacalypsenow3230d ago

The PS4 games are streamed, you don't actually install it on PC. It wont add to the game sales numbers.

ThatGuyDart3230d ago

Thank you for pointing out how stupid his comment was lol

Where do these guys come from?

LP-Eleven3230d ago (Edited 3230d ago )

You may need to scream this, as it's obvious many people aren't understanding the difference.

* NEWSFLASH * You still need a PS4 to play the games! Not the same as UWP. And for people who call this "good for gaming", so you WANT everything on PC so the consoles' purpose dwindles? I see. Totally good for gaming!

Kribwalker3230d ago

@lp
You don't need a PS4. It is streamed through gaikai

Aenea3230d ago

@Krib

Or thru OnLive 😉

And about needing a PS4, well, the servers are mimicking to be a PS4, see it as a sort of an emulator that streams it's video to a client. Which means the game is still running on PS4, not natively on people's PC's....

RhymeNorReason3229d ago

It will kind of. If millions of people subscribe to PSNow just for a specific game, the figures and results will show which games are being streamed the most. Hence studios will receive bigger cuts. Hence more sequels and potential "sales." But not in true sale-through numbers, of course.

andrewsquall3229d ago

@2pacalypsenow Haha bet he never thought of that.

WhoCaresWhatMyNameIs3229d ago

Xbox GamePass is the same as PSnow where it don't add to sales numbers...so what was your point? To boost Sony here with your agenda?

What Deep-Throat is saying is Gravity Rush 2 sales aren't the best. So more exposure by going on PSNow will give it more attention and more sales...Jesus you and 56 other people have thick skulls...

starchild3229d ago

His point is that more people will get to play those games and it will help generate more revenue for Sony.

Imalwaysright3229d ago

But the service is not free. Sony would be getting money from each person that streamed GR2 or any other game.

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moegooner883230d ago

Except Gravity Rush 2 had a modest budget and don't have to sell millions to be profitable. Before asking Sony take a min to Google Shu's interview about Sony Japan/TLG and games budgets.

Trez12343230d ago

Better than halo wars 2 for sure.

andrewsquall3229d ago

And it beat Halo Wars 2 and that's even with the "end all" importance of it being on PC too.

StormLegend3230d ago

Sony games aren't on PC, you can't download them, change the graphics, resolution or the servers their on. It's just streaming a PS4 game in 720p 30fps with input lag.

gangsta_red3230d ago

"it's just streaming a PS4 game in 720p 30fps with input lag."

I'm sure that will change soon as Sony starts to push PSNow more.

And if the PSNow service is available on PC, then that does mean their games are on PC.

XabiDaChosenOne3230d ago (Edited 3230d ago )

@Are you sure or are you hoping? Two different things.
"And if the PSNow service is available on PC, then that does mean their games are on PC."
By technicality, for example Horizon Zero Dawn is available on the PS vita because of remote play.

ThatGuyDart3230d ago

PSNow been here for 3 years and it's still garbage. No reason to expect Sony to suddenly invest in improving it. This is a band-aid to a gunshot wound.

gangsta_red3230d ago

@Xabi

"Are you sure or are you hoping? Two different things."

If remote and share play already has this option then I'm sure Sony could bring the same type of option to PSNow.

So it's agreed, by technicality, the games are available on PC, to play on PC.

@ThatGuydart

"No reason to expect Sony to suddenly invest in improving it."

Why not, Sony spent money and bought out a whole streaming company for this. Why would Sony not try and improve this and make it valuable and attractive to gamers?

uptownsoul3230d ago

@gangsta_red - "I'm sure that will change soon as Sony starts to push PSNow more."

Sony will only start pushing PSNow more if subscriptions go up & stay up. If not, they might reverse course

XabiDaChosenOne3230d ago (Edited 3230d ago )

@Gangsta_red
"If remote and share play already has this option then I'm sure Sony could bring the same type of option to PSNow."
What options are you referring to sir?
"So it's agreed, by technicality, the games are available on PC, to play on PC."
Well by technicality those games are still running off of PS4s and the only thing that's on the PC is the video stream so your technically your not playing it on your PC so.....define available :-D

gangsta_red3230d ago

@Xabi

I have read that PS4Pro offers 1080p for shareplay and remote play. If that is true then Sony could bring that over to PSNow.

"Well by technicality those games are still running off of PS4s"

But technically you don't need to own a PS4 to play PSNow games on your PC. It's the same as I don't need to own Narcos to stream and watch Narcos from Netflix. So regardless of technicalities PS3/PS4 games are available to play on PC. Seriously though...what are we even trying to discuss with all this?

Aenea3230d ago (Edited 3230d ago )

"their games are on PC"

Yes, and no. They can be played on PC, they don't run on PC, there's the difference...

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@XabiDaChosenOne

Don't forget that it's also available already on Windows, OSX & Sony Xperia phones thru RemotePlay....

Sparta073230d ago (Edited 3230d ago )

@ red, your hoping that happens so you can play all the great PS4 games you been missing out on. But ........
No, not happening.
They said some PS4 games so is going to be old Games. Sony is making to much money on software. But keep wishing it might come true. 😂

P.s this is " STREAMING " only.
Still need a PS4 to play all the great exclusives coming.
You so jealous.... 🤣

Clunkyd3230d ago

@Gangsta_red
You really believe PS Now is here to stay? LOL
PS Now is so early right now, it's going to fail before it's prime time.

Death3229d ago

It sounds desperate when people try to spin playing PS4 games on PC as anything other than playing PS4 games on PC. If you don't need to own/have a PS4 and still play the games, you are still playing the games. There's no technicalities to hide behind, Sony is allowing PC gamers to play PlayStation exclusives without owning a PS4 with their PSNow service.

gangsta_red3229d ago

@clunky

"You really believe PS Now is here to stay? LOL"

I've never read so many comments that actually hoped something from Sony failed. Seriously.

Exactly what is so bad about renting a game and trying it out before you buy it? Or having the ability to access a whole library from PS3 and eventually PS1/PS2.

@Death

Yea, I was wondering about that too. No matter the "technicalities", the fact is you'll be able to play PS4 games on a PC without owning a PS4.

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aconnellan3230d ago

Hey now, don't make it sound too good...

game4funz3230d ago

And the service will only improve...regardless.
Sony games will be accessible via pc instead of needing the playstation.

moegooner883229d ago

"Sony games will be accessible via pc instead of needing the playstation."

Then go ahead and share the list of all the confirmed Sony games that are accessible via PC.

game4funz3229d ago

For the grammatically challenged please focus your attention on my second line.

"Sony games will be accessible via pc instead of needing the playstation."

@moegooner
The keyword being : will

Youngindy213230d ago

Yes, try to downplay it all you like. The fact remains PS4 games can be played on PC.

OB1Biker3230d ago (Edited 3230d ago )

It's still too early to generalise though. A few games streamed on PC is not the same thing as 'PS4 games can be played on PC'.

Mr-Dude3230d ago (Edited 3230d ago )

Well, not yet. They haven't announced any game, could be anything. Don't expect new games, if they do that, it would be very stupid for their software sales. Nobody would buy a new game anymore

NoPeace_Walker3230d ago (Edited 3230d ago )

I like how when the PS4 Pro and the PS4 slim were first announced without UHD Blu ray players and the comments were "I can stream 4K, who buys Disc anymore?"

The point is streaming or physical media, the fact is PS4 games will soon be able to be played by people with virtually any Windows 10 PCs is pretty much the same as Xbox games on PC. It is not about the form of media, it is about the content.

conanlifts3230d ago

If you can play them on pc without a ps4 then they are on pc. If they are 720p with input lag it just means that ps4 has the superior version.

XabiDaChosenOne3230d ago

@gangsta_red "I have read that PS4Pro offers 1080p for shareplay and remote play. If that is true then Sony could bring that over to PSNow."
Once again....that is not how bandwidth works..
"But technically you don't need to own a PS4 to play PSNow games on your PC." But a PS4 is still involved in the process. Yes, Some ps4 exclusives are "available" to play on the PC but nowhere near in the same sense as say an xbox exclusive is available. The statement is to broad and a little misleading.

Yohshida3229d ago

At least you can play with a good Controller = better experience.

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Rockstar launches official marketplace for mods

Rockstar has launched an official marketplace for "every server and every player" to buy mods: Cfx Marketplace.

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Christopher2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

I wonder how much of this isn't just taken work of others who have modded for free.

Edit: Also, great way for R* to take popular ideas and build them into GTAVI based on demand.

fr0sty10h ago

What I see happening here is, R* is going to ban mods in GTA6 UNLESS you buy them from the marketplace and R* then gets a cut of that sale.

ActualWhiteMan13h ago

Ah, perfect timing with them taking down the Bully online fan mod. Greedy a$$ company.

Christopher10h ago

It's okay as long as they get a cut of the money.

fr0sty10h ago

Expect R* to force it on you.

Snookies124h ago

Yep, right there with you. I'll happily donate to a mod creator if it looks really cool, or if I enjoy it. But expecting payment up front? Nope, not touching it.

IanTH9h ago(Edited 9h ago)

I'm not entirely sure how to read this, as it doesn't seem exactly like an exact parallel to Bethesda's paid mods shenanigans.

Rather than single player stuff, this appears to be aimed solely on Cfx Servers. From what I've gleaned, apparently Rockstar bought the Cfx mod team several years ago, coming a few years after weird contentions led them to ban a few of their members. Ultimately, the question is if they plan to keep this contained to only online/servers.

I have to guess to a degree yes. It'd be pretty hard to "force" paid mods for single player when modding files locally on your own machine, but much easier for servers they'll control. So perhaps this is their soft launch ahead of GTA6 online and they'll clamp down more tightly on non-official servers going forward? Ever since they've become a 1 or 2 property studio, I haven't really cared much for Rockstar stuff, so I'm not entirely up on everything surrounding this. Sounds like it has the potential to be problematic further down the line, but right now fairly easy to ignore...I think lol.

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Kotick claims lawsuit objecting to MS-Activision deal was "tied to Embracer's desire to boost sales"

Former CEO describes lawsuit filed by Swedish pension fund as a "collateral attack" on Activision Blizzard.

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OpenGL1d 6h ago

Yeah, the Microsoft deal has DEFINITELY worked out for everyone.

galgor1d 3h ago

Can this mother fucker just get lost already

PRIMORDUS1d 2h ago

He belongs in here ⚰️, hopefully sooner than later.

MrDead11h ago(Edited 11h ago)

Kotick Made $155 million from MS in the buyout, the little b*tch needs to stop whining. Thanks to this Microslop deal and massive industry consolidation thousands upon thousands of devs and other workers lost their livelihoods. This greedy piggie pervert needs shut up and f-off.

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An Update to Our Shared Commitment to Safer Gaming

Discover how Sony Interactive Entertainment, Nintendo, and Microsoft continue to collaborate to improve player safety across our platforms.

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