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Xbox Scorpio Needs Bigger Launch Exclusives

Microsoft wants to shake things up with Project Scorpio in 2017, but without promoting bigger, better exclusive titles, how will it compete with inevitable PS5?

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darthv723353d ago

I'd venture that when the PS5 releases then so will Scorpio only exclusives. Until then there are over 1000+ games that scorpio will have access to. I'd say that is more than enough games available for it's launch.

They may be existing xb1 games but to those who didnt have the xb1 but get the scorpio... they would be considered launch games. As in games available to play at launch.

Bigpappy3353d ago (Edited 3353d ago )

I am so amazed at how much interest there is in Scorpio. It is supposed to be a mid gen upgrade like the PSpro, yet people are saying it needs exclusives. How many did PSpro launch with?

Scorpio will have exclusive features on many games and will do well with or without exclusive games. When it release, any game on it will be a better version than on any other console. If people think that is not enough to sway core gamers, then I can only advice them to wait and see how it does after release.

Kingthrash3603353d ago

Pro had over 30 games supporting it at launch...I'm sure the scorpio will have this as well. Problem is xbox has so little games this year And nothing down the pipe line. After. What games are coming 2018? With sony you can day spiderman, tlou 2 maybe. A chance god of war and days gone this year. These are huge games. The scorpio will have what? That's the problem. If that problem isn't fixed at E3 and if the price is 499+ the scorpio will have no hype. It needs games, badly xbox and scorpio... and the scorpio needs to be affordable . With the pro doing so well and a wealth of games coming , and the switch coming with big games like mario and mario kart...it's gunna be a blood bath if they don't deliver.

Obscure_Observer3353d ago

@Kingtrash360

Care to name them? I remember of Rise of Tomb Raider, NBA 2K17 and Uncharted 4. All old games patched.

darthv723353d ago

@thrash "What games are coming 2018?" maybe we will know more at E3. My understanding is that MS is supposed to showcase only games at E3 and that they will do the hardware stuff before. Thus making their entire presentation very gaming focused.

why not try and be optimistic about things moving forward? You can be cautiously optimistic if that helps.

uptownsoul3353d ago (Edited 3353d ago )

I don't expect PS5 till 2019 or 2020...BUT when PS5 does release, it will be interesting to see if Microsoft adheres to the "All Scorpio games have to run on vanilla XB1s also" script. My guess is probably not.

Furthermore, when that PS5 does release (again my guess is 2019 or 2020), Xbox will need exclusives b/c the power won't be on their side

Sony, on the other hand, is doing it right. There is NO DOUBT Scorpio will have the power from holiday 2017 till a 2019 or 2020 PS5 release. So PS4 has exclusives like Gran Turismo:Sport, God of War, Spiderman, Days Gone, Death Stranding & The Last of Us 2 that will help distinguish itself from its competition until they have the power on their side again

S2Killinit3353d ago

it won't have exclusives as that would be the biggest backstab to the xbox adopters.

conanlifts3353d ago (Edited 3353d ago )

People are overlooking that scorpio will have exclusive games. Ms are just twisting the wording. They have already stated it will have " exclusive experiences" and support" high fidelity vr". MS will release exclusives that are VR only or that are in some way classed as a " new experiences" and use this wording as a way to say they are still honoring their word.

Unknown3353d ago

It's called N4g logic where everything that MS is negative. It doesn't matter if you have facts to back up what you're saying because they'll just use alternative facts to shut you down. Only the ignorant individuals run the show here.

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yomfweeee3353d ago

The difference is because Microsoft needs to turn the tide. Scorpio is only going to sell to big time Xbox fans if it sells for a premium price.

UnHoly_One3353d ago

I don't get it.

You know that consoles play other games besides exclusives, right?

Some people on here act like if you don't have an exclusive game then the thing just sits there and collects dust. I don't get that mentality at all.

If MS announced tomorrow that they were never making another exclusive game ever, I would still buy a scorpio, because that is where I want to play my multiplats.

conanlifts3353d ago

At those disagreeing, including bg116 here is the info to support my statement.

Phil spencer stated.

"because only Project Scorpio will support a VR headset (an accessory), and there will definitely be VR-only games that work only with Project Scorpio"

Greenberg also stated

"everything that works on Xbox One will work on Project Scorpio, rather than the other way around."

https://www.google.com.au/a...

Bathyj3353d ago

It doesnt need games exclusive to Scorpio. That would be the biggest kick in the teeth to current Xbox owners I can think of. And lets face it, probably 80% of the people that buy this thing are going to be current XBOne owners.

No, it needs Xbox exclusives. Games you cant play on Playstation or PC, so I have a reason to finally get one. The PC thing doesnt really effect me, I game on console. But I need games I cant play already to justify it.

If it only has multiplats, unless they are DRAMATICALLY better, Im not getting one. I mean is the Pro dramatically better than PS4 Vanillia? No. Its incremental. If Scorpio is only an incremental increase on Pro, I dont see why I would need one, other than exclusive games. At the moment my most anticipated title is Cuphead. Thats really not enough.

Price will be a factor too. I just got a 4kTV (largely because I got Pro and Horizon) and would like a 4k Bluray player. Im thinking about getting a XB S because they are dirt cheap now, but if Scorpio is reasonable I might get one for than. I'll have to wait and see, we should get more info at E3.

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TheCommentator3353d ago (Edited 3353d ago )

Sd11, if you read the article that you posted a link to, you'll see that they reiterate that they will not have games that only work on Scorpio, and that no one gets left behind. I find it wierd that MS considers VR it's own device though because it does need a console or PC to function. Since VR is not coming out until 2018 we won't really know what MS is considering when it comes to exclusives for VR.

I say that because there has been evidence since the August 2016 article you link which suggests that MS can get VR working on the OG XB1 as well. That evidence came at CES, when Oculus let it be known that computers less powerful than XB1 would be able to run Rift headsets in VR following a an update. Couple that to a 2018 launch window for MS' VR games and there's a strong case for VR compatibility being worked into all XB1's. Logic didctates that if Rift CAN be made to work on XB1, that MS would add support for it.

I don't care either way, nothing good enough has come out of VR yet to make the price of entry worthwhile anyways... and it may never happen. Just thought I'd point out that the possibility exists.

TheCommentator3353d ago (Edited 3353d ago )

Bathyj, too bad the Pro doesn't have a 4K player, huh? It was a mistake for them not to include one, IMO.

conanlifts3353d ago (Edited 3353d ago )

@the commentator. That was my point. While they have said they will not have exclusive games they have also put a spin on it. They having worded it so that vr games or pretty much anything requiring a peripheral could still get exclusives. Even if they get vr working on the standard xbox one they could still allow exclusive vr or hololens type games that are designed just for scorpio, based on their comments. Even in the latest comments by phil he used the " exclusive experiences" wording.

By the way i am not having a dig at xbox, i am a fan. I just think people need to temper their expectations based on what has been said and the wording that has been used.

Bathyj3353d ago

@Commentator
Yeah it's a shame but it did keep the price very reasonable. If it added to the price it wouldn't have been worth it. It fact I wouldn't have even bought a Pro except I had some money from Christmas and vouchers, then sold my PS4 for a good price. I actually didn't pay a cent of my own money for the Pro. Of course, it then caused me to drop 3 grand on a 4kTV. Oh well.

QUIMICOMORTAL3353d ago

Um ps4 pro has the same exclusives ps4 has, and they are many, while Scorpio and x1 have so little this time of the year.

That's what people are talking about

TheCommentator3352d ago

Bathyj, not trying to pick you apart here, but the XB1S has a 4K player and it doesn't cost any more. Also, you need a 4K Blu Ray player at significantly greater cost than if it had been included in PS4 Pro to begin with. Finally, Scorpio having one included made you consider getting it because it also has exclusive games you want to play, so MS was smart to include one for the few bucks per unit cost increase.

Sd11, I understand where you're coming from. I'm not saying their messaging is clear right now, just playing Devil's Advocate. I've read about Scorpio possibly having a new interface, motion something-or-other, which could be an exclusive experience too. Also consider that during an interview people get put on the spot about NDA stuff, and have to come up with ambiguous answers that can be contrdictory to save face on the situation. Maybe MS can't talk about their effort to include VR on all consoles because it's being engineered as we speak. I don't know what's true or not, although I have beliefs, I'm just stating what's plausable when considering all available information available at this time.

Godmars2903352d ago

As usual, in promoting and building hype, MS and/or the Xbox's fan base have created oversized expectations.

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tyasia03353d ago

Well have fun playing your 3 year old games while I am playing all the new exclusive releases on my PS4. If Microsoft by chance happens to get any actual new games I'll play them on my PC.

darthv723353d ago

Now that you mention it, I am enjoying drive club, the order 1886, ryse and sunset overdrive. They may be old news but they are new to me. So thanks for the words of encouragement as I am having fun with them.

conanlifts3353d ago

The problem with xbox games on pc is that ms still do not fully support x play. So as most of my gaming friends have an xbox, i still need an xbox to play against them. Hopefully this changes and i can just use my pc in the future for all modes without restrictions.

LexHazard793353d ago

Thanks! I'll be playing old and new games on Scorpio. You guys dont know what to do anymore..all this downplaying of Scorpio. Devs are mocking the PS4 Pro...
Thinking if I should just sell mine to fund Scorpio and 4K/HDR monitor.

LastCenturyRob3353d ago

Well, we will be having fun playing more than just three year old games "bra"... Have fun playing those Xbox games on PC...They usually don't run as good as on the Xbox.

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firelogic3353d ago

If people aren't buying an XB1, why would they shell out more money to buy a Scorpio? The game library will be 100% identical to XB1. Of course there are people that will buy one, just like there are people that bought a Pro, but they're far and few between. The way MS is positioning Scorpio, at least out of the gate, is baffling. They should be drawing a line in the sand saying Scorpio is brand new, powerful, and look at these exclusive games it'll have PLUS 100% BC with XB1's library. But they're not. They're handcuffing it to the lagging XB1.

MecheSlays3353d ago

Better looking 3rd parties atleast

darthv723353d ago

I agree, just like Pro is handcuffed to the base PS4. Whichever one decides to cut ties with the lesser unit is the one to have exclusive games specifically for it moving forward.

My money is on MS because they have a history of changing their word unlike Sony. Although..... Sony could very well go back on their word first as we get closer to PS5 because Scorpio will have been on the market for at least a year and Sony would be wise to make some Pro specific heavy hitters if they want to shift more Pro units in the mean time.

conanlifts3353d ago

It will have exclusives. Ms have already said this. They are just hiding behind " high fidelity vr and new experiences". But it will certainly have exclusives, especially where vr is concerned.

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CannonB83353d ago

Look at the depths N4G has plunged to! An actual, honest to goodness fair comment without any hint of fanboyism or bias. Kudos to firelogic.

That being said, it's kinda telling that all MS seems to be doing just now is promoting Scorpio. What use is a new machine without new games to play it on? Fair enough, it'll be backwards compatible with XB1 games, but at the pricepoint Scorpio will more than likely be released at (around £499, I reckon) it's going to be expensive for early adopters. MS should be showing mind-blowing games while highlighting the 4K potential of Scorpio. Instead, all we seem to get are tweets or articles seemingly aimed at the fanboy culture surrounding the XB1 and reinforcing the "look what's coming!" mindset.
Why can't they show assets, videos and early Alpha gameplay from the games which should already be heavily in development? At least give people something new to look forward to.

mark_parch3353d ago

have scorpio only games at launch is the stupidest thing i've heard. the xbox one will not hold back the scorpio just like its doesn't hold back multiplats that are on pc. witcher 3 for example in native 4k ultra settings 60fps on pc is not held back by xbox or ps4 its just scaled down to suit the hardware and this process will be made even easier with UWP

Clunkyd3352d ago

I'm buying a Scorpio just for the 3rd party multiplats, I want to get the best out of a console.
Though I'll still be playing my PS4 Pro for exclusives.

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2pacalypsenow3353d ago

1000 games? Where you get that number?

tyasia03353d ago (Edited 3353d ago )

Here are some more interesting numbers.

PS4 Exclusive = 101
PS4 Console exclusive = 384

XBone Exclusive = 33
XBone Console exclusive = 118

Greater than 3 to 1 in favor of PS4... Also more total games.

Vandamme213353d ago

Xbox Scorpio is gonna have Halo 4 ODLC, Halo 5 ODLC, Halo Wars 2 ODLC, Halo 6, Halo 6, Halo 6 ODLC, Gears of war 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, and Forza 6, 7, 8, 9 and 10. Lmao

XanderZane3353d ago

They have only 1000 games that aren't Halo, Gears or Forza though.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wi...

Besides Halo Wars 2 & Forza 7, there won't be any other Halo, Forza or Gears game coming for the XB1/Scorpio this year.

dcbronco3353d ago

It's amazing how desperate sites can be. Or should I say manipulative. But looking at the number of people who gave you a down vote I understand it eventually becomes a matter of if they're that stupid why not. I'm not sure it's exploitation if stupid is the natural state.

rainslacker3353d ago

I'd venture without the games, MS will have a hard time competing against PS4/PS4P(take your pick), and that the PS5 shouldn't be their primary concern right now.

Otherwise, yeah, i'd assume within 3 years, MS will likely drop legacy Xbox support. Maybe 2. They don't even have the legacy support mandate for X1 as is.

DrumBeat3353d ago

That's lowering the standard, don't you think? Launch games, conventionally, have been either brand new IPs at launch or sequels to existing ones. They've been new games, though, regardless.

To consider games from a previous gen 'launch games' is just poo.

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Kribwalker3353d ago

Glad your crystal ball has shown you what MS has planned for E3 and beyond

Failcube3353d ago

Sounds like you really get the point of this discussion, Krib!

Razzer3353d ago

Did you read the article?

Kribwalker3353d ago

Yes I did. He expects forza and maybe one more unannounced game to come out this year, completely ignoring the fact Phil Spencer recently said they have learned from announcing games too early and will be announcing them closer to release dates then.

Razzer3353d ago

@krib

Forza and an unannounced game...THIS YEAR. How is that announcing "too early"? WTF are you even talking about?

BIGBOSS083353d ago

Microsoft are easy to predict. We'll obviously get new halo/gears/forza and a few 3rd party announcements, they'll boast about the power of the scorpio and that'll be it. Than they'll use their sleezy marketing to try and sell it. Microsoft have been like this ever since their inception. Anyone with half a brain can figure them out.

demonddel3353d ago

Wait until you see the Scorpio version of GTA6

Unspoken3353d ago

Thanks for letting us know how much brain you have left.

Destiny10803353d ago

GTA6 is years away probably a ps5 launch title

Why o why3353d ago

Defense! Defense! Defense!....

Jokes aside, the scorpio doesn't need its own exclusives... the xbox brand needs its own exclusives. The scorpio will benefit from having optimised versions just like the pro. The launch games could just be games released soley on the win 10 platform. It'll be a pity for current x1 owners to have to wait IF titles are being held back for the scorpio launch but time will tell.

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chrisx3353d ago (Edited 3353d ago )

With the amount of top quality exclusives the Ps4 has been dropping, the scorpio needs to launch with a good amt of exclusives that all have to actually get released soon and/or not cancelled

Obscure_Observer3353d ago

PS5

And they said power does not matter. The PS4Pro is only 3 months in the market and people already talking about a next gen machine that Sony didn´t even mention yet.

Nyxus3353d ago

Who is? And Horizon just came out, a game that looks amazing even on a regular PS4.

BIGBOSS083353d ago

You know what's going to be really funny? That scorpio with its 6 teraflops of power still won't have a game as good looking as horizon.

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Obscure_Observer3353d ago

@BIGBOSSO8

Really? Check your facts. Ryse is from 2013. Horizon is amazing no doubt, but Ryse was way ahead of its time.

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Obscure_Observer3353d ago

@Prince-Ali

"As great looking as RYSE was and still is still doesn't come close to the overall quality of Horizon... behave yourself kid."

That´s a matter of opnion and i respect yours. If you think of yourself as an adult, than YOU should check your behavior first before label someone as "kid". On the internet we are just as fake as one can be. Just a name and a number and you don´t have to like or agree with anything i say, just ignore me and move along.

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tyasia03353d ago

Why are you acting so surprised? It's basically a given that there will be another Sony console at some point.

Games are what matters, people by gaming consoles to play games.

Obscure_Observer3353d ago

@tyasia0

I´m not surprised at all. I knew once news regarding the Scorpio like that one where Monolith´s devs are praising the power of the Scorpio, fanboys would start talking about the PS5 instead the Pro.

As was expected.

Razzer3353d ago

Power means jackshit without games.

Obscure_Observer3353d ago (Edited 3353d ago )

And yet here you are. I´m positive this is not the first time you say something similar on an equal similiar Scorpio article.

You people expect different results doing exact the same thing. The very definition of insanity but if bashing and downplaying Scorpio and Xbox makes you feel good about yourself somehow, by all means, continue. ;)

Razzer3353d ago

I am continually astounded by how Xbox gamers just lie down and accept the lack of games coming their way. That is insanity.

r2oB3353d ago

@ obscure observer

If I roll dice 10 times the same way, am I insane for expecting different results?

On topic, he is right. Power is secondary to games. Even the most powerful vehicle needs fuel/power to run.

Unspoken3353d ago

There are plenty of games on Xbox. Power meant much at the beginning of this gen for multiplatform games, and it still does. Stop with the alternative facts bruh

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Bigpappy3353d ago (Edited 3353d ago )

Obscure: you are so right. Not even Sony is talk about a PS5. But the fanboys want to have that conversation asap, because M$ is about the drop a monster that they know the pro will be loosing to for several years. You would think that the majority of games releasing on these consoles are Exclusive to said consoles. The truth is: the most popular games are games like COD, Elder Scrolls, Fallout, ME, Witcher, FF, FIFA, Over watch, Star Wars, Destiny, GTA, Battlefield, RDR...

Why o why3353d ago (Edited 3353d ago )

Lol.

Trust me. . If there are no games there will be little point of the Xbox Scorpio. Just hope that ms do better than they have been doing. . If they do then the Scorpio will be a force to be reckoned with.

Loving the old played out downplay of exclusives since your brand of favour has little. . Can't you see why the ps is curb stomping the Xbox. . . You think it's just power or the bodged reveal. . . Wake up bigpappy, even some of the most staunch Xbox supporters are voicing concern and asking for more of what you downplay. Go spin your spin at them. Maybe hearing it from your own camp might make you understand a little better if at all

Nyxus3353d ago

A premium system like the Scorpio is only for a select group of people. You already see the same thing with the PS4 Pro. The majority is going to get the cheaper option.

Bigpappy3353d ago

It has always been the case that Sony had more studios than M$. Xbox will have exclusives too, but the games looking and running better will be the selling point. The pro isn't setting the world on fire, but the Scorpio is not the pro. The Scorpio will start hotter, then cool off until it is more affordable. But I expect it to do better than the pro because it had more hype upon release and I think the hype will be backed up.

Chevalier3353d ago

The truth is those games are all on PS4 where they sell the most and move the most hardware. Fact.

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Microsoft Gaming Revenue Drops 7% Year-on-Year, Content and Services Down 5%, Xbox Hardware Down 33%

Microsoft announced its financial results for Q3 of fiscal year 2026, including an update on its gaming Xbox business and more.

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Jin_Sakai16d ago (Edited 16d ago )

Not looking good. Hopefully Asha Sharma is able to turn Phil’s disaster around.

dveio16d ago

To me it's still quite remarkable how they can cash-in 5.3bn in revenue in a single quarter, since their hardware is basically dead.

Jingsing16d ago

The stock mark is what makes Microsoft remarkable, They have convinced every institutional and retail investor to just keep piling money into them. Like many big tech giants they are just a big growing pyramid scheme. As long as people keep dropping money into ETF's that cover the market Microsoft will always be liquid. At the same time it is completely stifling innovation and competition. People need to start being more discreet in how they invest their money as it's killing the system.

Tanktopmaster9216d ago

Once they re-evaluate exclusive all will be fine….

S2Killinit16d ago

Riiiiight because people will just flock back to them for one or two games per year.

Jingsing16d ago

15+ years of bad performance is what they call irreparable in business. It is time for them to sell off the assets and get out of entertainment.

Tanktopmaster9216d ago

These declines are on the back of extra revenue received from releasing games like Forza horizon 5 on PlayStation. So I’m being sarcastic here when I said they should go back to exclusives. Killing off a revenue stream from Ps5 sales will only make things worse

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Games Done Quick is coming to Europe for the first time with 3 days of Gamescom speedruns

The charity event will be streamed live from Gamescom in August.

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Steam Controller (2026) review

Second time's the charm.

cl198317d ago (Edited 17d ago )

Seams like a nice controller

Reaper22_16d ago

Two analog sticks acrossvftom each other is a no go.When will everyone learn.