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Digital Foundry Nintendo Switch review

Nintendo Switch is the most powerful dedicated gaming handheld ever made, but the challenges facing it are considerable. It's a hybrid device battling on th…

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stuna13379d ago

Don't expect major 3rd party titles to reach the Switch, and if they do expect significant downgrades! Also of note physically demanding titles expect a little over 3 hours of play time at 50% to low settings.

SoulMikeY3379d ago

Common knowledge. That is posted like 15 times a day...

No one would ever buy 3rd parties on it even if they were. They buy Nintendo for the exclusives. Most of us have a ps4 for the rest.

stuna13379d ago

This is not what I said, it's what the video said.

captainexplosion3379d ago (Edited 3379d ago )

I would buy some 3rd parties on Switch for the portability.

rdgneoz33378d ago

"They buy Nintendo for the exclusives."

And look at how well the WiiU sold...

kevnb3378d ago

The 3ds got major third party games, I can't see why the switch won't get some.

XanderZane3378d ago

Different hardware. The developers would have to completely do the game over to run on the Switch. The game probably wouldn't sell as well as it does on the 3DS.

Jiggy7d3379d ago

Nothing new here, just Nintendo trying their best to continue being irrelevant. Overpriced, underpowered.........at this point the only selling point they have left is: Zelda and their brand name. Now if this is enough for some people, it certainly isn't for me.

JEECE3379d ago

While I'll agree with you that Nintendo has been irrelevant for awhile in the home console space, the same cannot be said for the portable market. The 3ds won't match the DS, but it is has managed to sell a very respectable number of units even in the smartphone era. Switch looks to be more of a portable than a home console, so I think that has to be considered.

blady_man3379d ago

I agree, i love the idea of being able to play zelda on the go!!

JEECE3379d ago

@blady_man

Let's just hope we get more good open world games like that on Switch. In a lot of good ways Switch reminds me of Vita, but I hope it gets a better stream of high-end titles rather than just Indies.

I'd love to see Rockstar bring over some of their PS2 games in a collection to the Switch (I mean I'd love to see them make new games for switch, but that seems unrealistic).

Gaming4Life19813379d ago (Edited 3379d ago )

@jiggy7d

I completely agree with everything you said but I am also one of those people buying a switch only for zelda. But totally honest I'll probably sell on EBay or Craigslist for like 500 or 600 after I beat zelda this weekend. I know I'll get disagrees and I am truly going to do it because people will pay that much and I can use that money for something important. The only games I wanted was zelda and Mario anyway so making double profit off it will be great.

@jeece

I agree nintendo owns the handheld space even with nothing but smartphones in everyone's hands. That's why the switch is so confusing to me because they say it's a hybrid system but console first but when they say that their will be games that will only work in portable mode, that makes me wonder.

IGN said it best "As a handheld, the Switch is a powerful piece of hardware with a gorgeous screen, but it's too large and power hungry to feel like you can really take it anywhere. As a console, it’s underpowered, unreliable, and lacking basic features and conveniences that all of its competitors offer.

_-EDMIX-_3379d ago

@gaming- stop worrying about how Nintendo wants to Market this thing.

At the end of the day multiple reviewers and even before your own very eyes show you that this is a handheld

"but when they say that their will be games that will only work in portable mode,"

That is simply because the actual Dock is the accessory that's the option, the actual handheld device is not , you need that in order to do anything with the actual dock as you still need the device that actually play games off of in the first place.

I think that simply means that if enough consumers are not playing this on their television you're going to see developers actually not support the accessory if it cost them too much for a specific Market that's actually not using certain features.

No different than you saw a lot of developers not support PlayStation 3 motion control despite it being in every single PlayStation 3

No different than not seeing a lot of developers support Kinect

They're going to support the accessory for as much as consumers actually support it but if you look at the raw numbers 60 million people purchase the 3DS

Only 14 million purchased the Wii U so it is definitely feasible that the majority of people that purchase this device might only use it as a handheld.

If that's the case you have to understand that many developers will simply just use the touchscreen functionality as opposed to a outing to the television if they feel the majority of users prefer the touchscreen functionality over playing on a television.

The analogy I used with the PlayStation 3 motion controller is literally 1.1 developers did not support it simply because enough consumers we're not using it even with it being in every single system

So if the same actually happens with the switch in regards to most people just using it as a handheld expect that naturally a lot of developers will choose to use the touchscreen as opposed to outing to the television. ( if touchscreen applies to their game that is )

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stuna13379d ago

The thing is people were already calling it, but certain individuals were confident that the Switch was on the level of even the original Xbox 1 and PS4 even though signs were pointing in the opposite direction. As a handheld it is a more than capable machine, but Nintendo is quoted as saying it's a home console first and foremost.

_-EDMIX-_3378d ago

Agreed

I believe that was a big mistake on their part I understand they want to maintain 3DS sales and try to make this look different but the problem is they're also hurting the actual platform by masquerading it as something else there are people that even believe that the system itself is inside the dock and this is simply just a sequel to the Wii U and that's not the great way of kicking off a new platform.

The comparisons to PlayStation 4 and Xbox One are going to hurt this company in regards to software so I think during E3 or another press event they need to quickly address this because people are going to keep pointing out the glass half empty.

With every major Triple A PlayStation 4 and Xbox one as well as PC announcement you're going to see the inevitable where is the Switch version? This is not going to help the platform being reminded every single announcement of what it's not getting , they need to focus on what it is doing and what it is getting.

People were not out here comparing the 3DS to PlayStation 3 , you did not see every single release be questioned why there was not a 3DS version simply because people understood it was a different Market.

I honestly don't think Nintendo had anything to worry about simply coming out and saying that this is their most powerful dedicated handheld or even simply just calling it a hybrid and not addressing the other Market but by trying to pretend it's one of those other platforms they're only showing the comparison to what it's not getting and what it lacks and I think that is a big mistake.

We might have literally three years of his current platforms so we're just going to be seeing an absolute onslaught of games that are not going to be coming to the switch and I think we would not be even making those comparisons if it wasn't for Nintendo's bizarre marketing and how they've chosen to address what this platform is.

Everyone with eyes and half a brain is telling people that this is a handheld because that is what it is

playing on the television does not negate its portability.

Nintendo could say whatever they feel like it at the end of the day they designed the screen battery GPU CPU motherboard heatsink and all the other components of this device to be a portable device they could say whatever they want in terms of their stupid jargon in regards to how they're desperately trying to Market this away from their other product but at the end of the day , common sense is going to win out

this is a portable device.

They were probably better off just giving the 3DS the Swan Song and confirming to people that this is their successor now they have consumers like myself playing the waiting game to see if they're going to abandon one platform in favor of another they're actually hurting the support of the switch by actually not confirming such a thing because it's going to leave consumers believing that they're just going to support something else with more games similar to 3DS vs Wii U

stuna13378d ago

@EDMIX

Bingo! People don't realize how crucial the release and reception of the Switch is! If the Switch is being praised for what it does right in the home console side of things it's obvious that's the direction that Nintendo's marketing will take, but as the reviews are now flowing out, and reviewers are leaning more to an affinity toward the handheld aspects of the Switch ultimately I believe that is the overall direction Nintendo will eventually steer their marketing campaign once it releases.

My guess is Nintendo is waiting to see what standout properties or aspects of the Switch consumers latch on to, the home console attributes, or the handheld attributes!? Whichever side wins out, that is where Nintendo is going to focus their marketing power behind.

I personally believe that Nintendo made a fatal flaw by completely discontinuing the WII U, because if consumers don't take to the home console attributes of the Switch, there's could have still been the potential to continue selling the WII U alongside the Switch. Now there's the possibility of a void being there.

If the handheld attributes of the Switch becomes the driving factor as far as adoption goes, the Switch will start encroaching upon the 3DS performance and sales! And if that happens I don't think both of them could flourish in the same space! One would have to go. We already know which one, but it would put Nintendo in a bad light because they've already stated the 3DS wouldn't be replaced by the Switch. But something would have to be done if they in fact started affecting each others sales.

Gaming4Life19813378d ago

"but Nintendo is quoted as saying it's a home console first and foremost"

Exactly that's what I was saying.......I'll find out on Friday when I get it but zelda is the saving grace of the switch and if it wasn't for that it would flop.

ILostMyMind3378d ago

It is not underpowered for a portable device. I liked but it is really overpriced.

Dre1803378d ago

You're right nothing new here. Just another person bashing the switch bc it doesn't have high end specs. the price for a hybrid device is more than okay imo. Why is all about power with people? That doesn't make a game good, the developer does. And news flash for you, Nintendo games - and it's more than just Zelda are continually some of the highest rated out there - even on systems that lagged way behind in tech specs. If they are so important, tell me why that is?

Secondly most people don't game on just the switch. They have multiple systems albeit a PS4 or X1 (maybe even both like myself) so how many systems do you need to play the same games? It's not an end all be all.. It doesn't have to be one way or the other.

Nintendo is trying hard this time around. They are not going to abandon this system. It will sell very decently and i believe the support will come to it when it does. I wish people would give it a chance, instead of rooting for it to fail.

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conanlifts3379d ago

I find it interesting digital foundry are quoting the same clock speeds. To my knowledge these have only ever been rumours and their previous gpu analysis was riddled with flaws. Of course they might be correct, but they either need to show how they have confirmed the speeds for certain or label it a rumour.
Otherwise it was a good review.

ShadowWolf7123378d ago

Do... do you not know what Digital Foundry does?

Serious question.

conanlifts3378d ago (Edited 3378d ago )

Yes i do. This is the reason i expect them to be certain of something and the reason i stated until it was 100% confirmed they should label it a rumour. Like i said i am not saying they are wrong. But their specs are rumours or estimates still. If they want to confirm them they need to either have shown updated info or perform a teardown of the chip.
When foxconn announced switch gpu was running at around 912mhz docked digital foundry disagreed with this. Their reason quoted was that it couldn't be this due to the battery life. That is the reason they didn't adjust the estimated clock speed. This docked speed has no bearing on battery life at all, yet this was their statement in their article. So as i said their info might be correct, but they shouldn't label something as true unless it is 100% confirmed, particularly when their article contains errors like this.

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ShadowWolf7123378d ago

Dude, they actually have the thing in their hands, they can run tests and confirm specs. It's what they do, and WHY the console makers actually give them the consoles to analyze more often than not.

If you seriously think they're still going off "old rumored specs" at this point, you might be in denial.

conanlifts3378d ago

Yes but they have not run the tests to confirm the specs thats my point. Release the test results if they have been done so that it cant be disputed. That's all i am saying.

FanMan3379d ago

I think it's interesting how most reviews comment on the less than stellar kickstand. While CNET definitely was trying to make a huge deal out of a small one, it does seem that there was some truth to their video.

_-EDMIX-_3379d ago

Their job is to convey such things to the consumer so where they not supposed to say anything despite seeing this issue?

This is a $300 device so I would expect them to have a more solid kickstand and I was absolutely shocked how easily that little plastic comes apart.

I definitely see that as something that gets corrected with one of their revisions, possibly having a wider one with the placement being closer to the center.

conanlifts3378d ago

I think the reviews should identify the flaws. Particularly if there are syncing issues. From my perspective i will not be impressed if my joy cons fail to stay connected. The stand also needs to be stable. If for any reason the stand fails and caused damage then i would certainly be holding Nintendo responsible.

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