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FallenAngel19843363d ago

"We thought the PSP and then the PS Vita would be able to deliver console-quality graphics in a handheld form, ironically, it looks like its the graphically power-shy Nintendo who are going to deliver the first true version of an on-the-go console."

PSP and Vita did deliver on those console quality games on the go promises. There were many games released on those platforms that had some parity with the PS2/Wii and PS3/360 versions respectively. Nintendo just seems to have finally given up on Gunpei Yokoi's time tested successful "Lateral Thinking with Withered Technology" philosophy that has carried their handhelds to success over the past 28 years over the more powerful handhelds of the time and just made a powerful handheld of their own.

skydragoonityx3363d ago

The last primary console nintendo made was the 64

PeaSFor3363d ago

was too busy with my ps1, that say i still really liked my n64.

QUIMICOMORTAL3363d ago

Hell no! PS had a ton more games and more diversified.

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_-EDMIX-_3363d ago

Agreed the biggest problem I have with this assumption in such a stupid statement is that that's technically only relative to the console that released previously and technically speaking when the PSP released it was stronger than the PlayStation 2 in many areas.

All anyone has to do is look at comparisons of Kingdom Hearts Birth by Sleep and Kingdom Hearts 2 or Grand Theft Auto Vice City versus Grand Theft Auto Vice City Stories or even God of War 2 vs. God of War ghost of Sparta to actually see that the PSP very much had a console quality games.

Even if it was not one hundred percent 1.1 the same thing it was still in the ballpark of that platform and that's completely undeniable

As to why anybody would say such a thing is beyond me.

What's even stranger is there ignoring Games like World of Final Fantasy exist on PlayStation 4 and Playstation Vita.

What the switch is actually doing is no different than what PSP and Playstation Vita just previously did in regards to console quality titles.

I agree it's about time Nintendo just makes this powerful handheld on their own and move away from dedicated home console

Imalwaysright3363d ago

" PSP released it was stronger than the PlayStation 2 in many areas. "

What?! What areas?

"What's even stranger is there ignoring Games like World of Final Fantasy exist on PlayStation 4 and Playstation Vita"

https://www.youtube.com/wat... You mean this game? Really?!

"What the switch is actually doing is no different than what PSP and Playstation Vita just previously did in regards to console quality titles."

Show me any game with the budget that AAA home consoles games require on any of those handhelds like Breath of the Wild.

"I agree it's about time Nintendo just makes this powerful handheld on their own and move away from dedicated home console"

You can say whathever you want but the reality is that Nintendo isn't leaving the home console market http://wwg.com/2016/10/20/n...

Smokingunz3363d ago

Nah, nintendo has the money, resources, experience and the knowledge to make an on part or far superior powerful console than either Microsoft and Sony the real question is why don't they do it? If Nintendo actually listen to the gaming community they'll see that's what everybody wants but they're just stupid and stuck in there own ways.

My point is they could blow tne competing out of the water with a powerful machine if they wanted to. They did it before with the snes,gamecube and n64.

_-EDMIX-_3362d ago

@ima - "What?! What areas?"

https://www.google.com/amp/...

"Show me any game with the budget that AAA home consoles games require on any of those handhelds like Breath of the Wild"

???

What you're actually arguing about is not the concept of the quality of the title you're actually arguing about the time period in which the title is releasing , that's like saying if in 100 years we have a PlayStation Portable that has the quality of a PlayStation 20 that it would be the first time such a thing happened Will yes it would be the first time regarding the PlayStation 20 it would not be the first time a portable game has the quality of a previous console.

What I'm talking about is not the current , i'm not talking about the actuality of what the system is physically technically doing right now , I'm simply talking about the concept of a portable playing console quality games technically speaking breath of the wild is not the first time we've got such a level of quality in comparison to a handheld I'm not sure why you begin to speak literally on something that were talking about conceptually.

What I'm saying is it's not the first time we had a handheld that had the quality of a game that was a console game that released the generation prior or any format release the generation prior.

Kingdom Hearts Birth by Sleep or God of War ghost of Sparta or Grand Theft Auto Vice City Stories when you look at some of these games they're nearly identical to their PlayStation 2 counterparts.

What I'm bringing up is the comparison to the level of console games at that. And time something like that has already been done I never said anything about a platform that has released right now that is equivalent to the switch in regards to the actual Hardware in a literal sense I'm simply saying conceptually such a thing has happened the previous generations with handhelds.

Ie were you not able to play Ocarina of Time on the 3DS? Mind you Mario 64 was running on the DS so I would even say that Zelda Ocarina of Time was feasible on the DS, I mean technically speaking when you're not playing Link to the Past remake on Gameboy Advance?

I never said anything regarding their being a handheld that is doing 100% exactly what the switch is doing down to the physical Hardware I'm simply saying the concept but what it's doing is actually not brand-new to the gaming industry.

You're trying to argue a point based on the actual Hardware literally and that's actually never what I stated as it sounds like an easy cop-out to try to move the narrative towards the direction that nobody ever brought up other than you.

"What the switch is actually doing is no different than what PSP and Playstation Vita just previously did in regards to console quality titles"

Nowhere does that state that the PSP is equivalent to the switch in regards to exact technical performance and I'm not entirely sure how any human being could read that and believe that's what that meant.

😂😂😂&# 128514;. Do you seriously have a reading comprehension problem? Did you seriously not understand I was referring to the concept of what we considered console quality for the time that that handheld released?

RosweeSon3363d ago

Vita done this pretty well they just didn't do any further games to show off the power, Uncharted. Killzone and even virtua tennis all looked just as good as the console versions.

Scatpants3363d ago

Is it really more powerful though? The graphics look like 360 level. If the Vita had been made today it would look the same.

QUIMICOMORTAL3363d ago

Very simple, no console without 3rd party can be a primary console.

PERIOD!

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PhoenixUp3363d ago

Switch is missing out on a lot more than just Netflix to make it most people's primary console of choice.

higgins783363d ago

Such as? Consider also both PS4/XB1 missing out on games available exclusively for the Switch is a BIG miss likewise.

zivtheawesome3363d ago

but for claiming that ps4 is missing nintendo exclusives, i can say the exact same thing to the switch. also i should add AAA support caused by weak hardware.

Aenea3363d ago

Besides the obvious PS/Xbox exclusives I'd say all the AAA multiplats that aren't on the Switch?

It will be an excellent secondary console though!

freshslicepizza3363d ago

@higgins
"Such as?"

such as? its called games. until nintendo can retain third party confidence they will continue to offer a secondary platform. when one system supports games in the hundreds over the course of 5 years while the others attain games in the amount of the thousands, its not going to cut it.

Goldby3363d ago

while being able to play Zelda on a console liek the ps4 or x1 would be nice, it isn't forcing me to go out and buy a Switch.

Zelda aint pulling me in enough to go waste 400$ on a tablet

stuna13363d ago

If someone already owns a Xbox or PS4 and buys a Switch how are they missing out on Switch's exclusives!? The question asked is can the Switch become your primary console!? For the most part most gamers even considering this question already own one or both of the aforementioned consoles and since the Switch hasn't released yet, the line of question is can the Switch become your primary console? To which I say no, and others are taking the same stance, because Xbox/PS4 are offering not only 1st party quality Exclusives, but also 2nd, 3rd and Independent party titles. Although Nintendo has wonderful 1st party exclusives, it's the 2nd, 3rd and Independent party titles that are in question when taking into account the outcome of the past few generation's concerning support given to Nintendo consoles.

Clunkyd3363d ago

Are you really downplaying PS4/XB1 lineup compared to the Switch? Look at Switch lineup again....there's nothing to look at. lol

Imalwaysright3363d ago

@ moldybread

To me EVERY console is a secundary platform. You being a PC gamer surely will understand why, right?

freshslicepizza3363d ago

Secondary to me yes, my main platform is the PC but both the PS4 and Xbox get enough support for console gamers to be considered a main system.

Imalwaysright3363d ago

But I have a PS4 and a Wii U. I am a console gamer and yet those 2 are secondary platforms to me.

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wonderfulmonkeyman3363d ago (Edited 3363d ago )

It could, but only time and games will tell.
Right now, my attention will still be split between it and my Wii U, since that's what I use for web browsing recently due to the game pad. Might also get a new game or two for PS3 soon, since there's lots of RPG's I never got for mine...

gbsrnctaln3363d ago

So you only have Nintendo systems? No PS or Xbox? If so...yikes, you are missing out on a LOT of games!

MrFisher213363d ago

I thought this same thing. Wow. You really limited your gaming experiences. I will own a Switch but it will be next to all of my other consoles.

Goldby3363d ago

read his comment he also has a ps3

wonderfulmonkeyman3363d ago (Edited 3363d ago )

*facepalm*
I have stated multiple times in the past that I both own and love a PS2 and PS3.
Just because neither are my primary doesn't mean I don't own them.
Hell, I said RIGHT THERE IN THE COMMENT YOU REPLIED TO that I was planning on getting a new game or two for my PS3!

And I KNOW that you've read prior statements from me where I've said I own Playstation systems. How many times do I have to state my love for games like Ar Tonelico, Ratchet&Clank, Kingdom Hearts, and many others before it sinks into your head that I'm a multiplatform gamer?XD

You are either blind, comprehension-impared, or one of the worst trolls I've ever met, to claim I don't own a system I just said I owned, and have admitted to owning, in your presence, multiple times in the past.XD

gbsrnctaln3363d ago

So....your only CURRENT GEN consoles are Nintendo... So you are indeed missing out on a buttload of games lol.

_-EDMIX-_3362d ago

Have you not seen his articles of excitement every single time some rumor comes out that some things possibly coming to the Wii U or the switch? Whats sad is it's very clear he has some sort of excitement towards these game

what's pathetic is that he has not purchased another platform to fill this void instead he's basically choosing to miss out by wanting to play these games.

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Antnee5343363d ago

It never can be my main, I'm a sony fan first through and through. Though this will be my main 2nd console I have always been a sucker for handheld consoles cause of my life style. Also because nintendo to me always makes better product than Microsoft but that's just an opinion.

demonicale3363d ago

Why give yourself the name of a "fan" thus limiting yourself. Does Sony pay you to be a butt kisser?.

deafdani3363d ago

I know it will become my primary console.

I own a Wii, PS3, Wii U and PS4, but they're all collecting dust simply because I'm a father of a 2 year old toddler so it's really, really hard to get some gaming time back at home.

Switch solves this issue for me, because I will be able to play it for a minimum of 1 hour daily at work, during lunchtime and right after work while I wait a bit for the traffic jams to clear up.

Sure, I could say the same about a 3DS or Vita, but those consoles are a bit lacking in the kind of games I want to play. They just aren't in the same level as the Switch. Screen size and resolution also play a big part on this.

This is why I'm so excited for the Switch and I'm getting it at launch.

deafdani3363d ago

Sorry, I realised that it sounded like I was downplaying the 3DS and Vita, and that wasn't my intention.

To make my point clearer, the Switch will, overall, have more of the kind of gaming experiences that I like. I have a 3DS, and have had it for years now (ambassador program and all that). Initially, I had a blast with it because of games like Mario 3D Land, Kid Icarus Uprising, Resident Evil Revelations, Mario Kart 7, New Super Mario Bros 2, Ocarina of Time 3D, Zelda Link Between Worlds, along with a few indies that I enjoyed immensely there.

As you can see, I favor big games with direct action. 3DS nowadays is more about tactical games and turn-based RPG's and the like, just like the DS before it. For someone that loves these games, 3DS and Vita are awesome. Not for me. Because of this, I haven't really played my 3DS much in years now. I'm not a fan of Pokémon, Fire Emblem, and the like.

Switch, on the other hand, is launching with Zelda Breath of the Wild, and will get Mario Kart 8 Deluxe, Splatoon 2, Xenoblade Chronicles 2, Mario Odyssey, Arms, etc. And we know it will eventually get a new Smash Bros, Mario Sports games, hopefully a new Metroid (they're way overdue already), etc... along with awesome indie content that I like. So I think I will probably appreciate it much more, and play it much more, than I ever did my 3DS. Simply put, it will have more games that fit my taste.

And again: screen size and resolution also play a big part on this. 3DS was nice when it launched, but after a few months, I upgraded to a 3DS XL... and it was great for a while, but it's looking really, really dated now. Heck, even the Wii U's gamepad screen looks very dated despite being the same exact size as the Switch's, because it's only 480p. The Switch screen, being 720p, will look pretty damn nice at that size, and will allow us to enjoy higher-end graphics than possible on 3DS or even Vita. Basically, Wii U-level graphics on the go, or better. This is a good thing.

blawren43363d ago

This exactly. the mobility and off tv play aspects are key for me as a parent and an adult.

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Microsoft Gaming Revenue Drops 7% Year-on-Year, Content and Services Down 5%, Xbox Hardware Down 33%

Microsoft announced its financial results for Q3 of fiscal year 2026, including an update on its gaming Xbox business and more.

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Jin_Sakai16d ago (Edited 16d ago )

Not looking good. Hopefully Asha Sharma is able to turn Phil’s disaster around.

dveio16d ago

To me it's still quite remarkable how they can cash-in 5.3bn in revenue in a single quarter, since their hardware is basically dead.

Jingsing16d ago

The stock mark is what makes Microsoft remarkable, They have convinced every institutional and retail investor to just keep piling money into them. Like many big tech giants they are just a big growing pyramid scheme. As long as people keep dropping money into ETF's that cover the market Microsoft will always be liquid. At the same time it is completely stifling innovation and competition. People need to start being more discreet in how they invest their money as it's killing the system.

Tanktopmaster9216d ago

Once they re-evaluate exclusive all will be fine….

S2Killinit16d ago

Riiiiight because people will just flock back to them for one or two games per year.

Jingsing16d ago

15+ years of bad performance is what they call irreparable in business. It is time for them to sell off the assets and get out of entertainment.

Tanktopmaster9216d ago

These declines are on the back of extra revenue received from releasing games like Forza horizon 5 on PlayStation. So I’m being sarcastic here when I said they should go back to exclusives. Killing off a revenue stream from Ps5 sales will only make things worse

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Steam Controller (2026) review

Second time's the charm.

cl198317d ago (Edited 17d ago )

Seams like a nice controller

Reaper22_17d ago

Two analog sticks acrossvftom each other is a no go.When will everyone learn.

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Forefront VR Review - Battlefield Comes to VR — and it Actually Works | Terminal Gamer

TG writes: If you’ve ever wanted that chaotic, large-scale modern warfare feeling from Battlefield but in full VR immersion, Forefront delivers it better than anything else currently available on Quest.

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