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Bluetooth audio 'impossible' with Nintendo Switch

Today in disappointing news from Nintendo, we learned that the Nintendo Switch is not compatible with wireless Bluetooth headsets.

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rjason123352d ago

That's really dumb, Ian it too much to ask for a jack on the pro controller?

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DJ3350d ago

Agreed, it would have been simple to include. I use the jack on my PS4 controller all the time to play games and watch movies with my noise cancelling headphones. It's absolute bliss.

EddieNX 3350d ago

No, it Iant... And Ian would know...

G20WLY3350d ago

He's making a fair point, but sure, ignore it and focus on a typo...that's worthwhile.

It makes no sense not to have this feature. Some systems have had this for years now and it seems to be a negligible cost, so..?

Sono4213350d ago

lol G20WLY that's EddieNX you're talking to... of course he won't acknowledge a valid point. The Switch could cost the same price as the PS4 and Xbox one with an online service that only rivals services from over 10 years ago and even weaker specs than the Xbox one and PS4 with the only one gimmick of being able to play nintendo games on the go (which you could already do with a 3ds). With severely overpriced peripherals and almost neceserary other purchases such as a battery pack, more storage, Ethernet port adapter(WTF) and a pro controller. And he would still defend it to his dying breath (of the wild) ;) oh wait... that's sadly a reality.. not to mention the fact that you need to do voice chat over your smart device.. yeah... revolutionary.

I don't see how people expect the switch to sell more than the Wii U when it is the Wii U on the go.. another Nitnendo games only console. Well except it's actually a handheld.. but you know.

CannonB83350d ago (Edited 3350d ago )

Deleed

XStation4pio_Pro3350d ago

It is dumb. Having both Bluetooth and a jack is fantastic. I have the Sony platinum headset and you literally just turn them on and go. Great for multiplayer due to it's built in mic and sim'd 7.1, great for playing games alone, great for watching movies. Also you can use pretty much any headphones thru the controller, but not having wires is surprisingly liberating.

Utalkin2me3350d ago

@EddieNX

I honestly believe Eddie works for Nintendo.

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NotoriousWhiz3350d ago

Maybe they'll go the Xbox one route and include it in the 2nd version of the pro controller.

3-4-53350d ago

Have to make cuts to cost somewhere to keep it in the $300 range while being as powerful as it is.

rjason123349d ago

I'm a big ninty fan, prob one of its bigger defenders on this site. But there are just some things that absolutely can not be defended. I mean if it is able to use bluetooth headsets that's one thing (though it's looking like a no) but to not have any option other than using the systems jack is just stupid (similar to the Wii U)

@sono
On another note I personally think this thing is guaranteed to outsell the Wii U. The Switch has had more advertisements and buzz about it (before it is even released) then the Wii U had in its entire lifetime.

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Tetsujin3352d ago

WOW! I hope in the future there's some support for Bluetooth, even if it's just for audio and not chat.

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jaymacx3350d ago

you can use this ... not really a big deal... https://www.amazon.com/Mpow...

PainUzumaki3350d ago

Yea im definitely not buying this thing

porkChop3350d ago

The other platforms don't support Bluetooth headsets either, so this is hardly a dealbreaker. I'm guessing the reasoning is due to the audio lag that usually comes with Bluetooth. Bluetooth is fine for phone calls and music, but the lag in game audio would make games unplayable.

I am curious why the Switch has Bluetooth 4.2 though, when the joy-cons only support Bluetooth 3.0. If 4.2 isn't being used for headphones, then what is it being used for?

KeeseToast3350d ago

"Bluetooth is fine for phone calls and music, but the lag in game audio would make games unplayable."

No, just no. This is such a bunch of BS. Bluetooth Headsets are fine for gaming and even the Vita supports them. There is no excuse for Nintendo not including even the simplest features, so stop trying to defend everything. If you don't care about those features, fine theres nothing wrong with that, but people nare definitely not asking for too much.

Knushwood Butt3350d ago

@ Keese

For sure. I use Bluetooth audio with my Vita and there is no issue.

Vegamyster3350d ago

KeeseToast

The only reason i can think of is the joycon controllers, they each have there own bluetooth signal so a 3rd one might interfere with the connection too much.

KwietStorm_BLM3350d ago

Anything wireless has some amount of lag, even if it's not noticable. Unplayable is a very strong word. It sounds like you've never played any multiplayer in your life with a wireless headset.

porkChop3350d ago (Edited 3350d ago )

@Kwiet

I have a wireless headset, and the lag isn't noticeable. But the only pair of Bluetooth headphones I've used that didn't require a special dongle, and didn't sound like it had more than a second of lag, was like $150+. In competitive games that kind of lag would be an issue for game audio, not chat.

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FallenAngel19843350d ago

@ pork

PS4 does in fact support Bluetooth headsets. Or are you telling me that my using one is just an imagination

Iceman X3350d ago

The PS4 does not support any bluetooth mics at all.

Liqu1d3350d ago

PS4 doesn't support bluetooth audio devices.

porkChop3350d ago

What Bluetooth headset are you using? I don't know why you're getting so many agrees when it is a fact that the PS4 doesn't support Bluetooth headsets or headphones. Go ahead and try to pair a Bluetooth headset with your PS4.

Liqu1d3350d ago

I'm assuming he's taking about headsets with dongles because it is known fact that if you pair a bluetooth audio device you will get a notification telling you that bluetooth audio devices are not supported.

jaymacx3350d ago (Edited 3350d ago )

any device can use bluetooth as long as it has 3.5 mm jack.. https://www.amazon.com/Mpow...

KwietStorm_BLM3350d ago

I guess it is your imagination because PS4 does not support audio over Bluetooth. But hey PlayStation disagree force is out and about again.

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Summons753350d ago

Bluetooth sounds like crap and eats battery life...but throw a fit see if anyone cares.

Utalkin2me3350d ago

My Bluetooth audio-technica says other wise. And its about portability and not having a bunch of wires and crap. Just another miss from Nintendo, not surprised. And im also not surprised you defending as your normally do.

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Take-Two CEO Once Again Side Steps Grand Theft Auto 6 Price Point

Strauss Zelnick says price of GTA 6 is being carefully considered and that Rockstar is focused on "making the most spectacular piece of entertainment on Earth."

Kuma1d 12h ago

If GTA 6 abandons everything that made GTA 5 great, it will crash and burn right out of the gate. GTA 5 was funny and not at all PC. My worry is that they will cave to the PC crowd and ruin the vibes.

Eonjay1d 8h ago

They got freaking BBLs twerking on the top of trucks for the gram, the freaking Flordia joker, and dude running down the stree in their undies and you are worried about it being 'too PC'? The internet has runied gamers. It doesn't matter how non-PC they make the game, you will all listen to the grifters telling you not to believe your lying eyes lol.

gigoran81d 5h ago

"Rockstar Games’ co-founder and former VP of Development Jamie King said he envisions GTA 6 as a game that’s “maybe not quite as edgy or quite as funny” as its satirical predecessors."

oh yeah, totally internet grifters spreading rumors...

blacktiger1d 5h ago

That's part of the plan, they destroyed you but they need to destroy the shareholders? Only 1 shre holder is the true elite that don't care

1nsomniac1d 11h ago (Edited 1d 11h ago )

Meh.., if it’s above £55 I ain’t buying it.

Rockstar are genuinely not half the company they used to be. I was a die hard GTA fan I’ve purchased every game and expansion and spin off day 1.

My opinion of GTA6 is that I can take it or leave it. Not bothered. They burnt too many bridges.

DaReapa1d 7h ago (Edited 1d 7h ago )

So they're actually leaving the door open for an L.A. Noire sequel? Nice!

VaNdAl1d 6h ago (Edited 1d 6h ago )

He should just come out and say it already it's getting stupid it's going to be a 100 bucks $200 for the special edition🤡🤡; 29315;🤣♿

Storm231d 5h ago

I won't be getting this game until I can get it for $70. SHoot, I could wait for it to be even lower. I don't need the game that badly as my backlog is still huge and I am enjoying playing other things.

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Talking Aliens: The Video Games With Author Mike Diver

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Xbox boss: Memory crisis could impact next-gen hardware pricing

Xbox boss Asha Sharma has discussed how component shortages will impact the company's plans for Project Helix.

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Eonjay2d ago

When does this end? Its killing everyone. Consoles and PC. And for what? AI? The benefits of AI are completely outweighed by the negatives. And the government should have never allowed one company to buy up all the RAM.

Lexreborn23d ago

This kind of proves this is an after thought product, most products like this are in r&d 5 years before they start mass producing. So they typically have the cost of components and things worked out long before assembly starts.

This is an assumption still, but I wouldn’t be surprised if project helix is similar to Scalebound,perfect dark and sod3. They had an idea but no actual execution other than concept stage. Being impacted by the ram shortage likely would also put this device 3-4 years out.

I’m not even sure MS has that endurance with Xbox yet

Fishy Fingers3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

I mean.... what?

We're at a point that Samsung wont even provide their own phone department ram because they can sell it at higher prices to 3rd parties (AI). Its more profitable to sell the ram than make their own devices with it.

You think because R&D starts 5 years ago the 3rd party component manufacturers will honour that price? They'll sell it to whomever is paying the most today, not some gentlemens agreement they made years ago. AI farms will buy more volume at higher prices than any console manufacturer will. It'll be the same for Playstation.

Lexreborn22d ago

Contractual agreements are not the same as “gentlemen” agreements. If you think that they work with their distributors a month before production then their entire business model is trash. They work with companies like nvidia constantly for building the graphics cards they need. They work with companies that build motherboards years in advance. This is what proper business planning does.

They are not buying components on a whim like a consumer. So again, considering the ram isn’t a singular module and is integrated into the motherboard I highly doubt they wouldn’t have a final schematic that they are supposed to be building around.

If they are delaying production another 3 years then it’s obvious again this is an after though project and is just trying to be responsive to their bad execution they had the last 14 years.

It also isn’t far fetched to use their failure to produce first party titles the last 7 years including the highly anticipated games I mentioned all being cancelled. That they would continue to you know… lie

Sitdown3d ago

You don't really know how this works huh?

Profchaos3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

Helix is going to be stupidly expensive

Instead of leaning into smarter upscaling techniques they're brute forcing hardware that will cost them dearly and it remains to be seen if it's genuinely going to provide a meaningful differential

I know in the oc.doace people like to brag about not using frame gen or dlss to get to high on a game but for the majority of players they happily use those technologies without a second thought

That's going to be ps6 vs Helix

Eonjay2d ago

Yeah with FSR 5 they should be able to offer a much cheaper version of Helix.

Eonjay2d ago

While this does seem to be the case, I am encouraged by the statement from Microsoft about wanting to provide affordable options. If this means a Series S style Helix, at least there will be something affordable being offered.

XBManiac2d ago

Series S is what has killed Xbox Series so... Will they dare?

blacktiger3d ago

It's called systematic inflationary. Yes we get it Microsoft, keep raising in the name ofall kinds of stuffs

pwnmaster30003d ago

Honestly if there was thing I learned from this generation is that new consoles arnt day one anymore.
I can wait 1-3 years.

DarXyde3d ago

Another important lesson from this generation: while Nintendo showed us that prices don't necessarily need to ever drop, we've now learned that waiting 1-3 years does carry some risk that prices increase. This generation is just bizarre in all the wrong ways.

LucasRuinedChildhood3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

The factors are largely external. Covid and Russia-Ukraine war causing inflation led to the first price increase in 2022.

Then we get Trump's tariffs increasing hardware prices, AI boom causing a RAM crisis, war on Iran causing a worldwide fuel crisis which impacts the cost of everything.

Gaming doesn't exist in a vacuum. The last few years have been a shitshow and lot of it was definitely avoidable.

DarXyde2d ago

LucasRuinedChildhood,

For sure. No disagreement on the external factors doing a lot of this. Where I have to gently push back however is on two fronts:

1. The pandemic definitely caused some issues: asynchronous development was a big issue and really complicated timelines and affected game quality. At the same time, when it comes to price hikes, it's really difficult to know what was genuine necessity and what was taking consumers for a ride. The pandemic brought about "stag-flation" which was increasing prices and stagnant wages, which was a problem caused by supply chain constraints. There was also "Greed-flation", where companies that were slightly affected or had no issues took advantage of the situation and squeezed everyone citing supply chain issues when there were none.

2. It's definitely true that the tariffs, AI boom, and RAM crisis were all things enabled by tech broligarchs throwing money at this caricature of a world leader, one of them being Satya Nadella. I don't think Sony and Nintendo have contributed much to this problem if at all, but Microsoft's Nadella I feel was instrumental in causing every one of those issues. Microsoft as a company contributed to both candidates (though they gave Harris 4x as much if I recall), but Nadella was all in on letting AI run wild. He paid for unregulated AI, and got a war that's not a war (even though Trump called it that at least five times on television) that screwed up helium access. So for me, I feel that one of the players in the gaming industry is a key architect of these issues, and for that reason I struggle a bit to think of it as "external".

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