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Microsoft Can’t Save Xbox by Themselves

Microsoft is planning on producing more first-party titles than they have before, but that may not be enough.

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GtR35olution3374d ago

Xbox will be a service on pcs soon judging by a lot of moves ive been seeing by microsoft.

LexHazard793374d ago

Xbox Live is already the service.

Kingthrash3603374d ago (Edited 3374d ago )

He didn't say xbox live...he said xbox.
I been saying this for a while now. If you look at what they are doing, nothing elae makes sense. They are making xbox hardware lose value. And software gain value. The are a software company, I can't see any other reason why they would eliminate exclusives close studios and force mp games and cancel games that had trouble integrating mp in their once sp games....fable, scalebound are victims of that. They consistently lose money on hardware so why not just make xbox an online service.

RpgSama3374d ago

@Kingthrash360

Even Phantom Dust, before it was cancelled not the current remaster but the remake, they wanted a MP focused game that they wanted to make an eSport Title.

bluefox7553374d ago

Hardware has never really been Microsoft's strong point, certainly not where they make most of their money.

candystop3374d ago

If MS starts bringing the exclusives again plus some I will most definitely support them and dont give a rats azz if they're to appear on PC as well.

TheCommentator3374d ago

Kingthrash: "They are making Xbox hardware lose value."

He didn't say Xbox hardware, he said Xbox. MS software and services are up which adds value to the product line. Xbox hardware is still of value, but now people can play on different devices and aren't limited to having to own the console. Who cares where we choose to play Xbox games? Xbox gamers have choice. Choice adds always adds value.

BTW, if you want to talk about adding value to the HW:

XB1S has a 4K BluRay player, 4K upscaling, HDR, Faster GPU and memory. MS has added BC, Cortana, streamlined the OS and made more power available for games, mod support, crossplay/buy, etc....

darthv723374d ago

@thrash, since when has hardware ever had any value in any generation? It's always been about software. That is where the real value of a platform is found. MS is a software company that is looking to make playing games available to the masses in varying ways. You want to tell me that is a bad idea? If a consumer buys a system to play the games... good. If they use their PC to play the games... good. Either way they are playing the games. That is what gaming has ALWAYS been about. People playing games no matter what they play them on.

sounds like you want console segregation instead of gaming integration.

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JasonKCK3373d ago

All games are software, and MS are a software company. Xbox was designed to push software.

IGiveHugs2NakedWomen3373d ago (Edited 3373d ago )

If Scorpio fails to make an impact, Microsoft will take Xbox all digital and they'll sell plastic boxes with controllers that will allow access to Xbox Live where you'll buy your games on PC and Xbox.

tinynuggins3373d ago

@kingthrash,

what would ms do for the millions of gamers out there that have no desire to buy a gaming pc? Seem like they would be leaving 50+ million console gamers without a place to play games.

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GorillaTact3374d ago

You are assuming the Xbox brand is in trouble. It is not.

yeahright23374d ago

Except it is. Don't just look at sales, you need to keep in mind the shareholders want xbox gone. It doesn't make MS money. Now xbox as a service for PC, that can make money. "Xbox" won't go away as long as they keep the name, their hardcore fans will remain happy and champion the move, probably become PC elitists overnight. I foresee the scorpio being the last traditional console and after that, you'll get an xbox branded PC that will be what steam machines were trying to be.

goatking3374d ago

Fanboys are going to fanboy. First xbox sold horrible compared to the ps2, should 360 not have existed then? Should the switch not exist because of the wii u bomb. They make money on each xbox one sold. For what xbox is to microsoft its just worth keeping around. They may not sell as much as ps4, but its sold a respectable amount that its doing fine. Xbox live and the xbox store make bank and are more than enough to make it worth it for xbox to be kept around.

andrewsquall3374d ago

"their hardcore fans will remain happy and champion the move, probably become PC elitists overnight"
SO true, that actually happened already with a lot of them the day Mark Cerny said "8gbs GDDR5" at the PS4 reveal almost 4 years ago. Suddenly there were thousands more "meh PC gaming is where its at" people that showed up out of nowhere.

GorillaTact3374d ago

It is not in trouble kids, and the shills among you can gtfo. As Ive mentioned before there have only been 2 things that have brought about the catastrophic end to a console brand. One was extremely stagnate software due to a lack of hardware progression. The other was an all or nothing investment without long term sustaining capitol. Xbox has neither of these issues, the current situation is contrary to both of these things actually. What you are seeing is a shill website fear mongering for hits over what amounts to a bump in the road.

yeahright23374d ago

@goat king, ambiguity, my bad. By doesn't make MS money, I didn't mean it doesn't Microsoft money they can put in the bank. I meant it doesn't make the amount of money MS is used to (ie windows). They make some money, especially now that costs have gone down, but you can tell they're more concerned with XBL numbers than number of X1 units sold.

morganfell3374d ago (Edited 3374d ago )

It is in trouble. And if Scorpio doesn't sell like the greatest console ever, MS will be out of the console business. Here is their plan:

http://www.pcgamer.com/phil...

With this they can walk away from the hardware business completely. They will then have both of the last two generations on PC while driving sales of a MS staple - Windows OS.

EpicZinger3374d ago (Edited 3374d ago )

Xbox brand is in trouble. Halo and gears are declining. New IPs are failing miserably. Ps4 is beating the crap outta xbox in sales globally.

"It is not in trouble kids, and the shills among you can gtfo. As Ive mentioned before there have only been 2 things that have brought about the catastrophic end to a console brand. One was extremely stagnate software due to a lack of hardware progression. The other was an all or nothing investment without long term sustaining capitol. Xbox has neither of these issues, the current situation is contrary to both of these things actually. What you are seeing is a shill website fear mongering for hits over what amounts to a bump in the road.
AGREE 2"

Says the microshaft shill. lmao

GorillaTact3374d ago (Edited 3374d ago )

morganfell
EpicZinger

I was sure there were shills in the group, because an adult wouldnt buy into this middle school playground mentality for free. The middle school playground thought Nintendo was doomed because of the WiiU, they also thought Sony was doomed because of the PS3, and now they think that Xbox is doomed because of the Xbox One. Its not happening, no matter how much you make by posting on key gaming sites and communities.

No one above 15yrs old(and probably quiet a few below that) is buying what you are selling so gtfo. Thanks for giving up your usernames willingly though.

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creeping judas3373d ago

@yeahright, any proof that shareholders want the xbox gone? I'd be interested in reading that!

yeahright23373d ago

@creeping
https://www.washingtonpost....

happy reading. took a 2 second google search to find it.

@shaggy. Ah, good point. That would be a challenge as I'm sure they love the xbl numbers. Even if MS tried something with UWP I doubt they'd be willing to deal with the backlash. xbox changing to PC gamers might be ok with it but that wouldn't last. Thanks Shaggy, gave me something to think about.

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Gazondaily3374d ago (Edited 3374d ago )

Lmao at the comments here. Gotta bookmark for the lols

slate913374d ago

Im not sure whats funnier, the comments or the amount of agrees these clowns get.

andrewsquall3374d ago

And there isn't enough space in the universe to bookmark the articles with your hilarious comments that need coming back to when you get owned/flipflop/180/contradict yourself SO many times.

denawayne3374d ago

The amount of Sony fanboys in MS articles is amazing. Especially in Scorpio articles.

Gazondaily3374d ago (Edited 3374d ago )

@andrewsquall

Lmao! Sure! You guys get routinely merked. All the time!

@denawayne
Haha of course they are. They pray to whatever deity they worship that Xbox dies. Foolish little souls 😂

GorillaTact3374d ago

lol agreed. Kids and shills man, they cant exist without each other on a gaming site.

gangsta_red3374d ago

@Septic

I remember when MS supposedly abandoned the OG Xbox, it was because they were leaving the console business, then after that Xbox 360 Microsoft was going to sell off the Xbox brand when the Nokia guy was coming on board to MS.

Every now and then we have to be reminded how awful the Xbox is doing and how very soon, whether it's tomorrow, next week or maybe 10 to 10,000 years from now the Xbox won't be around.

Why o why3374d ago (Edited 3374d ago )

You guys aren't focused on what actually matters. . Games. . .split hairs over who did what properly or the best. . How about being the best by providing the lifeblood of a console. . . Games. . Nothing trumps games lads.

Ms need to amend their ways and stop relying on 3rd parties or hype. They're far from out of this but groundwork that should have been cemented last gen was ineffective or managed badly. Ms can't afford to go into next gen like they did this one. Take the hit now but build for the next battle.

Gazondaily3374d ago

@Why

Oh I agree. But doesn't change the lunacy of the comments on here. Makes work more entertaining mind you xD

gangsta_red3374d ago (Edited 3374d ago )

@Why O Why

No one is arguing about the games though. The games will come no matter how few or how many. Even though I suspect no matter how many MS pumps out it still won't be enough for them.

What we are all shaking our heads at are the comments that month after month troll on how MS is abandoning the Xbox, how they won't provide any more games ever and other nonsensical comments up and down in what it seems every single Xbox article on this site.

It's getting seriously ridiculous as it was only just comical a year or two ago.

The best part are the VERY well known offenders who continuously push this narrative every single opportunity they get on this site.

Why o why3374d ago (Edited 3374d ago )

@G red and septic

Definitely, ms aren't going anywhere. I believe they'll continue in the market nor wish otherwise. Of course people troll, and banter. Its always feast or famine or polarizing predictions across the board here from all sides.

Despite that, the notion nothing will ever be enough doesn't detract from the fact ms are punching well below their 'infinite cash' weight. It's not even just externals complaining either so what can you tell those Xbox owners pissed on varying levels why ms aren't competing at a comparable ilk to 'broke' Sony ?

The reasoning, often used of the 1 additional gen Sony had isn't good enough. Ms have had time and resources to build but their laziness and or arrogance stunted their progress on top of their mismanagement of some of the studios they had.

gangsta_red3374d ago

@ Why O

"Xbox owners pissed on varying levels why they aren't competing in at a comparable ilk to 'broke' Sony"

Let's be honest, even with MS supposed infinite amounts of cash it still takes time to make games. Reading these comments and attitudes you would come to the conclusion that MS has absolutely ZERO games coming for their system.

And since you can't edit comments anymore I have to comment on this part that you said...

"Ms need to amend their ways and stop relying on 3rd parties or hype."

Exactly why is this? It's absolutely because of 3rd parties, especially from Japan, that Sony has more games than Xbox. I mean the games released so far and coming in the next months for PS4 are from 3rd parties and are hyped. So why is it MS shouldn't do the same with 3rd parties?

This is where the double standards seems to always come into play. People complain they want more games, but then scoff when they come from 3rd or 2nd party studios. But then are more than willing to get them, celebrate and play them when they come to PS4.

"Ms have had time and resources to build but their laziness and or arrogance stunted their progress"

And Sony has had more time and almost two whole gens (PS1/2) left uncontested and on top to build not only relationships but an absolute dominance in the game space. That has carried over to what we are seeing now. At least MS is trying to right mistakes made in a field of some pretty high level competition that Sony rarely (if ever) had to see.

XanderZane3374d ago

@denawayne
Insecure fear, perhaps.

Why o why3374d ago (Edited 3374d ago )

@G red
Ms have had enough time. The narrative was games and developers from Asia were being overtaken by their European and American counterparts and were less relevant. Microsoft have had over 15 years in the game. How much time should they be afforded to grow efficient teams and practices. Sony doesn't just rely on 3rd/2nd party titles or developers. They grow their own as well as partnering with 2nd and 3rd parties

My comment about relying on 3rd parties you addressed was in relation to their 100 to 10 drop off last gen. How many games did they release in the last 3 years? I'm not a stickler for who makes the exclusives, just that they have them but when you rely on others and for whatever reason it doesn't pan out you should be able to fall back on internal projects. The management of internal studios and relationships with some externals isn't exempt from scrutiny.

I'm personally not implying ms make zero games . . . That's a tad disingenuous as many bemoan ms's 'go to' trifecta of gears halo Forza all of which are popular games. Let's not forget that there was a time where the term 'no games' was labelled at a certain brand despite that obviously being impossible. Some want more games plus something different on top. That's not being mean or nit picky, just highlighting the thoughts some Xbox owners are now expressing.. check out candystops comments of late. What could you tell him when he is more inline with the groundswell? You could never accuse him ponyisms but there are parallels between what he and 'haters' say unfortunately.

Did you notice I didn't use the V word. . . . .😜 c'mon. . .

Stogz3374d ago

@gangsta_red ya know what's so funny about you xbox fanboys is how quickly you forget facts. How many times did we get articles about Sony's impending doom and bankruptcy? How many times have you and your fellow fanboys said Sony was doomed? Let's stop acting like the victim here and stop pretending this has always been one sided. Both sides have been thru it, but I'm guessing your response will be moving the goalposts like you fanboys always do...

DeadlyOreo3373d ago

Septic must have a rather boring life to have to bookmark a couple of comments. Oh that's right, it's because he has no games to play on his Xbox One.

I guess we had better prepare for a lot more comment bookmarking from old Septic throughout the year then.

Gazondaily3373d ago

@DeadlyOreo

"Oh that's right, it's because he has no games to play on his Xbox One. "

But I have games on my PS4! Why you here in a Xbox thread when you have so many games to play?😁 Come let's play rocket league! 😂😂😂

gangsta_red3373d ago

@why

"Sony doesn't just rely on 3rd/2nd party titles or developers. They grow their own as well as partnering with 2nd and 3rd parties"

And MS doesn't do the same? There has been missteps from MS that are certainly well documented but again this site and many of its users like to shine a huge light on MS's missteps while sweeping Sony's under the rug.

Has MS cancelled games? Yes, as well as other developers and publishers. Has MS closed studios? Yes, as well as other developers and publishers. Has MS delayed games, paid for exclusives, paid for timed DLC? Yes, as well as, etc etc.

Point is, there seems to be this absolute meltdown when MS does these things.

"Asia were being overtaken by their European and American counterparts and were less relevant"

And in actuality they have been over taken. But that doesn't mean they are completely irrelevant. MS doesnt have the Japanese support, it's unfortunate but that is the way it is. MS is making due in other areas.

"How many games did they release in the last 3 years? "

There was also a drop in Sony's offerings from their first party studios. They even said themselves that their offerings would be sparse. Again, there is a double standard that MS has to put out double the amount of games that 3rd parties and Sony own studios release for PS4. Some on this site are setting some extremely high standards or bar and applying it to MS only.

The comedy of this is that those setting this bar are not and have never been interested in the Xbox in the first place.

"Some want more games plus something different on top."

I want the same and I think MS has been pretty good at offering their main titles like Gears and Forza and also something different like QB, Ori, KI and other stuff.

My point, main point for the last few days it seems (at least) is no matter what MS does on this site, it will never be good enough as the complaints and goals shift for only MS.

@Stogz

"know what's so funny about you xbox fanboys is how quickly you forget facts."

Naw, didnt forget a thing because i am constantly reminded by folks like you how super awful you had it way back when back in 2006. Damn near a decade ago.

I guess it's suppose to justify you and others continuing the tradition. Which is sad because it means you had 10 years to get over it and grow up.

"How many times have you and your fellow fanboys said Sony was doomed?"

I said Sony was doomed? Please show me where I said Sony was doomed, that they would leave the console business or anything as mentally challenged related.

"How many times did we get articles about Sony's impending doom and bankruptcy"

And am I suppose to be blamed for those articles being submitted to N4G?

"will be moving the goalposts like you fanboys always do..."

Moving goal posts? Stogz I have read more tha. Enough comments from you to know that you have nothing of importance to add to any conversation or discussion. All you do is stalk down supposed "fanboys" who like or prefer Xbox and then accuse them of some low tier bullshit. Why should I move the goal posts when the things you and others regurly accuse xbox fans of doing, Sony fans will do a week later.

Why o why3373d ago

Yeah, like I said g red. Feast or famine. There's no middle ground when dealing with the opposition from any side.

Calling Sony's offerings sparse is a little misleading. Its first party plus 2nd and 3rd. Grouping the two is only telling half of the story.

gangsta_red3373d ago

@Why

Feast or famine? Only proves the extremes some here like to take their perception of things.

"Calling Sony's offerings sparse is a little misleading"

No more misleading than the narrative and mind set of most of these views and comments found right here about Xbox and MS.

Stogz3373d ago (Edited 3373d ago )

@gangsta_red there's a reason why you're known to be one of the biggest fanboys on this site. For that recognition you have no one to blame but yourself. You say I add nothing to these conversations but what have you ever added as well? You talk down to Sony fanboys constantly and white knight for MS. No one here ever cares about your opinion because we all know how you are. I'm sorry if the truth hurts, but just look at the replies you literally always get here, you'd think after all this time you'd learn, guess not...
Also, this is my favorite bit of nonsense from your post:
"How many times did we get articles about Sony's impending doom and bankruptcy"

And am I suppose to be blamed for those articles being submitted to N4G?

I'll bookmark this for the next time I see you whining about stories that are posted here that are anti xbox...

Major_Glitch3373d ago

LOL. Septic talking about bookmarking others? That's rich. Hey Septic, Titanfall sell 10 million copies yet? How did MS "best holiday" work out again? Has that "cloud powerz" gimmick finally made your Xbone stronger than a PS4? Did Kinect become the revolution in gaming you said it was? Poor delusional Xbox fanboys. They can't even define the word "exclusives" properly.

Gazondaily3373d ago

Yo Major Glitch. What happened to the SDF hate for titanfall? You guys are sucking off the new game now. Where's the usual culprit concern trolling about all things Titanfall now?

10 million copies sold? Well now it's on PS it's sequel sold less lmao. 😂😂😂

Christopher3372d ago

I hope you bookmark them right next to those people who said Sony would be closing down last gen.

Crazy how crazy exists on every position, no?

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ShowanW3374d ago

@GtR35olution @Kingthrash360

xbox has already started it's evolution into a platform/service...
why be constrained to the confines of a single box.

sorry but PC's and computing overall is changing rapidly and game consoles have no choice but to evolve...
if consoles chose to remain stuck in the old archaic ways, the industry console industry will either fold or become to expensive for mainstream...

Even Sony recognizes this... you think Andrew House made his statements about PC in jest?
have you not paid attention to the amount of services Sony has launched in such a short time frame?
Sony isn't dumb either... They are more subtle with it, so the customer isn't overwhelmed by it.

Also, notice how I used Sony in context (not in a negative fashion either)...

gangsta_red3374d ago

It truly is amazing that certain folks can't see this. That Sony has the same plans as any other media service on the market competing for users today. We can already see the many similarities with both MS and Sony on how they handle their networks and consoles.

"sorry but PC's and computing overall is changing rapidly and game consoles have no choice but to evolve"

We can already see this with mid gen upgrades, something that both MS and Sony are doing.

Sony has made huge steps over the years to eventually turn into a service also. All these companies know that the money isn't in hardware but services that charge monthly/yearly memberships and also provides multiple transactions within that membership period.

And you are right and I have also said this, Sony is much more subtle about this than the competition. Even though I believe members on this site like to only shine a huge spotlight on MS. But we have seen Sony also also put focus on other aspects on the Playstation that does not involve gaming, something that was frowned on when MS talked about for their Xbox. Sony has also incorporated a lot of other practices into their service that MS was vilified for not long ago.

MRMagoo1233374d ago

lol the old "Sony too" again 😂 you guys really need to trademark it fast before it gets taken

ShowanW3373d ago

@MrMagoo123...

i did not bring up Sony just as a "Me too" "monkey see, monkey do"

I brought them up as they are much smarter than their mostly not too bright fanbas on N4G. Who doesn't understand times are changing and either evolve wit it or die in yesteryear...

Imalwaysright3374d ago (Edited 3374d ago )

A comment like this getting 42 agrees when the Scorpio is coming later this year is like punching reality in the face.

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@ bluefox755

None of the big 3 makes the most of their money from hardware. Software is where the money is.

NatFanBoyRestricted3373d ago

The insecurity is real. Plastic box fan boys the first to comment on every article about a brand they have nothing to do with.

thexmanone3373d ago

You do know that they are coming out with a new console this year right.

Vandamme213373d ago

Halo 4 ODLC, Halo 5 ODLC and Halo 6 will save the Xbox.

UCForce3373d ago

I don't think so this time. MS really need a new Ip and new flag ship to save Xbox.

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skydragoonityx3374d ago

M$ was never really dedicated to the xbox

AngelicIceDiamond3374d ago

Yes..they have. Tf are you talking about?

Kingthrash3603374d ago (Edited 3374d ago )

They never innovated on anything gaming. They only found new ways to reach in gamers pockets.
Xbl costs and itmakes them money so they invest and brag about their servers. They dont invest in making new experiances for gamers. Halo is still what they push, gears, forza. All have online play all have microtransations. All have has at least 2 games in 3 years on xbo. All in total have 5+ games each. The xbo is their worst console yet, not due to power but in content. They are not supporting it...in fact thay are hurting it! No matter what anyone says no exclusives for a console is just unheard-of. All they care about is EZ money. Remember the kinect was to be used to watch us and sell the data to advertising companies. That why it could read heart rates and stuff. Name a game that took advantage of this. They invested millions into the kinect just for that purpose...not gaming. Then they show off shot never ment for the xbox like the halo-lens that would have been cool but naw they wanted 2000 bucks and the games were just a demo. It's sold to large companies not gamers. They literally have done nothing this generation as far and making games and new experiances. Thas what he is talking about. Face it MS is a sleezy company that lacks the innovation to run a gaming console.
Everyone talks bad about nintendo, but I think they should be praised for leading gaming in innovative products and risk taking for the sake of gamers and gaming entertainment.

Cy3374d ago

It's cool to crap all over Microsoft in the comments on this site, even when that means saying dumb shit like that. Just ignore them.

GorillaTact3374d ago

Kingsthrash360

I can only assume you must be younger than 15yrs old, since Xbox Live is 15yrs old.

trooper_3374d ago (Edited 3374d ago )

If they were, then we would see more risks being made.

Gazondaily3374d ago (Edited 3374d ago )

@kingthrash
"They never innovated on anything gaming."

Nah they didn't school the console industry and show them how online gaming is done right? Or achievements? The PS4 is a direct result of the lessons Sony learnt from the 360.

"Face it MS is a sleezy company that lacks the innovation to run a gaming console. "

Ah yes this hyperbole from the serial MS commentator.

"They literally have done nothing this generation as far and making games and new experiances. "

You need to be careful with your use of the word 'literal'.

"Remember the kinect was to be used to watch us and sell the data to advertising companies."

#tinfoilhat

The comments are getting crazier by the day

AngelicIceDiamond3374d ago (Edited 3374d ago )

You can believe and roll in your own BS many tend to here live a complete lie in your own little made up fairy tale world. MS never innovated with Xbox or brought anything new gee I guess PSN/party chat, Avatar, media function on console, trophies, DLC, cloud services & BC & Forward Compatibility was pure genius and popularized by Sony first right since we're doing everything ass backwards here and clearly don't have our head on straight.

People literally get dumber and dumber by the day here

"The xbo is their worst console yet, not due to power but in content."

So its not power anymore right? almost 4 years later it has nothing to do with power. Well damn you're a little late to the party only the most logical and sensible gamers called that when the consoles got revealed omg we must be gaming prophets, we're so wise and clairvoyant! But fanboy eyes, fanboy brain, fanboy comments. In other words the dumbest type of gamers known in the gaming industry fanboys "thought" they knew better but they don't know anything nice flip flop looking forward to the next one.
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Gazondaily3374d ago

@Nasebot

"What did they school the console industry about? "

The whole online gaming setup! Matchmaking. Party chat! Their competitors couldn't even do party chat lol.

It's because of the 360 PS4 is easy to develop, has a mic (albeit a shit one) with the console and has party chat.

The online was so far behind on PS3 that it forced the birth of PS Plus. So PlayStation gamers should thank Xbox for the service 😊

Don't take these things for granted breh

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gangsta_red3374d ago

@TitaniumRx

"we should thank the dumbarse xbots who bent over to their overlords at M$ and got suckered into paying for online gaming."

I guess Sony saw how easy it was to get some ass and followed it up with their own fanbase.

@Kingthrash360

"They never innovated on anything gaming."

How can you say this and then in other past comments claim to be a fan of Xbox and want them to succeed?

"No matter what anyone says no exclusives for a console is just unheard-of."

Here's what I don't understand, isn't the Win 10 a MS platform on PC. Can you only get their first party games through the Win 10 store that only MS provides? Shouldn't that be considered their own service? So how in the heck does that translate to no exclusives when the Win 10 platform is nothing more than an extension of the Xbox?

And further more why would that even matter or why should that get you even a little upset? Are the games not as enjoyable anymore because someone is playing it on PC?

"xbox like the halo-lens that would have been cool but naw they wanted 2000 bucks"

Are we seriously now complaining about Hololens? New tech that is not tethered and was always being pushed for businesses and not necessarily for the Xbox but compatible. You mean this new tech costs a lot of money, the nerve of MS. I wonder how much Google Glass cost when it first came out?

"Remember the kinect was to be used to watch us and sell the data to advertising companies."

Except it never was and never did. But boy did the Sony fanbase conglomerate try and make it seem like MS was going to sell their info to the highest bidder. You know something EVERY other social media site does as well.

"They invested millions into the kinect just for that purpose...not gaming."

Except that the Kinect HAD games for it. Maybe not very good games, but game regardless. But I suppose you have a problem with MS supporting a peripheral with a wide VARIETY of content. I guess MS should be now faulted for trying to push Kinect for something more as well as gaming.

"They literally have done nothing this generation as far and making games and new experiances."

And what brand new experiences have Sony graced us with? VR? The cheapest VR headset on the market besides mobile with hardly any worth while games for it?

"Face it MS is a sleezy company that lacks the innovation to run a gaming console."

Lmao...no seriously...LMAO.

"Everyone talks bad about nintendo,..."

Actually only a very few talks bad about Nintendo's contributions to gaming. The majority on this site recognizes innovations, contributions and games from each company that includes Nintendo, Sony and Micorsoft.

It just seems there is a "certain" fanbase that likes to make up fairy tales and awesome science fiction when talking about Microsoft.

Eonjay3374d ago

Xbox was originally 2 things, one a way to get Windows into the living room and two a gruge against Sony for not making PS2 a windows machine. Which are both fine reasons for Xbox to exist. Xbox is literally a product of Sony's decision making and it will always be a byproduct of PlayStation.

Gazondaily3374d ago

@Eonjay

"Xbox is literally a product of Sony's decision making and it will always be a byproduct of PlayStation."

What's funny is, PlayStation is literally a product of Nintendo's decision making and it will always be that.

Crazy swings and falafels

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goatking3374d ago

Ever played an online game, xbox says your welcome.

Lon3wolf3374d ago

My first online gaming via console was on the Dreamcast (Quake 3 ruined my life), unless I am misreading what you mean?

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BlackTar1873374d ago (Edited 3374d ago )

My forst online games were Starcraft, Warcraft and Counterstrike followed up by Socom.

Not sure what you're implying but you have no idea what you're saying. IMO party chat ruined online game lobbies anyways credit them for that if you want.

goatking3374d ago

The essentially made what we think of online gaming. Sure dreamcast had online, but see how that did. Sony has never really made anything first, does that mean that they never innovated? Microsoft was the first to do modern online, matchmaking, achievements, party chat, cloud servers, dedicated servers, making online gaming something gamers actually use.

Liqu1d3373d ago

You guys get dumber everyday.

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andrewsquall3374d ago

No you are thinking of Kinect 2.0.

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Mrveryodd3374d ago

Then why build it... What you say makes no sence

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alfcrippinjr3373d ago

you are so correct on this one shame others do not see it also
all they wanted to do is input there media box in every home
which we would use everyday that it
they do not care about gaming at all if they did then we would had seen a lot of good games out for it

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Herbalistic3374d ago

Its all about Windows / pushing Xbox more into service with Microsoft.They even report on the brand likes its a service with mostly downloads/users/headshots and other stats.

LexHazard793374d ago (Edited 3374d ago )

Xbox devices are Microsofts "steambox".
And last I checked Xbox Live is already a service on Xbox 360, Xbox One, and Windows platform. Thanks for reading my comment.

goatking3374d ago

I mean, ps4 is sony's steambox. The steambox was pretty much valve making a console.

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Automatic793374d ago

Hold up producing more first party titles is a bad thing. Since when. Smh at some of these opinion pieces.

trooper_3373d ago

No one claimed it was a bad thing. There just needs to be less talking and more showing.

PhoenixUp3374d ago

"Microsoft can’t save the Xbox from the onslaught of Nintendo and Sony exclusives that are about to flood the marketplace. We’re already seeing it from Sony’s end. Nioh, Resident Evil 7 VR, Gravity Rush 2, and Yakuza 0"

While I agree that Microsoft's first party isn't as strong as its competitors, Nintendo's exclusives didn't help GameCube outsell Xbox in the end. I also have issue with you calling RE7 VR an exclusive game when it's just a mode in an preexisting multiplatform game.

"Halo Wars 2 is a bit of a niche title."

The original Halo Wars sold 2.63 million copies. I wouldn't call that niche. It's also hypocritical of you to list Yakuza 0, a niche title, but then later chastise another title that you downplay because you perceive it to be niche.

"As for Crackdown 3, its development process has been littered with red flags."

Man the only reason people are even interested in that game is the supposed "powah uv teh clowd." You never saw previous installments in this franchise garner so much attention outside of being games that were bundled in with Halo 3 and Halo Reach betas.

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yeahright23374d ago

I agree on Yakuza being niche. But while over 2 million is not niche for a regular game, it seems small for a halo title.
I also agree on RE7. Article does seem biased. and I admit, I've been hard on MS lately, but that's just me being salty over some of the recent decisions made. Being just a casual fan of xbox, I felt like all the reasons I bought my xbox for got taken away with sunset overdrive being the only reason I was still hanging on to it.
I wanted scalebound, canceled
I was excited for quantum break, let down
I wanted cloud computing, still waiting (only ever seen it in a highly controller environment)
I wanted a new fable, canceled
I got excited for phantom dust, got booted down to a remaster
And even looking forward to game MS might bring, that point is moot to me as I own a gaming PC, so I just play them there.
Like I said, I'm salty, I can admit that, but I bought an xbox on the promise of announced titles and the expectation of more coming. only to have the majority of those titles canceled or not live up to expectations. Then even if I were to have faith that MS would bring out new games just as good if not better than those titles, they make the move of making my xbox redundant due to having a PC.
Sorry for the rant, and I know the majority of what I said has got nothing to do with your comment, it's just I don't want Sony, or any console manufacturer to be at the top of the hill uncontested and Xbox, if we're being real here, is the only real threat to Sony right now. And all signs I see point to them not effectively filling that role.

Automatic793374d ago

@yeahright2

Seems like you are hard to please are you this critical with other platforms.

yeahright23374d ago

Not hard to please, just expect them to deliver on the games they show us. I don't care about halo gears and forza. But I did care about quantum break, scalebound and sunset overdrive. Sony didn't cancel all but one of their exclusives that I was looking forward to. Nintendo didn't put all their exclusives on PC.
Now I can be hard on Nintendo as well, hence why I won't buy a switch. Sony has the least negatives for me this gen, but as I said, I don't want them unopposed. I remember the PS3 launch days. not a Sony I want them to go back to.

goatking3374d ago

Yea, because wii u having exclusives helped it so much.

BlackTar1873374d ago

lol it was the only reason i bought the console.

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-Foxtrot7d ago

Look I know VIII has its issues and all that but how on earth can the do big anniversary events with new artwork and merchandise for VII, IX and X yet VIII got sweet f*** all.

They could have given it something during its 25th anniversary yet all it got was a single Happy Anniversary post on their social media.

solideagle7d ago

they should know that we are OG fans of VIII as it sold truckload as well. not as much as VII or X. I personally didn't like IX but X and VI are my personal fav.

Shadow Hearts 2 covenant is another game I love. I hope one day someone can make remake, I would be delighted

Relientk777d ago

Final Fantasy VIII is great and you are always the first to defend it in the comments

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Relientk7712d ago

I remember playing this back in the day on PS2. What a sick game!

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Outside_ofthe_Box13d ago (Edited 13d ago )

If they go back to exclusive games it at least shows that they are finally getting it. They would be turning down immediate money for something that will potentially workout in the long term.

Only issue is they've already opened Pandora's box. A lot of their base has moved to PC or jumped to PS. So will be a long road to get back on track.

We have been saying this from day one exclusives are a must if you are going to be selling hardware look at Nintendo and Sony before Jim Ryan. That's the proven formula. You had some that were deluded and blinded by loyalty accepting that multiplat was the future and that MS was merely getting ahead of where the industry was headed, but at least they can finally see the light and agree with what everyone has been saying for a decade+

pwnmaster300013d ago

True, blame it on the rabid fanboys. MS can do no wrong and spinner this multiplatform move. While the actual fans moved on.

I feel like with the new Xbox coming they are hoping to bring back those old fans and then if it goes well. Bring back exclusives.

If the new console is performing like series x and one. Naw they staying multiplatform.

darthv7212d ago

Actual fans dont move on... they can add to their hobby while waiting for the next new release. If you believe what you typed then I guess PS fans moved on too.... you know, since its been a Sahara for 1st party games this gen.

S2Killinit12d ago

The fans didn’t tell them to go multilat. MS was forced to after the 82 billion they spent to destroy gaming. Then, while xbox fans cheered, MS realized they can’t justify the price tag by selling through xbox only, so they went multiplat and in the process began to downplay console gaming.

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CrashMania13d ago

I think it's too late, xbox sales were diving even before ABK, they got even worse since then even long before the full multiplatform push. I'd be surprised if they even went back to timed exclusivity at this point, Helix is basically a PC and is going to be expensive, they already struggle to sell cheaper xbox consoles, it will be low volume and they'll have a very small 'console' base to sell to, which has already been conditioned to just play via gamepass anyway.

S2Killinit12d ago

They will do what they always do, they will promise the world at the beginning of next GEN and then failed to deliver all generation long. But there will always be some gamers who will buy into their promises.

ocelot0712d ago

Absolutely agree, Do people genuinely believe Microsoft are now going to go. Hang on how's about we go back to 2020. Then GP was stagnating, Games sold where awful because of GP. Outsold by Playstation by a landslide.

They have sold 5m of Forza I believe on PS5. Spite it being a old game. I think Starfield is going to sell well in the end. Halo is deffinetly going to sell well as is Fable and Forza Horizon 6.

I think at best (for Xbox fans). Single player titles like Clockwork will have a timed exclusivity. Multiplayer centric games like Forza, E Day will release day and date on all platforms.

Or all games will release on all platforms day and date. But maybe Xbox and Windows Store copies will have exclusive bonuses. Or may even get timed exclusive dlc like Fallout and Elder Scrolls and COD use to do.

I think they will treat Xbox players like the premium customers or at least act the way. But will serve just the Playstation and Switch 2 customers as well.

Neonridr12d ago

I don't see them removing PC from the equation. Considering MS has a heavy enough investment in the PC market, it would be foolish to abandon them. I could see them taking away games from PlayStation or ensuring they are timed exclusives at the very least. Say what you will but if Call of Duty ends up becoming a timed exclusive to Xbox machines, that would hurt PlayStation, don't pretend like those games don't sell millions.

Outside_ofthe_Box12d ago

They would lose out on a lot of CoD sales tho. Doesn't PS make up most of the sales?

Neonridr12d ago

@Outside - possibly, but it might push people to want Xbox hardware so they can play with their buddies day one.

Who knows.

S2Killinit12d ago (Edited 12d ago )

it would but remember doing that can splinter the COD fan base and in the process damage the call of duty brand which is probably the only franchise in that $82 billion purchase that in anyway gets even close to delivering what Microsoft thought they bought. If Microsoft fudges around too much with the COD franchise, you might even see a competitor franchise show up on the scene and that would be a catastrophe after the huge debt that Microsoft put itself into with the ABK purchase.

But Its almost guaranteed that Microsoft will want to do something drastic at the beginning of the next generation as they always do. We will see.

Pyrofire9512d ago

Their lifeline of solely the Xbox consoles is dry. Good-Great games on a 1st party scale can't be made at a loss so willingly - sent to the Xbox to only sell limited copies.
They invested billions scooping up studios and need to start making returns.
Sucks that nearly every company is publicly traded and have to be so shareholder biased but that's how it is.
Their words are strong but it'll take time to see what their actions accomplish. Lowering the cost of Game Pass and taking CoD off of it was a good clear start.

darthv7212d ago

More like, allot of their base just played game pass. So now they need to encourage them to start buying again.

S2Killinit12d ago (Edited 12d ago )

A lot of their base left for greener (bluer?) pastures.

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What exactly is the long term goal with exclusives though?

Because for the most part, the hardware side of things has never been the most profitable, even sometimes being subsidized for a period before breaking even. And that’s before the hardware component nightmare we currently live in.

The whole point of exclusives was to get more people to buy your console in order to have a bigger install base, which meant even bigger software sales.

But if their ports to PS5 are selling (for the most part it seems) quite well, then other than negating the cut Sony takes there, unless you are REALLY increasing your software sales on your own console, it probably doesn’t make that much of a difference?

Honestly I don’t even understand Sony’s decision to scale back on it for PC unless they weren’t even recouping the port expenses. They released ports when the hardware sales never really dropped, and now that all consoles will undoubtedly take a noticeable drop in sales due to the ridiculous prices, that’s when they decide they don’t want to sell to a larger install base to more easily recoup dev costs… it’s just weird

Outside_ofthe_Box12d ago (Edited 12d ago )

I agree. I mean once they went multiplat, in theory there should be no going back especially when you have games that have sold really well on other platforms.

Microsoft are the ones that announced that they are reevaluating. So I'm just guessing on what their end goal is. Right now Xbox as a hardware is not a must buy for anyone but fans of the brand because their games can be played elsewhere. Going exclusive would solve this, but you lose out on a ton of money instantly which has always been what the company does not want to do so not really sure what their "reevaluating exclusives" means unless they are pulling a Phil Spencer and are just saying what people want to hear and will continue to do what they are currently doing.

darthv7212d ago

Their ports to PS5 are selling because Sony's output has been so dry... the fans are thirsty, and MS is the oasis.

SIdepocket12d ago

Unfortunately, the studios they buy wither under their leadership.

mcstorm12d ago

Microsoft still has a name with Xbox the issue is the casual games are not looking at the console because its not the same console their friends have. Look at that poll on how many users upgraded from xbox 365 to one and then the X. Part of Microsoft's downfall was thinking that the Wii was the market they had to be in when really it was the core market. If you get the core gamers you then get the market to. As I posted a few minuets ago on another post Microsoft putting exclusives on PS this gen could bold well if they hit next gen with all our games are staying exclusive from this new gen. They will then get gamers wanting Halo, Forza Gears but this is also where Microsoft fell over with the xbox one and X in terms of they did not have may quality 1st party games affter they fell into the Gears, Forza and Halo cycle. If they can get some old IPs back to bring back the old core gamers as well as fresh ips to bring in new gamers things could improve next gen. But as I said in my last post its all if buts and maybes at the moment. No one knows if the next home consoles will be to expensive that people move to pc as we are now seeing or look at the stem deck as a cheepier alternitive.

DarXyde12d ago

"Only issue is they've already opened Pandora's box."

That's very optimistic. It's not the only issue, far from it. There is a serious rupture between Microsoft generally and the public caused by their weird Game Pass price fluctuations, taking down physical game space in stores, and being the first to go nuts on hardware price hikes that they themselves played a big part in.

They're also charging beyond a premium for Helix which is just vile at a time when the economy is in shambles.

The company itself is really not doing itself any favors with the approach they're taking Windows. Even France is looking to ditch Windows in favor of Linux.

But the most offensive thing is this AI push. They're doubling, tripling, and quadrupling down on the very technology they're using to replace a considerable proportion of their workforce... And the slap in the face is how they bake copilot into everything when nobody likes it—they couldn't even make Bing stick, so why on earth are they trying so hard? You know it's bad when people would rather use ChatGPT than Copilot which is killing their OS. But aside from their snatching up of farmland to build data centers (and reduce the agriculture capacity of whichever country allows them to build them), they made an AI-generated gamer gurl that loves AI the head of Xbox.

Even if we grant them the full benefit of the doubt, it hardly matters what Xbox wants to do if Nadella says no, and that includes exclusive games. Microsoft's relationship with Xbox is the opposite of Sony's relationship with PlayStation—Microsoft pulls the reins of Xbox, but Sony damn near went under for the PS3.

Tanktopmaster9212d ago (Edited 12d ago )

“If they go back to exclusive games it at least shows that they are finally getting it.”

Great strategy, especially after Forza selling 5 million on PlayStation and sea of thieves selling at least another million (2 million) for example. In March 2026, Xbox consoles sales ratio vs PS was 10:1.

In addition to that, with Gamepass, which unequivocally cuts out chunks of sales (Cannibalizing revenue from 1st month sales especially).

I’m sure going exclusive again after releasing everything on Ps5 is going to work out great for business.

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maximusprime_13d ago

Despite all of that, it's clear that Microsoft's Xbox division is broken beyond repair.

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BeHunted12d ago

PlayStation is currently draining money on flop after flop. It's Sony that needs to re-evaluate their strategy

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CrashMania12d ago (Edited 12d ago )

Wonder how much money was lost on perfect dark, hellbalde 2, 300 million lost revenue
by putting cod on gamepass. The recent Jason schrier news that Xbox has cancelled dozens of projects, spent 70 billion just to see Xbox sales further collapse and gamepass see little growth.

The fact is this has been PlayStation's most profitable generation and they are making loads of money and selling plenty of consoles and games. While MS won't give you any sales figures or profit numbers for Xbox, says it all really.

S2Killinit12d ago

Sony PlayStation has deservedly dominated xbox. Facts

Tanktopmaster9212d ago (Edited 12d ago )

Ok tween.

Xbox series SX got outsold 10:1 last month. lol.

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shadowT13d ago

"Our presence on PC isn’t strong enough."

Fishy Fingers13d ago

It isnt. But I dont think they mean in 'games', rather, footprint.

They own the OS but as far as gaming is concerned, Steam dominate. I imagine the VAST majority of people who use the Xbox app/launcher are PC gamepass subs. No ones buying their 3rd party PC games through Xbox PC.

badz14912d ago

and many gamers prefer SteamOS for gaming over Windows too. If only Valve would be more uncompromising to the anti-cheat makers that locked out non-windows players, more pc gamers would have moved onto SteamOS by now and not looking back to Windows. overall, Win11 is a terrible, bloated, unoptimized OS which is not what many people want

ocelot0712d ago

Agreed and I think that's where they are going to focus on more. I think cheaper games on Windows/Xbox store (MS IP) compared to Steam and Epic and maybe even compared to PSN store as well.

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