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Nintendo: using Nvidia on the Switch was “top priority”

The company cites Nvidia's "key role in realizing PC gaming graphics".

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masterfox3368d ago

So many damn Nividia GPUs outthere and Nintendo went for a mobile one ?, seriously Nintendo couldn't you at least try to implement a proper GPU ? how about put one in that docking thing ?, oh yeah I forgot you give a damn about innovation & gamers, and care only about greed.

Neonridr3368d ago

let's wait until we see the entire roadmap. what you described could end up being the Supplemental Computing Device that Nintendo filed patents for last year. Could be a way to increase the docked performance even more down the road.

Surprised it took this long for a console to go back to Nvidia considering their success in the GPU world. They couldn't exactly fit a 1060 or something like that in the Switch unit, so a Tegra was right in line with their vision.

stuna13368d ago

Do you really believe seeing the entire roadmap will change the eventual realization that Switch will turn out just like a large group of gamers already know it will turn out!? Another half-step made by Nintendo to try to recapture the glory days of the WII!

My take is, it'll start out fun, but that fun will wear thin real quick just like the WII..

Neonridr3368d ago

@stuna1 - the console's main function, the whole idea behind this thing is the fact that you can take it with you or play it on your TV. That's the whole reason for the name of the console. Sure there are *some* titles that utilize motion controls. But don't kid yourself. Casuals don't buy 3DS's or Vita's, at least not the same casuals that bought the Wii. This thing is still a gaming machine first. Sure it's not as powerful as the others, but the N64 was the last time Nintendo wanted to have the most powerful hardware out there.

ABizzel13368d ago

The companies left NVIDIA, because NVIDIA cost more than AMD in the desktop range with often minor power differences (and I would assume this was big in bargaining between Sony & MS).

In the case of a console where every dollar matters towards your end profit, it didn't and doesn't make sense to go with NVIDIA for a 10% - 20% boost in performance (which translates to a few fps), at the cost of $50 or more added to your console. Especially if that means your competitor is going to be $50 less, or making a profit that can be put towards software, while you're barely breaking even.

It just doesn't make sense for a budget friendly gaming device (which is what a console i supposed to be).

NVIDIA priced themselves out of that market, since they know they own the PC GPU market, but the tables turned on them this gen.

Maybay3368d ago

If you want the "best of the best," PC is where you should be. In a couple of years, people will be playing AAA games on their smart phones with Bluetooth controllers.

fenome3368d ago

You can count me out on playing AAA on my smart phone, that's what I bought my big ass TV for.

Omnislashver363368d ago

Yeah but Nintendo games don't come out on PC. All the more reason to why they should have made a competent console. Something at around 1TFLOPS would have been $250 and really make their games shine with their art style. I think even PC gamers would be jealous of how beautiful Nintendo games could be with that kind of power.

yeahokwhatever3368d ago

oh because mobile tech will keep improving and desktop tech wont? you make no sense.

Maybay3368d ago

@fenome

Obviously the Smart Phones will connect to the TV... 😂

bluefox7553368d ago

No they won't. People (generally speaking) don't want to play AAA games on mobile. They want games that are accessible and can be played in short bursts. Home console is where the demand for AAA is. I can't believe Nintendo doesn't see this.

conanlifts3368d ago (Edited 3368d ago )

@ omnislash....switch is around 1tflop. At a minimum it is 0.875 tflop but possibly more with customisations.

Digital foundry reported switch is slightly more powerful than the wii u while undocked. Wii u is 350gflops. They also reported docked it is 2.5x this power...2.5x 350 is .875gflops plus 2.5x slightly more ( whatever slightly more is).

So a minimum .875 + a bit more.

Omnislashver363368d ago

There are no reports of it being 2.5x Wii U's power when docked, the only reports are that it's 40% of the power when undocked. Seriously wait for the specs, you're going to be disappointed.

conanlifts3368d ago (Edited 3368d ago )

@ omnislash "There are no reports of it being 2.5x Wii U's power when docked"

"Quote from digital foundry "

"As things stand, a docked Switch features a GPU with 2.5x the power of the same unit running from battery. "

"Even a 307.2MHz GPU based on Maxwell technology should be capable of out-performing Wii U"

"307.2MHz - meaning that in portable mode, Switch runs at exactly 40 per cent of the clock-speed of the fully docked device."

https://www.google.com.au/a...

We know undocked switch is at least equal to the wii u. Just look at mk8, zelda etc. It runs these ports equal to or better than the wii u while undocked. Then docked it is 2.5x the power.....so it is at least 2.5x the power of a wii u.
Plus 1080p (mk8) requires at least 2x the power to increase from 720p to 1080p.

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yeahokwhatever3368d ago

A proper GPU would use more power than the entire Switch console. Should tell you right there what to expect performance-wise. If Nvidia had magic, it would already be in their desktop GPUs.

badz1493368d ago

Yeah, because there are no "m" variants for those GPUs that uses less power than their PC counterparts /s

yeahokwhatever3368d ago

Are you telling me, with a straight face, right now, if I have a mobile 1070 and run it against a desktop 1070 they will be equal? Tell me, why does Nvida need desktop versions if the mobile ones are smaller, cheaper, and run cooler?

badz1493367d ago

you just want those with less power, right? at least those are better than Tegra

IanTH3367d ago

@badz149 Yea, but even the "mobile" variants of nVidia draw significantly more power than a Tegra. Orders of magnitude more. A GTX 1050 mobile might be able to draw somewhere in the neighborhood of 40 watts (possibly more like 50) and Tegra - a chip which is an entire System on a Chip - draws in the neighborhood of 10 watts total. Obviously Nintendo is completely locked out of power like that if they want to remain mobile in a tablet sized device, only reaching laptop class parts if they want laptop sized form-factors and battery packs.

Not suggesting it was the right choice, just saying that even the lowest powered "m" class card would draw far too much for Switch to operate in handheld mode.

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ZeroX98763368d ago

@masterfox

well to create a handheld, they had to put a mobile GPU in it. oh wait, it's a HOME CONSOLE as per Nintendo......

WeedyOne3368d ago

A mobile GPU for a mobile console.... who would have thunk it??? LOL

I guess you want them to fit a GTX1080 in the tablet eh? A GTX 1080 alone is bigger than the entire console...

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Software_Lover3368d ago

More like.........

Nvidia: Getting our chip on atleast one console was "top priority". We couldn't be completely left out.

yarbie10003368d ago

Nvidia has been doing just fine without consoles

MyDietEqualsGames3368d ago (Edited 3368d ago )

They could be doing better with them, but I am glad Amd got in there.

Cobra9513368d ago

They would be doing better with the consoles added to their portfolio. That AMD got the PS4 and the X1 has got to be a sore spot.

yeahokwhatever3368d ago

Thats why Nvidia didnt waste any effort in just selling Nintendo the Nvidia Shield.

Vhampir3368d ago

No.... more like...

Nvidia: We can't sell these damn shields, we need to dump these old processors!

2pacalypsenow3368d ago

Nvidia doesnt have a great track record with consoles, they screwed the Xbox and the Ps3 I hope it doesnt happen to nintendo.

GrontB3368d ago

I'm not saying your wrong, but how did it screw the ps3? I can't see how Nvidia harmed (screwed) it.

Kaneki-Ken3368d ago

I don't know about last generation but I know during the making of PS4, PlayStation try to work a deal with Nvidia but NV wanted more money and PlayStation jump ship to AMD who offer a great deal. I also hear the same story with the Xbone.

2pacalypsenow3368d ago (Edited 3368d ago )

Yep, they blasted consoles on their "Margins" and said they are not profitable.

And I got confused with IBM on the Ps3 so Nvidia didnt screw Sony.

Cobra9513368d ago

Picture me confused as well. Sony screwed themselves with the convoluted Cell and its limited subprocessors. That was not (and can't believe ever would have been) an Nvidia project.

Blood_Spiller3368d ago (Edited 3368d ago )

The GPU that shipped with the PS3 was Nvidia and wasn't as advanced as the one found in the Xbox 360 (AMD). The Xbox 360 was the first device to have a Unified Shader architecture, even beating PCs to this if memory serves me right. That unified architecture helped the Xbox 360 pull out to an early lead graphically speaking.

yeahokwhatever3368d ago

@Blood_spiller
No. The early "graphics lead" was entirely based on the fact that third parties did not actually use the Cell initially. They limited themselves to the Power PC Core + GPU and as soon as the Cell was being utilized the tables turned. The Cell is a crazy beast for graphic/physics intensive workloads and the system was designed to be supplemented by it. People initially over hyped the 360's GPU, and under hyped the GPU in the PS3 simply because the masses found it easier to afford the 360. When people opt for the cheaper thing, they have a natural tendency to justify it.

SonyWarrior3368d ago (Edited 3368d ago )

nvidia didnt screw ps3.... the only reason sony went with amd for ps4 was because at the time amd was extremely desprite to get the deal they were on the brink of bankrupcy and basicly offered such a low deal that nvidia didnt want to counter offer it was too low for nividia to bother with and of course when offered something for 80% less then its compitition sony went with AMD. AMD just needed it to keep the lights on in there building they arent really making any thing off the deal profit wise

badz1493368d ago

I believe nVidia is not to be blamed for the PS3 issues. In fact, Sony initially didn't even want to put a dedicated GPU in the PS3 because they wanted to do it solely using the CELL BE just like how they used the EE in the PS2 but it was too drastic and they decided to couple the CELL with the RSX, a nVidia custom made, underclocked 7800GTX. It was not supposed to handle graphics alone but most 3rd parties did it anyway to unsatisfactory results because CELL is kinda alien to them at first.

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Segata3368d ago

They did not screw PS3. Sony decided to have no GPU and just two CELL processors. Last minute Sony changed their minds and asked Nvidia and with what little time they had whipped up something.

corroios3368d ago

At least it should have tegra x2...

mcstorm3368d ago

I think they want with the x1 because of cost more than anything else. Plus from what I have read it's not just an out of the box x1.

I think people need to stop going on about power ect and let the developers show off what the console can do.

Game on the Xbox one ps4 and wiiu looked amazing so no reason they can't on the switch. Add that the switch can be used as a portable to it adds something different to the other to.

For me I did not want a console the same as the ps4/Xbox one I wanted something different and really like the look of the switch. It may not get the big 3rd party games like GTA ect but I don't think Nintendo need that to sell their consoles.

Only time will tell if the switch is a hit or not with the public.

badz1493368d ago

"For me I did not want a console the same as the ps4/Xbox one I wanted something different..."

I think many wished the Switch to be as powerful as those 2. Imagine a Nintendo's console with the PS4's power and Nintendo's IPs. Wouldn't that be wonderful? And 3rd parties can release their games as usual like they do on those 2 too due to the parity in power. That particular console would dominate the market easy. That's how you set yourself different from the others, exclusives, not this going underpowered BS! And they have the guts to sell it at the same price as the most dominant console this gen too. What Nintendo is doing right now is not being different, but rather them being stupid or outright crazy!

mcstorm3368d ago

@badz that still would not of mattered. People pick anything to moan about. If it was more powerful they would of picked on the cost or not having a normal controller in the box, online cost ect. No matter what Sony, Microsoft or Nintendo do the fan boys/keyboard worriers will be out.

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Microsoft Gaming Revenue Drops 7% Year-on-Year, Content and Services Down 5%, Xbox Hardware Down 33%

Microsoft announced its financial results for Q3 of fiscal year 2026, including an update on its gaming Xbox business and more.

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Jin_Sakai10h ago(Edited 10h ago)

Not looking good. Hopefully Asha Sharma is able to turn Phil’s disaster around.

dveio4h ago

To me it's still quite remarkable how they can cash-in 5.3bn in revenue in a single quarter, since their hardware is basically dead.

Jingsing2h ago

The stock mark is what makes Microsoft remarkable, They have convinced every institutional and retail investor to just keep piling money into them. Like many big tech giants they are just a big growing pyramid scheme. As long as people keep dropping money into ETF's that cover the market Microsoft will always be liquid. At the same time it is completely stifling innovation and competition. People need to start being more discreet in how they invest their money as it's killing the system.

Tanktopmaster923h ago

Once they re-evaluate exclusive all will be fine….

S2Killinit3h ago

Riiiiight because people will just flock back to them for one or two games per year.

Jingsing2h ago

15+ years of bad performance is what they call irreparable in business. It is time for them to sell off the assets and get out of entertainment.

Tanktopmaster9247m ago

These declines are on the back of extra revenue received from releasing games like Forza horizon 5 on PlayStation. So I’m being sarcastic here when I said they should go back to exclusives. Killing off a revenue stream from Ps5 sales will only make things worse

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Steam Controller (2026) review

Second time's the charm.

cl19831d 3h ago (Edited 1d 3h ago )

Seams like a nice controller

Reaper22_14h ago

Two analog sticks acrossvftom each other is a no go.When will everyone learn.

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Forefront VR Review - Battlefield Comes to VR — and it Actually Works | Terminal Gamer

TG writes: If you’ve ever wanted that chaotic, large-scale modern warfare feeling from Battlefield but in full VR immersion, Forefront delivers it better than anything else currently available on Quest.

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