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Graphics Improvements on Xbox Scorpio Depend On how Developers Allocate Resources- Developer

gameseveryday|3429d ago |News|50|

Arguably the biggest selling point for the Xbox Scorpio so far is its monstrous GPU, which, at 6TFLOPs of computational power, makes the Scorpio the most powerful console ever made. However, just hard numbers aren't going to be enough her. According to Ikrima Elhassan of Kite & Lightning, the developers of the upcoming VR game Bebylon Battle Royale, how many graphical improvements the Scorpio truly exhibits will depend on just how developers allocate resources.

Developer Ikrima Elhassan Xbox One gamingbolt.com

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skydragoonityx3429d ago

All that power....

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Eonjay3427d ago

Anyone notice that we don't talk about games on Xbox anymore? Just power.

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Sciurus_vulgaris3429d ago

Obvious

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aconnellan3429d ago

Not news worthy - how long have we known this for now?

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Sciurus_vulgaris3429d ago

Well the article comes from a site that spent years writing about 1080p, 60 FPS, eSRAM, and graphics analysis. Without having any good apparent understanding of console technology, graphics or game development.

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denawayne3429d ago

It is news worthy. Just go to this link and see all the re**rds who should read this article

http://n4g.com/news/2011565...

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threefootwang3429d ago

In other news today, a fast Ferrari only goes fast if the driver accelerates hard enough - Driver

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ninsigma3429d ago

That got me. Brilliant 😂

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TheCommentator3429d ago

Apparently not. Otherwise there wouldn't be arguments about Scorpio being a true native 4k system.

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game4funz3429d ago

Well I'm pretty sure any machine nowadays can output tetris at 4k....by way of saying every machine is 4k capable. Even if it is down scaled to fit the screen.

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Neonridr3429d ago

wow.. isn't this exactly the same thing that goes for the PS4 Pro? Either opt for higher resolutions and sacrifice effects / framerate. Or go for lower resolutions, but crank up the extra details / effects..

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ApocalypseShadow3429d ago

It's the same. But truth is not something some gamers want to hear.

Some games are going to be 4K native at 30/60 fps, some are going to be 1080p, but high detail. Some will upscale their resolution, some VR games are going to look great and some are going to look cartoony.

Not much difference except the fact that Scorpio will do more detail and more 4K games potentially more often over PS4 Pro.

It's just coming late to the party. Like 18 months late.

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Neonridr3429d ago

yeah, don't get me wrong, I realize that Scorpio should have some more headroom available. But it's not like this isn't something that isn't commonplace in the design world for videogames. Devs build with what they have available to them. If they have more power to work with they can utilize it where they see fit.

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MattE3429d ago

We'll look at it this way, if the PS4 Pro is hitting 1800p checkerboarding then XB Scorpio will hit 4k.. it's pretty obvious not all Devs will use the power for resolution.. goes without saying

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freshslicepizza3429d ago (Edited 3429d ago )

@Apocalypse Shadow
"It's just coming late to the party. Like 18 months late."

maybe by then there will actually be some decent amount of software for vr and developers will have more experience with it. i do imagine more than just a few games will be making good use of the extra power of scorpio unlike the ps4 pro which had very few games ready,

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Aenea3429d ago (Edited 3429d ago )

12 months late, they are supposed to release a year after the Pro

Indeed not much difference, it's what I've been trying to tell people since it's announcement, a few more native 4k games, rest of the games with slightly more detail, rendering in a slightly higher resolution, checkerboard rendering in a higher resolution, etc., etc. But nothing really mindblowingly different.

And yes, 1.8Tf difference is a nice power difference for 1080p, but for outputting at 4k many forget that it needs 4 times more pixels to be pushed and that thus a relative power difference is what matters and that the visual differences will be as great as between X1 and PS4 now just flipped...

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Yes, if the Pro is hitting 1800p with checkerboard rendering (and then upscaling to 2160p), then the Scorpio might be able to hit 2160p with checkerboard/sparse rendering. Not native tho, I hope that is not what you meant!

FYI, 1800p checkerboard rendering means it's basically rendering half the pixels of 1800p, to get from that to native 2160p a device needs to render 2.88 times the number of pixels which means the machine needs to do 4.2 x 2.88 = 12.096Tflops to be capable of that.........

When it checkerboard renders at 2160p, it only needs half that which is indeed around 6Tf....

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jrshankill3428d ago

Its the same for every console in existence. Dumb article.

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stuna13429d ago (Edited 3429d ago )

Just another way of saying when games fall short in certain areas... Well it was left up to the developers on how they chose to use resources! This will also apply to Microsoft's own studio's.

Ok my bad, every game on Scorpio is going to run at 4K 60fps native to those who disagree! It's either one or the other. The second a game releases that is not able to accomplish that task, what is the likely response you will hear!?

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TankCrossing3429d ago

You are getting disagrees because the dev is clearly not saying "it can do everything, blame the devs!" as you claim.

Honestly, it is rare to meet someone with a head that even Gamingbolt headlines fly over.

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Automatic793429d ago

Microsoft first party developers are already using resources wisely hence reason for iniative started over a year ago called play anywhere. All First party games associated with play anywhere UWP are running on monstrous PC's. The forward plan of action is in place. Now third parties will do the same. I believe 2K, EA and all its developers, Ubisoft, etc will be ready upon Scorpio's launch to fully optimize games.

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Aenea3429d ago

All devs are using resources wisely, it's called optimising...

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sadsatan3429d ago

still a jaguar cpu though...

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XXanderXX3429d ago (Edited 3429d ago )

So the developer of a VR game is who we are listening to , worst part I bet that game is not even coming to Scorpio.
Still people are listening to her . Wow

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LastCenturyRob3429d ago (Edited 3429d ago )

Just fine with 1080p/60fps with insane graphics, lighting and effects!

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Darkwatchman3429d ago

With how much extra headroom the scorpio has over the ps4 pro, I'd prefer targeting 1440p as a minimum resolution with increased assets and effects. Because let me tell you, once you've experienced higher resolutions you really begin to understand no matter how detailed textures or character models are, there will come a point where 1080p simply isn't a high enough resolution and these high quality assets aren't being done justice.

After playing The Last of Us in native 4K and after playing Uncharted 4 at 1440p, despite the fact that nothing changed in the pro updates aside from resolution, details that weren't possible to see at 1080p suddenly became visible and have the impression of improved assets when really they were the same. 1080p just happened to be too low to make them visible.,

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LastCenturyRob3429d ago

I wold be fine with 1440p/60fps at high to ultra settings!...Would have to upgrade my TV though. Probably would be worth it.

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BlacKJesu53429d ago

You guys do realize that it's not gonna make much sense for developers to make scorpio games right....the main system is being killed and this is a branch off that

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Aenea3429d ago

X1 games will still be made, Scorpio runs X1 games, when the devs are already making their games do more on the PS4 Pro it should be expected they also do the same for the Scorpio...

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BlacKJesu53428d ago

There are hardly any x1 exclusives to be mentioned here. ..sea of thieves? Meh cup head looks like the indie games everyone complains about and crackdown has been garbo....those were your best bets....and of courseba gears or forza patch

Noone is making games for the scorpio

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Aenea3428d ago

"Noone is making games for the scorpio"

MS will be, also every developer will support it with added support or settings just like what's happening with the PS4 Pro.

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BlacKJesu53425d ago

Don't kid yourself.

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Aenea3425d ago

"Don't kid yourself."

I'm not kidding myself!

MS will still be making Forza, Gears and Halo. And am sure that all 3rd party games will at least use the same improvements on the Scorpio as they will do for the PS4 Pro. They could do a little more of course but if they are willing to put in that extra time and effort depends on how well the Scorpio will sell...

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medman3429d ago

Well, I guess the compromises the sane among us knew would have to be made are being confirmed by another dev. No surprise.

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riibhu3429d ago

That means no improvement. Just minial graphics patch like pro has. That's a shame. But it was warrented as developers won't leave developing on weaker platforms(ps4 and xbox one) since larger users are there. So i the end only stronger will suffer just as PC has suufered all this time.

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jasonpugh3429d ago

Well duh! What is with these ridiculous articles.

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ninsigma3429d ago

I just new this would be gaming bolt. And I just new it would be a developer no one has ever heard of. Talk about stating the obvious and creating an irrelevant article. How do we request GB be banned from N4G. They literally offer nothing worthwhile , so I don't get why they're allowed to be submitted.

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DivineAssault 3429d ago

Unless i see some really good exclusives i like to play, ill pass on this one.. DF did a breakdown on the hardware and i dont see the reason in buying it unless they have the games..

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Tzuno3428d ago (Edited 3428d ago )

The problem with current gen is "graphical engines" yes there are systems with huge power but graphical engines must improve a lot to impress and call it a next gen, higher resolution jump was a true next gen but now they hit a wall, look at 1080p and 4k the difference is not that huge to make you drop jaw.

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wutang4ever3428d ago (Edited 3428d ago )

all that power to race on a street with 35mph speed limit.

IF the scorpio is PS4 compatible, I'll buy it. lmao.

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wutang4ever3428d ago

Hmm it's between

Decent console with games VS stronger console with no games

Hmm, i think it's a pretty clear choice

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Jin_Sakai67d ago

30fps sucks. Especially on an OLED.

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