For me it depends on the game. With a game like The Witness I don't really notice the 60FPS due to the slow nature of the game but with Doom I notice the 60FPS immediately. Plus I feel the framerate when playing as well with fast paced titles.

I'm fine with a rocksolid 30FPS but a very unstable 30FPS bothers me.

Very interesting article though.

Well I can notice a difference between 30-60-90-144 fps. Playing CSGO really requires each and every of that 300 frames per second. Most games feel borderline unplayable below 60 fps because it gives me headaches.

Great Article!

Definitely there's no doubt people can easily tell the difference between 30 and 60fps. Even with tv you can notice slow refresh tvs during sports. Most tv programs have static content and aren't moving around enough for the low fps to be very noticeable. But I agree it's tough to say what the upper limit of it is. It's above 60 for sure, and I think it's at least into the low 100s. I notice eye strain in 30 fps games also.

To a Pigeon 30 fps would be like a slideshow. It would need at least 75 fps just to see normal motion. Thats why its hard to catch the buggers. Nothing to do with the subject but interesting all the same.

Only thing I don't really agree on is the "Certainly 60 Hz is better than 30 Hz, demonstrably better" part from Busey. Even as a PC gamer with a VERY competent rig (6700K, 16GB RAM, GTX 1080, etc) and someone that enjoys me my 60fps I will say that some games, especially slower more story driven ones, tend to look better at 30fps.

To me at least. Something like The Last of Us at 60fps feels unnatural. The 30fps limit makes it feel more gritty and real. I know that "technically" it isn't better but my perception of it feels better.

Now games like shooters I can say 60fps is nicer...but it's a different style of game. Hell, even racing games don't really matter. Started playing The Crew yesterday again and didn't notice til 2 hours in that I had the game capped at 30fps in the options. And even then I only went to the graphics options to adjust quality settings...didn't even notice it was running at 30fps! 60fps felt artificial and game-y when I turned the cap off. However, I did adjust and it was fine.

I played tomb raider on the pc at 120 fps on a 120 fps benq monitor.

I could tell the difference between that and 60 quite easily.

I've never experienced past 120fps but i suspect this is my personal limit as it looked as smooth as real life smooth to me.

The human eye doesn't see "frames per second". It does become increasingly hard for the average person to distinguish above 60fps though, especially if it's a slower moving game.

I run dota2 at 140fps + but now its around 100 fps after 7.00 and i can tell the difference. Especially when balanced king ults and it drops to 80.

Also if you don't play games at 100fps + regularly, please don't comment on how "after (insert fps) it doesn't matter" because clearly you don't have the experience to come to that conclusion.

I live my life 60 frames at a time, and for that 1 second, I'm free.

As long as games are smooth i'm happy.

What I do notice in games is how good the animation is.

Uncharted 4 just takes animation to another level. Transitions are so smooth.

All I know is screw motion blur, got enough of that $#!t in real life

Im a human PC and I can see frame rates up to 999999

Well as a pc gamer i can tell the difference between console unstable 40-60 fps compare to a pc with 100+frames at 144hz- 165hz

You're our eyes are always evolving to adapt on the fly. Jumping from PS3 to PS4 you quickly notice the difference. Same go with PC once eye process this speed and smoothness. Hard to go back you always say man wtf is this PS4?

I don't care about numbers. As long as the game is smooth and doesn't drop constantly I'm good.

Actually we see the world in about 250 frames because of the time it takes for your body to process everything. Although that if someone is shown a video running in 220 or 250 FPS he probably wouldn't notice a difference.

That depends, when Im drunk I see about 5 frames per minute.

Theres really no limit in my opinion. The faster your brain can process things the better.

I don't know how many frames we can see, but I do know I can tell within 5 second of moving my character if its not 60fps.

Life moves pretty fast. If you don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

TL;DR It's about 7 or 13 but our visual sense for movement is about 200 "fps". And thats just a generalization. Peoples eyes are unique so theres no true answer.

I am shocked when someone told me ''Human eye can see only 30fps'' I can even notice 120-60fps differences from just looking mouse cursor movement.

Don't know what to say but for me when a game hits 40+ fps i like the fluidity of it.

I guess it's my history of gaming since the late 70s but frame rate has never been a barrier to me enjoying a good game. I will never understand those who get so hung up on frame rate, sure higher frame rates are nice, but it didn't stop Bloodborne being my favourite game of the last 3 or 4 years, it didn't stop me loving every minute of Uncharted 4, it didn't stop me enjoying games on my PC before graphics cards came around.

It's so obvious that 60 FPS is important. Even in Until Dawn the 30 FPS pisses me off.

Tell me again how the multiplatform strategy was supposed to fix everything. Look at your results and compare them to Nintendo, which keeps thriving with exclusives. Your loyal fans are gone. And let’s not forget the pile of IPs you purchased only to let them rot.

The worst thing is this is down from last years numbers/expectations which was down from the previous years numbers/expectations. You think about how long “down” has been a consistent part of the communication and you realize those subscriptions are what’s holding that boat together. The price cut of gamespass is still a price raise in a string of price raises. They are trying to use players to offset the missing revenue. Now call of duty is out of gamespass, which is literally WHY they bought the company. To draw people to the subscription. They realized they missed a boatload of money and that wasn’t sustainable. Now you pay for it like you would have if they never bought the company… so why buy the company? Mind you those billions still need to be paid back. Yeah it gives you a chance to say we make the biggest FPS… but the internal conversations must be brutal at high level on topics that really matter. Like revenue. Profitability. And ROI for the shopping spree.

Is this like the 10th quarter in a row they're down 33% on hardware how is that even mathematically possible. You would think their mediocrity would Plateau