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Phil Spencer Talks Differences Between Scorpio and PC, Scalebound Cancellation and Taking Risks

Today Xbox Division Head Phil Spencer took to Twitter to respond to a few questions from the fans, as he often does.

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SpaceRanger3398d ago

Phil is honestly the only one with sense and honesty. Aaron Greenberg and Major Nelson have ignored all of this, but will probably bring up useless "total gaming hours" stats by the end of the month.

My favorite portion of Spencer's tweets is one that I've been trying to get Xbox Fanboys to understand since...well forever...

https://mobile.twitter.com/...

I said it last gen and I'll say it again. Investing in top notch indies and having exclusives will always matter.

whitesoxfalife19763397d ago

only thing i dont like is that the fact phil gotta keep explaining word by word to these users over there on twitter.
It was never bad like this last gen. I know everybody is open on these platforms but really some these KATS that be questioning arent questioning just stealth trolling getting him to bite and then come with they're agenda Like he is lying 24/7.....

Of course you not gonna a full direct answer and why shud you for so you can turn around and make 250-400 word article of actually twisting what he is saying feeding it us gamers as truth.....

We as gamers need to really understand what really goes on from an industry p.o.v. not as an consumer....

TFJWM3397d ago

Spencer was head of MS studios before becoming head of all of xbox. All of their recent IP problems have happened during his watch. He has had a role in all of these deals and failing games yet since he is a great PR person people seem to just overlook it all.

j15reed3397d ago

I feel like of course you can always have more games, but I'm good with my Xbox backlog is crazy right now. Its all these other people that seem to have issue with everything MS does.

Lonnie183397d ago

What backlog, they need to focus on new ip's not bc!

SpaceRanger3397d ago

What's your backlog? Other than multiplats?

lastking953397d ago

Exactly those ppl complaining arent even interested in xbox. My back log is huge

XanderZane3397d ago

My backlog isn't huge, but I still need to finish Tomb Raider, Gears 4, FH3, Van Helsing and a bunch of other B/C games. I started playing World of Final Fantasy & The Last Guardian and that side tracked me.

TheDivine3397d ago

Lonnie what backlog is there on PS4? Bloodbourne and Uncharted? The only two ps games worth a heck thus far?

What about on WiiU? Bayanetta and Xenoblade X? Maybe Tropical Freeze and Wonderful 101?

Both Xbox and PS rely on indies and third parties. Nintendo relies on only Nintendo. PS finally is getting rolling next year (And its a doozy) but as of right now Xbone has it beat with great exclusives. Not sure how Gears 4, Fora Horizon 3, Recore, Quantum Beak, Dead Rising 4 and Halo Wars 2 all releasing in a year is anything but killer. Throw in BC games, third party games, and older exclusives and it was the best Xbone year and I have a backlog for sure. Just my opinion though. Bloodbourne and Uncharted have been the only exclusives I really loved on PS4. Star Ocean 5 was great as a long term fan of the series but not a lot else. Nioh and Persona 5 are hype though.

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aconnellan3397d ago

What do you mean you've been trying to get Xbox Fanboys to understand that forever?

The Tweet says: "Apologies but this isn't how games get built. There isn't a pour in $X and get game. Much more iterative and organic than that."

For the last 2 days, all I've seen on this site is "Stupid Microsoft should have stepped in more and provided more support and more money", with other more sensible people countering that more money may not have saved Scalebound.

At the end of the day, every game made is a business decision and transaction, whether we like to think that or not. Developers and Publishers need to earn their money back - it's a case of "Scalebound will take 'x' amount of money to make, 'y' amount of time, and based on that should generate 'z' amount of revenue. The longer it takes to make (delays, setbacks, more required resources), the more money has to be poured in, which reduces the amount of money to be made upon release.

It looks to me like what happened was a case of Microsoft and Platinum Games coming to the decision that, after numerous delays and missed milestones, it would be less of a loss to cancel Scalebound now than to pour God-knows how much more money into it to get it finished.

Also, get that 'Xbox Fanboy' crap out of here

rainslacker3397d ago (Edited 3397d ago )

I'd like him better if he explained why the game was cancelled. Saying it's an organic process means nothing to those who were expecting the game or brought the console with the hope of playing this game, nor does it explain why it's good for us consumers that we can not actually play this game due to MS decision. Nothing is said about what came of this cancellation, and all I can see is that we've had a game taken away from potential games to play on the system.

In one tweet he indicated that 1st party studios are critical, yet hasn't explained why under his leadership, not a single 1st party studio has been procured or made from the ground up since he took over, nor given any indication if that's even happening. No ancillary evidence suggest that MS is actually trying to procure or make any 1st party studios.

To date, we haven't seen where this idea that that MS wanted an UC level game(the reason they brought ROTTR exclusive rights) will come to fruition, because MS doesn't have the studios to make it.

So many things Phil says MS needs, or that he wants to do, but so few things he's actually achieved.

I'd actually like someone to name one thing he has promised, or said MS needs, that has come to fruition,or looks to be coming soon, that he likely had some direct control over. Don't say BC, because that happened too soon after he took over for him to be the driving force behind it.

As far as promised games, and lineup hype, I understand that he hasn't been in charge long enough to see what's coming from the efforts to provide new IP's and more games, so I'll give him time on that. Hopefully this year will show some appreciable results.

But, looking at all the things that have happened under his reign, I can't actually say I can 100% credit him with any of them, because they all likely started before he took over.

Phil talks a good game. I believe he means what he says, and likely wants to achieve great things for Xbox. I just don't think he's currently succeeding, or at least, that vision hasn't actually come anywhere close to fruition yet. Whatever it is he's trying to do, can't actually be seen yet....we just kind of know about it because he likes to say nice things to keep people happy.

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maybelovehate3397d ago

I do hope they will bring the Xbox Interface to PC. Implement it like Steam Big Picture mode. Scorpio sounds nice and all but there is no way it will match my PC's performance, I just want a better interface for gaming and entertainment on the couch using my Windows 10 box.

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Take-Two CEO Once Again Side Steps Grand Theft Auto 6 Price Point

Strauss Zelnick says price of GTA 6 is being carefully considered and that Rockstar is focused on "making the most spectacular piece of entertainment on Earth."

Kuma3d ago

If GTA 6 abandons everything that made GTA 5 great, it will crash and burn right out of the gate. GTA 5 was funny and not at all PC. My worry is that they will cave to the PC crowd and ruin the vibes.

Eonjay3d ago

They got freaking BBLs twerking on the top of trucks for the gram, the freaking Flordia joker, and dude running down the stree in their undies and you are worried about it being 'too PC'? The internet has runied gamers. It doesn't matter how non-PC they make the game, you will all listen to the grifters telling you not to believe your lying eyes lol.

gigoran82d ago

"Rockstar Games’ co-founder and former VP of Development Jamie King said he envisions GTA 6 as a game that’s “maybe not quite as edgy or quite as funny” as its satirical predecessors."

oh yeah, totally internet grifters spreading rumors...

blacktiger2d ago

That's part of the plan, they destroyed you but they need to destroy the shareholders? Only 1 shre holder is the true elite that don't care

1nsomniac3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

Meh.., if it’s above £55 I ain’t buying it.

Rockstar are genuinely not half the company they used to be. I was a die hard GTA fan I’ve purchased every game and expansion and spin off day 1.

My opinion of GTA6 is that I can take it or leave it. Not bothered. They burnt too many bridges.

DaReapa3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

So they're actually leaving the door open for an L.A. Noire sequel? Nice!

VaNdAl3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

He should just come out and say it already it's getting stupid it's going to be a 100 bucks $200 for the special edition🤡🤡; 29315;🤣♿

Storm232d ago

I won't be getting this game until I can get it for $70. SHoot, I could wait for it to be even lower. I don't need the game that badly as my backlog is still huge and I am enjoying playing other things.

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Talking Aliens: The Video Games With Author Mike Diver

Skewed and Reviewed have posted an interview with Author Mike Diver about his pending book on Aliens video games.

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Xbox boss: Memory crisis could impact next-gen hardware pricing

Xbox boss Asha Sharma has discussed how component shortages will impact the company's plans for Project Helix.

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Eonjay4d ago

When does this end? Its killing everyone. Consoles and PC. And for what? AI? The benefits of AI are completely outweighed by the negatives. And the government should have never allowed one company to buy up all the RAM.

Lexreborn25d ago

This kind of proves this is an after thought product, most products like this are in r&d 5 years before they start mass producing. So they typically have the cost of components and things worked out long before assembly starts.

This is an assumption still, but I wouldn’t be surprised if project helix is similar to Scalebound,perfect dark and sod3. They had an idea but no actual execution other than concept stage. Being impacted by the ram shortage likely would also put this device 3-4 years out.

I’m not even sure MS has that endurance with Xbox yet

Fishy Fingers5d ago (Edited 5d ago )

I mean.... what?

We're at a point that Samsung wont even provide their own phone department ram because they can sell it at higher prices to 3rd parties (AI). Its more profitable to sell the ram than make their own devices with it.

You think because R&D starts 5 years ago the 3rd party component manufacturers will honour that price? They'll sell it to whomever is paying the most today, not some gentlemens agreement they made years ago. AI farms will buy more volume at higher prices than any console manufacturer will. It'll be the same for Playstation.

Lexreborn24d ago

Contractual agreements are not the same as “gentlemen” agreements. If you think that they work with their distributors a month before production then their entire business model is trash. They work with companies like nvidia constantly for building the graphics cards they need. They work with companies that build motherboards years in advance. This is what proper business planning does.

They are not buying components on a whim like a consumer. So again, considering the ram isn’t a singular module and is integrated into the motherboard I highly doubt they wouldn’t have a final schematic that they are supposed to be building around.

If they are delaying production another 3 years then it’s obvious again this is an after though project and is just trying to be responsive to their bad execution they had the last 14 years.

It also isn’t far fetched to use their failure to produce first party titles the last 7 years including the highly anticipated games I mentioned all being cancelled. That they would continue to you know… lie

Sitdown4d ago

You don't really know how this works huh?

Profchaos4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

Helix is going to be stupidly expensive

Instead of leaning into smarter upscaling techniques they're brute forcing hardware that will cost them dearly and it remains to be seen if it's genuinely going to provide a meaningful differential

I know in the oc.doace people like to brag about not using frame gen or dlss to get to high on a game but for the majority of players they happily use those technologies without a second thought

That's going to be ps6 vs Helix

Eonjay4d ago

Yeah with FSR 5 they should be able to offer a much cheaper version of Helix.

Eonjay4d ago

While this does seem to be the case, I am encouraged by the statement from Microsoft about wanting to provide affordable options. If this means a Series S style Helix, at least there will be something affordable being offered.

XBManiac4d ago

Series S is what has killed Xbox Series so... Will they dare?

blacktiger4d ago

It's called systematic inflationary. Yes we get it Microsoft, keep raising in the name ofall kinds of stuffs

pwnmaster30004d ago

Honestly if there was thing I learned from this generation is that new consoles arnt day one anymore.
I can wait 1-3 years.

DarXyde4d ago

Another important lesson from this generation: while Nintendo showed us that prices don't necessarily need to ever drop, we've now learned that waiting 1-3 years does carry some risk that prices increase. This generation is just bizarre in all the wrong ways.

LucasRuinedChildhood4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

The factors are largely external. Covid and Russia-Ukraine war causing inflation led to the first price increase in 2022.

Then we get Trump's tariffs increasing hardware prices, AI boom causing a RAM crisis, war on Iran causing a worldwide fuel crisis which impacts the cost of everything.

Gaming doesn't exist in a vacuum. The last few years have been a shitshow and lot of it was definitely avoidable.

DarXyde4d ago

LucasRuinedChildhood,

For sure. No disagreement on the external factors doing a lot of this. Where I have to gently push back however is on two fronts:

1. The pandemic definitely caused some issues: asynchronous development was a big issue and really complicated timelines and affected game quality. At the same time, when it comes to price hikes, it's really difficult to know what was genuine necessity and what was taking consumers for a ride. The pandemic brought about "stag-flation" which was increasing prices and stagnant wages, which was a problem caused by supply chain constraints. There was also "Greed-flation", where companies that were slightly affected or had no issues took advantage of the situation and squeezed everyone citing supply chain issues when there were none.

2. It's definitely true that the tariffs, AI boom, and RAM crisis were all things enabled by tech broligarchs throwing money at this caricature of a world leader, one of them being Satya Nadella. I don't think Sony and Nintendo have contributed much to this problem if at all, but Microsoft's Nadella I feel was instrumental in causing every one of those issues. Microsoft as a company contributed to both candidates (though they gave Harris 4x as much if I recall), but Nadella was all in on letting AI run wild. He paid for unregulated AI, and got a war that's not a war (even though Trump called it that at least five times on television) that screwed up helium access. So for me, I feel that one of the players in the gaming industry is a key architect of these issues, and for that reason I struggle a bit to think of it as "external".

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