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The End of Destiny

Pause Resume's Q1 2017 editorials continue with a look at the Destiny saga. From a leaked ‘First on Xbox’ contract in 2012, right through to the last expansion Rise of Iron that released just a few months ago.

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joab7773437d ago

Their biggest issue imho is communication. With nothing said about Destiny 2 and nothing about content coming before it's release, players are again feeling the familiar anxiety that comes. Is it worth even playing anymore in nothing will carry over? Are raids gonna be updated for the spring or held for the sequel? Is it even releasing in 2017 and if not, is there any more content coming at all?

At times Bungie has been a bit better at communicating, but then at times, they completely disappear. The community is strong and loyal. Yes, they are fickle but can handle whatever news is coming. Here's a crazy idea, how about including fans in the development of Destiny 2?

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Kokyu3437d ago

Or at least feed back like they did with rise of iron and TTK.

Kribwalker3436d ago

I've put it down now finally after the recent rumours that your characters won't carry over. After being told they would, finding out everything you do in the game now is useless has kinda killed it for me.

Really they just make destiny 2 a huge expansion with updated graphics etc like world of Warcraft. Now all the content will be gone, and we still liked to do the vault of glass and crota raids, amongst others

jdiggitty3436d ago

I suspect the issue of not being able to carry over characters has to do with them needing to build a new engine. What they have now is rumored to be a nightmare to design for and won't scale up to much more content. They can't just make destiny 2 a huge expansion from what we have. The vault is limited to the space we have now because the engine will literally not display any more information of screen. They just cannot move forward on an engine that is built to work on PS3 and 360. My thoughts anyway.

Kribwalker3436d ago

While I agree that he engine can't do more, my thought was to port existing things into the new engine and expand on it, much like world of warcraft where the recently updated the entire game with their new engine so everything carried forward

JasonBloodbourne3436d ago

I honestly don't believe that destiny 2 will be released this year, usually most companies would of started showing artwork and early footage by now and bungie haven't said anything about it to my knowledge.

DillyDilly3436d ago

Who would have thought that Bungie leaving Microsoft because they got sick of Halo might have bit them in the ass

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Kokyu3437d ago

This games needs a return to its orginal vision. Id love to see a third person option for the game, I really dont care about PVP , so Id like to see less focus on that and more story content actually in game and less girmore.

Destiny 2 has a chance to get it right from the jump here is hoping.

Tapani3436d ago

I agree! More Single Player content and tweaked multiplayer from Destiny 1 with new places to go and more of everything. Maybe with Destiny 2 Bungie can finally complete their vision. New IPs are tricky...

Tussin1873436d ago

I'm sure the second will be better. I understand people's disappointment but this is also a new IP and they went from developing for one system to 4 if we include last gen.

I turn on my PS4, go to live for Playstation and Destiny is always in the top 3 streams. Most of the time at number 2 after GTA. It's not that dead. I have a feeling that D2 is going to be like AC1 and AC2 with part two being much better. We can even throw UC1 and 2 into mix as another example.

Bungie is a top tier developer and I expect them to go all out now that they focus more on the game itself without putting so much effort in creating the engine also. That's usually how it goes.

Tetsujin3437d ago

I stopped playing when The Dark Below first released because I already saw where the game was going, and I was right. I liked the Beta, but the full game was lacking. I know a lot of die hards will argue "it's a good game," well it is depending on what kind of player you are.

Bungie lost a customer with how short the game is, the lies, and how they let Activision call the shots at the end of the day.

kayoss3436d ago (Edited 3436d ago )

Its a good game but i agree with you. I just feel like all the DLC they released are cut content that should have been in the vanilla destiny and the newer DLC's and updates are reskinned of current content. This game have the potential to be great, but bungie decided to flush it down the toilet.

With that said, im still playing it because in my opinion the mechanics and control of this game is second to none in regards to a shooter.

ChozenWoan3436d ago

What killed it for me was when I had to start playing on my PS4. Next boot up the game on my PS3 to the point of account activation, then quickly close the game on my PS3. All this just to unlock the DLC on my PS4.

Tumaras3436d ago

Destiny was a very good game, but unfortunately never quite reached the great potential it had. With the expansions, either they couldn't make up their mind or just for marketing reasons, they do 4 expansions...1 very short one, then a slightly longer one, and both left many customers feeling ripped off for what little content they got. Then TTK which was finally a decent sized expansion, followed by Rise of Iron which went back to 2 hours of content for $30 that alienated customers.

Also, Bungie was stubborn as could be and refused to listen to customers regarding in-game mm for end-game content. So unless you knew 4-5 friends who also played Destiny, at the same time, on the same platform, with the same expansions, you had to go external to the game to grovel, beg, and plead your case to hope for a chance to go along on a raid. Everyone hated that and Bungie never did resolve it.

The game itself as far as the graphics, the pvp, the combat, at times the story, etc. were all very good. It's just sad that if not for a few flaws it could have been amazing.

admiralvic3436d ago

"With the expansions, either they couldn't make up their mind or just for marketing reasons, they do 4 expansions..."

I believe the rumored reworking of the story is to blame. We can see in previews and other things that the Dreadnaught, Reef social space and even cutscenes didn't make it into the launch and most were added as DLC later on. Odds are they planned on finishing all that stuff and adding it into the base game, but then they had something new to do and ultimately repurposed them as DLC so they could meet schedule. Taken King they had more time to work on and it quickly became a better expansion, with Rise of Iron being rushed because they didn't expect to fail to meet the Destiny 2 deadline.

"Also, Bungie was stubborn as could be and refused to listen to customers regarding in-game mm for end-game content."

I actually like this choice. I mean, I get the option would be great because it doesn't take away from my ability to find people, but matchmade raids would likely go poorly. Even with LFG people at max light and a mic they sometimes go poorly, so this would likely go unused anyway.

TheRealHeisenberg3436d ago

They could have made it optional. I don't feel that was much to ask. I could go on my own rant about why I stopped playing but it did not matter to Bungie and Activision before then and it won't matter now. They lost a very loyal customer. End of story.

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PlayStation Scales Back Expectations for Bungie as Live-Service Risks Come Into Focus

PlayStation has scaled back expectations for Bungie after reassessing Destiny 2 development costs, highlighting the risks tied to live-service games.

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isarai_lee118d ago (Edited 118d ago )

Honestly Thank Goodness!! Yet another good sign of a possibility of returning to what made them great and undoing Jim Tyans trend chasing love service gamble. Still gotta wait and see just what direction they're going but this is a good sign in my book that they're not betting it all on live service anymore

S2Killinit116d ago (Edited 116d ago )

Not sure what you lot are talking about anymore. They need to cover all range of games. Im primarily a single player gamer, but even I cannot be daft enough to ignore the fact that we need all manner of games including live service games. Everyone here seems to be a market expert.

isarai_lee116d ago (Edited 116d ago )

Yes "all manner" not just exclusively live service like Jim was doing, but you also shouldn't be forcing devs to make games they not only have no experience making, but also flatout dont want to do.

S2Killinit116d ago

Assuming that anything like that is actually the case and not just a perception of n4g commenters of course.

Redemption-64116d ago

@isarai_lee
Yes "all manner" not just exclusively live service like Jim was doing.

I don't understand why you people have to keep making up lies. You can say you don't like some or most of their focus being on live service games, but to say they were exclusively focusing on live service games is pure copium. At most half of their games were live service and the rest were single player games. Seriously why lie about something so obvious?

isarai_lee115d ago

@Redemption-64

You say that as if we don't have word directly from Jim Ryan and PlayStation stating they wanted at least 12 live service games released within a year. Followed by tons of official word of those Live Service games being cancelled after he was pushed out. All studios combined at the time PS had 15 studios, 12 is a hell of a lot more than half of 15, and it was definitely their primary focus evident by the fact that a huge portion of their studios have taken uncharacteristically long to release or announce anything since, hell some studios have yet to release anything this gen almost 6 YEARS LATER! The only one making stuff up is you.

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Relientk77118d ago

It may take a while but maybe they are finally learning. Good! Now stop with the live service crap.

ABizzel1116d ago

I don’t think there’s anything wrong with a live service here or there, but to have many of your studios start focusing on it when there has been little to no experience among them was wild.

Christopher116d ago (Edited 116d ago )

They say this and then immediately release news of the Horizons co-op game that will definitely be a Live Service game.

isarai_lee116d ago

I feel like they knew that given the fact that the very furst thing they say in the trailer is to reassure they still make so games 😆

isarai_lee116d ago

I feel like they knew that given the fact that the very first furst thing they say in the trailer is to reassure they still make so games 😆

vTuro24116d ago

Bet they're regrettings spending those billions pretty hard right now.

S2Killinit116d ago

Destiny has been a huge success.

Redemption-64116d ago

They will not. Destiny has been popular for over 10 years, something most games can never hope to achieve. Most people, including myself those Bungie was going to make a D3 after the final shape DLC. Marathon looks to be a hit and a D3 announcement could break records.

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Destiny 2 Update 9.5.0.5

Patch notes for Update 9.5.0.5, the one about Equilibrium fixes and more, are now available.

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Destiny 2 is considering adding Sparrow Racing League, unvaulted campaigns, more, new survey reveals

A new survey shows Destiny 2 is considering adding Sparrow Racing League, unvaulted campaigns, NPC sidekicks, new PvP and Gambit modes, and much more.

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