#1 I was not trying to dictate how you feel, nor convince you of anything. That's misrepresentation of my stance. You're making this personal when it's not.
#2 You still haven't answered my question; how does it not being universally tied change things, when you're still doing the same tasks to earn said trophies, regardless of the ability to show them off?
Is not being able to show them off, when it's not tied to a universal whatever, the reason that you hate it so much? Or is there some other reason?
#3 I own and frequently play on a PS3. I understand trophies and achievements just fine, tyvm.

I've earned trophies in pretty much every game I've played on PS3, and I doubt the PS4's trophy system is so drastically different to the way the PS3 does it that it bears any significance to the conversation.
Also, in games that offered an achievement list on Wii U, I got the same sense of accomplishment out of doing those tasks as I ever did accomplishing said tasks on the PS3. (which, admittedly, is not much, as I've never really actively hunted down everything in every single game. Some of the Platinum trophies have absurd requirements.XD)
Regardles of being universal or not, achievements are achievements.
So unless you just don't like that not every game has them on Nintendo's systems thus far, or that you can't display them in a public list to impress others, I don't really see the difference between in-game list and a public display tray for said trophies.
Do you just not get any satisfaction out of earning achievements that you can't put out on display, or hate the fact that not all of Nintendo's games have an achievement list? Or am I missing something?

Edit; I'm NOT missing anything, though. The PS3's trophy system works the same way.
I don't think you're understanding where I'm coming from.
There's nothing to admit. Yeah, Nintendo needs to make achievements a thing in more of their games, but they don't need a universal system to do it.
The achievements aren't somehow lower in quality just because they're done differently; you are still earning them the same way either way.

Smoothninja, I own both PS3 and PS4 and there's virtually no difference in the trophy systems between both consoles except the fact that synching trophies is annoying and slow as hell on PS3.

So yeah, you're just using a pathetic and invalid condescending stance towards Monkey here only to disregard his questions... I guess because you can't or don't want to explain why not having a universal trophy system is such a deal-breaker for you.

I know there's a big difference between the trophies in PS3 / PS4 and stickers / achievements / whatever in Wii U.

However, that wasn't what I was addressing.

You said Monkeyman doesn't know anything about trophies because he doesn't have a PS4, despite him having said that he has a PS3, which works pretty similarly, by your own admission.

So, I'm pointing out the flaw in your argument.

Monkeyman asked you a question, you didn't answer it, and just resorted to attacking him. Ironically, you answered that question to ME, despite the fact that I didn't answer it.

"I can't show them off, no one knows I got all 120 stars in Super Mario 64, there's no sense of accomplishment with the Wii U system."

That, right there, is exactly what you could've told Monkeyman to answer his question, instead of attacking him with petty insults or disregarding his opinions with weak and flawed arguments.

Have a good day.

So NOW you give a straight answer; You hate it on the Wii U because you can't show them off in a way you're used to.
You're the type that can only feel a sense of accomplishment from achievements or trophies when you're able to show off with them through some sort of constant list.
It's not the earning that matters MOST to you; it's the "look what I can do!" afterwards that you strive the most for.
You should have just said that in the first place instead of dancing around the subject; I'm not here to make fun of you for that, because there are plenty of people out there, even in the realm of big sports, who are like that.

Oh, and you wanted to know why I haven't gotten a PS4 instead of a PS3 right?
It's because of the online multiplayer being blocked by a pay wall.
I'll get a PS4 later, but only once it has enough EXCLUSIVE single player games that I just can't live without.
Their digital games store was enough of a reason for a subscription service; blocking the ability to play with my friends by slapping a transaction fee in front of that right, is anti-consumer bullshit, and both Sony and Microsoft should be ashamed of doing so.
If the Switch does the same, I'll treat it the same way I have the PS4.

Also; "It doesn't mean he gets the same thrill of trophy hunting. It's obviously not his Forte or he wouldn't game solely on the Wii U. But go ahead misunderstand some more why don't ya.

Bottom line Nintendo only gamers can't understand why trophies and achievements are a part of gaming now and should be expected in some form."

He hasn't misunderstood anything, because I DO NOT SOLELY GAME ON THE WII U.
I own a PS3. The trophy system there is EXACTLY THE SAME as on PS4.
I understand perfectly fine.
What I could not understand was why you hated one over the other, until you explained it was because you value showing off more than making the achievements themselves.
Quit pretending you know better than me or anyone else here; it's rude, and owning a PS4 doesn't give you privileged knowledge that no one else can understand.
I've shown you civility and respect from the start, but if you really want to continue being condescending towards me with statements and attitudes like that, then I can stop being civil in a heartbeat, or better yet, just outright ignore you going forwards.
Your call.