WOW! so much ridiculousness in one comment it literally hurts to read it. I'll just focus on one thing, "The videos have been BS scripted events up till now. Typical guerrilla games" please explain this comment. Guerrilla games are known to be one of the best devs in the business when it comes to graphics. Their games may not always be the best gameplay wise but no one, and I mean NO ONE can EVER argue the visual quality of their games. Your comment is nothing but nonsensical bitterness with no basis in reality other than to bi**h and moan like a whiny manchild just because you can. I'm pretty sure you'll be absent from every article like a crab retreating in its shell when this game comes out and proves you wrong.

Did not say anything about graphics. In fact I said GG are a master of graphics.

I remember how all the fanboys were excited for No Man Sky. I see similar warning signs with this game because so far beyond the fact that you hunt robo dinos, the game doesn't seem to have anything else to it. When it comes down to it, I simply don't trust the devs. These guys are good at making tech demos, not games. Their last good game was Killzone 2.

go lick your pink xbox controller.

I actually have a glowing pink Xbox controller. Well, it can be pink. And also, PS4 > Xbone for me.

But eh...**** me right, can't handle the truth just like no mans sky. And that wasn't even first party. Thats right Maxor, they're good at making crappy content look good. Killzone 2 was great. But literally every other game they release has been a let down. Overhyped, let down. They have been okay. Not great. But when Horizon was shown..here I am thinking, wow...they shoulda tried a new game and genre before. Now I know why, GG are good at technical side of things. But bad at making solid gameplay mechanics, any sort of innovation in gaming outside of graphics. They're literally taking a step back to the 2000's of open world action games or RPG's with such heavy procedural generation being involved in a game. They're using something other open world devs try not to use any more.

Perhaps the noteworthy point is the technique running on gpu. So the weak cpu on the ps4 is freed to do other things. Also i dont think this game is procedurally generated As no mans sky. I am not sure for certain but I would bet that most of the world is hand crafted with an extra layer of procedurally generated items.

Irishguy guy is eager to bash the game based on nothing. Sad and funny at the same time.

IrishGuy95,

There's a fair amount of talent from CDPR on Horizon. I wouldn't be so dismissive. Not yet, anyway.

@Christopher - read the article again. He is talking about procedural generation. He talks about how it creates the game world on the fly. Not the same as scripted environment for sure.

But I guess we will hear more on it next year at the conference?

I myself really do not like procedurally generated games myself. Especially despising the game types like where dungeons are generated new each time you play.

I would hope that they do have a more scripted approach to the landscape because if you play through a game a second time and everything feels different then that is where I lose my interest.

But seeing videos released already it doesn't appear to have a random pattern to play... but we will just have to see what actually comes about when the game is released?

You don't understand this technology. It has nothing to do with the game world, but only how the hand-crafted game world is displayed through the frame buffer.

You just made a fool of yourself. Think before you type, son.

smh....I see you don't know what the term means. You legit wasted a lot of time simply because you didn't read what it actually means.

Refute what your saying? Buddy....you don't even know what the damn article is about, your whole point is irrelevant because its not what the game is doing ,you literally ignored the whole article and started talking about something completely irrelevant simply because it sounded the same.

But.....did you read? This is one of the saddest things I've seen in a long, long time. Someone isn't dumb because the don't know, they are dumb because they refuse to find out.

So.....nope.

its an easy nope because its NOT what their talking about......soooooo nope.

lol someone didn't read.

Haha getting all upset makes it even better. You are confusing it with procedural generation. They are talking about the way the environment is populated as you go through the world. Most games have some way of doing this. All open world games have some procedural stuff or else every npc and the whole area would be exactly the same every time you went there.

@Irish

It's a new technique, or at least a new implementation. It is designed from the ground up around the PS4 and uses proprietary technology.

You haven't seen this before, you've seen something similar, so stop faking concern .
The PS4 is designed differently to PC, it is heavily GPU focused and this tech is tailor made for it (it wouldn't even transfer well to XBOne because of the reduced shader pipelines).

So please stop trashing it without seeing it first.

The reason nobody is refuting it is because unlike you, they don't see a 'buzzword' and think they know all the ins and outs and intricacies, unlike you.

^Thanks, Christopher, for attempting to do what I couldn't be bothered to. There are some people who will avoid all learning and listening and prefer to create negativity. These people clearly find it hard to admit their mistakes, so I choose not to bother to try to educate or even have a discussion with. They already have their minds made up and the facts, to them, are irrelevant.

Are you seriously doing this before the game is even released? I mean seriously?

@LamerTamer

Procedural generation CAN and very often does include a "random" component. However, if desired, you can seed your random number generator to get the same exact "random" results every time.

@InUrFoxHole

LoL It's so easy to trigger people on this site . I tried to list a numbers of factors that could've been cumulative reasons to why it sold well but he and the down voters be getting mad and resort to name calling ... not even worth my time. Obviously if the 1st game sold like 25 mill and the 2nd sold like 15 mil then my point still stands that the second game didn't sell as well by a large margin . Add in bundles and the free giveaways ( with the $10 upgrade to add to the sale factor) and other none main entries ( which the article didn't specify it was only ) could've added to the total.

Even people commenting that they love the series with very minute criticisms the fanboys start crashing out like Sony games are holier then thou even though almost every sequel they've put out perform significantly worse then the originals . I wasn't even really trying to knock it as a series as opposed to just being a little sus about the sales figures but a majority can't handle opinions that aren't their own ... so soft so squishy haha

@InUrFoxHole

Just to you and your pathetic ilk. Sony's fiscal year 2021 (FY21) Q4 covered the three months ended March 31, 2022. During this time period they sold around 2M PS5s. Horizon forbidden west released during this quarter. The next quarter was Sony's fiscal year 2022 first quarter (FY22 Q1) ended on June 30, 2022. This period covers the three months from April 1, 2022, to June 30, 2022. They sold around 2.4M PS5s. Before the holiday season, PS5 was averaging around 600K to 800K a month. Hell if memory serves me correctly, they sold around 500-600K PS5s the same month that Horizon forbidden west was released. Keep in mind this is all PS5 sales, from all bundles to stand-alone systems. Same year, Sony also had the GOW and COD PS5 bundles. Also, are we forgetting Horizon forbidden west also released on PS4? Figures suggest the PS4 version was a significant portion of early sales. The PS4 didn't have a bundle of the game. So should we ignore the PS4 with the bigger player base and pretend most the this game sales were on PS5 and due to bundles?

In 2023 when it was announced that Horizon forbidden west has sold around 10M, a smooth brain like @Miraak82 said on Twitter and I quote:
"The point is that out of the ten million sold this year, most were bundles and most were horizon bundles. It’s not hard. Transitive property shows you that if ps5s sell and they come with a game, the game sells. It’s not an argument, that’s what happened."

Christopher Dring, editor-in-chief and co-founder of The game business responded saying: "But 80%+ of Horizon's sales across Europe were not part of a bundle" He is known for his expertise in the video games market, particularly for his analysis of sales and data.

It takes a special breed of stupid to see this game and start screaming it only sold because it was bundled or most of it's sales were from bundles, completely ignore PS4 sales, and other PS5 game bundles

@Miraak82

Sorry, are you stupid of something? Honest question. Since when did something free count as a sale? As a public trade company, you know lying about sales can lead to legal problems right? It is literally illegal for them to lie about the sales of a product and can result in server consequences. So I will ask again, are you really that stupid?

Also the Sony themselves said the games that came with Play at Home initiative are free. Can you please provide us with a link to backup your lies. Please show is all the games giving away were all counted as sales. I'm sure you have insider information to show Sony lied to their shareholders about the sales of their games.

Could count as a sale if those people did the $10 upgrade , if I decide to try it out again I would definitely do it and I’m pretty sure a lot of those people did . There’s plenty of ways to prop up sales numbers even counting the lowest of margins lol

@Miraak82

Could count as a sale if those people did the $10 upgrade?

Seriously, where the hell are you getting these lies from? Sony themselves literally call it an upgrade. The most they can do is add it to the revenue of the game, not a sale. Can you please provide proof to backup your ignorance? Thanks in advance