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Xbox: “We'll look back on 2016 as our tipping point”

Fresh momentum suggests that Xbox One has overcome its troubled launch

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darthv723332d ago

2016 has been a great year for the XB1. It is a worthy companion system to have.

GtR35olution3332d ago (Edited 3331d ago )

Sony sold 50 million ps4s in three years and they sell 2:1 or more ps4s more than xbox one worldwide on a monthly basis, facts. Npd is just America. Things will be worse november 2017 when ps4 is $250 and $350 for pro while xbox one will be $250 and $500 for scorpio imo.

There isnt any tipping point for microsoft except that theyve only managed to outsell the ps4 in one region a few times by mere thousands which is in america. While xbox one averages about 500k a month the ps4 is doing over one million or so a month so the xbox one selling 20k more than ps4 in npds is insignificant when ps4 wins monthly 2:1 worldwide every month. The xbox one hasnt cut into the ps4s overall lead at all when their competition outsells them by half a million monthly. Its like some talking about about xbox one selling 5k more then ps4 in the UK a few times but ps4 averages 3:1 more sales worldwide in europe. Some people never talk about worldwide because it would make any xbox one tipping point talk look silly

If scorpio is like i think itll be i think itll cost $600 because of the new tech but at that price itll barely move off shelves. Im hoping scorpio will be as powerful as i want because im willing to pay the higher price for more powerful console.

PistolsAtDawn3332d ago

Nothing you said refutes anything he said....stop being so insecure

Thatguy-3103331d ago (Edited 3331d ago )

Regardless of your facts one can't congratulate MS enough for turning it around with the Xbox one this year. Yea when comparing it to ps4's sales there's no competition but that's not what they're talking about. This year they truly made a lot of strides whether people like it or not.

n4rc3331d ago (Edited 3331d ago )

Why does everyone now think Scorpio is some crazy showcase for new tech or something and it'll cost a fortune..

It's a low-mid grade PC by today's standards.. lol.. Rx 480 is about 6tf and under 300 RETAIL right now..

edit... its only impressive for the console space and all the hardware is currently available now at an affordable price.. they are partners with AMD and wont pay anything close to retail. they also dont go into production for awhile now so it only gets cheaper..

ShadowKnight3331d ago (Edited 3331d ago )

🙊🤔

christocolus3331d ago

@GtR35olution

Lol. Your post comes off as insecure. The Xbox One is still doing great just not as great as the PS4.

obidanshinobi3331d ago

They haven't sold 50 million, they have shipped 47 million to retailers.
Also MS have the lead in Brazil as the XB1 is about half the price of the PS4 over there due to MS having a manufacturing plant tin Brazil whereas Sony get stung by Brazil's ridiculous import taxes.

I own both consoles but I love driving games and space games, Elite Dangerous is amazing, so generally use my XB1 more though I'm currently playing Dishonored 2 on the PS4 and looking forward to the Last Guardian. Having both consoles gives you the best of both worlds.

marquisray3331d ago

It will be on my shelf i cant wait

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freshslicepizza3331d ago

it's all context. the ps2 did so well it crushed the competition into oblivion. the fact is the xbox one is still holding its own against a very well marketed product the ps4. that system is now hovering at about 50 million in just over 3 years so of course the xbox one does not appear to be doing wel in comparison but ask yourself, where is nintendo?

we all know sony fans seem to be the most apprehensive to give microsoft credit, they will even allow nintendo to fly under the radar as they point most of their negativity towards microsoft and the reason is simple, they are the most competitive to the playstation brand, not nintendo.

microsoft is also doing a much better job spreading out their titles but every time microsoft does something the critics continue to push the goalposts to something else.

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Ricegum3331d ago (Edited 3331d ago )

They've been selling the Xbox One for less than £150 all year, and Xbox One S for around £200 with two games & extra controller.

One would hope they are selling a bit more with those kind of prices. Makes you wonder how MS make any profit at all.

Yohshida3331d ago (Edited 3331d ago )

in germany they gave ps4 slims away for 196€, so both have those kind of deals and that system just came out. Pro is discounted 70€ and wasn't even out half a month.

mark_parch3331d ago

@ Unreal01
yep your right how dare microsoft rip us of with those amazing prices

Gazondaily3331d ago

"Makes you wonder how MS make any profit at all."

They must just be doing it for the lols....

Overload3331d ago (Edited 3331d ago )

Companies usually have a budget. If the margin tips in one area (console pricing) it will be recovered in another (game development). That is why they are selling the Xbox One so cheap, they are producing very little in house software. Since the software is selling only decently, I can't imagine they are turning much of a profit with the division.

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LastCenturyRob3331d ago

Its a worthy system regardless.

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Hoffmann3331d ago (Edited 3331d ago )

Not really. The xbox one is more or less obsolete if you have a PC and a PS4

@bluefox absolutely agreed

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Razzer3331d ago

Yep. I would have probably bought an Xbox One by now, but with Play Anywhere......why?

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FallenAngel19843332d ago (Edited 3332d ago )

Even if Xbox One currently has a momentum, it's still selling slower than PlayStation 3 in the same timeframe, and the PS3 had a much more troubled launch than XO.

Just for reference, Sony's slowest selling console sold 33.71 million by the end of 2009. It remains unlikely that Microsoft's fastest selling console can beat that total by the end of 2016.

darthv723332d ago

while that is true... the XB1 will be MS 2nd best selling system while the PS3 will be sony's 4th (just to keep it in your perspective)

moegooner883332d ago (Edited 3332d ago )

@darth wow, that shows how much work MS still has to do.

FallenAngel19843332d ago

@ darth

It still says a lot that Microsoft's best selling console can't sell more than Sony's worst selling console.

n4rc3331d ago

and amazing 10/10 games wont sell close to the worst COD game... whats your point exactly?

MRMagoo1233331d ago

@narc

what's yours first ? he's talking about consoles not games.

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freshslicepizza3331d ago

how important are those regions for you if a system doesn't sell that well? microsoft will continue to lose out on japanese niche games, so if those are appealing to you then the xbox will likely never be your choice but as far as western games the xbox competes very well in this field, much more than nintendo does.

n4rc3331d ago

What's mine? I made it pretty clear.. and it doesn't matter if it's games, consoles or phones, the point remains the same..

Selling the most doesn't mean you are the best, it means you were most popular... It can be both as well, don't get me wrong..

But grandmother's think all game consoles are "PlayStation" and it's been Synonymous with console gaming for 20 years.. just like a game like cod, Titanfall is a better game yet won't even come remotely close.. cod is a household name and it's name alone will sell.

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Automatic793332d ago

@Darth72

2016 has been a fantastic year. Further, not just 2016 but since launch MS has offered the best games Imo. To me its my primary console.

If you wonder why here are my reasons

Console Exclusives
Xbox Live
BC
EA Access
Controller

Next year Beam Streaming on Xbox live, smooth stream direct from Xbox live.

and this is just from a gaming perspective.

BizarroUltraman3331d ago (Edited 3331d ago )

Its my main console, but Ive been playing more PS4 Pro lately and have a good collection of games with Pro features. So im kicking it on that.

My Xbox One still get the most plays, plus I do more than just game on it. Its my personal hub to be honest. Espn everything on it and all my movies, Amazon Prime account, Ea Access, Netflix, HBO im good. Only time I watch my TV is when Pats or Celtics are on.

Angeljuice3331d ago

XBox for TV, PS4 for games, it's what they were designed for after all.

I don't see why MS needs congratulations for turning anything around, they've been selling strongly from the start.
I think MS have started focusing more on the US lately, they have more control over public perception there and anything they achieve is magnified.

They haven't sold badly at all, at any point (if you don't compare them to PlayStation sales).

SpaceRanger3331d ago

Console exclusives?? Completely subjective. And since they only had three this year, it seems like it's hardly anything to boast about.

And controller? Lol gotta find something subjective to add to that list when there isn't much else.

Eterna1Ice3331d ago

Horizon 3, Gears 4, Quantum Break, Recore, FRU and Dead Rising 4 in a couple of days.

MRMagoo1233331d ago (Edited 3331d ago )

exclusives eternal not multiplats 😂😂😂

edit: I would but it's not in the dictionary....... i guess it's a made up thing to counter the fact xbone has no exclusives.

Eterna1Ice3331d ago

Try searching the definition of a console exclusive.

christocolus3331d ago (Edited 3331d ago )

@Michael

And don't forget Scorpio comes out next year. I'll be getting it day one.

@Angeljuice

Why do you care?All of a sudden you are interested in Scorpio and Xbox games? Huh?

@Captainobvious

Isn't it obvious? I am not a PC gamer.

Angeljuice3331d ago

Michael was talking about 2016, Scorpio won't be here until the arse end of 2017 (with the next wave of X1 "exclusives).

CaptainObvious8783331d ago

Why not save your money and get a gaming pc instead.

Cheaper games, better performing games, free online, more dedicated servers. It's a no brainer.

BizarroUltraman3331d ago

Angeljuice, was trolling the whole time. You gotta read between the lines.

Razzer3331d ago

Use the reply link, dude.

trooper_3331d ago

...What console exclusives?

Halo, Forza, Gears, Killer Instinct?

What about new IPs?

And how many people will use EA Access? How many will use BC? BC isn't a selling point. Exclusives are.

Microsoft still has a lot of work ahead of them after that DRM fiasco.

BizarroUltraman3331d ago (Edited 3331d ago )

You guys always leave off the new ips. Why? Theres others games besides Halo, Forza, Gears. Cant troll anymore if you ad those huh? And you sound so salty that you dont have those features xbox gamers are enjoying. Face it most if not all features added to Xbox are from consumer feedback. And dont forget external hard drive support and 4K blu-ray !!

trooper_3330d ago

So what are they?
I'm waiting.

By the way, disagreeing doesn't change anything I've said because facts are facts. They still have to do a lot more if they want to at least stay relevant.

CaptainObvious8783331d ago

The fact that you had to say 'console exclusive' instead of 'exclusive' really says it all.

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Kashima3332d ago

I don't need a console that doesn't get a support from japanese companies.

BizarroUltraman3331d ago

Then dont get one. Its your prerogative! Bobby said so.

Angeljuice3331d ago

One day's sunshine does not a summer make.

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BizarroUltraman3331d ago

In my opinion, the mess Xbox is in, in terms of sales. Is all Microsoft fault had nothing to do with Sony. They made some very big mistakes at E3, Kinect and price and that was nail in coffin for this gen. The Xbox is a very capable machine and does everything Microsoft said it would and more. With more stuff coming down the pipeline its on an upward trend. Im actually glad they turned around and now with this bit of momentum and can manage a great Scorpio preview at E3 or wherever they decide that would be boast well for the next console. Just keep doing their thing.

And they have a great line up of games and more coming.
Day One supporter still have the original model and a PS4 Pro. Lil Jon "YEAH".....

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NVIDIA rolled out the DLSS 4.5 update at CES last week, adding 2nd Gen Transformer-based Super Resolution technology for all RTX GPUs. The performance scaling varies wildly across the older (RTX 20/RTX 30) and newer (RTX 40/RTX 50) GeForce RTX lineups. We tested NVIDIA’s next-gen upscaling solution across Cyberpunk 2077, Black Myth: Wukong, Oblivion Remastered, and KCD 2.

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MrDead4d ago

I've been surprised by this, the difference between 4 and 4.5 is very noticeable. It's almost completely or has removed that weird dark ghosting that you'd get in foggy games like Silent Hill 2... and Cyberpunk mixed with a high res texture pack is jaw dropping in ultra 4k.

Also if anyone doesn't know I recommend DLSS swapper, it allows you to inject the latest DLSS version into older games.

batiti932d ago

totally useless since NVIDIA app release last year... It does force latest DLSS to global settings if you ask the app to do so.

MrDead2d ago

The NVidia app doesn't let you choose which version of, DLSS Frame Gen and DLSS Ray Reconstruction like DLSS Swapper does.

Goodguy013d ago

Quite amazing. But, this does probably mean devs will depend on ai even more for their supposed optimizations lol.

Neonridr3d ago

no offense to AMD, but this sort of stuff shows that they are always going to be playing catchup. I guess Nintendo can take advantage of some of these features.

badz1492d ago

With the Switch 2? NVidia can easily lock their proprietary tech to their latest GPUs and the Switch 2 will be stuck on 3.5 for 5 more years at least

Neonridr2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

4 and 4.5 are available on 2 and 3 series cards right now. The Switch GPU is based on 3 series architecture, meaning it has access to some of those features. Obviously not as much as the higher end cards, but still some.

TheDreamCorridor1d 23h ago (Edited 1d 23h ago )

"Better than native."

Native 4K in nearly all games nowadays is actually native resolution with forced temporal anti-aliasing.

TAA smears and blurs frames together to soften jagged edges.

Of course DLSS makes games look "better than native" because native alone without any competent AA methods makes games look horrible.

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