so should bloodborne since so many are asking for it and sony does have some say about that game. the more games that get patched the better value the ps4 pro offers. right now there aren't that many games that are pro enabled.

I completely agree, and framerate is one of the points of concern I have moving forward. The biggest reason that I bought a Pro was for improved framerates moving forward on 1080p titles, and this would be a prime example of a game that deserves it. I think when Digital Foundry was running their base tests on this game with their theoretical Neo hardware based on the specs that had leaked, it seemed entirely feasible that 60 fps was not only possible, but they could have it nearly consistent at 60 with several other improvements.

A lot of people feel that creating a higher framerate in 30 fps multiplayer titles would cause an unfair advantage. Though I would argue that there are already many other factors that could create that imbalance in the console environment, so this really shouldn't be a restriction. People who are willing to pay for better network hardware (router and modem), as well as paying for better internet service packages for the best connection possible (or even having specific ISPs available that allow faster connections), paying for premium controllers (driving wheels, arcade sticks, SCUF controllers, etc), and several other related things will each tend to offer some advantages because the people who want these benefits are willing to shell out more money. Even with the PS4 Pro, one of Sony's own features gives an advantage, with the USB mode for the controllers offering a lower input lag than the base PS4.

It is for these reasons, combined with the fact that developers are allowed to smooth out previously rough framerates with Pro (unlocked 60 fps titles that dip down to 40 are allowed to run at a stable 60, or 30 fps titles that dropped to 20 could run at a locked 30), and the fact that better resolution, draw distance, and various other technical improvements which could effect gameplay are allowed to be updated, makes me wonder why they imposed this specific mandate.

Like you had mentioned, various framerates already co-exist in the PC environment, with some people playing at 144Hz while others play under 60 or even closer to 30. It's all about what people are interested in and willing to pay for. The Pro is a gaming enthusiast targeted device, so instead of just leaving everything to the developers and putting restrictions on how framerate can be implemented, I want them to treat it as an enthusiast device and actually push devs to offer a 60 fps mode in 1080p.

Maybe that's hoping for too much, but seeing some games like Rise of the Tomb Raider on the Pro running at an average 40 fps when in the unlocked framerate mode, and others like Deus Ex getting some relatively consistent 20 fps dips is really disappointing to me. Just provide a solid 60 fps at 1080p and no lower than a solid 30 at 4K, and even if everything else looks the same or marginally better than the base PS4 version, I think that would make a lot of people very happy. If nothing else, I really hope this becomes a standard option.

correction remastered from the PC sku both xbox one and ps4 came from PC. :D

Correction correction, its just a port for the console. Nowhere does GTA V for PS4 say "Remastered" on the front of the box. The same way Tekken Tag Tournament 2 for Wii U wasn't "Remastered" either, it was a simple port.

Err the PC version of GTA V still came later after PS4 and Xbone versions.

GTA V for the Xbone and PS4 are remasters, sorry to bust any bubbles here...

http://nerdist.com/the-must...

Not until late 2018- 2019

I think it shows how shortsighted it was for Sony to let go of Evolution and not get them to make some sort of competitor (open world Driveclub?) 10 years ago.

yeh, football is really popular here in europe ha

What exactly are we not getting?

Did we not just have a 2025 filled with nice games like...

Silksong, Doom TDA, Expedition 33, Kingdom Come Deliverance 2, Ghost of Yotei, Dispatch, Split Fiction, Hades 2, DK Bananza, and so many more?

Such a pessimistic view. This year gave so many good games.

Popsicle, I actually think we're getting more great games because of the slop. Developers are seeing that people aren't happy and taking advantage of big AAA studios not delivering for people.