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The Xbox One Is The PS3 Of This Generation

This is a story we've all heard before- a console manufacturer was coming off of their second console in the market, which had been incredibly successful, and the standard of all third party game development during that generation. The console manufacturer felt like they were on top of the world, and that they could do no wrong- in the process, they completely misread the market.

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stuna13487d ago

Just No! Unlike the PS3 sure the Xbox 1 is selling better in select countries, but that where the differences become apparent between what made the PS3 stand out! The Xbox 360 consistently outsold the PS3 in the U.S but worldwide every month the PS3 cut away at the Xbox 360 lead.

Now with the PS4 and Xbox 1 the PS4 is still widening the sales gap, even though the Xbox 1 has started winning months on NPD, it has still been unable to outsell the PS4 Worldwide even with its biggest IP's released, which matters most.

Abash3487d ago

Yeah, the PS3 was hot on the Xbox 360's trail the entire gen, even when the Xbox 360 had a $199 SKU starting in 2008. The PS4 is way ahead of the Xbox One, selling about twice as many units in the same amount of time.

Fatal-Aim3486d ago (Edited 3486d ago )

Um....no. The XB1 is not the PS3. In fact, it sells lesser than the PS3 in the same given time frame. But let's forget about those numbers for a second and focus on the bigger picture here. Unlike the XB1, the PS3 was constantly selling better than the 360 on a global scale despite the 360 having a firm grip on select regions -- leading at a 2 to 1 in total sales there. Regardless of the fact, the PS3 was able to shrink an 8 million gap and eventually eliminated it completely and pulled ahead of the 360's life time sales over time. The XB1 is in no such position nor even close. While it has managed to sell ok in four months on its own soil, the ratio between the two units is 2 to 1 on a GLOBAL scale rather than a specific region like that of the 360. And with no means of slowing down, the XB1 will NEVER, in it's entire life time, cease nor close the ever increasing 2 to 1 gap (20 million) between it's leading competitor. People thinking otherwise are pretty much the delusional minority.

freshslicepizza3486d ago (Edited 3486d ago )

the ps3 started out expensive, so did the xbox one

the ps3 started out marketed as more than a game console as did the xbox one. both have rebounded to suggest it is a game console first.

https://www.cnet.com/news/k...

"The PlayStation [3] is not a game machine. We've never once called it a game machine," stated Kutaragi at the beginning of his latest interview.

the ps3 got inferior multiplat games at first but the xbox one will continue to be a weaker system than the ps4.

both have had multiple sales to bring down the price.

the big difference is the ps3 went through the most changes in revised hardware.

another big difference is the online services were subpar on the ps3, not so on the xbox one.

the biggest difference will be in total sales. the ps3 managed to rebound and catch and surpass the xbox 360 in worldwide sales. the xbox one wont do that.

the ps4 is the lead platform as was the xbox 360 over the ps3. the cell technology failed to provide developers what they wanted which pushed sony to adopt a much easier system to work on with the ps4. develoeprs have not had the same concerns over the xbox one, it is not more difficult and actually quite easy to port.

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Deadpooled3486d ago

@moldybread

I stopped reading at - the ps3 started out marketed as more than a game console "as did the xbox one"

Saigon3486d ago

On top of that...we cannot forget about the games that made the console what it was...in no way shape or form is the XB1 similar to the PS3. GameBolt nice try again.

XisThatKid3486d ago (Edited 3486d ago )

Seriously, i thought the same thing as soon as i seen this title. There's a very few parallels but that are NO WHERE the same almost everything in the PS3 was brand new tech. That is why it was advertised as more than a console Sony was banking on the success of the PS3 for Blu-ray to thrive. But was still a game console first and that's the way it was presented. Not to mention the point made several times over PS3 outsold 360 worldwide month in and out with a year headstart. 360 had no direct competition for a year and couldn't pull in 10 mill. This is the first time the competitors released near each other let alone the same week and it's 2 to 1 in Sony's favor and i honestly think this is MS best system to date (hardware and feature wise).

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Kingthrash3603485d ago

Lol
How bad are "journalists" trying to make the xbox look like it will comeback this gen?
The xbo won 4 month in the US...and we all know why. That's great...but to compare it to a console that launched a year later than its competitor and still won is just bananas. Not to mention the games library the support all the way until the ps4 came out...stuff like that....its just a ridiculous article.

darthv723485d ago (Edited 3485d ago )

The 3rd console curse continues. It happened to atari, sega, nintendo, sony and now MS.

Its basically a generalization that the 3rd system released by a company may be superior to the previous release (technically) but its overall sales are under what was previously released or anticipated to be.

It does not mean that system is bad, it just means people have turned their attention to another in the same generation.

And @moldy, while your comparisons may be factual, it seems many cant see them as that and only see them as insults. Comparatively speaking, the ps3 went through the same growing pains the xb1 is and eventually grew out of them to become the 3rd best selling PS platform. XB1 has a tougher road ahead due to the stigma surrounding the xbox brand but has the potential to be the 2nd best selling xbox platform.

MyDietEqualsGames3485d ago

Keep in mind the PS3's price was astronomical and couple that with consistently being the highest costing console out of the 2. Also RROD fluff numbers taken away, PS3 was a monster sales machine with regards to the titanic uphill battle it faced, starting with $599.99. It's undeniable with the facts out there.

UCForce3485d ago

@MoldyBread I hope you are realize that MS will return their original plan what they did back in 2013. So expect MS going to disappoint you.

indyman77773485d ago

@Abash not only was it on it's trail the entire gen.

1, PS3 was leading in MANY countries.
2, PS3 was the most powerful console(that helped it overtake 360).
3, Xbox one is NOT more powerful than PS4 (yeah I know it is a understatement).
4, The lead that PS4 has is record setting.
5, Plus A Big reason PS3 fell behind xbox360 was the PS3 price was 599 compared to xbox036 pice 399.
This time the launch prices where the same.
6, Plus another reason is Xbox had over a year head start in sales. xbox one does NOT,This generation.
7, Microsoft launch policies are still lingering, especially since a lot of people have noticed that Microsoft
pulled those polices back in the US and Europe but NOT in CHINA! proving that they did have those
polices after all!

vickers5003485d ago

I waited in line, at launch, in a raffle contest in which I won the chance to purchase the second to last ps3. I was there from the beginning, didn't own a 360 until MUCH later on (until the gears 3 customized slim version).

I went through the game droughts, constant 360 fanboy boasting and having to defend against that online, etc. And I was there for the eventual comeback. Or when Sony removed otherOS. Remember when Sony changed the playstation brands font from spiderman theme to that horizontally stretched font, or when they changed the startup music ever so slightly? I do. Remember when they finally ditched that horrible web page psn store in favor of an actual GUI? I do. Addition of trophies, the slow loss of ps2 backwards compatibility, removal of memory card slots and extra usb ports, the painful wait for the ps3 to finally get a patch to allow 1080i support (my tv at the time didn't support 720p at the time, just 1080i), wait for vibration to come back into the controllers (bought one from japan so I didn't have to wait). I was there for it all.

Xbox One in a lot of ways reminds me of ps3, and I've been seeing a ton of similarities between it and the ps3. You'd have to be a fanboy not to admit the similarities, or someone who was only there for the golden days of the ps3.

I think people deny them because they're such fanboys, and comparisons seem like insults to them.

And while the similarities may be slowing down at this point, it's a more than fair point to compare the two systems.

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trooper_3486d ago (Edited 3486d ago )

The media is trying to spin these four lucky months into a comeback. The XB1 is nothing like the PS3.

Disagree as much as you want because you can't prove otherwise.

game4funz3485d ago

You can't prove it isn't...
Here's a similarity: both came out more expensive then the competition.

Disagree all you want. Facts are facts.

trooper_3485d ago

Gee, I guess more people agreed with me. Go figure.

masterfox3486d ago

Prepare to feel the wrath of anti-common sense people :D

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KwietStorm_BLM3486d ago

"a console manufacturer was coming off of their second console in the market, which had been incredibly successful, and the standard of all third party game development during that generation. The console manufacturer felt like they were on top of the world, and that they could do no wrong- in the process, they completely misread the market."

So this isn't true?

S2Killinit3486d ago (Edited 3486d ago )

Yeah no. PS3 had some of the biggest most impactful first party exclusives of the generation.

Muzikguy3485d ago (Edited 3485d ago )

No way is it the PS3 of this generation. Did the PS3 have unclear messaging? Did the PS3 tout TV over games? Did it put in an accessory people didn't want? Did it get bundles like mad just to sell? Did it tout clouds and things that haven't come to be? Did it flip switches? Was it that big? Did it not sell anywhere outside the US and U.K.? Is it going to come from behind and outsell the competition?

No. the Xbox One is not the PS3 of this generation.

@fatal

Could even be a delusional majority and they'd still be delusional.

DAEMONIFEAR3485d ago (Edited 3485d ago )

Mate the PS3 did nothing to the 360 until the last 2yrs of it's existence so late to the show when no one cared and if so were most likely the same guys who bought the 360 first!

So Sony pulled ahead of a market at the end of the life cycle lol that's not impressive at all!

The X1s in my opinion is the better console and trust me I was all PS4 like everyone else but Sony just isn't doing anything for me..and I refuse to support Sony from their lack of actual customer support it's the worst experience I've ever had!

I say overrated and the experience I had with PSN is a joke always down and the worst kinda lag!

Xbox had issues and I use the word had because they don't anymore and they've done everything right since Phil took over! A faster PC doesn't make a game better..Sony bandwagon dwellers need to realise this! A good game is made up of so much more then what the damn pixels run at!

Muzikguy3485d ago

You talk like PS4 has no games😂😂

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Hoffmann3487d ago

The Playstation 3 was able to gain ground fast though, and in the end the sales were not a lot behind the xb360.

If the numbers at wikipedia are true its

84 million sold xb360 at June 2014
85 million sold ps3 at march 2016

Currently it looks like the xb1 won't even reach half of the sold ps4's before the next circle starts with the xbox scorpio "beast"

That's why I wouldnt call the XB1 the PS3 of this console generation.

SCW19823487d ago

If we are talking worldwide the PS3 outsold the xbox 360

Kribwalker3486d ago

Please show me some official data, not vgchartz that state the PS3 outsold the 360. I've been waiting for a couple years for some info but no one has been able to provide me with info. The 360 hit 80 million a month before the PS3 hit 80 million, then the 360 hit 84 million by June 2014, and in July that year the PS4 (over 10 million) the vita (between 5-7 million) and the PS3 (80+) hit 100 million combined, meaning it was either 83-85 million but Sony gave no definite numbers on it, instead choosing to combine the 3 platforms sales together....so please again, show me proof of what you are stating. And if it's statista again, if you read at the bottom, it states VGCHARTZ as its source.

http://www.gamespot.com/art...

http://www.gamespot.com/art...

SCW19823486d ago

@Kribwalker

Are you saying you really don't believe that the PS3 finished in second place last gen? Denial is one hell of a drug.

game4funz3485d ago

Proof? Cuz I don't believe there are any official numbers.

Kribwalker3485d ago

@scw

Denial is a hell of a drug eh? Then please show me some official proof that proves me wrong, as all official numbers have the 360 hitting milestones before the PS3 does. 84 million a month before Sony won't give out numbers but combined between 3 platforms and 80 million a month before the PS3 hit 80 million.

PhoenixUp3485d ago

@ Krib

Use simple logic. Even if Microsoft announced 360 sold 80 million a month before PS3 did, 360 was still released an entire year earlier. That much should tell you that PS3 sold at a faster rate than 360 since day one and has clearly outsold it by now.

Kribwalker3485d ago

@pheonix

Do you not think Sony would have announced the sales numbers in July 2014 if it had surpassed the Xbox 360 84 million from June that year instead of bundling PS4/vita/PS3 numbers? Both sides (Xbox and PS) use something called marketing and will spin things there way if the numbers don't add up. MS announced 84 million, much like Sony announces PS4 sales numbers and MS does not release Xbox one sales numbers, but instead spin it, much like Sony with the PS3 since MS announcement of 84 million

_-EDMIX-_3485d ago

@Krib- the issue regarding the sales of the PlayStation 3 and 360 is actually much more simple than you might think.

It was actually theorized two years before those final numbers came out that the PlayStation 3 possibly had a higher install base because there were several titles that sold better on PlayStation 3 then 360 despite the sales discrepancy.

There was also the massive failure rate of 360 to were analyst began theorizing that the number of 360s that were purchased may not actually represent the number of working 360s currently.

So because of the solid build of the PlayStation 3 those numbers are likely much more solid than that of the 360 s where we heard people literally going through 5 Xbox 360 through that generation.

The PlayStation 4 and the Xbox One have very solid builds so don't be surprised if the numbers you're looking at might truly represent the install base that probably was last generation.

I'm sorry but once you factor in PlayStation's worldwide appeal in Microsoft failure and many regions in the world as well as their ridiculous Infamous failure rate it actually becomes extremely likely that the PlayStation 3 outsold the 360 probably around 2011 or 2012.

Kribwalker3485d ago

Please edmix

Firstly it would be investor fraud if they were lying about sales of consoles and hiding numbers in doing that. It would be totally illegal.

Now if you are saying people just tossed their old one out and bought a new one then that would be another sale. But you cannot count sending a repaired console out as a sale.

2nd, the only thing out there about that is a forum thread. There is nothing substantiated on that in the least and I don't understand how you can continue to state that without any facts. I provided facts. I did not provide hearsay or theories, I gave facts, something not one of you have been able to provide

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Errorist763486d ago (Edited 3486d ago )

Not far behind?! They overtook the 360 after 6 years or so, even with one year head start. Those Wikipedia numbers are wrong.

Hoffmann3486d ago (Edited 3486d ago )

After six years would be around 2014, so these numbers might be relative accurate...maybe ^^

I bet its something like 90m PS3's vs 88m Xb360' now but whatever anyway. My point just was that the whole comparision was not that good because last gen we had a quite different situation than now/in 2013.

The Xbox One has no chance in hell to become number one in the end.

Deadpooled3486d ago

That xb360 figure was tainted by RRoD

Hoffmann3486d ago

Lol yeah...bet a few millions were not sold but replacements that they had to give the customers

343_Guilty_Spark3486d ago

New gen started 2013.

Ps3 didn't surpass 360 til 3 years after the 7th gen was over.

Sunny_D3485d ago

Really so releasing games for the older consoles doesn't mean anything? So, why release Tomb raider and Titanfall on Xbox 360 if the generation was over. That logic lol. Sales continue to happen despite whatever arbitrary year your mind is telling you.

extermin8or3485d ago

They both claimed to be on 10 year paths. Thus the competition just ended.

343_Guilty_Spark3485d ago

Gen was still over...of course the old system was still receiving limited support and getting sales but the gen was over. It was good and over in 2014 and 2015.

_-EDMIX-_3485d ago

Your point? PlayStation 2 kept selling long into PlayStation 3's life cycle

Razzer3480d ago

That makes absolutely no sense.

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JJShredder3487d ago

Read the article people. I know it's Gamingbolt but the point they make is that MS is turning around their focus to the gamer and making decisions that are benefiting gamers in general. They really need to expand their catalog of games and more steadily release stuff but you can't argue that the system they have today isn't far better than what they started with.

The author clearly noted the X1 isn't going to catch the PS4 which is fine. The article isn't about the sales but perception and adapting to move forward.

My opinion is Microsoft is always better in second place and their products thrive when they realize this.

ILostMyMind3486d ago

I think people did not read the news exactly because it was Gamingbolt. I agree that the XBO today is a much better device than the one announced by Microsoft and that Sony seems to ignore everything that users ask for but to elevate XBOX to the recovery level of PS3 is an exaggeration. I do not think Microsodt will be able to recover the image of XBO until the end of this generation, which for Microsoft will be at the end of next year with Scorpio.

SpaceRanger3486d ago

First of all, you need exclusives to even be close to such a comparison lol

Death3486d ago

Sony has plenty of exclusives.

SpaceRanger3486d ago

They definitely do! PS3 had some of the best and most abundant last gen (MGS4 and TLOU just two name my top two in quality).

MS on the other hand...not so much. Halo, Gears and Forza can only do so much for them.

Ricegum3486d ago

Death trolling. Clearly Microsoft need far more exclusives. Don't be blind now.

Death3486d ago

Trolling would be saying either camp doesnt have exclusives...

conanlifts3485d ago

It's obvious that you don't own or play an xbox. They have dozens of great exclusives and heaps of new ips. The problem is you have not paid attention.

SpaceRanger3485d ago

I have one (white Xbox to be exact). And you're either blind or dumb to the fact that MS has reused the same 3 franchises just about every year in a different order. New IPs? You mean the ones that the Xbox fanbase say exist but don't support?

Yeah QB and Recore really make the Xbox stand out in the new IP department. I only have it to play with my best bud who is overseas.

conanlifts3485d ago (Edited 3485d ago )

In response to your reply to me. QB and recore are not the only new ips on the xbox. Titanfall started on the xbox, you missed sunset overdrive, which is excellent btw. In addition what about good games like Ori, Ryse. Plus the other games like dead Rising, killer instinct which are not new ips etc etc.
There are more but i would say you have not been looking based on your comment.
As for being a blind fanboy, well i own pretty much every system ( not bought ps4 pro yet though) so i don't think that. I do tend to use the xbox more though and for me it has done more this gen than ps4, but thats personal preference and i am not trying to convince anyone else which system they should prefer.
All i am really doing is pointing out good games on the platform that are neither Halo, Gears or Forza and replying to what does appear like a fanboy comment.

PhoenixUp3486d ago (Edited 3486d ago )

No it isn't. PS3 ultimately ended receiving the most exclusives throughout the course of the 7th gen. XO continually receives less exclusives than PS4.

Not to mention that unlike XO, PS3 had a great worldwide appeal outside of just North America and U.K.

Most importantly PS3 started selling at a faster pace worldwide than its direct competition in the 360 since day one. XO on the other hand has consistently sold slower worldwide than its direct competition in the PS4 since day one.

lastking953485d ago (Edited 3485d ago )

Ms honestly dont even try in countries outside of US,UK. They price xbox much higher (higher than ps4 even) in some countries, no marketing, release late or not at all. WW ms doesnt try to compete.

UCForce3485d ago

You are wrong. If you thought MS don't want to compete, you are wrong, buddy. Every companies will do anything to catch on their competitors and claim on number 1. That's fact and also mentally fact like you could change your mind and attitude when your favorite publisher could affect your life.

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Final Fantasy X 25th Anniversary Website Launches With New Nomura Artwork and Merchandise

Square Enix launches Final Fantasy X 25th anniversary site, revealing new Nomura art, books, music releases, and merchandise.

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-Foxtrot32d ago

Look I know VIII has its issues and all that but how on earth can the do big anniversary events with new artwork and merchandise for VII, IX and X yet VIII got sweet f*** all.

They could have given it something during its 25th anniversary yet all it got was a single Happy Anniversary post on their social media.

solideagle32d ago

they should know that we are OG fans of VIII as it sold truckload as well. not as much as VII or X. I personally didn't like IX but X and VI are my personal fav.

Shadow Hearts 2 covenant is another game I love. I hope one day someone can make remake, I would be delighted

Relientk7732d ago

Final Fantasy VIII is great and you are always the first to defend it in the comments

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Relientk7737d ago

I remember playing this back in the day on PS2. What a sick game!

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Xbox has always been different.

We started with a simple idea. Games should bring people together through shared experiences. That led to the first Xbox in 2001, Xbox Live in 2002, and new ways to connect, from friends lists and achievements to parties and play across devices. Today, Xbox reaches over 500 million players around the world, with some of the most important franchises in entertainment.

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Outside_ofthe_Box38d ago (Edited 38d ago )

If they go back to exclusive games it at least shows that they are finally getting it. They would be turning down immediate money for something that will potentially workout in the long term.

Only issue is they've already opened Pandora's box. A lot of their base has moved to PC or jumped to PS. So will be a long road to get back on track.

We have been saying this from day one exclusives are a must if you are going to be selling hardware look at Nintendo and Sony before Jim Ryan. That's the proven formula. You had some that were deluded and blinded by loyalty accepting that multiplat was the future and that MS was merely getting ahead of where the industry was headed, but at least they can finally see the light and agree with what everyone has been saying for a decade+

pwnmaster300038d ago

True, blame it on the rabid fanboys. MS can do no wrong and spinner this multiplatform move. While the actual fans moved on.

I feel like with the new Xbox coming they are hoping to bring back those old fans and then if it goes well. Bring back exclusives.

If the new console is performing like series x and one. Naw they staying multiplatform.

darthv7237d ago

Actual fans dont move on... they can add to their hobby while waiting for the next new release. If you believe what you typed then I guess PS fans moved on too.... you know, since its been a Sahara for 1st party games this gen.

S2Killinit37d ago

The fans didn’t tell them to go multilat. MS was forced to after the 82 billion they spent to destroy gaming. Then, while xbox fans cheered, MS realized they can’t justify the price tag by selling through xbox only, so they went multiplat and in the process began to downplay console gaming.

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CrashMania37d ago

I think it's too late, xbox sales were diving even before ABK, they got even worse since then even long before the full multiplatform push. I'd be surprised if they even went back to timed exclusivity at this point, Helix is basically a PC and is going to be expensive, they already struggle to sell cheaper xbox consoles, it will be low volume and they'll have a very small 'console' base to sell to, which has already been conditioned to just play via gamepass anyway.

S2Killinit37d ago

They will do what they always do, they will promise the world at the beginning of next GEN and then failed to deliver all generation long. But there will always be some gamers who will buy into their promises.

ocelot0737d ago

Absolutely agree, Do people genuinely believe Microsoft are now going to go. Hang on how's about we go back to 2020. Then GP was stagnating, Games sold where awful because of GP. Outsold by Playstation by a landslide.

They have sold 5m of Forza I believe on PS5. Spite it being a old game. I think Starfield is going to sell well in the end. Halo is deffinetly going to sell well as is Fable and Forza Horizon 6.

I think at best (for Xbox fans). Single player titles like Clockwork will have a timed exclusivity. Multiplayer centric games like Forza, E Day will release day and date on all platforms.

Or all games will release on all platforms day and date. But maybe Xbox and Windows Store copies will have exclusive bonuses. Or may even get timed exclusive dlc like Fallout and Elder Scrolls and COD use to do.

I think they will treat Xbox players like the premium customers or at least act the way. But will serve just the Playstation and Switch 2 customers as well.

Neonridr37d ago

I don't see them removing PC from the equation. Considering MS has a heavy enough investment in the PC market, it would be foolish to abandon them. I could see them taking away games from PlayStation or ensuring they are timed exclusives at the very least. Say what you will but if Call of Duty ends up becoming a timed exclusive to Xbox machines, that would hurt PlayStation, don't pretend like those games don't sell millions.

Outside_ofthe_Box37d ago

They would lose out on a lot of CoD sales tho. Doesn't PS make up most of the sales?

Neonridr37d ago

@Outside - possibly, but it might push people to want Xbox hardware so they can play with their buddies day one.

Who knows.

S2Killinit37d ago (Edited 37d ago )

it would but remember doing that can splinter the COD fan base and in the process damage the call of duty brand which is probably the only franchise in that $82 billion purchase that in anyway gets even close to delivering what Microsoft thought they bought. If Microsoft fudges around too much with the COD franchise, you might even see a competitor franchise show up on the scene and that would be a catastrophe after the huge debt that Microsoft put itself into with the ABK purchase.

But Its almost guaranteed that Microsoft will want to do something drastic at the beginning of the next generation as they always do. We will see.

Pyrofire9537d ago

Their lifeline of solely the Xbox consoles is dry. Good-Great games on a 1st party scale can't be made at a loss so willingly - sent to the Xbox to only sell limited copies.
They invested billions scooping up studios and need to start making returns.
Sucks that nearly every company is publicly traded and have to be so shareholder biased but that's how it is.
Their words are strong but it'll take time to see what their actions accomplish. Lowering the cost of Game Pass and taking CoD off of it was a good clear start.

darthv7237d ago

More like, allot of their base just played game pass. So now they need to encourage them to start buying again.

S2Killinit37d ago (Edited 37d ago )

A lot of their base left for greener (bluer?) pastures.

--Onilink--37d ago

What exactly is the long term goal with exclusives though?

Because for the most part, the hardware side of things has never been the most profitable, even sometimes being subsidized for a period before breaking even. And that’s before the hardware component nightmare we currently live in.

The whole point of exclusives was to get more people to buy your console in order to have a bigger install base, which meant even bigger software sales.

But if their ports to PS5 are selling (for the most part it seems) quite well, then other than negating the cut Sony takes there, unless you are REALLY increasing your software sales on your own console, it probably doesn’t make that much of a difference?

Honestly I don’t even understand Sony’s decision to scale back on it for PC unless they weren’t even recouping the port expenses. They released ports when the hardware sales never really dropped, and now that all consoles will undoubtedly take a noticeable drop in sales due to the ridiculous prices, that’s when they decide they don’t want to sell to a larger install base to more easily recoup dev costs… it’s just weird

Outside_ofthe_Box37d ago (Edited 37d ago )

I agree. I mean once they went multiplat, in theory there should be no going back especially when you have games that have sold really well on other platforms.

Microsoft are the ones that announced that they are reevaluating. So I'm just guessing on what their end goal is. Right now Xbox as a hardware is not a must buy for anyone but fans of the brand because their games can be played elsewhere. Going exclusive would solve this, but you lose out on a ton of money instantly which has always been what the company does not want to do so not really sure what their "reevaluating exclusives" means unless they are pulling a Phil Spencer and are just saying what people want to hear and will continue to do what they are currently doing.

darthv7237d ago

Their ports to PS5 are selling because Sony's output has been so dry... the fans are thirsty, and MS is the oasis.

SIdepocket37d ago

Unfortunately, the studios they buy wither under their leadership.

mcstorm37d ago

Microsoft still has a name with Xbox the issue is the casual games are not looking at the console because its not the same console their friends have. Look at that poll on how many users upgraded from xbox 365 to one and then the X. Part of Microsoft's downfall was thinking that the Wii was the market they had to be in when really it was the core market. If you get the core gamers you then get the market to. As I posted a few minuets ago on another post Microsoft putting exclusives on PS this gen could bold well if they hit next gen with all our games are staying exclusive from this new gen. They will then get gamers wanting Halo, Forza Gears but this is also where Microsoft fell over with the xbox one and X in terms of they did not have may quality 1st party games affter they fell into the Gears, Forza and Halo cycle. If they can get some old IPs back to bring back the old core gamers as well as fresh ips to bring in new gamers things could improve next gen. But as I said in my last post its all if buts and maybes at the moment. No one knows if the next home consoles will be to expensive that people move to pc as we are now seeing or look at the stem deck as a cheepier alternitive.

DarXyde37d ago

"Only issue is they've already opened Pandora's box."

That's very optimistic. It's not the only issue, far from it. There is a serious rupture between Microsoft generally and the public caused by their weird Game Pass price fluctuations, taking down physical game space in stores, and being the first to go nuts on hardware price hikes that they themselves played a big part in.

They're also charging beyond a premium for Helix which is just vile at a time when the economy is in shambles.

The company itself is really not doing itself any favors with the approach they're taking Windows. Even France is looking to ditch Windows in favor of Linux.

But the most offensive thing is this AI push. They're doubling, tripling, and quadrupling down on the very technology they're using to replace a considerable proportion of their workforce... And the slap in the face is how they bake copilot into everything when nobody likes it—they couldn't even make Bing stick, so why on earth are they trying so hard? You know it's bad when people would rather use ChatGPT than Copilot which is killing their OS. But aside from their snatching up of farmland to build data centers (and reduce the agriculture capacity of whichever country allows them to build them), they made an AI-generated gamer gurl that loves AI the head of Xbox.

Even if we grant them the full benefit of the doubt, it hardly matters what Xbox wants to do if Nadella says no, and that includes exclusive games. Microsoft's relationship with Xbox is the opposite of Sony's relationship with PlayStation—Microsoft pulls the reins of Xbox, but Sony damn near went under for the PS3.

Tanktopmaster9237d ago (Edited 37d ago )

“If they go back to exclusive games it at least shows that they are finally getting it.”

Great strategy, especially after Forza selling 5 million on PlayStation and sea of thieves selling at least another million (2 million) for example. In March 2026, Xbox consoles sales ratio vs PS was 10:1.

In addition to that, with Gamepass, which unequivocally cuts out chunks of sales (Cannibalizing revenue from 1st month sales especially).

I’m sure going exclusive again after releasing everything on Ps5 is going to work out great for business.

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maximusprime_37d ago

Despite all of that, it's clear that Microsoft's Xbox division is broken beyond repair.

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BeHunted37d ago

PlayStation is currently draining money on flop after flop. It's Sony that needs to re-evaluate their strategy

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CrashMania37d ago (Edited 37d ago )

Wonder how much money was lost on perfect dark, hellbalde 2, 300 million lost revenue
by putting cod on gamepass. The recent Jason schrier news that Xbox has cancelled dozens of projects, spent 70 billion just to see Xbox sales further collapse and gamepass see little growth.

The fact is this has been PlayStation's most profitable generation and they are making loads of money and selling plenty of consoles and games. While MS won't give you any sales figures or profit numbers for Xbox, says it all really.

S2Killinit37d ago

Sony PlayStation has deservedly dominated xbox. Facts

Tanktopmaster9237d ago (Edited 37d ago )

Ok tween.

Xbox series SX got outsold 10:1 last month. lol.

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shadowT37d ago

"Our presence on PC isn’t strong enough."

Fishy Fingers37d ago

It isnt. But I dont think they mean in 'games', rather, footprint.

They own the OS but as far as gaming is concerned, Steam dominate. I imagine the VAST majority of people who use the Xbox app/launcher are PC gamepass subs. No ones buying their 3rd party PC games through Xbox PC.

badz14937d ago

and many gamers prefer SteamOS for gaming over Windows too. If only Valve would be more uncompromising to the anti-cheat makers that locked out non-windows players, more pc gamers would have moved onto SteamOS by now and not looking back to Windows. overall, Win11 is a terrible, bloated, unoptimized OS which is not what many people want

ocelot0737d ago

Agreed and I think that's where they are going to focus on more. I think cheaper games on Windows/Xbox store (MS IP) compared to Steam and Epic and maybe even compared to PSN store as well.

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