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“We distance ourselfes from what Guru said on @LiquidTLO's stream. We don't share his opinions and he is not part of the team anymore.”

2pacalypsenow3473d ago

I wonder if he would of said I hate Christians, they would have done the same thing?

Eliseo6763472d ago

He should have called us Mexicans rapists.

That would have made him President of Poland.

This speech police is out of hand.

KosherNostra3472d ago

Speaking from Poland, we've already got a delusional right-wing bigot in charge, thanks.

_-EDMIX-_3472d ago

Not necessarily.

at the end of the day his sponsors still have a reputation to uphold and if they don't really believe in those actions, they're clearly going to drop him and they have all the right to.

He's free to say those things , he's just not free to say them while still be being part of that sponsor.

ger23963472d ago

Aren't there mexican rapists that are here illegally?

Maxor3472d ago

If you're naturalized or native born rapists it would be ok. Illegal rapists on other hand should be deported and be forced to play games at 15 FPS for the rest of their lives.

2pacalypsenow3472d ago (Edited 3472d ago )

Do you have a source where it shows Trump actually saying word for word " All illegal Mexicans are Rapists" Because i'm sure he said that Mexico brings the united states criminals rapists and some good people.

Morgue3472d ago

@ger2396

Pretty sure there are some rapists from the U.S. on the lam in Mexico. Also quite certain there's some rapists at your local church, mini mart or your next door neighbor.

SpringHeeledJack3472d ago

Islam is not a race. It's a religion and particularly nasty one that abused women and animals. You don't change your race if you become a Muslim, no racism here.

Angeljuice3471d ago

Inciting hatred should never be allowed this whole "nobody is racist it's all just political correctness gone mad" has to stop.

If you are racist, be loud and proud about it and see how it feels to be an outcast.

Stop being an apologist for low-life scumbags, you'll just be tarred with the same brush (unless the cap fits of course).

McGamer3471d ago (Edited 3471d ago )

Speech police? Seriously? It's called, don't discriminate, period.

It's about time the gaming community get it together and accept that intolerance is not acceptable in any reality.

Rimeskeem3471d ago

It's a lot like Kaepernick. He holds the freedom of speech but can lose sponsors and his job by doing it.

S2Killinit3471d ago (Edited 3471d ago )

@Springheeledjack
Sooo hitler wasnt racist then? So stupid.

"Particularly nasty religion"? Really? This is what happens when the educational system fails.

"Abuses animals"? Can you please explain? I guess facts dont matter anymore.

PS: he said he hates "muslims" not "islam" and either way its hate speech and so is the nonesense spewing out of your mouth.

annoyedgamer3471d ago

@Kosher

Delusional? More like smart. He wont allow his country and culture be overrun by foreign invaders at the hands of globalist bankers.

yeahokwhatever3471d ago

some mexicans are rapists. whats your point exactly?

indyman77773471d ago

@ger2396 arent there also white rapist that are here illegally? No hypocrisy please!

indysurfn3471d ago

he doesnt just say illegal Mexcans..... He just says Mexican! And he is NOT SORRY ABOUT IT HERE IS A FOLLOW UP:

http://www.cnn.com/videos/t...

Many more on youtube!

mikeslemonade3471d ago (Edited 3471d ago )

They wrong for banning him. Grow a spine. Stop getting hung up on words, It's 2016.

And if you religious in the first place I question your intelligence. Yes I went there.

Kenshin_BATT0USAI3471d ago

Not exactly. I think it's fine if he thinks what he said, problem is vocalizing it while representing his sponsers and team makes everyone else look bad. Bad PR is bad PR.

mikeslemonade3471d ago

Yep as someone said I hate all religions.

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TheFirstClassic3472d ago

It's more acceptable to hate Christians for some reason.

S2Killinit3472d ago (Edited 3471d ago )

Because you are surrounded by christians.

I'll give you a hypo. Tell me which is more offensive to you?

Scenario 1: you go to a party where everyone is christian and someone says "I hate christians"

Scenario 2: you go to a party where youre the only christian and someone says "I hate christians"

Does that solve your dilemma? They are both ugly, but one is uglier.

Anyway Im glad he got banned because its becoming mainstream to hate again and we gotta stop it, we've been there before,

Articuno763472d ago (Edited 3472d ago )

'More acceptable' and 'acceptable' are two different things. But putting that aside, I can provide the reason (two and a half actually):

1) Consider the relative power of Christians and positions Christians occupy and the actual effectiveness of anyone able to hurt them versus those of considerably smaller and less powerful religious communities. It's really hard for hatred of Christians in a culture that is predominantly Christian to result in anything other than Christians being slightly annoyed. That's hardly a big deal.

Now, I will grant you that Christian hatred is a very, VERY real problem that deserves serious recognition in countries where blasphemy laws and intolerance can get you heavily discriminated, if not killed for being openly Christian. But the US (and pretty much any westernised nation) are not among those places.

2) There's a big difference between hating people for what they choose to believe and who they are (over which they have no control). Unlike Christianity which is largely ubiquitous, Judaism and Islam are tied to recognisable races that allow people to 'other' them (i.e. discriminate in a way that can lead to some really scary shit because they are considered lesser people).

People have rightly pointed out that 'muslim' isn't a race. This is true, but that doesn't stop people from thinking of them as 'people of these sorts of races', essentially lumping them into one large group of 'other race' to discriminate against. People don't discriminate against someone after asking them what religion they are, they discriminate against them because they have determined that they look muslim (whatever that may mean) and have made that decision based vague racial profiling.

To some of the comments below the fact that discrimination against muslims happens along racial lines is why it is treated as a race issue rather than as a purely idealogical one.

I'll also point out here that criticism of Islam is not the same thing as criticism of the people who follow it -- and unfortunately the media has a huge stick up its ass about letting people criticise Islam (which totally should be okay) -- though they got that way because criticising the tennets of Islam is often used as an indirect means to legitimise attacking 'others' not for their beliefs, but for who they are (looking like they likely of a group of certain beliefs).

2.5 Adding to the above, Christians are essentially invisible. There's no established 'Christian'-look meaning the only way a Christian can be identified and attacked is for openly extolling their beliefs. i.e. that automatically makes it clash of ideologies... and that's something civilised western nations are supposed to be okay with. It's not cause for alarm.

To summarise: Christians are attacked for what they believe, not who they are. And because it is their beliefs being attacked and criticised (not them as people) most 'discriminations' happen against their beliefs (which tends to just take the form of discourse) rather than against them as people (which tends to take the form of flying fists).

Edit: To the people disagreeing, on what point and why do you disagree? What perspective are you bringing to the table? Are you looking at things as a Christian who has been discriminated against? As a muslim?

Rimeskeem3471d ago

The Crusades werent exactly the best part of history...

Silly Mammo3471d ago (Edited 3471d ago )

What if I hate all religions?

morganfell3471d ago

Being able to hate should be mainstream. It is called free thought.

On the other hand, acting on your hate is quite another thing and should be crushed swiftly and decisively. But these thought police running wild flashing their snowflake badges are a far greater threat than my saying "I hate you."

While the sponsors and the team have every right to fire him to protect their investments, trying to disallow thought, even if it is something with which you disagree, is draconic at best and far more dangerous than hate.

Then again, nobody expects a Spanish Inquisition...

yeahokwhatever3471d ago

its simple. christians arent going around chucking gays off buildings. whats not to hate about that? or...wait..what?

Goldby3471d ago

@Articuno76

Can u run for POTUS plz

S2Killinit3471d ago

You are confusing a religion with a bunch of religious extremists. Just because a group of them are doing something terrible doesnt mean the whole religion or all of its members are bad. If that was the case then let me tell you Christianity's hands arent so clean either.

The point is, you cant disrespect people for their religion because of the acts of the few.

TheFirstClassic3471d ago

Hating on people never actually causes them to change their views. But people would rather put others down than engage in actual discussion. Its unproductive, but people tend to feel self-righteous in their assholery so it feeds into their ego.

wsoutlaw873471d ago

Where is all this made up christian hate? Be serious

Geekman3471d ago

Probably because Christianity has been the basis behind multiple other hateful movements that have persecuted and taken the lives of many people who are not Christian or do not follow Christian beliefs.

But they don't sing about that stuff in Church.

DragonKnight3471d ago

Lol, look at all the justification going on here. It's ok to hate Christians because of reasons, it's not ok to hate Muslims because they are a minority? HAHAHA!

These justifications are what isolationism and nationalism are winning in the world. You refuse to be honest about Islam while calling anyone who disagrees racist Islamophobes and you wonder why there is a massive backlash happening with policy.

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deafdani3472d ago (Edited 3472d ago )

Who knows. But while I understand what you mean, it's not Christians that are currently facing a very adverse position of xenophobia facilitated by the President-elect of the most powerful country in the world.

Context matters.

Phunkydiabetic13472d ago

Context doesn't matter. If people are going to pull the racist card then it should apply across the board, not just to people facing xenophobia or whatever arbitrary line you have created.

2pacalypsenow3472d ago

Right because Christian's are not being persecuted and executed for being Christian's in some parts of the world.

Mega_Volnutt3472d ago

Christians or Muslims is not a race.

S2Killinit3472d ago

@Phunky & 2pacalypse
Really? Context doesnt matter?? Soooo if they are burning a cross in your front porch is the same as if you are amongst friends and one of them says "I hate _____"??

Please stop playing cod games and go read a book.

saywat2473471d ago

dont speak the truth these people hiding in the closet with their discrimanatory and racist views dont wanna hear it. they have balls now that trump is president.

yeahokwhatever3471d ago

christians didnt blow up the world trade center, blow up people in boston, attack france, rape germany, or kill 50 homosexuals in a nighclub in order to follow their religion's current beliefs. context DOES matter.

Dirtnapstor3471d ago

@2pacalypsenow
I detect sarcasm right? Because you are dead on. The mere fact of being a Christian in a few very specific areas of the world equals a death sentence, no questions asked.

Silly Mammo3471d ago (Edited 3471d ago )

@yeahokwhatever and dirtnapstor- Christians in other parts of the world do heinous things to other religions all the time. Or when you refer to Christians you only mean US Christians?

Just google Christians and Central Africa for examples.

http://www.reuters.com/arti...

CaptainObvious8783471d ago

Sigh... Trump isn't racist.

If you're going to just swallow whatever the established media spoon feeds you I'm not sure if there's any point having a dialogue with you.

deafdani3471d ago (Edited 3471d ago )

@CaptainObvious: I didn't say anything about racism, I said xenophobia. Which I think Trump is.

And yes, he's also racist as well. Along with mysogynist and homophobe.

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dantesparda3472d ago

So in other words, you two are pro people saying this sh't. if it would bothers you had he said "Christians" instead of Muslims then this should bother you to, but it doesnt seem to cuz you're a typical hypocrite.

And to the other guy (Eliseo). You shouldnt just be able to go around saying whatever the "f" you want without there being some consequences to it. When something wrong is said, it should carry some consequences with it. Im sick and tired of people thinking they can say whatever, sick, vulgar, hateful sh't they want and its ok. Everything people say and do carrys consequences with it. And ESport has every right to separate themselves from this if they dont like it either.

And to anyone thinking that im a Muslim and thats why i care. Im not, Im a staunch atheist. I just cant stand bigotry.

_-EDMIX-_3472d ago

Agreed.

If his sponsors don't want this, they are correct the drop him and it is his own fault for spewing hate regardless of who it was towards.

gangsta_red3472d ago

"if it would bothers you had he said "Christians" instead of Muslims then this should bother you to,"

Exactly, I'll never understand this way of thinking. The whole "what if he/she said ____ instead of ___!" as if any alternative would be any less of an ignorant and stupid statement.

2pacalypsenow3472d ago (Edited 3472d ago )

No it just seems pathetic that when someone says something bad about Muslims every one looses their shit, but when its about Christians, its "oh god is not real get over it." Not saying I don't agree with what happened to him or that either one is worse than the other, but its been proven that stuff like this happens and people seem to look the other way because "We don't want to offend other people" since America is mostly a Christian Country.

JackBNimble3471d ago

I'm a proud atheist as well ... I grew up in an extreme Christian home,and from years of personal experience I can say , and I truely believe this... "All religion breeds intolerance , hatred , and WAR " .

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SoulMikeY3472d ago

They would not have. It's all bias.

And to other comments, do you know that Muslim isn't a race?

MadMax3472d ago

They would've done nothing if he said he hated whites or christians! That's just a fact.

Christopher3471d ago

How can it be a fact if it's not proven to be true? That's called a hypothesis.

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ReDeviL163471d ago

Yes they will do the same but Thanks god he didn't say that he hate Jews cuz he would be in jail now =)

Heavenly King3471d ago (Edited 3471d ago )

I wonder the same too.

annoyedgamer3471d ago

More likely would have gotten an invite to the White House. No worries, starting in January this BS ends.

yeahokwhatever3471d ago

if an atheist said that about christians he would have been CELEBRATED. they are on a regular basis.

joab7773471d ago

Nope. Ya never woulda heard about it. Or it would have been a joke or something.

Dirtnapstor3471d ago

If he had said "Christians", this would not be news. Unfortunately, that rhetoric is deemed to be acceptable by the mainstream.

wsoutlaw873471d ago

Christian ARE mainstream. What are you even talking about

isa_scout3471d ago

I wonder the same thing. This writer calls it a racist remark when Muslims aren't a race rather a Muslim is someone that follows Islamic teachings. People are too sensitive. I'm a practicing Jehovahs Witness, but if someone said they hate Jehovahs Witnesses( which happens quite often) I'd be like," Ight" and move on.This is what happens when everyone has to be so politically correct. No one can be an individual you must conform to societys view points, or be labelled a racist for saying something completely unrelated to race. Ali was an African-American Muslim. Being Muslim didn't stop him from being an African-American.

wsoutlaw873471d ago

Your argument isn't very coherent. No one said it had to be about race. Hating a religion is still hate and a sponsor has the right to not promote hate. All your bs about conforming or ali doesn't even apply here

wsoutlaw873471d ago (Edited 3469d ago )

Stop the christian persecution complex. Its just sad.

What an argument there rob. You didn't even respond to what i said here. You are clearly over emotional about this to think rationally. You are confusing people and governments with religion. I could say nazi germany was a christian country. Also look into the Central African Republic. What research have you done exactly? Also nice job picking a time period. You want to believe people who follow what ever your religious leader tells you, are some how better than those that follow another leader, and its not true. People are people no matter what book their parents raised them to follow. Try meeting other people and not judging because you are clearly disillusioned. Or just keep buying into the Christian persecution complex and calling others dumb like a good Christian.

LastCenturyRob3470d ago

wsoutlaw87...Show everyone where Christians in the past I don't know, two , three hundred years has beheaded anyone...I'm not talking about a not job or two, but as church policy such as Islam does hundreds if not thousands of times every year, globally, year after year after year!..Seriously, do the freaking research before you post ! Why is that so hard for you? Your posts just make you sound...dumb...that's the only word I can think of!!!

LastCenturyRob3471d ago

Not in the liberal west! Liberals hate Christians but love Islam...where Islam will take away their personal freedoms when their numbers grow large enough...as they always do everywhere it spreads throughout history.

wsoutlaw873471d ago (Edited 3469d ago )

When their numbers grow large enough? What nonsense are you talking about. Most Americans and "librals" ARE christians. Where are all these oppressions on christians? If you think christians are treated similarly to muslims in this country, you aren't paying attention to reality.

Edit
Damn man, do you know how countries became Christian? It was forced on the public. You like to act like you are responding to me with out responding. Your silly comment said when their numbers grow large enough. What number is that exactly. You think a small number of countries are islam and thats just foolish. Syria and afganistan are not islam. Please answer for your dumb comment that said librals hate Christians. 83% of the US is christian genius. Do your own research.

LastCenturyRob3470d ago

@wsoutlaw87... Nonsense? What are you talking about? Just look at the history of Islam and how it spread. Seriously, look at Turkey and Pakistan as examples..Both majority Muslim countries after WW1 for sure, but they did have much larger populations of other religions...but now almost 100% Islam. Those millions of Christians and Jews did not leave on their own..they were forced out, forced to convert, or murdered..Do research before yo make assumptions. Unfortunately, and it is unfortunate, Islam as a whole is very violent "when/if" it is allowed to become a majority anywhere. Just because it is not happening right away in the US does not mean that won't be the case 60 or 70 years down the road. Again, research before you comment.

Auron3471d ago

Nope, because Christians dont chop your head off! True Christians shouldn't take offense to hate... its nothing new to them the Bible says over and over you will be hated for my sake and to turn the other cheek.
The other guys tho.......well i don't need to say anymore.

wsoutlaw873471d ago

Plenty of cristians beheaded people. Dont be stupid. Isis is not islam.

Livecustoms3471d ago

I would hope so, saying you 'hate' someone over their beliefs, culture etc is disgusting all round tbh.

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Tetsujin3472d ago (Edited 3472d ago )

Had he lived in the US, Fox News would have blown this up into a Freedom of speech/religion/expression argument which will spin the negativity to the team itself.

Situations like this I want to make 2 apps: Common Sense, and respect. Maybe then people will use them.

Regardless of who you love/hate, gamers need to respect other gamers. You can't compete in esports and be racist, that's the biggest stupid move which will end your career, hobby, and even friendships.

Utalkin2me3472d ago

Well the problem is, i think we handle it the wrong. PC for instance comes to mind. If we wouldn't make such a big deal out of these type of comments, then it wouldn't be a big deal. Kind of like you tell a kid not to do something, what do they do? The media and journalist is what makes this a big deal and snowballs the "PC" even larger.

We as a country have become very soft due to this type of nature of "PC". Throw a blanket on the american society and try to get them to shush. And this hurts worse then it helps. Just hindering people in trying to censor their different perspectives, viewpoints, feelings, and life experiences.

Basically freedom of speech is being took away from citizens that should have a right to speak it. You dont have to agree with it or listen to it. But you should agree everyone has a right to speak it.

And far as respect, respect is not automatically given. It has to be earned.

KosherNostra3472d ago

What do you mean "respect is not automatically given. It has to be earned"? That's ridiculous. You either give someone your trust or your respect, or you don't. If you wait for them to "earn it", then what, you disrespect them until they do?

_-EDMIX-_3472d ago (Edited 3472d ago )

"And far as respect, respect is not automatically given. It has to be earned."

No.

In the context of this situation I do not believe by default people should be disrespecting people because they haven't earned their respect , that doesn't even make any sense.

In my opinion by default people need to respect other people's views , beliefs etc someone shouldn't have to run some sort of Gauntlet to prove to you that they are worthy of your respect ,you should be respecting their belief regardless. I don't think any demographic owes you anything for you to respect their existence.

You don't need to like it, you don't even need to agree with it , but I believe you should be respecting what other people believe.

And do not blame the messengers, nobody forced this kid to make a hateful comment..

The audacity to blame everyone other than the person making the comment is hilarious and absurd.

Freedom of speech is not being taken away from anyone , he is free to make those comments....at home, with no sponsor. To make this clear nobody put this man in jail for saying that.

He does have the right to speak it and the same respect he has the right to accept the backlash that he's going to get from it , you can't sit there an advicate free speech and then get upset when people are using that same free speech to blast this person.

So you're advocating free speech but you're upset of the media doing the very same thing? So you're upset that people are making a big deal out of what this person stated but you're also saying that free speech is ok? Did you not get that the irony of the people were talking about this are still advocating free speech? Lol

So essentially it's okay that this person says something disrespectful to a demographic but it's not okay when the media what'd you say?

"makes this a big deal and snowballs the "PC" even larger"

So what would your solution to the media be? Stop talking about it? So they should stop advocating their own free speech? OHHHH ok.

Lol

So what you're saying is don't make a big deal out of hateful comments towards specific demographics, so basically be silent? But you're also advocating free speech? I think it's hilarious that you don't even see the irony in your post.

Just to make it clear he's completely free to say what he say just like everybody else is completely free to bash him for making hateful comments.

You cannot champion for a free voice by advocating for silence elsewhere...

Ashlen3472d ago (Edited 3472d ago )

I know, right?

It's the same with crime and murder. If we stop making a big deal out of murder people will stop killing each other. It's all the medias fault crime exists. Before print existed no one ever committed any crimes or killed people. If police would just stop trying to enforce laws people would stop breaking them.

Articuno763472d ago

"And far as respect, respect is not automatically given. It has to be earned."

Tetsujin is talking about respect in the form of displaying common decency and extending cordiality to another person, rather than 'respect' as a sort of awed, adoration.

Unfortunately the English language doesn't have separate words for these quite different concepts.

Dirtnapstor3471d ago

I agree, PCness is detrimental to any society. Freedom to speak your mind is a luxury, but at the same time, it has its responsibilities. Some people just need to keep their mouth shut because essentially nonsense spills from their lips. And because there are too many sheeple, that nonsense can initiate and/or facilitate real problems.

@Ashlen
???
What are you, like 9 or something?

wsoutlaw873471d ago

No one took anyone's freedom of spech. Not tolerating hate isn't "pc", its called being a decent human being. People that use "pc" are people who would like to get away with being more racist. No one is silencing him. The fool is still free to speak. His sponsor has the right to use their free speach to drop him. Words have consequences

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Thatguy-3103472d ago (Edited 3472d ago )

I'll never understand the need to say negative remarks about others. I understand that everyone is free to like and dislike what they want but just keep it to yourself. All that negative energy serves no purpose. Respect is something so simple that people shouldn't have a hard time seeing it's importance.

zen_hydra3472d ago (Edited 3472d ago )

Haven't you been paying attention? Half the American voting populace openly embraces bigotry. Now minority CITIZENS are in fear for their lives. Hate groups are so emboldened that there have been pretty much nonstop instances of violence perpetrated against our own CITIZENRY since the election. Calls for peace, love, common sense, and understanding are nothing but pointless platitudes. You don't stop fascists with hugs.

crazyboom3471d ago (Edited 3471d ago )

American citizens do not need to fear for their lives as Trump is a president not a king, Please stop being so over dramatic and spreading fear. If you want peace and freedom them be peaceful and free, after all this is America.

wsoutlaw873471d ago

Crazyboom. You are very much underestimating all trump could do with out congressional approval. He is now commander in chief.

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opinionated3472d ago (Edited 3472d ago )

Oh boohoo... So saying you hate something is literally "hate speech" now? You pathetic babies. I hate all religions, eat dick. "Racism" against the Muslim and catholic race!

UCForce3472d ago (Edited 3472d ago )

"Pathetic babies " really ? With that overuse mocking ?

Edit : Well, I think you are too strong with no remorse,no shame and no guilt. And you said you have Muslims friends. Muslims is religious and they are still people.

Edit#2 : You feeling great to hate someone, that's fine. But that's just make you look like idiot. I don't like insults people even they are deserve to be or not, i won't do it.

opinionated3472d ago (Edited 3472d ago )

Absolutely. The triggering derserves to be mocked.

Maybe he was referring to sharia law, the Islamic governing system that should have died a thousand years ago. Muslims are not a race, this outrage is hilarious to me. I hate Oreos, is that hate speech? My apologies..

Edit: I do have Muslim friends. I still hate Islam and they know it. They don't need padded walls and a bodyguard to feel safe and secure about their beliefs. They also don't live under sharia law, it's their choice.

Edit 2: you insult me all of the time force lmao. And I'm totally fine with that.

Razzer3472d ago (Edited 3472d ago )

UCForce, this guy isn't worth the effort.

wsoutlaw873471d ago

Every idiot who watches fox news or reads some fake news sites talks about sharia law. Its a good sign you have know clue what you are talking about; but hey, why should that stop you. Sharia law is not islam.

mezati993472d ago

Let me ask you this, does hating on certain race/religion on the internet somehow make you feel good or superior?

fucking pathetic

opinionated3472d ago

i didn't hate on any race you moron. Yes I feel great hating on religion.

dantesparda3472d ago

You sound mature. And dont respond back to me with any "boo hooing", because you didnt like (read:speech) what i said. Otherwise it makes you a hypocrite.

opinionated3472d ago (Edited 3472d ago )

mature is clearly mass complaining about 3 words until said person gets fired 😂

@corndog below
I get offended all of the time and I can admit it lol. Mostly by people who get offended at the dumbest shit. The difference between me being offended and them being offended is that they think they deserve some compensation for the piece of soul they just lost lol.

Them: "He said he hates Muslims! I demand action and reparations!l

Me: "hahahaha you pussy!"

@septic below
I would laugh in your face if I saw you crying about that dumb shit. There is nothing "brave" about laughing at someone. Don't try to project your "toughness" on me. The fuck are you going to do?

CorndogBurglar3472d ago

I'm missing your point then. You just said you agreed with me that people are too easily offended.

Yet you gave me a disagree for saying it. Lol.

People are too easily offended in this day and age. You can't even say Merry Christmas anymore. It has to be Happy Holidays or else people get offended. Thats not even hateful. Thats the kind of thing I'm referring to. Kids in grade school all get trophies now and no one loses in games so as not to make them feel left out. Its insanity.

But the point I was making was from a business standpoint. When people are that easily offended, as a business, you have to cater to it. Otherwise hou risk losing business.

I don't think anything I said was hypocrital in the least bit, and I certainly never said I never get offended by anything. EVERYONE gets offended by things at times. Even Mr. Edgy OPINIONATED, whether he wants to admit it or not.

Its how much it takes to offend people nowadays that os a bit out of hand.

Gazondaily3472d ago

"Me: "hahahaha you pussy!"

So brave...behind your pc...

deafdani3472d ago

If said something happens to be a person that practices a religion, then yes, it's hate speech.

opinionated3472d ago

False. "hate speech" is a bogus term to begin with, ever changing with your shifting values. If so you are practicing hate speech when you trash christians for opposing abortion and such.

dantesparda3472d ago (Edited 3472d ago )

Saying you disagree with opposing abortion is not the same thing as saying you hate christians. Seriously, dude, stop talking, you're just making yourself sound dumber and dumber with each new comment you make. Im just trying to help you not look dumber.

And p.s. hate speech is real not bogus like you bogusly (yes, I know, not a real word) claimed.

CorndogBurglar3472d ago

You're missing the point.

True eSports is a company. A business.

When businesses do things like this, and distance themselves from crap like this, its so they don't come across as condoning what was said. Its so they don't upset any groups of people and potentially lose customers.

Who knows what the people at True eSports truly think? They could be the biggest racists and religion haters in the world. But they don't want to lose any business.

Look at what happened with Hulk Hogan when he was recorded making a racist comment. WWE basically erased him from their history.

All I'm saying is that in this day and age, people are way too easily offended. Its unfortunate, but its how the world works now. And if you are a business owner, the quickest way to go out of business is to let people that represent your company make hateful comments about any group of people.

dantesparda3472d ago (Edited 3470d ago )

I was with you all the way til the end when you said that people are to easily offended, which dont get me wrong, i think is true, but just comes of as hypocritical when said on a site where everybody is sensitive over things said about companies and video games and Im quite sure that you're being "easily offended" by alot of things said on this site (or any video game site for that matter).

opinionated3472d ago

@Dante
Yes because that's all they say. "I kindly oppose abortion sir". You ignorant twat lol. You get the government to force them into submission but 3 words will bend the back of any imbecile. Hate speech is some fake shit, especially in this instance. Segregated speech is a laughable joke, especially coming from the "equality crowd" lol.

@corndog
I'm not missing the point. I know he's a representative and I fully respect the companies right to can him. Why did they can him though? Dumb articles and opinions like this. Mass outrage by special snowflakes who got their bubble busted.

_-EDMIX-_3472d ago

"All I'm saying is that in this day and age, people are way too easily offended."

When haven't they been offended? You say this day and age as in there's a time period where people were just complacent with being disrespected..

Was that a better time period?

Do not blame the people who are being offended blame the people who are creating the offense in the first place.

I'm curious on what's the best way to accept being disrespected...

Some people could quietly, silently accept being sheep and offended all they want , but please don't equate that to some sort of strength , if anything it is a weakness.

I'm sorry but that's a race to see who's the best lap dog that I don't want to join.

If someone is offended by something and they stand up against it, I don't see them as "oversensitive" I see them as having courage and conviction to not accept hate or discrimination.

The real Freedom Fighters that really fought for equality were getting beaten ,shot and killed by the police and taking bricks to the face during marches, they were seeking nothing more than trying to pass legislation to not have such hate speech and to have real equality.

I'm sorry but that takes real Courage, the weakness in the easy way out, is to say nothing quietly like some docile sheep...

You can either stand up and voice that it's wrong to correct it or you could lay down and accept oppression quietly.

I'm sorry but I think you clearly know which is the easy way out.

UCForce3472d ago (Edited 3471d ago )

Then you are hurting your friends. That's just low.

Edit : @Liqu1d is right about you, Opinionated.

opinionated3472d ago

My Muslim friends couldn't care less lol. They don't want to live in sharia law either, they are american Muslims.

_-EDMIX-_3472d ago

"So saying you hate something is literally "hate speech" now? "

When has it not been? Do you seriously not know the definition?

opinionated3472d ago (Edited 3472d ago )

Some things are counted some are not. Is jumping a trump supporter a hate crime? Is forcing a Christian to go against their beliefs by law like funding abortion and such a hate crime? There is no solid definition, it's whatever you want it mean like "social justice" or the magical 14th amendment where the "equality clause" means anything you want it to mean disregarding its history. It's a Leftist tool of false interpretation, a means to an end. They literally nullify the rest of the constitution based on their dumb interpretations.

_-EDMIX-_3472d ago

Lolz

Stopped reading at

opinionated10m ago(Edited 5m ago)...

opinionated3472d ago (Edited 3471d ago )

Because you know I'm right lmao. Hate speech is a tool for the totalitarian specialty groups and balkanized "communities" to bully their opinion into common culture.

You should also be ashamed comparing these spineless turds to the real civil rights activists in our history. No comparison whatsoever lol

_-EDMIX-_3471d ago

@Opin-I find zero reason to find rationality in that in which is irrational by nature.

dantesparda3470d ago (Edited 3470d ago )

@Opinionated

"Hate speech is a tool for the totalitarian specialty groups and balkanized "communities" to bully their opinion into common culture."

Says the guy who is obviously pro Trump, oh the irony! Look, Im done trying to explain anything to you, you're obviously not smart enough to get it. You're to full of hate cuz you're obviously a angry little twart that thinks that the garbage you think/believe is true. Sorry kid, but it dont work that way.

Now go get excited over some more Trump hate speech. We'll see what it takes the country.

And p.s. being pro-choice doesnt force abortion on anybody, just gives them the right to choose whereas anti-abortion is what forces people, like it or not. Pro-Life my a$$, cuz pro-lifers are all for the death penalty, war and arming everybody with guns. Yee Haw! Bang! bang! bang!

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TKCMuzzer3471d ago (Edited 3471d ago )

Remember guys, it's not necessary peoples opinions that causes problems and issues but the way those opinions are expressed that ultimately lead to confrontations and retaliation.

Liqu1d3471d ago

Just shut up.

Hating religion is one thing, hating everyone who follows a specific religion is another. I dislike all religion but that does not mean I dislike everyone who is religious. There is a lot of good people who are religious, if you think discrimination is fine then then you are a really sad individual.

Kenshin_BATT0USAI3471d ago (Edited 3471d ago )

It's fine if he hates them, but he has sponsors and a team. Your words and actions can negatively affect those things.

Think of it this way, if I am giving you money to represent me and my brand and you say something that completely destroys that, I'm gonna be pissed. That's why this guy is an idiot.

Imalwaysright3471d ago

Muslims ARE people, islam is the religion so he is talking about people like you or me. Call it hate speech or not, I couldn't care less but what he said is based on pre-conceived ideas and generalizations just like anyone that says I hate black people or I hate women. It's all based on destructive ignorance.

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GrimmyReaper3472d ago (Edited 3472d ago )

I'm not saying that is smart to express hate towards a group of people that follows a certain religion, but this article is just retarded. You can't claim someone saying "I hate moslims" a racist because that implies that you think moslims are a race when they are not.

I also find it hilarious that now we also label this certain person apparently worse than Hitler, considering the CONFIRMED terrorist strikes BY MOSLIMS. I'm not saying generalization of a certain group that follows a certain religion is good, but I can hardly blame someone for thinking like that when we see more bad than good coming from this group and as a result, that makes you no better than this guy, labeling anyone that is against moslims, a racist.

Seriously, get over yourself. Some guy loses his gaming career because he openly admitted that he hates moslims? Did he ever say he would kill them? Has he had a record of shooting them? Did he imply to do that in the near future? No? Then what the fuck is the problem?

Yi-Long3472d ago

Replace the word 'Muslims' with the word 'Jews', or 'Gays', or 'Women', and perhaps you'd understand why him being kicked off the team was justified. It's a severe lack of respect towards a certain community, and if you're going to behave in such a disrespectful and immature manner towards whole groups of people, that reflects very poorly on the organisation you work for, and the people you work with, so it's not all that surprising that they kicked him out.

Goldby3472d ago

phew. almost didnt catch that mic you dropped

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Goldby3472d ago

@opinionated,

Technically that is racism.

i can laugh that off as a really... really bad attempt at a joke though.

Ryuujinjakka3471d ago

@Corndog, what you're saying is not true. They are peaceful as long as you respect THEIR rules. So stop spreading lies please.

Benschachar3471d ago

"Jews", "Gays", and "Women" aren't taught from birth that if they murder people who aren't of their group they'll go to paradise when they die. They aren't taught people outside their group are "the worst of people's" that they shouldn't make friends with people outside their group or to treat a women who doesn't wear a hijab or a burkha like they're asking to be raped. They don't encourage or condone the taking of sex slaves or the treatment of people outside of their group as second class citizens taxed to support them.
Islam as a theology does all those things. When muslims immigrate to a non muslim society they bring two things: anti-Semitic violence and rape. Sweden was one of the safest countries in Europe now it is rape capital of Europe and the vast majority of those rapes are done by the muslim immigrants even though said immigrants are only 10% of their population.

yeahokwhatever3471d ago

he can be kicked off the team for any reason. i dont think people are arguing against that. mainly people arguing over the virtue signaling and claims of racism.

Noskypeno3471d ago

But its cool to disrespect straight white men, especially by a protected species. Females are always beating up guys and physically,mentally and economically raping men and the media will never ever say "bitch culture" like they do with "rape culture" with frat boys when its easy to disprove the so called rape culture. Getting drunk doesn't turn the yes into no, especially if you still look wide awake, plus if the frat boy is drunk, why can't he claim rape. I hope Brock Turner sues the system and become mega successful just to make a statement.

Also can anybody explain the difference between what Ronda Rousey and Hope Solo did and what Ray Rice and Greg Hardy did, because two of them are somehow being ignored the media and didn't have to be suspended in their careers.

GrimmyReaper3471d ago

I never even talked about the team that kicked him out. What offends them is none of my business

I'm actually talking about the person who made this article, as if to say "serves him right"

I'm not condoning anyone to be an asshole on the internet, but that the cost of freedom of speech. Anyone should be able to say what they want, even if it does make them an asshole.

I'd still not care if this guy said "I hate all Gays or Women". Then you can actually label him as a homofobe or sexist. But does that not give him the right to say that?

Again, I'm not arguing the fact that the team kicked him out. My annoyance goes out to the author who thinks that just because someone is a dipshit online, should get whatever is coming to him.

I'm not surprised he got kicked out, because he was stupid enough to just outright say it like that. I even said something along these lines in my first comment where you shouldn't generalize a group because of a few individuals. But again, I also can't fault the guy for thinking like that either.

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CorndogBurglar3472d ago

Well the majority of Muslims are peaceful and just want to live their lives. You don't hear about them because they aren't causing trouble. Its the zealots and extremists that interpret the religion a certain way that are causing problems. And believe it or not, they are the minority.

You can't condemn a whole group of people because of the actions of a few.

SpringHeeledJack3471d ago

Just because they are not attacking people doesn't mean they are peaceful. They torture animals with halal meat. And treat women as second class citizens. Muhammad was a paedophile and said himself victory through terror while slaughtering Jewish tribes. Horrible religion and history.

DragonDDark3471d ago

"Torture animals with halal meat"

?????
That doesn't make any sense

yeahokwhatever3471d ago (Edited 3470d ago )

https://www.youtube.com/wat... just watch the video. all of it. The guy who shot up the PP was a leftist. Imagine my surprise.

ameliabaz3471d ago

I hhate to break it to you, but our "humane" way of killing animals for meat isn't much better. Shoving animals into a truck to stand for hours on end in the freezing cold or scorching heat, followed by a bolt to the head thay doesn't aleays instantly kill....I lovemeat as much asthe next meat-eater, but let's not pretend our meat industry is completely cruelty free.

MrBrofist3471d ago

I find it funny how people forget that extremists exist in all religious/political groups and not just the group you don't like or understand.

The guy who shot up a planed parenthood building a few years back was Christian ....

Adrian_v013470d ago

@springheeledjack

I am not sure you read the Bible ever in your life if you condone Muslims for having the Quran as their holy book. The history of Christianity is just as horrible, if not worse. Inquisition says hello.

Goldby3468d ago

@Adrian

totally agree, but most Christians would say the bible is to be read in context, not literally, but all assume the exact same message from the bible that is to be taken contextually should be read word for word in the Qu'ran.

Both are holy books to their followers, both speak of peace between nations, only difference is we choose not to read the Qu'ran with the same eyes as those who read the bible. Crusade is another prime example, Killing non believers of Christ in the name of God. nearly 2 million dead because Christian's wouldn't allow others to believe in another religion.

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CorndogBurglar3472d ago

Also, if you ever become a business owner watch how long you stay in business if someone that publicly represents your company spouts off hate against a group of people.

Mikelarry3472d ago

you only see more bad than good because the media tends to show the bad acts of muslim. there are hate groups in every religion.

and he lost his career because he had a platform which he could use to spread his hate speech and make others who may not be of sound mind think the same way.

it really baffles me why there is so much hate in this world... but i digress

Articuno763471d ago (Edited 3471d ago )

"Then what the fuck is the problem?"

There's a reason many have laws against hate speech, even though it alone doesn't hurt anyone directly: To prevent people from being put in danger by the perceived legitimisation of hate crime. From what I gather he didn't say he hated Islam, he said he hated muslims: that's a very different thing.

Notice how after both Trump's victory and Brexit that the US/UK saw a surge in racist incidents even though those votes weren't necessarily about race? Now imagine what happens when the issue is about race (and I've explained in a comment above why anti-muslim sentiment is a race issue) and an organisation gives tacit approval to it.

Also, you might want to know you are spelling 'muslim' like you are in the 1800s, which just seems a tad strange.

GrimmyReaper3471d ago

Again, you can't call someone a racist because they hate muslims. That makes no sense. Racists are people that find their own race superior over another. It's literally in the word.

And this is the problem with 2016. Many people are so sensitive to words that something like this flips their shit. I'm not saying anyone should go and do hate speech, but preventing it then comes at the cost of freedom of speech.

If someone is an asshole online (and we all know that NEVER happens, right?), then just ignore them. My problem is how this author reacted to it and wants to let everyone know what a moron he was, even when he just lost his income. I don't care what his team did with him, that's for them to figure out, but the guy who made this article just saw an easy target to make an article of.

Freedom of Speech comes at a cost that people can be assholes. I'm not condoning anyone to act like one, but I'd always put Freedom of Speech first. If someone says 'Kill all Jews", I'd not get inherently upset because I know he'd get what's coming to him soon enough.

If someone dislikes a group and publicly says that, then they will more likely then not get flamed for that. But when we see what a small minority of muslims have done the last year, I don't blame anyone that thinks that way. When those attacks hit in Belgium, people started to avoid anyone that looked closely like a muslim. Judgmental? Maybe, but again. With those attacks, I can't blame them. You don't just hate someone just like that. There are usually reasons (whether good or bad) that someone hates someone else.

The guy is still a moron for coming out to say this, because people take offense to that, because rest assured. He's not the only one online who hates muslims. Others are just smart enough to not say that.

Adrian_v013470d ago

Your opinion is based on the fact that you share the same opinion as the gamer that wrote this comment.

Basically you're saying it's okay to think bad about all Muslims and be judgmental based on the actions of a few, but I'm sure you would call bullshit on black people having 'white guilt' opinions and being wary of all white people.

Kenshin_BATT0USAI3471d ago (Edited 3471d ago )

Look man the issue comes down to sponsorship.

If I wanted you to advertise Tide, and you said 'screw x people' and they stop buying Tide, I'm gonna drop you like a bad habit. That's how it goes.

To comment on your later post, it does serve the dude right. Because that's bad business. You have to look approachable.

wsoutlaw873471d ago

You are so ignorant it isn't even funny. "We see more bad than good" there are 1.6 billion muslims. Muslim people are the ones fighting on the ground to stop isis right now.

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Dixiedevil3472d ago

How could someone hate the muslim religion? They've done so much to endear themselves to the world over the last few years.

Liqu1d3471d ago

Hating Islam is not the same as hating Muslims. One is a religion the other is everyone who follows that religion.

Gazondaily3471d ago

""How could someone hate the muslim religion? They've done so much to endear themselves to the world over the last few years."

You clearly can't tell the difference between a religion and it's followers. Letc alone distinguish the acts of a minority from that of a majority.

People like you throwing blanket labels around just goes to show how limited your social interaction is with them. Perhaps if you actually stepped out and engaged with them. But that would be too much to ask I guess.

Let your ignorance breed hate. In that ignorance, you are closer in mindset to the extreme minority of these people than the majority of Muslims themselves are to them.

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