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Hands On: PS4 Pro Is a Big, Beautiful Step Forward

Push Square: "As we predicted a few months back, Sony's had a right job on its hands this holiday. Its two latest products – PlayStation VR and the PlayStation 4 Pro – are difficult to sell, because they need to be seen first-hand in order to be truly appreciated. We spent the best part of a year waxing lyrical about the power of virtual reality, and it's only in the past few weeks that people have started to realise that we were right. Sony's supercharged console doesn't innovate in quite the same way, but it still delivers a big and beautiful step forward that needs to be seen to be believed."

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ninsigma3495d ago

Some really good things to be said in this hands on. I agree I'm bored of the 4K/checkerboard arguments as well. The games will still be 4K albeit not natively but will still look bloody amazing. It's such a shame that its true potential can't be shown to us over the internet. I can't wait for mine to arrive on Thursday :D

SmielmaN3494d ago

Can't wait for mine either ninsigma. VR, supercharged PS4 Pro, elite PS4 controller. It's PlayStation enthusiast Nirvana.

ShowanW3494d ago

Best Buy is giving PS4 & 4Pro buyers a free copy of Sausage Party on Bluay or 4K Bluray... I suggest taking the 4K bluray copy of the movie since 4K blurays also come with standard blurays (and digital codes) as well...

ninsigma3494d ago

Not from the US and have mine ordered and paid with gamestop. Thanks for the heads up though. I'd say others will be interested to know :)

SirCharles3494d ago

If it isn't native than it isn't 4k

XanderZane3494d ago

That's pretty much what everyone said when XB1 games were upscaled to 1080P and looked great as well. QB used checkerboard process to upscale that game and it looked pretty incredible.

miyamoto3495d ago (Edited 3494d ago )

This is why Sony PlayStation is the undisputed leader and visionary of the video games industry.

Edit:
Sony PlayStation pushes both video game hardware and software content to progress together in harmony.

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kstuffs3495d ago

Yup visionary of the future by using 2.1 GHz Jaguar CPUs.

gamerswin243495d ago

And stepping forward and creating the only console vr that is competent, engrossing an really works. Even their PC counterparts are paying attention to how good the psvr is given its limited hardware. True innovators.

GTgamer3495d ago

It's not about what they use its about the results :)

Errorist763495d ago

Definitely more visionary than the competitor selling a three times slower console with a 1.75 Jaguar CPU for 50 dollars less....

Starman693495d ago

Its about balance and balance pal.... Consoles are kush.

Muzikguy3494d ago

Well I'd say to that they sure know how to use that CPU! Had they used a beefier one, we'd hear people complain about the price increase. I feel like Sony did the best job out of all their consoles this generation.

URNightmare3494d ago (Edited 3494d ago )

You got OWNED by gamerswin24! Sit down and be quiet, kid!!

Markusb333494d ago

I take it your talking from experience of playing the pro and not from reading a spec sheet ? As that would just be silly.

breakdancefight3494d ago (Edited 3494d ago )

Sony was an undisputed leader going into the PS3 generation and everyone had already written off MS with their oddly named 360.
Sony introduced the PS3 as a boutique electronics device that would power our lives,but would have to have a second job to afford. Sony and Kutaragi-sans decision to build that product nearly bankrupted the company.
We had an extended lifecycle do to an ailing games market and the AMD SoC was the only that either company would be able to even make a next get console.
Like the X1 S and the Scorpio coming soon this is an effort to remedy some of the current gen hardware issues without alienating or splitting the development community and fan base by releasing two vastly different systems.
Jaguar is here to stay until PS5 coming in 2018/2019.

Edito3494d ago

Vision has nothing to do with power.

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JayPi33495d ago

This is shilling a little too hard for my taste, I respect Playstation, hell I love the PS4 and I STILL regularly buy Vita games and happily paid for memory cards, but calling Playstation the "Undisputed leader and visionary" is a little much imo. If making a more powerful console is what you need to be a visionary then that's not saying much imo.

When it came to VR I would say Nintendo was probably first with the Virtual Boy way back when, and then Oculus Rift bringing it back for the modern age.

When it came to motion controls like the Move, once again Nintendo brought it back into the mainstream even though it was mostly a gimmick, Sony copied it a bit, and MS tried to expand on it but ultimately failed.

As excited as I am for prettier graphics with 4K and Pro and more stable frames with PRO I feel like there will never be a true "leader" or "visionary" in the gaming industry and should there ever be it would take more than just stronger specs to earn the title.

The closest thing i would say is a visionary is Nintendo, each of their consoles bring something new to the table, sure it's gimmicy but it's something innovative.

If being powerful and being able to push out higher resolutions and graphics makes a company leaders or visionaries then wouldn't that make the graphic card makers the ones who are the leaders?

Maybe by console's standards this is revolutionary or something but I don't get people gushing over everything Playstation does these days, I understand the love of the exclusives and the popularity but geez.

gamerswin243495d ago (Edited 3494d ago )

Lol in no capacity was virtual boy actually virtual reality so try again. Sony are innovating on the vr front on consoles. You can try to take that away from them but your going to fail (Sega had a prototype unit years ago but it never made it to market because they just couldnt get it to work right) Sony are the first console makers to bring true vr into the market, Nintendo does not get credit for that with that terrible bs that was virtual boy and it wasn't virtual reality lol oculus creator and many other professionals all over agree as much, virtual boy was not vr, only in name.

As for oculus and psvr, sony has been doing vr almost as long (based off records oculus was working on it a few months before on PC ahead of sony who were doing it for consoles wow!! Lol). Add to that that creating a competent and immersive vr solution on a closed, limited hardware console as opposed to a PC (which is open and is more powerful) is a great feat in itself and very different, more challenging. Sony deserves all the kudos it gets, sorry try again. They are innovating on the console vr front.

Not for nothing and you say you own sony products blah blah blah but you sound very ignorant and like your trolling. Sony more than anyone lately are innovating in hardware, as well as software.

Funny I see you praising Nintendo so much lol I bet u think the switch is revolutionary right? Lol but PSP go already did on the go gaming with a TV dock for at home gaming. Your agenda seems pretty thick. Remote play has been also an innovative feature on Sony consoles for years lol but of course you come with the Nintendo stuff lol priceless.

Oh just saw your comment history! Your definitely a Nintendo fanboy lol trying to pass yourself off as a neutral gamer hahaha wow.

miyamoto3494d ago (Edited 3494d ago )

A good leader thinks out of the box.
Do you think Nintendo or Microsoft can be assed to think or do something like this????
Nintendo is too stingy (underpowered-overpriced) and MS is too dumb (more money-less brains) too pull off something like a PS4 Pro.

FamilyGuy3494d ago (Edited 3494d ago )

I think the PS4s Share Play feature makes Sony's console "visionary"
I think Sony's Live streaming of cable tv service, PS Vue, was "visionary"
I think Remote Play was "visionary"
I think Sony's Vr headsets comfortable design was "visionary"
I think the PS+ service offering games was "visionary"
I think "Game Sharing" was "visionary"

These were all great, useful, consumer friendly ideas that went beyond pushing graphical fidelity.
I try not to "gush over everything Playstation" and innovative ideas have come from all these console makers but give credit where it's due.

Sony/Playstation isn't a cult, they have actually released products and services worthy of some support.

Irishguy953494d ago (Edited 3494d ago )

I love the MS hate, when MS standardized online gaming services for consoles. Remember was PS online used to be like? Playing catch up with MS for XBL is what got it so good today.(even though both are still rip offs).

In short, sometimes Sony are innovative, sometimes MS are, MOST of the time, some other company somewhere else is innovative, Sony and MS seize the oppertunity and COPY. They take there own little variations.

In this Case, Occulus pushed the VR standard to a high bar for MS and SONY to follow. MS partnered with Occculus. Sony went their own route and pushed the envelope even further with PS VR. Good for them.

However, who deserves the real credit? Occulus of course. Please don't take the credit from them for their success on VR, even if they have been a bit outdone by Sony's innovations on Occulus offering.

VR is where its at today because Occulus rift tried to make it that way. Console online gaming services, are where they are at today because MS pushed XBL(For better or worse, including the cost per year, but also the quality), Sony played catch up with both MS and Occulus and won(imo). But still, its like..giving credit to a manufacturer when some research team are the ones who actually enabled the manufacturor in the first place.

Please stop acting like Sony did it all themselves. They really didn't. What they did do was copy their competitors, and then innovate further on the copies. In this case at least.

What Sony deserve credit for is coming in with Ps1 and Ps2 and ****ing dominating everyone, introducing disk based storage for games and providing a wide array of quality games in different genres from Ps1-Ps4(the only company in gaming to do so). PS+ was nice too, last gen. Now its essentially the same as XBL gold. Take a step back and look at what each company has introduced to gaming. Now what products are on the market. Innovation and a quality product are not the same. Sony provide quality, but rarely innovate. Which is fine. Innovation is a stepping stone to a quality product. But in the end, all I want is to play a quality game for an affordable price.

1nsomniac3494d ago

@JayPi3 there is an immense amount of Sony homoerotic behaviour on N4G. Makes me very uncomfortable what people would do or say for an unaffiliated company that they think they have some sort of deep rooted connection with.

miyamoto3494d ago (Edited 3494d ago )

Sony PlayStation is that rising tide that lifted many boats.
Sony PlayStation pushes both video game hardware and software content to progress together in perfect harmony.

The Sony PlayStation is the leader because of it's well rounded progressive forward thinking vision and efficient and economical approach to a well balanced hardware and software video gaming product.
Ken Kutaragi's vision of bringing digital entertainment to both young and adult still hold's true to this day.

The Nintendo S-SMP is the audio processing unit of the Super Nintendo Entertainment System (SNES) video game console.
Technical Details
The S-SMP audio processing unit consists of an 8-bit SPC700, a 16-bit DSP, 64 kB of SRAM shared by the two chips, and a 64 byte boot ROM. The audio subsystem is almost completely independent from the rest of the system: it is clocked at a nominal 24.576 MHz in both NTSC and PAL systems, and can only communicate with the CPU via 4 registers on Bus B. It was designed by Ken Kutaragi and was manufactured by Sony.

In the late 1980s, he was watching his daughter play a Famicom and realized the potential that existed within video games. At that particular time, Sony's executives had very little interest in video games. Thus, when Nintendo expressed the need for a wave-table sound chip for its upcoming new 16-bit system, Kutaragi immediately accepted. Working in secret, he designed and built the chip, the SPC700. When they found out, Sony's executives were furious. Only with Sony CEO Norio Ohga's help was Kutaragi able to push the project to completion and keep his job.
Nintendo owes Sony big time.

Sony (and Philips) invented the Compact Disc (CD-ROM) technology and made it's way to video game consoles and push the industry forward to an unprecedented industrial revolution while Nintendo held back to cartridges (but later on succumbed to it too).

Sony's CD-ROM defined a video game generation.

The CD-ROM Children:
0–9
3DO Interactive Multiplayer
A
Amiga CD32
Apple Bandai Pippin
Atari Jaguar CD
C
Philips CD-i
F
FM Towns Marty
H
HyperScan
N
Neo Geo CD
P
Panasonic M2
PC-FX
Playdia
PlayStation (console)
S
Sega CD
Sega Saturn
Super NES CD-ROM
T
TurboDuo
TurboGrafx-16

The PlayStation was the first console to sell over 100 million systems worldwide and made video games a legitimate form of adult entertainment worldwide. Something Nintendo can never do.

Sony has been developing the PS Move tech long before Nintendo copied Hillcrest Labs technology with the Wii Remote.
Sony's Wand on the PS2
https://www.youtube.com/wat...

Hillcrest Labs: Nintendo's Wii Infringing Our Patents
https://gigaom.com/2008/08/...

I can go on and on ....

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susanto12283495d ago

A big step forward? Not according to the specs..sorry

ninsigma3495d ago

According to actual hands on, you're wrong :)

SquidBuck3495d ago

You know a gtx 1080 can't do native 4k at 60fps, and that card is 700+. In terms of consoles, this is a big step up.

kstuffs3495d ago (Edited 3495d ago )

2.1 GHz Jaguar is not a big step up. They went for resolution but forgot the brain.

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PrinterMan3495d ago

A GTX 1080 can do native 4K at 60 fps. I know, I have one.

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jonivtec3495d ago (Edited 3495d ago )

Jalous guy...my gtx 1070 do native 4k with some settings dropped but still highly better you will ever get on your ps4 pro.Come on 3 years console cycle get ridiculous.Buy if you want but pc is becoming the real revelant choice if you want visual fidelity.

DJ3495d ago (Edited 3495d ago )

Kstuffs, my work PC is 2.3 Ghz, but because it's 16 cores it's a 3D beast.. 8 jaguar cores is damn good for a $400 console

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TKCMuzzer3495d ago

It depends what your looking at. Higher res, or better VR games, better streaming options, higher quality sharing options, better 1080p options, better Wi-Fi and first party studios to utilize it. Of course as I said, if your a numbers guy (which to many so called gamers are), then maybe not for you. For the price, there is a valid argument his statement is correct.

Thatguy-3103495d ago (Edited 3495d ago )

As far as I remember it's the most powerful console out in the market.

Utalkin2me3495d ago

@susanto1228

I would say being 2 times stronger then the strongest console already A.K.A the PS4, for just a mere 100 dollars more is a great leap forward.

Aceman183495d ago

You frigging people are becoming so GD boring its doing somethig pretty good and you yall do is just constantly bring this negative crap here.

Both sides need to let this crap go. I'll probably get the Pro before the end of the year.

trooper_3495d ago

And what do you know about the specs? So basically the positive reviews are wrong?

snoopgg3495d ago

Most powerful console out there right now, they have no competition and are playing second to nobody. Sony has done well this generation. This will only allow them to do better with ps5. Their console specs are the best on the market right now.

Hardiman3495d ago

I would argue that what they are doing with said specs and the tech is what is revolutionary but to each their own.

Yohshida3495d ago

According to this sony site it is lol

Dark_Knightmare23495d ago

Yeah let's just ignore digital foundry,ign etc plus all the positive experiences from people who got the pro early. Seriously don't be a hater dude its petty and sad.

Silly gameAr3495d ago

If this is a Sony site, then why are people like you here? This is a site for gamers, just so happens that some people are in love with their brand of toys more than others, and try to crap on others that aren't.

raWfodog3495d ago

Article is clearly referring to actual, final visual results and you're concerned about 'specs'?

So, in your opinion, if any system somehow produced some of the best graphics or visuals that you have seen to-date, you would think less of it because the internal components weren't as good as you thought they should be?

miyamoto3495d ago

It's not the size but how you use it.

Markusb333494d ago

So based on a bit of paper you can judge results of visuals and performance ! Wow you must have a good job being do intelligent. So from a reciept list of ingredients can you tell me what a dish will taste and smell like before its cooked ? What a talent you have.

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Bolts3495d ago

The biggest problem with the Pro isn't the specs. It's how it's being held back by the PS4 peasants. We will never know it's true potential as it's being relegated to being nothing more than an upscaling and better textures machine.

ClayRules20123495d ago (Edited 3495d ago )

I don't mean any disrespect to at all, please understand that.

Having said that, why're you saying it's being held back by the "PS4 peasants" Do you expect Sony to just drop support to the 40 million gamers who currently own the standard PS4?

@Ju
I believe in being respectful to people as much as possible, even if that "said" person doesn't deserve it. I ry & get my point across or ask a question with kindness in hopes that a person will take a moment to think about how they acted & apologize or at least try to better themselves/learn something. I really try to not lower myself to that persons level of disrespect/ignorance.

Just speaking from the heart.

Ju3495d ago

Why are you worried about being respectful, when Bolts basically disrespected the entire PS4 gamer community?

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trooper_3495d ago

The positive news must be heart breaking.

GTgamer3495d ago (Edited 3495d ago )

Ps4 peasants? pleaseeee don't start that Bs

Maxor3495d ago

LOL PS4 peasants. It starts. I think in beginning both consoles will co-exists but it's only a matter of time until the Pro will break the shackles of it's lesser sibling. Which brings up an interesting comparison with the Skorp. Perhaps the main difference between the Pro and the Scorpio isn't the 4 TF vs 6 TF but the policies. If MS allows for true Scorpio exclusives and features then the gap between the two will be further apart.

HallowedSoul13495d ago

Just will further prove the scorpio is ms attempt at slickly abandoning another gen like the original xbox. Please explain to me how ms introduces a new console that is 4.55 times better than the original xbox one plus it will possibly allow true exclusives and it's somehow still considered a mid gen upgrade. Nobody should be praising ms for abandoning another gen early because they are losing to sony again. I'm sorry but no matter what with scorpio exclusives or not 4.55 times tflops is just way too much to be called a mid gen upgrade. That's like nvidia coming out with 1080ti that's 4 times better than the 1080 and saying it's still in same graphics family not even the Titan x Pascal is 4 times better. It's crazy how ms fans aren't noticing the scorpio is so far ahead specs wise its clearly next gen.

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Elda3495d ago

Good to be one than an XBO.

KwietStorm_BLM3495d ago

"We will never know it's true potential as it's being relegated to being nothing more than an upscaling and better textures machine."

As opposed to what? It's an upgraded PS4. That is exactly what it is. It's not PlayStation 5. It's not a new generation, obviously being only 3 years in. Realistically, both PS4 and Xbox One are weak, and the Pro and Scorpio are what we should have gotten in the first place, but you like another typical internet goer, poking the hornets nest, if your argument is the "PS4 peasants" are somehow holding back it's potential. Who do you think designed the system?

colonel1793495d ago

The only way Sony would start making PS4 Pro Only games, is if the majority of people who already owns a PS4, switch to a PS4 Pro. However, that's would be really hard to measure.

nitus103495d ago

Sony would know how many PS4's as well as their variants including the PS4pro they have sold. I am quite sure that even if most of the PS4 sales going forward are the PS4pro you would still have over 40 million potential customers that use the old PS4 that you as a developer would be stupid to ignore.

iceman063495d ago

Well, in all honesty, that is the idea behind a mid-gen. upgrade. You don't want a quantum leap because that would alienate over 40 million people. So you go for just enough shine and polish to entice the core to want to upgrade, while keeping in spitting distance with existing hardware. Anything else wouldn't be a mid-gen upgrade. It'd pretty much be a new console.

nitus103495d ago

What an idiotic statement. This is no more different than what the so call PC elitists blab on about and who are a sheer embarrassment to the genuine high-end PC gamer, especially those who can design and build their own systems.

Got the money well you to can play games in 8K, not that low-resolution 4K. https://www.youtube.com/wat... (LinusTechTips).

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Hardiman3495d ago

Lets see what I have on hand....4k 65 inch HDR tv check, games that have been patched to take advantage of the Pro's abilities check, eagerness to play said games check, now all I need is the Pro. Thursday can't get here fast enough. I just wished folks could see how good 4K and HDR look in motion. You just can't appreciate it until you see it in person.

ClayRules20123495d ago (Edited 3495d ago )

No need to reply to my reply on a previous article, in which I was curious about if you had a 4K HDR capable tv. I got my answer reading this comment, lol.

I'm really curious to see the difference in many of these games. Especially Horizon:Zero Dawn & Days Gone. Both already looked gorgeous from the E3 demos shown on the standard PS4.

Hardiman3494d ago

I'm sorry I didn't see the comment or I would have let you know. Everything I've heard about the Pro has me excited but yeah the Samsung KS8000 is a great tv.

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Markusb333494d ago

Come on now that would just be logical. Everyone on here can tell you just from reading specs ps pro is shit. Why would you need to try something in person when morons on the internet think watching 4k hdr footage is ok to watch on a hd tv.

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Microsoft Gaming Revenue Drops 7% Year-on-Year, Content and Services Down 5%, Xbox Hardware Down 33%

Microsoft announced its financial results for Q3 of fiscal year 2026, including an update on its gaming Xbox business and more.

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Jin_Sakai33d ago (Edited 33d ago )

Not looking good. Hopefully Asha Sharma is able to turn Phil’s disaster around.

dveio32d ago

To me it's still quite remarkable how they can cash-in 5.3bn in revenue in a single quarter, since their hardware is basically dead.

Jingsing32d ago

The stock mark is what makes Microsoft remarkable, They have convinced every institutional and retail investor to just keep piling money into them. Like many big tech giants they are just a big growing pyramid scheme. As long as people keep dropping money into ETF's that cover the market Microsoft will always be liquid. At the same time it is completely stifling innovation and competition. People need to start being more discreet in how they invest their money as it's killing the system.

Tanktopmaster9232d ago

Once they re-evaluate exclusive all will be fine….

S2Killinit32d ago

Riiiiight because people will just flock back to them for one or two games per year.

Jingsing32d ago

15+ years of bad performance is what they call irreparable in business. It is time for them to sell off the assets and get out of entertainment.

Tanktopmaster9232d ago

These declines are on the back of extra revenue received from releasing games like Forza horizon 5 on PlayStation. So I’m being sarcastic here when I said they should go back to exclusives. Killing off a revenue stream from Ps5 sales will only make things worse

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Steam Controller (2026) review

Second time's the charm.

cl198333d ago (Edited 33d ago )

Seams like a nice controller

Reaper22_33d ago

Two analog sticks acrossvftom each other is a no go.When will everyone learn.

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Forefront VR Review - Battlefield Comes to VR — and it Actually Works | Terminal Gamer

TG writes: If you’ve ever wanted that chaotic, large-scale modern warfare feeling from Battlefield but in full VR immersion, Forefront delivers it better than anything else currently available on Quest.

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