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Nintendo Switch Dock is not the main console

Because there was some confusion regarding the operation of Nintendo Switch, the Japanese company said that the Dock, the device that connects to your TV, will not be the main processing unit of the console.

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Neonridr3502d ago (Edited 3502d ago )

"The dock is not the main console unit of Nintendo Switch. The main unit of Nintendo Switch is the unit that has the LCD screen, which the two Joy-Con controllers can be attached to and detached from. The Nintendo Switch Dock has been created so that it is extremely easy to seamlessly switch from playing games on a TV to transition into a portable mode,”

while they emphasize that it's not the main console unit, that doesn't necessarily mean it can't contain some additional supplemental power to give the games a little more oomph while on the big screen.

eagle213502d ago

I would think it housed at least a hard drive.....

Cindy-rella3501d ago (Edited 3501d ago )

This thing isnt going to be powerful enough to where third party developers will want to port games that will be on the xbox one and the ps4. That wont be good at all because i can foresee a lot of game droughts like the wii u.

Nintendo needs to put all the information bout the nes switch out there so people know now. I was really excited about the switch at first but now im not very interested in it because of Nintendos secrecy. The nes switch is basically a handheld that can be hooked up to the television. I thought the switches docking station would make it as powerful as a ps4 which launched three years ago so comparable spec parts wont be expensive. With specifications comparable to a ps4 the switch ould be able to support all third party games. Knowing Nintendo i know this handheld wont be powerful enough so a lot of third party ont make games for it. There are a lot of development studios Nintendo says will support the switch but i remember he same for the wii and the wii u.

bouzebbal3501d ago (Edited 3501d ago )

The screen must be the main console if you need to take it out

EddieNX 3501d ago

Cindyrella. The Swith can run anything that's on PS4 or Xbox one, for example it runs UE4.

zeal0us3501d ago

If so from the looks of it you won't be able to swap it out like the PS4. Hopefully won't go the SD slot again.

WOLFofWALLSTREET3501d ago

@cindyrella
I was actually thinking that's going to have tons of games just like the 3ds. I'm seeing this more as a 3ds then a Wii U success story. Nintendo owns portable and that's always been there thing.

vallencer3501d ago

@Cindy

Pretty sure it's going to be as powerful as the ps4 and xone. Considering we will have 2 sets of xones and ps4s companies are making games with both in mind the switch will be there too.

joeorc3501d ago

@Cindy-rella12m ago
[This thing isnt going to be powerful enough to where third party developers will want to port games that will be on the xbox one and the ps4. That wont be good at all because i can foresee a lot of game droughts like the wii u.]

I see what you are saying and while I would agree with that assessment, there is one caveat about exactly where Nintendo is targeting developer & publisher pool that does indeed make sure what you are pointing out does not end up that way.
The reason why is unlike many years in the past mobile processing power watt/ performance indexing was in single core single step processing power no real dble precision , no real in-depth particular ability to deliver particle physics, Lighting, in-depth AI, Graphics in order of Something like a living room console could.

SmartChip Soc's with companies like AMD , Intel, Nvidia , Arm Holdings designs..etc has changed mobile computing landscapes now..reason why is today's chipsets in mobile Smart devices are Quite a bit more robust able to handle the full game engines & APi's of their more powerful brethren, but still have enough computing power to perform now even HD graphics, HDR lighting, Advanced AI, physics , High Polly count's.. Yes they may not be as high in complete raw computing power but in performance / watt they are more than viable enough for the games console market.

These Tegra x1 & x2 processors are not just a mobile Quad core processor, they now contain compute clustering on the die. Directx12 or Vulkan Graphics API , that's the full API can be used on such chips now..if you think which pool of developers it's targeting it's set out to gather Smartphone, Tablet , Smart TV publishers and developers and due to such prolific expansion of iOS & Android OS Nintendo's Switch is targeting those Developers and publishers for games..that also means pretty much all the big mobile developer teams those big publishers has..example Rockstar Game's has ported GTA : San Andreas over to iOS & Android OS yes it's a older game , but think about these new mobile chips could handle GTA 4 & 5 so it would not be a stretch to see it as getting such a port.

nveenio3501d ago

It's pretty clear that the screen houses all of the processing. And it's disappointing that it's using tablet/mobile graphics technology, because even though it will be compatible with UE4, the fidelity simply won't be there, and few big-name devs use UE4 to begin with. I'm afraid Nintendo has created another first-party console, which is fine, but will contribute to game droughts.

kneon3501d ago

A hard drive on the dock would just complicate things. You would actively have to manage what's on the hard drive and what's on the main unit so that you can play what you want when away from the dock.

The only use for a harddrive would be for media storage.

deafdani3501d ago

That wouldn't make sense, because then you couldn't take the games and content you downloaded on the go, which would be completely against what the Switch is going for.

I'm pretty sure hard drives are out of the equation for this console. The logical storage solution is SD cards.

bow2yoda3501d ago

first and foremost. nintendo has never used a hard drive. the consoles will most likely have integraged flash storage. with expandable storage to something like an sd card or external usb hard drive. and on that same note, the screen has also not been confirmed as the main console yet. there may be one more unit that wasnt pictured during the reel. Nintendo does this every time, they save parts for more reveals down the line.

CarlosX3603501d ago

It doesn't look like there'll be a hard drive. Look at the unit, damnit. It looks pretty small. Even if that thing is a prototype, I doubt it'll have a hard drive. Nintendo usually doesn't install hard drives. I think it'll be like Wii or Wii U where chips are used as a hard drive.

Or the cartridges will act as a "save point" as it was before the industry went Disc. The most that I think it'll happen is a chip that act as a firmware update storage, or patch update storage.

pcz3501d ago

its a door stop. when you leave the house with the switch, it keeps the door open

fr0sty3501d ago

@joeorc

GTA4&5 are last gen games, that's the problem. This system is going to be somewhere between PS3 and Xbox One in power as far as what the games are capable of doing. Just because the system can run an engine that runs on next gen consoles like UE4 does not mean that it can handle it at the same fidelity. UE4 also runs on mobile devices, it just doesn't look anywhere near as good while doing so. Some more processor intensive games that really max out XO and PS4 just won't be possible on a handheld without serious compromises. There's a lot of "next gen" stuff this system just won't be able to do.

The main thing Nintendo has going for it is, it can abandon promoting it as a console and stick to promoting it as a handheld if the console end fails like I think it will (it's just a repeat of Wii U, a weak system that developers are going to ignore after 2 years), as Nintendo has always ruled the handheld market. However, if the 3 hour handheld battery life rumor holds up to be true, this thing is doomed to fail no matter what.

DanteVFenris6663501d ago

Did you use a wiiu? It was only 32 gbs. Even 4 times that is easy to do on a tablet now a days

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stuna13501d ago

By definition of the word main it's telling you that the LCD screen houses the power.

_-EDMIX-_3501d ago

Then why not say that right then and there considering they're already talking about it? This is exactly like what I stated before the rumors and the leaks that I read very much stated that the device was a handheld that could out to the TV, I read nothing from specific leaks that talked about the dock providing any additional power in fact the only things that I read stated it just allows it to play on the TV they could have used a cord but clearly a docking station makes more sense.

I'm sorry folks but in layman's terms this is very much just a handheld that can play on the TV having a docking station as opposed to a cord doesn't change that, because I do not see people writing articles about the PSP 2000 or 3000 suddenly being a console....

Neonridr3499d ago

well why wouldn't they just say that the only processing power is from the handheld? Why would they say the "main" console then? Makes no sense. Seems like they are just either being cryptic, or reinforcing the fact that there might be something inside the dock to help bump the resolution a bit.

I am not saying it's 100% certain either way, but you can't rule out the possiblity EDMIX.

_-EDMIX-_3499d ago

I'm sorry Neo but it just seems a bit far-fetched especially considering it wasn't even noticeable during the trailer that anything was even happening and like I stated before it wouldn't even make any sense for Nintendo to not tell us about a feature their goal is to market the damn thing staying silent is not going to get them more sales , so I'm not sure why they would leave such a thing out all the major features that this thing does clearly are already known and I see Zero reason to hide such a thing.

The Lakes already told us about what this was going to be in those leaks also stated that the docking station was simply just that it's station to dock the device to add it to the television and Nintendo is now confirming the very same things but there's no point because if the leaks are clearly correct then all the other day though they were telling us is also correct and one of those things was that the docking station was not providing any substantial jump in resolution or anything like that.

Also never mind the terminology they're using it's almost as if you're oblivious to that this company is marketing please don't drink the Kool-Aid they could call it main console all day but at the end of the day that they're talking about is the thing with the screen....ie the portable, calling it console doesn't change what it is the person was playing the device in the park, it is a portable what they're calling it is actually irrelevant to the docking situation by the way.

If Sony called the PSP Go and PSP a "console" do you seriously think that somehow changes something? I'm not entirely sure why Gamers all of a sudden are unable to use their own brains when a company start marketing something, all the podcast I've been listening to have been referring this to a handheld because everything they've been talking about in regards to battery life and portability has been in regards to exactly what it is , not what the company is trying to desperately pass it off as , you still have a brain and you still have free will.

Use them. Nintendo is not going to call this a handheld back out to a television despite in layman's terms that's exactly what is happening they don't want to call it that for very obvious marketing reasons and I don't blame them because handheld sounds lesser it does not sound powerful it does not sound like something both markets will be into but if they call it a console and also have the ability for it to be portable they Garner attention from both install basis without making each other feel left out it.

has everything to do with intended business purposes and what they intend to Market this as it has very little to do in actuality what is technically still being done what you see happening with this is literally no different than what was happening with the PSP Go and PSP 2000 and 3000 but clearly Sony was not marketing it as a console because they are the number one console producers in the world , there was no reason for them to spin their handhelds in such a way there is a reason right now for Nintendo to and I don't blame them.

zombiewombie3501d ago

I read an article where a Nintendo rep said the dock just served as a charging station and to connect it to your TV. Which was a let down.

_-EDMIX-_3501d ago

Well the leaks sort of made it pretty clear that the dock was merely to out to the television for the handheld.

All in all I think it's an interesting portable to be able to quickly add it to the television to see what's on your handheld in Greater detail is really interesting sort of like how the PSP Go and PSP 2000 did.

NapalmSanctuary3501d ago

Or they're nerfing the power while its undocked to control heat and power usage for the sake of battery life. Seems reasonable to me.

rainslacker3501d ago

I have a feeling, despite the patents Nintendo has for such a technique, that the dock is just a dock/charging station. They will likely want to target a price point that will help the system sell and gain adoption.

I would guess that the idea of co-processing through additional units will come in the future with the portable system remaining the same, and them releasing a "mid-gen" upgrade through the dock for the home console counterpart.

Could actually help them keep up with this new idea of a fast changing console market, which never really hit the handheld market in the same way, as people have different needs for handhelds.

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2pacalypsenow3502d ago

Looks like the Switch is just the Shield 2

eagle213502d ago

No, it's a Nintendo Switch. Way better.

subtenko3501d ago

no...its the shield 2.....

Neonridr3502d ago

yeah except better and with real games.

moegooner883501d ago (Edited 3501d ago )

The more and more I hear about this console, the less intrigued I become. No wonder they didn't reveal all info at launch.

FinalomegaS3501d ago

stay off N4G... because the toxic posters internally made up their minds...

wait until the 3rd parties can release actual info on what they have and maybe we see an actual legit game made or ported to it...

btw.. that guys post on shield 2 (which doesnt exist) it would be at least the TegraX2, which according to specs... pretty nice. If Square Enix brings FF XV... i'm sure that's a feet to be had.

bow2yoda3501d ago

now would it not be cool if the switch allowed you to stream your pc games over tcp/ip to your switch tablet???!!! that would blow ms and sony away. so many playable games that nintendo could sit there and focus on their own thing... yeah its speculation, but it is feasible.

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eldingo3501d ago

It looks like a combo of the wii u and that nvidia gaming tablet i heard about a year or two back i wonder if they finally took focus away from motion/touch based gameplay for the games or if it really is the wii u evolution i was hoping it wouldn't be.

Until they release the specs and the confirmed game list for this im not sure how good this is gonna turn out to be.

Elronza3501d ago (Edited 3501d ago )

The Nintendo Switch is using an Nvidia Tegra Processor, and all Tegra Processors from the Tegra 4 on-wards are capable of native 4k gaming at 30fps-60fps and features HDR! The Tegra Processors are using Nvidia Kepler, and Maxwell architecture the same as Desktop and Laptop Pc's. The Tegra 4 can support an onboard.
Display
LCD 3200 x 2000 1920 x 1200
HDMI 4K (UltraHD) 1080P. I've posted below a link below of an almost 4 year old Nvidia Shield Portable which has a Tegra 4 Processor and a 720p display proving it can play games in 4k. Unlike your outdated low level PC Consoles the Ps4 Pro and Xbox Scorpio. Mobile and PC/Laptops come out with new technology all the time. So yes the Nintendo Switch is more powerful than the Ps4 Pro and Xbox Scorpio as it won't have to upscale! Links provided below as proof!

https://shield.nvidia.com/s...

https://blogs.nvidia.com/bl...

http://www.nvidia.com/objec...

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stuna13501d ago

Dude read the article! A tegra 4 with no way to keep it cool, are you listening to yourself? The screen itself is where the power is, so therefore to thin to provide a fan.

CarlosX3603501d ago

Yeah, seriously. The Tegra chips are just graphics processors. Not upscalers, like the article or article(s) are implying. You'd have to be Sony or Microsoft to pull off 4k on Switch. *shrugs*

ShwaaMan3501d ago (Edited 3501d ago )

So you're telling me that this tiny little tablet is capable of 4K gaming? Even though the PS4Pro and the beast that is the XboxOneScorpio (which doesn't come out for another year) can BARELY pull it off...And if you were right, for that much power in that small of a tablet (which we won't see for probably AT LEAST 5 years, not to mention a 4K display on a screen that small) this thing is going to cost over $1000. You have no idea what you are talking about lol.

CarlosX3603501d ago

Confirmed: 720p resolution. So, how is the screen going to translate the resolution onto the 4k screen? You'll need a checkerboard chip to produce it. Which, I think Nintendo doesn't have experience in, yet.

pcz3501d ago

candy crush 4k confirmed

Whirlwind_Fanfare_083501d ago

Your proof sucks! that's not true at all. LOL!

Ben Dover3501d ago

Good lord this post is full of fail...

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PizzaSteve3501d ago

I said this a long time ago that the NX(Switch) will not be a power house like the other consoles. Nintendo will keep it simple and cheaper. Nothing wrong with Nintendo going this direction but yet again it seems they made a console to benefit their 1st party more than 3rd party which will be strong at 1st but if the Switch can't handle certain games and the sales aren't great like Wii U expect support to start dropping like flies.

OtakuDJK1NG-Rory3501d ago

Yet it supports Unreal Engine 4 and Wii U doesn't.

Yall gonna be eating crows in the coming months.

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jmc88883501d ago (Edited 3501d ago )

Supporting Unreal Engine 4 doesn't mean it'll get all the 3rd parties. Because each game is dependent on what the developer wants to do.

Also, UE4 is not even used much. UE3 was the 'go to' engine for a large number of games. UE4 is almost rare in comparison.

What you are also forgetting, is that the each developer is going to need to make it so THEIR AAA 3rd party game WORKS when the Switch isn't docked.

So if the Switch is 0.7-1.1 TFlops WHEN docked, it's going to be likely half that when 'on the go'.

So how is say, Cyberpunk 2077 going to run on such a machine? Even if by miracle they pulled it off, it would be like playing the Xbox 360 version of Call of Duty when you can have the 4k PC version.

Think about it. By late 2017 if say by miracle all the AAA 3rd party games came out on Nintendo Switch, here's the order of their performance potential.

1. PC version
2. Scorpio Version
3. PS4 Pro Version
4. PS4 Version
5. XB1 Version
6. Nintendo Switch when docked
7. Nintendo Switch running at lower specs because it isn't docked.

If this thing really is 0.7-1.1 TFlops, WHEN docked, it's the power of 2007... when docked. Worse when 'on the go'.

At what price? $99? $149? $199? $249? $299? $349? $399. Most people are pegging it at $299-349. So odds are the PS4 and XB1 S will be cheaper, and the PS4 Pro not much more expensive... all with confirmed libraries.

Heck we could even see a price drop on the OG PS4 and XB1S to put pressure on Nintendo.

I want Nintendo to succeed, I just don't think they have created a product that will.

This seems to be a premium handheld that is more expensive than a console, in a market where handhelds are dying because of Smartphones.

Alot of people will never lug around a Switch because it's just too cumbersome and they can't be bothered with it, especially when they already carry around a cellphone. Besides, I can't play Switch and drive at the same time. It appeals to a small segment, it's a bunch of meh to everyone else, at likely a high price, and redundant and less functional in many ways compared to smartphones.

This thing could easily bomb outside the dedicated handheld Nintendo segment.

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TheUndertaker853501d ago

My CoolPad Android phone can run UE4 too. Doesn't make it any better.

OtakuDJK1NG-Rory3501d ago

@Shin-Zantetsuken
I wasn't one of those people because for one/ I didn't believe western developers will stay on board simply because I didn't care much I was looking forward to see the Japanese side of thing.

The Switch is already much more powerful than Wii U. Which make more than capable of running majority of the games..

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TheUndertaker853501d ago

There's already a problem with this theory:

How much do you believe a 900p tablet costs? Now strap on the two controllers. Further add a base.

For a point of reference the WiiU GamePad costs $150 to replace. The WiiU GamePad doesn't even house processing units or really much of anything. The base was doing the work before.

Now the Switch will basically be a tablet housing its own components. The dock will have to house more than the WiiU GamePad does. Further the cost of the controllers would be separate from the tablet as they're detachable and not actually part of the tablet.

The Shield tablet runs around $190. The entire setup for Shield runs around $350. That's disregarding that the Shield doesn't have a base like Switch will.

Look for Switch to retail for $399+.

OtakuDJK1NG-Rory3501d ago

The Tablet is the system and the detachable controller Joy-Con is coming with the system. It not going to be no more than $300.

_-EDMIX-_3501d ago

I don't really believe the accessories you just named seriously cost that much money do you not understand that the base is simply just out to the television?

Consider that piece of plastic could have just been a HDMI cable and a charging station because that's basically what the base station does it charges the handheld as well as allows itself to a television so I could not believe that would be over $100 extra if that sounds absolutely ludicrous.

If the tablet indeed is 900p it would question even more why would retail for 399 I believe what I read from the leaks and it's very likely it's going to debut at 299

Consider the leaks from some sources have not even been incorrect as of yet considering some sources called the exact day of announcement exactly what the device did and the actual price so I think it's very obvious they're onto something 299 is the actual price.

I mean were some of the sources wrong yet?

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