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Nintendo Switch is the definitive 21st Century console

The Nintendo Switch has finally appeared, and with it comes a slew of confirmations and questions. Though we currently know very little about the details, Middle of Nowhere Gaming's Brett Williams thinks that the console is perfect for life in the 21st Century and shows a company that is finally giving its audience gaming on its own terms.

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SCW19823375d ago

If battery life is good this thing will take off. If not, well we know how the Wii U tablet ended up don't we. Also price point better be reasonable.

wonderfulmonkeyman3375d ago

I'd pay for a $399 bundle that has the Switch Pro controller and two games.
AAA gaming on the go is an awesome idea.

SCW19823375d ago

Its a wait and see approach with me. Since the Wii I have just been burned too many times by them. They would have to have a new Metroid, WaveRace, MarioKart, F Zero or 3D Mario for me to bite. This new Zelda just isn't doing it for me.

Moonman3375d ago

I think everything you see hardware wise comes together with every system sold. The only place I saw to load a game was at the top right of the screen piece. That goes into the docking station when at home so you will need the controller to play. Maybe i'm wrong. Also, where would a disc even go if compatible?

bouzebbal3375d ago

Uh what? Epic fail if 399.
And they're showing 10 kinds of controllers... I mean what's for what ???
It's good to be a fan but not a blind one.. I need to see much more to get hooked

Muzikguy3375d ago

I have a feeling this would be the base price of the system with no games. I could be wrong, but who knows. There seem to be a lot of "things" that go along with it. (Docking station, controllers, etc)

Omnislashver363375d ago

If it were $399 with everything you said, I could guarantee those games are playing at 720p and are shopped for quality. If it's $399 without anything, it could run at 1080p which would be fine with me, just barely.

I'd still much rather a traditional console. They could do everything they showed with better graphics for $299 and maybe even throw in a free game. I'd be hooked onto that real quick.

Timesplitter143375d ago (Edited 3375d ago )

I dunno what you guys think, but I really can't imagine games like Zelda or Skyrim being enjoyable when played "on the go". You wouldn't be able to focus on the game enough. Games that are fit for mobile tend not to be action/realtime-oriented.

But I can see how this design would be great for the next pokemon game. They could combine the best of traditional pokemon games and pokemon GO

rjason123375d ago

Dude, it's called options, options are always a good thing.

freshslicepizza3375d ago (Edited 3375d ago )

I want to know how Zelda looks and plays compared to the WiiU and what kind of performance gap if any there is.

Years ago while Sony was going to CD Nintendo still went with cartridges on the N64, this led to huge problems from storage capacity to stock issues. How will this cope with games like Fallout 5 and The Witcher 4 and games of that nature?

ProjectVulcan3375d ago

It's basically an Nvidia Shield with Nintendo branding. It really is that simple to define.

Can't say I expect it to do a great deal better than the Shield did. But we'll see.

mikeslemonade3375d ago

I'm ready to hit the preorder button at $399. But my outlook is bleak on the health of this console. I'm more fortunate than other people. $399 is pennies to me.

Dasteru3375d ago

@abzdiine:

It will only be an epic fail at $399 if people are stupid and do not think with their brains.

Standard Nintendo pricing for home hardware and a handheld sold seperately would be $550. The WiiU was $299 at launch and the 3DS was $249. This is the successors to both in one package. $399 would be a very good price, especially if it includes a game.

bouzebbal3375d ago

@Timesplitter14

So many jrpg, zeldas are on handheld and they play just as good..no problem there.

KakashiHotake3375d ago

Thats just you though. Nintendo still has to prove themselves to win their fanbase back.

Muzikguy3375d ago

@mikes

That's awesome man! Could you buy me a Pro then when it releases? Those are some expensive pennies to me lol

_-EDMIX-_3375d ago

@Vulcan- "It's basically an Nvidia Shield with Nintendo branding. It really is that simple to define."

Pretty much that and a PSP 2000 and 3000 Series when I read the specs from the leaks my assumption was that this was what they were intending any way that it was going to be a handheld that could play on the TV by choice.

I'm not sure why people are now acting as if this is something so revolutionary when the leaks were telling folks it was exactly like several devices that actually already existed in gaming it goes to show you just how gullible people are to marketing because I did not hear any of this when those leaks came out in fact I heard many of these Gamers downplaying and even outright saying that it wasn't going to be that. Lol

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Muzikguy3375d ago

What I'm a bit surprised at is their choice of joystick placement. I do think it makes for easier button access, especially on a portable device. Just pointing it out is all since Sony uses a different approach.

Moonman3375d ago

I thing it has to do with designing it to look like the Yin and Yang symbol and to look different from wii u.

DillyDilly3375d ago

Just say its the XBOX placeme4nt

Muzikguy3375d ago

Just because they're opposite from each other? No, just because they're not right next to each other doesn't mean they're automatically an Xbox placement.

blawren43375d ago

So that when two people are playing together, each half is identical

subtenko3375d ago

look yall, the 'xbox placement' is call 'like xbox' for a reason. Just say it, its less confusing during discussion, dagon....

Muzikguy3375d ago (Edited 3375d ago )

But it's not like Xbox. Just because it's not like PlayStation does not mean that it has to be like Xbox. It's different. What's confusing is calling things something that they aren't.

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miyamoto3375d ago

Why do they have to make it so COMPLICATED?

deafdani3375d ago

There's nothing complicated on what they showed in the video. It's pretty damn straightforward.

game4funz3375d ago

Complicated?
I can see the possibilities being complicated to someone in their 60's to 80's who missed the technology jump.

X-Alchemist3375d ago

Be sure to screenshot these articles just in case there's a funny plot twist down the line

nitus103375d ago

I would not say it's complicated but the main question to ask is if it's kid friendly?

Sounds silly doesn't it but if you really want to test a product for robustness then give it to 5 to 15-year-old kids and see if it can hold up. In fact, because of the so-called switch capability, there are many adults who would effectively damage the product even faster than some kids.

@game4funz

Being old has nothing to do with technology jumps. Most of my computing knowledge stems for the late 1970's and I have also workd with Cray super computers. I won't deny that consumer computing products have increased in performance but the basics have not changed for well over 45 years.

_-EDMIX-_3375d ago

Complicated? I don't remember the PSP 2000 being all that complicated bud it's more simple than you're making it out to be, you plug it into the TV and it could also play and it is a portable....

bow2yoda3374d ago

game4funz i dont think that the demographic was 60s -80s lol

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Bahamut3375d ago

I just bought an upgraded battery for the Wii U gamepad. Go to Nintendo's official site, you can find it there.

Loktai3374d ago

Nobody knows about the wii u and it's battery life. Because it didn't sell and it had zero to do with that.

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gangsta_red3375d ago

Those side controllers are so tiny

Summons753375d ago

but I'm sure the only time you will notice is if you detach them to do the two player. Even then, it seems like a concept made more to appeal to the handheld side when on a road trip like they showed in the trailer. I think that will be largely ignored except by families with kids in the back seat of cars, otherwise when playing local multiplayer I'm guessing you'd rather play on the big screen than the small screen.

gangsta_red3375d ago

Oh yea, that's where I noticed how small they were. When they were detached. Not to mention no d-pad, so fighting games would be definitely out when on the go. Unless you have a Pro controller in your pocket also.

Omnislashver363375d ago

I'll never let someone use a half-controller. Even if I'm on the go, if I decide to play two-player, I'm packing the pro-controller.

Neonridr3375d ago

@gangsta_red - the left side controller has what would be a d-pad. It's just buttons instead of a traditional d-pad. Look closely at the buttons and you will see the up, down, left, right notations.

Barricade3375d ago

What do you mean, no D-pad? The left Joy-Con controller has a D-pad. It's just split in 4 buttons.

gangsta_red3375d ago

Those controllers when separated have no d-pad.

"It's just split in 4 buttons."

Positive that doesn't actually make a d-pad.

Barricade3375d ago (Edited 3375d ago )

@gansta_red

Yeah you're right, it's not a D-pad, but there are buttons to give directions, which is what you were aiming at I think.

And I didn't really think about using only one half how you put it, my bad. Probably need some more controllers for fighting games.

spicelicka3375d ago

Yea looks like they're only practical for the most basic games. In the trailer they showed people playing NBA 2K with those little things, I don't know how that will ever work efficiently.

KilKarazy3375d ago

It probably won't. The game is superimposed onto the screen. It's not actually a video of the screen.

OtakuDJK1NG-Rory3375d ago

You don't have to use outside or using the detachable controllers.
Nintendo Switch is giving option.

rainslacker3375d ago (Edited 3375d ago )

Maybe...but it's not like handhelds have ever had lots of real estate for their control scheme.

I'd imagine at home, most would be using the "pro" controller. Using the split controller for MP seems like a quick way to flare up my carpel tunnel though. Kind of reminds me of those mini NES controllers for USB sticks I've seen.

As far as the Dpad, probably a side effect of being able to split the controller for MP gaming. Adding the dpad would make them less concentric between the two. So long as it works like a Dpad, I guess it's alright. Ultimately, a Dpad is just 8 button contacts underneath a single pivoting piece of plastic, and nowadays it'd be easy enough to simulate 7913, although it may not feel as good.

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gbsrnctaln3375d ago (Edited 3375d ago )

Lol. Ya....until we find out the specs, all of this fanboy jizz is just that.

I must say if that Mario game is as open as it looks, Im sold. The portable aspect I could do without though. I would kill for a cheap option with a pro controller and just a system box with no screen or portable options...you know like a traditional HOME console without crap I dont want or need attached driving up the price.

EddieNX 3375d ago

The specs don't matter to me. The ability to play Skyrim remastered on the go proves that's an extremely powerful device for what it is. Seems like they've made it as powerful as they possibly could.

If it can run PS4 and Xb1 games at a good level then who cares about the specs?

gbsrnctaln3375d ago

Because they would be in almost the same exact position they were in with the wiiu, inferior 3rd party ports, a gimmicky controller forced onto us, and the only reason for buying being their 1st party games.

EddieNX 3375d ago (Edited 3375d ago )

Nah the NX looks like the real deal, as much as I love my WiiU i'm well aware of its flaws.
I'll be buying any mulitplat I can on it because the portability is a huge advantage over the other platforms

Ediet- it seems they're going down this path yh unless they have a new small handheld unnanounced which is unlikely

gbsrnctaln3375d ago

I can see that being a factor for some. I dont mobile game though, so for me the cost is driven up because of features I will not use and dont want.

So is the dedicated Nintendo handheld dead?

The_Sage3375d ago

I'm not trying to argue, but actually asking... Has it been stated to be the remaster?

EddieNX 3375d ago

It sure looks like the remaster i'll tell you that much. Do you honestly believe they would put the old version on the switch and release a remaster on other consoles?

It's the remastered version alright..

_-EDMIX-_3375d ago

We don't know in what respect it's actually playing Skyrim to actually say that though I believe it is a capable device in regards to power but I cannot say that it's powerful than PlayStation 4 or Xbox One.

Gaming software is not absolute, it is dynamic , games scale. I would not even define Skyrim remastered as a PlayStation 4 or Xbox One game if you consider you could remaster Skyrim to many degrees on platforms more powerful than the Playstation 3 or 360 which the Wii U and clearly this new handheld is.

The reality is we don't know which build of Skyrim is being played to make such an assumption.

_-EDMIX-_3375d ago

@gd- I wouldn't necessarily say the dedicated handheld by Nintendo was dead as much as the dedicated console is dead because this device has to be portable foremost to actually even work.

I could see them making a smaller version that could fit into your pocket more easily while having all the same features. Technically speaking you could take this on the go with you and never connected to a TV and you still have a portable was the PSP 2000 and 3000 Series suddenly now no longer Portables because you had the ability to play them on the TV by choice?

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OtakuDJK1NG-Rory3375d ago (Edited 3375d ago )

It support Unreal Engine 4.
There ya go.

Which the Wii U doesn't and the only way it can if it was modified.

gbsrnctaln3375d ago

So a little above a wiiu. Thx!

EddieNX 3375d ago

Quite a lot above the Wiiu.

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Neonridr3375d ago

Then leave it docked in the station and play it only on your TV. We still don't know if the dock does anything else aside from sending the signal to the TV or if there is any additional oomph in there to help the game look and run better.

gbsrnctaln3375d ago

I will. Just disappointed that I have to pay extra for crap I wont use, or habe the system gimped due to keeping it affordable while having those features I wont use. How hard is that to understand?

_-EDMIX-_3375d ago

So many had theories on the dock providing some extra GPU strength from what I seen on the video there's not really a lot of desertion between what's being played on the actual handheld and the TV screen, they literally look damn near the same so even if we were to say it's giving some sort of performance boost it's questionable if that was even necessary based on the footage that I've seen I would actually recommend having Zero Performance boost to keep the cost down because I don't even think it's necessary at this point how many consumers do you really believe want to pay extra money for a performance boost that they could barely see?

If I was Nintendo and I've been saying this for over a year now I would simply just have it out to the TV to save costs.

A handheld that you could play on the TV is going to at least give something to the people who are fans of their consoles without completely alienating them through this transition.

People seem to be having a hard time understanding that this is a handheld that outs to the TV just like the PSP 3000 and 2000 did.

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ShottyatLaw3375d ago

Curious about the NBA and Splatoon gameplay. Is this a wireless LAN setup, or are they connecting online? NBA game looks to be 2v2 on two systems. Splatoon looks to be 4v4 with everyone on their own tablet.

That could be very interesting.

conanlifts3375d ago (Edited 3375d ago )

2 pads can link wirelessly over a lan setup from what i can see for local 4 player.
Is that what you mean?
Most likely it uses some form of bluetooth communication .

Neonridr3375d ago

could be an ad-hoc sort of connection, or bluetooth.

silvacrest3375d ago

innovative as i expected from nintendo but i can't imagine its very powerful, being portable

conanlifts3375d ago

It will be powerful for a portable. The question is will it be as powerful as an x1 or ps4 or will it max out at around 1tflop.

Deadpooled3375d ago (Edited 3375d ago )

Much more powerful compared to the wii U's 170 odd Gflops?

_-EDMIX-_3375d ago

I don't think so but like I've been saying for well over a year now I don't actually think it needs to be they're just different markets and I think they could do well with their new portable.

conanlifts3375d ago

Edmix. Yeah i agree. I am also very interested in the games they can bring to the system if they only have 1 major platform to work with.

Neonridr3375d ago

lol, this thing would eat the Vita for breakfast and spit it out for lunch.

subtenko3375d ago

lol and if sony ever mande a vita 2 "that thing would eat the Switch for breakfast and spit it out for dinner"

now excuse me I will patiently wait with responsible hype for more info on the switch until then, it looks nice but we'll see how it all plays out when its in its first year or 2, then i might buy iit

TheEnigma3133375d ago

it will be 5 1/2 years never. Of course it will be better.

Neonridr3375d ago

what I am trying to say is that everyone says the Vita is an impressive piece of hardware. This thing is arguably an Xbox One in your hand. That's pretty darn cool if you ask me.

Is it the PS4 Pro? No, but anyone expecting a handheld to deliver visuals on par with that need their heads examined.

zaherdab3375d ago

lol ... lol ...lol !!! something absurd ...lol !!!
I think my statement is a bit more logical than urs ... but lol !!

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ginsunuva3374d ago

It doesn't need to be since it's not competing with other consoles/PC.

It's trying to fill a gap in between mobile and console gaming.

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MrDead4d ago

I've been surprised by this, the difference between 4 and 4.5 is very noticeable. It's almost completely or has removed that weird dark ghosting that you'd get in foggy games like Silent Hill 2... and Cyberpunk mixed with a high res texture pack is jaw dropping in ultra 4k.

Also if anyone doesn't know I recommend DLSS swapper, it allows you to inject the latest DLSS version into older games.

batiti932d ago

totally useless since NVIDIA app release last year... It does force latest DLSS to global settings if you ask the app to do so.

MrDead2d ago

The NVidia app doesn't let you choose which version of, DLSS Frame Gen and DLSS Ray Reconstruction like DLSS Swapper does.

Goodguy013d ago

Quite amazing. But, this does probably mean devs will depend on ai even more for their supposed optimizations lol.

Neonridr3d ago

no offense to AMD, but this sort of stuff shows that they are always going to be playing catchup. I guess Nintendo can take advantage of some of these features.

badz1492d ago

With the Switch 2? NVidia can easily lock their proprietary tech to their latest GPUs and the Switch 2 will be stuck on 3.5 for 5 more years at least

Neonridr2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

4 and 4.5 are available on 2 and 3 series cards right now. The Switch GPU is based on 3 series architecture, meaning it has access to some of those features. Obviously not as much as the higher end cards, but still some.

TheDreamCorridor1d 23h ago (Edited 1d 23h ago )

"Better than native."

Native 4K in nearly all games nowadays is actually native resolution with forced temporal anti-aliasing.

TAA smears and blurs frames together to soften jagged edges.

Of course DLSS makes games look "better than native" because native alone without any competent AA methods makes games look horrible.

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