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NVIDIA Gaming Technology Powers Nintendo Switch

Nintendo Switch is powered by a custom NVIDIA Tegra processor, with a GPU based on the same architecture as the world’s top-performing GeForce cards.

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crazychris41243416d ago

Wish they would tell us if it's the X1 or X2

Neonridr3416d ago

well if it's custom it leads me to believe that it's probably at least better than the X1, but based on some of the games it is showing I am thinking this GPU is a lot more powerful than we thought.

I mean Skyrim HD Remaster on that thing? Can't be some crappy mobile GPU that powers that thing.

crazychris41243416d ago (Edited 3416d ago )

Guess it is a custom X2 after all. Think they said it was in the ballpark on current consoles. We will find out later how powerful it is once people get their hands on it.

mikeslemonade3416d ago

Doesn't take much to be ballpark to these consoles since PS4 only has 10 times the hardware of the WiiU. Still dissapointing. And the fact that we still have to wait 5 months for this crap. This should have been out a year ago when the WiiU was floundering.

Erik73573416d ago

Well skyrim HD, which looks worse than the orginal pc release even without the superior graphic mods in a lot of aspects, is not that hard of a game to run...

Neonridr3416d ago

@Fries1223 - yet it takes the PS4 or XB1 to run it..

ABizzel13416d ago

It could be either to be honest. At worst it's a custom Tegra X1 which as @Neonridr said it's going to be better than the standard version. But looking at NBA 2k if that is real gameplay then it proves NX is somewhere between Wii U and XBO / PS4. Graphically the game is a step ahead of the PS360 version, the Lighting alone proves that. That being said everything else doesn't look quite as good as the PS4/XBO such as the crowd, the character models, etc...

We can't really use the other games or Skyrim because it doesn't take much to run even them, and the rest were Wii U games. The only new software was the new Mario which looked great but in a side by side comparison not quite as good as Ratchet and Clank on PS4, but noticeably better than Ratchet and Clank on PS3. So again GPU wise, we should expect that at worst we're getting better than Wii U performance, but not quite XBO performance, graphically speaking.

That being said resolution and framerate are also the last bit of info we need from those games. I'm sure FPS is going to be in line with the PS4/XBO for Skyrim and NBA2k and the Wii U ports. But resolution is the big question. Honestly the games looked better on the HDTV than the screen, so I'm assuming the games run at 720p on the handheld, but upscale to full 1080p on the TV, and hopefully the dock allows the hardware to overclock for better settings, since Skyrim did look better on the TV.

So IMO we're looking at 800 GFLOPs in portable mode, and 1 TFLOP when docked. So 2x - 3x the power of Wii U, in a handheld-hybrid console which is completely fine with me considering the type of device this is. The bigger concern is the CPU (is it Denver or Kryo), and the battery life.

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Kokyu3415d ago (Edited 3415d ago )

You guys are guessing its skyrim remastered they never said it was. I beat its just plain skyrim.

TheFirstClassic3415d ago

@Fries1223 skyrim on pc looks dated as hell without mods, don't kid yourself.

mikeslemonade3415d ago

NBA 2k is not an intense game

rainslacker3415d ago

You don't have to wait mike. You don't like anything involving consoles or less than 3X SLI TItanX's because apparently it's not up to your standards of graphics quality.

Why you even bother coming to console articles to bitch about consoles power all the time is beyond me. YOu have made it abundantly clear that your standards require a super charged, very expensive PC to satiate.

The rest of us appreciate games for the actual games.

That being said and to respond to people who care, Custom Tegra X2 is likely. There wouldn't be much price saving by sticking with the X1 modified, since it's a custom chip anyhow, and will have it's own pricing structure.

babadivad3415d ago

Rumors I've heard has it at .75TF. That's pretty close to current consoles.

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never4get3416d ago

Lol! Nintendo Switch could have 8.9 TFLOPS GTX1080 EXTERNAL GPU "Supplemental Computing Device"!!!

Nintendo Switch with GTX1080 8.9 TFLOPS > Scorpio 6TFLOPs > PS4PRO 4.2TFLOPS

peewee110163416d ago

LoL its running a Terga buddy

Erik73573416d ago

Or ya know you could just put that gpu in a pc and get more use out of it but whatever you can choose to waste a gtx1080

babadivad3415d ago (Edited 3415d ago )

Well, if it's Tegra X2. It will have 2 Denver Cores. 4 A57 cores. Memory bandwith could become a problem though. It's only rated at 50GBs

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Dasteru3415d ago

Either the X2 or a custom of some sort. The intial switch reveal already confirmed it was Pascal based so it can't be the X1.

conanlifts3415d ago

According to nintendo life nintendo will not be announcing specs or games until next year. Very strange as unless i know what games they have i won't preorder the thing.

ginsunuva3415d ago

The blog clearly says it's neither. It's a custom one.

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KaladinStormblessed3416d ago

The console looks small, even smaller than the WiIU, how much power can they realistically pack in there?

Valkron13416d ago (Edited 3416d ago )

The Nvidia Tegra X2 is a Pascal based chip. That is a big boost over Maxwell based X1 chip. That might explain why Nintendo waited so long so they could incorporate it in Switch

ABizzel13416d ago

1. Since it's a Tegra
2. Has to be able to run in portable mode, meaning lower clock speeds
3. Runs on a battery in portable mode

It's more than likely it's running around 700 GFLOP (handheld) - 1+ TFLOP (console-dock) which isn't the best way to explain it since all flops are different, especially between NVIDIA and AMD. But in comparison the XBO is 1.31 TFLOP and PS4 is 1.84.

RGB3415d ago

750 GFLOP/s top end for Tegra X2 @ 1465MHz. <--- We don't know what the clock speed Switch will be yet.
We don't know either what the dock is packing hardware wise so let's not guess.

Price has to be very competitive, if it's $399 for Switch + Dock, I think this system is going to have a bad run like WiiU. PS4 Pro being 4.2 TFLOP/s starting at $399 and Scorpio (6 TFLOP/s) rumoured to be the same is going to hurt sales & development soon after launch imo.

ABizzel13415d ago

@RGB

I based it off the Tegra X1 FLOPS, and clock speeds, so all of this is completely hypothesized until concrete details come out.

The NX is rumored to be 2x - 3x more powerful than Wii U, and if the Tegra X2/P1 scales up with the same performance difference between Maxwell -> Pascal then the X2/P1 should be in the 700 - 800 GFLOP range at similar clock speeds to the current NVIDIA Shield console, which uses a Tegra X1 at 550 / 600 MHz, thus around 500+ GFLOPS.

That being said the X2/P1 architecture should provide lower TDP which allows it to fit into a tablet like device and run on a battery without instantly draining it. And there should be some room to play around with higher clock speeds so that's why I'm saying about 700 GFLOPS for the handheld (safe), and 1+ TFLOP when it's docked (if it can boost those clock speeds).

The NX is basically a combination of the Wii U + NVIDIA's shield tablet and console.

I completely agree on price being the big concern, which is why I'm hoping they go for $249 for the standalone handheld, and $349 for the handheld, the dock, pro controller, and a game. Because it's inevitably going to be compared to the PS4 and PS4 Pro, XBOs and XBO Scropio and pricing wise the lower-end PS4 and XBOs could easily drop to $250 this holiday or sometime next year.

That being said I think it'll be $299 for the handheld and $349 with the dock included. For the a tablet and the hardware it's a good price, the problem is it has to have the OS and features to back that price up, and unfortunately Nintendo has not been king of features or OS.

KaladinStormblessed3415d ago

There's also the fact that it doesn't have a disc drive, so that allows it to be much smaller then your average console.

RGB3415d ago

@ABizzel1
It's a custom Tegra SoC and that's about all we know at the moment. We don't know the RAM amount either, It's speculation at this point.

What isn't speculation is the numbers regarding X1 and X2 Tegra chipsets.
X1; 256 cores x 2 cycles x 1000MHz = 512 GFLOP/s with 64-bit bus @ 25.6GB/s speed
X2; 256 cores x 2 cycles x 1465MHz = 750 GFLOP/s with 128-bit bus @ 50GB/s speed

WiiU was 352 GFLOP/s so on paper it's not 3x more powerful, architecture wise it could very well be though, especially with Nvidia > AMD.

Glad to see others have concerns regarding price like me. $250 seems low but possible for just the portable component. $350 max with dock (no pro controller, maybe a pack-in game) in my opinion otherwise hardcore gamers will be put off because it's vastly underpowered compared to immediate new rivals and I for one play my portables at home more than on the go. Can't see the portable being only $50 cheaper than a dock bundle, seems like more is going on with that than it just being a home hub.

Happen to agree regarding feature set and OS with Nintendo too, WiiU was so far off 2012 standards. They really need to get the online aspects of Switch to PSN/Live levels. Not to mention they need to sustain 3rd party support (having a good network would help), not let it drop off soon after launch if they want to maintain and grow their user base too.

JOHN_DOH3415d ago

FLOPS is a measurement of computer power. It was standardized by the IEEE, it's the same for all computers.

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TheUndertaker853415d ago

If there's no disc drive that pretty well eliminates backwards compatibility short of digital

_-EDMIX-_3415d ago

Well it's a handheld why would it have a disk drive? Did you miss the whole point of it being portable?

_-EDMIX-_3415d ago

Well it's a handheld why would it have a disk drive? Did you miss the whole point of it being portable?

marloc_x3415d ago

..it might stream from the Wii U?

ShadowKnight3416d ago (Edited 3416d ago )

A custom X2?

CrimsonWing693415d ago

Not that controller, the thing looks like a dog with toxic avenger facial features. It's like making that original Xbox Duke controller look like an NES pad.

Pancit_Canton3415d ago

It looks like Nintendo is screwed again when it comes to third party port.

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Don't wait two years like me, you need Bazzite on your Asus ROG Ally right now

Pocket Tactics writes: "I finally made the move to install Bazzite on my ROG Ally recently, and I can't imagine playing this Steam Deck rival without it going forward."

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What an Xbox founder thinks of the new Xbox CEO | Seamus Blackley interview

Gamesbeat caught up with Blackley to extract some wisdom about Microsoft’s journey in games, what he thinks Sharma should do, and where gaming can go next. Part of his message is hopeful, but Blackley sees a lot of peril on the road that Microsoft is following. And it makes him worry about the future of gaming.

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piroh1d 18h ago

"I expect that the new CEO, Asha Sharma, her job is going to be as a palliative care doctor who slides Xbox gently into the night."

LOL

Anyway, let's wait and see maybe Mia Khalifa will surprise us.

rlow11d 16h ago

I’m on the fence about her. I’ll give her chance, but if she is there to finish things off. Well what can you do.

Abnor_Mal1d 14h ago (Edited 1d 13h ago )

After seeing the article of the possible sunsetting of Xbox as said by Seamus Blackley I believe, I went onto X because of a post I saw. It was a gif of Vegeta powering up, the poster commented as Vegeta yelling “Don’t take my fiercest competitor away from me.” Standing there in his blue Sayian/Freiza corps outfit. So it got me to thinking, so let me ask a question to N4G.

If Vegeta is PlayStation, who would Xbox and Nintendo be in the Dragon Ball universe?

Who would be Master Roshi?

I have my own opinion of course, I just want to see what others think.

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That’s It, I’m Calling It, Xbox Is Dead, Time Of Death February 20

If you read Kotaku even semi-regularly, you already know that Xbox has been in a weird spot for some time now. And with today’s news that both Xbox boss Phil Spencer and President Sarah Bond are leaving and the new head of the brand will be a former Meta exec who previously lead Microsoft’s AI division, I think it’s time to call it. Xbox is dead. Time of death: February 20, 2026

beerhound4d ago

"The report of my death was an exaggeration." = Mark Twain

derek3d ago

"You would have to be alive first before dying" =
Me

Cacabunga3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

This brand died in the last 2 years of 360 since Kinect announcement.. downfall started all of a sudden until reaching the point of no return with xbox 1 DRM disasters

beerhound4d ago

"The report of my death was an exaggeration." - Mark Twain

BehindTheRows4d ago

So ready to defend that you posted it twice.

In any event, I have a more accurate quote: "It's dead, Jim".

S2Killinit4d ago

Also Mark Twain:
I have never wished death on anyone but I have read some obituaries with great pleasure.

Zerobalance4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

God! Xbox dead again! Boring! Boring. Heard it all before.

InUrFoxHole4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

While I normally agree... The future of xbox is on shaky ground. Well, xbox as we know it. Im not sure what they are shooting for but who they put in charge mixed with Phil retiring and bond just flat out leaving. It's not looking good.

REDDURT4d ago

Im with you but in western countries I have noticed a trend to put women in control to prevent any kind of critics.

F0XH0UND9224d ago

Does this coping mechanism normally work for you?

bsingle404d ago

Get ready to hear it a lot more as the final nail goes home.

derek3d ago

Copilot is running the xbox division now, its first official act was fire Spencer and Bond then sell Xbox for scraps.

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Levii_924d ago

Oh come on, Xbox has been dead for at least 10 years now. I think what’s more important right now is Playstation’s death that is very slowly but surely happening through mismanagement and greed.

InUrFoxHole4d ago

Some what agree. Sony is in a better position to unf#$k themselves. Xbox isn't.

Levii_924d ago

True i agree with that, xbox's got nothing

ocelot074d ago

I actually agree sooner Hust is gone the better.

Levii_924d ago

He's being clowned on by the entire internet but i have been clowning on him way before he became CEO. I hate modern PS so much man. To this day i have no idea how Astro Bot happend in this terrible PS era but that was clearly a miracle.

Grilla4d ago

Delusional take, why do xbots always project Xbox’s problems onto PlayStation?

BehindTheRows4d ago

Every. Time! They compare the closing of a studio (one I liked, mind you, but they know their business better than internet dwellers) to the departure of not one but TWO major figureheads at Xbox. On top of Xbox's other problems, they are also now selling their games everywhere (not just PC).

Sorry diehard Xbox fanatics, we've been down this road before. PlayStation has closed studios. It happens. Maybe they weren't pulling their weight. Maybe they have a restructure in place. What ever the case, it won't come any close to tanking their brand. Xbox isn't in that boat. As a piece of hardware, it is all but irrelevant (hanging on only because of Game Pass at this point). It serves no other purpose because you don't even need that console to play its games. If it was just Xbox/PC, that would be different, but here we are.

So, this isn't the SonyToo that y'all love to hang on. Things are not good for Xbox hardware. At all. It is about time to start accepting that.

0hMyGandhi4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

Respectfully, This is probably one of my least favorite tactics in making an argument.
I'll give you an example: If I like the color red, it doesn't mean I hate the color blue.

People lamenting the (potential) demise of the xbox brand has nothing to do with sony or playstation. It has everything to do with xbox. Now, for the sake of argument, you could say that Sony and Microsoft are two peas in a pod, and that they've both made absolutely baffling and worryingly stupid decisions in the recent past. But I truly believe that Xbox would be shooting itself in the foot regardless of Sony's presence (I look at you, Xbox One reveal with always online DRM and the inability to share games).

Sony, on the other hand, is making stupid decisions to stay competitive with the market, and like Microsoft, is seemingly forcing by proverbial gunpoint talented developers to try to make the next GAAS experience and never learning their lesson. I believe that Microsoft squandering RARE is the equivalent of Sony squandering Naughty Dog. Neither platform really knows what they want to be, BUT Sony is alot further along in figuring it out before Microsoft pulls out another revolver and takes aim at another of it's own toes.

Agent754d ago

Xbox died after the Xbox 360. The Xbox One was mediocre, the Series X was game shy. I'm glad Phil is retiring.

S2Killinit4d ago

Exaggerated projection of xbox problems onto Sony. This is what gave xbox the extra slack all these generations to eventually run themselves into the ground.

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The_Blue4d ago

This is why the views and comments are low, with lame articles that use divide-and-conquer pretensions.

ApexLanding234d ago

To be fair "divide and conquer pretensions" have been present in the comment section of this website for years regardless of the articles title, composition or intent. It's therefore unlikely that's what's playing a part in low viewership and commenting.

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