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Blog: With Project Scorpio, Microsoft Is Changing the Rules

With both Microsoft and Sony releasing upgraded consoles mid-cycle, the rules have certainly changed.

Xavy3518d ago (Edited 3517d ago )

Microsoft tried to change the rules with Xbone and FAILED hard!

Whatever Sony does MS follows like this gen have shown us, and it will continue like this til the day gaming dies.

vegasgamerdawg3518d ago

Got to love N4G, first post is fanBOY drivel. SO much for intelligent conversation. Let's battle who's got the better opinion....smh.

rainslacker3518d ago

How about changing the rules and posting something intelligent for people to discuss instead of criticizing someone else for being unintelligent.

Be part of the solution, not the problem.

Hoffmann3518d ago

Replying to a shitpost with another shitpost is like releasing one obsolete game console after another one.

Eonjay3518d ago

You comment is worse because it adds nothing to the conversation. It is pathetic for you to have such disdain for a site you so frequently visit.

LexHazard793518d ago

What I find even funnier is you guys giving vegasgamer a hard time, probably agreed with Xavy. Lol...

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Kingthrash3603518d ago

MS is changing the rules with scorpio? But sonys ps4pro comes before the scorpio no? So wasn't it sony who changed the rules? I'm confused.

Errorist763518d ago

Exactly...MS weren't even working on Scorpio until they heard about Sony realeasing PSPro earlier this year. So who changed the rules?!

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blackout3518d ago

Sony is not changing anything either. Microsoft has done this before, OG XBOX. Sony is just now getting down with the wave.

lokirevamped3517d ago

Just because something releases first doesn't mean it was thought of or even worked on first.

Kingthrash3603517d ago

Yeah it just leaked first, releases first, shown in action first, confirmed first, shown full specs first, will bring native 4k first, and be the first to be hated on by guys like you...also I'm implying to the title....and which is a bs title.

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LexHazard793518d ago (Edited 3518d ago )

Lmao....fanboy logic.

GorillaTact3518d ago (Edited 3518d ago )

No disrespect intended, but how old are you? Console hardware and software has been playing tit for tat since the NES/Sega days. If you do some reading on the history of console hardware/software you will learn that you are in a looping argument and all major companies in the history of console gaming have been in the leader/follower role at some point.

lokirevamped3517d ago (Edited 3517d ago )

What puzzles me is, How can anyone that doesn't like a particular platform enter into a room about that platform? If I hated something there is no way I would care to hear anything about it. Now to the article. I really don't think the Scorpio is targeted to users with 4k TV's so to say. I think the PS4Pro as well as the Scorpio will be targeted to gamers like myself who like now change and not later change. I have no problem for mid life consoles to come out that allows for higher FPS or graphics (I prefer 1080p\60FPS)....I have the Pro ordered and I await an order date for the Scorpio.

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Manashake3518d ago (Edited 3518d ago )

How i would love to buy an xbox, but i can't hardly find some games i love to play. Mostly fps war and sports...two genres i don't care about. 📈

Yohshida3518d ago

Sports?
Racing, strategy, platformer, Party, fighting, mmo, Zombie survival, Action..... So many different genres

Errorist763518d ago

Didn't you just state you game on PC? Why not just play all this on PC?!

Yohshida3518d ago

I have all current game platforms. I play the game on the platform with my most friends online. Rocket league on PC, Gears on Xbox etc. Most mp games either PC or Xbox.

Manashake3518d ago

All genres i don't like, except for platformers. 😉

ShowanW3518d ago

The rules have changed, and both MS & Sony realized it had to change.

Tech advances rapidly, very rapidly... Games consoles are about the only piece of tech that stays stagnant for 5+ yrs. Heck I saw an article the other day with Mark Zuckerberg (of Facebook fame) wearing a prototype Oculous Rift Headset that's completely wireless. The current Rift hasnt even been on the market for 6months and a new VR headset already appears to be in WORKING prototype stages. Thats how fast tech advances.

But Sony & MS are on to something very smart. Iteratitive consoles. Iterative like cell phones, but not iterating at a pace phone pace.

4K tvs cost an arm and a leg in 2014 when the PS4 & Xbox One were still pretty new on store shelves, now as we head into 2017, u can get a 4K display (a pretty good one at that) for $800-$1000.

Once PS4Pro and Project Scorpio are on store shelves for 3-4yrs or so, I believe they will become the "base model" consoles... Sony and MS will introduce official PS5 and "Next"-Box respectively and all games will continue to just work... Launch PS4 & Xbox Ones will be phased put and the cycle will continue like that if successful

Errorist763518d ago

PS5 will be out 2 years after Scorpio already, don't forget that.

ShowanW3518d ago (Edited 3518d ago )

@Errorist76

if sony is sticking with a 3yr cycle, i guess this makes sense.

PS4 (2013) > 4Pro (2016)> PS5? (2019)

edit: but there may be a chance that sony waits on a major technology shift (new cpu, or gpu, or better cooling) that may, convince them to wait an additional year or so.

Errorist763518d ago

@Showan

They won't let have MS have a faster console for longer than needed. Especially since PS5 will most likely be downward compatible.

Chris123517d ago

@Errorist76 - on every MS thread spreading lies and FUD. You have no idea when PS5 will be released. You also claim that MS hadn't even considered Scorpio until earlier this year, again complete crap. I'm sure you get your jollies from spreading lies but you can only cry wolf so many times buddy. Pathetic.

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GrubsterBeater3517d ago

@Gangsta Red

Do you have any of those things for the Scorpio aside from "targeted 6TF" and "Holiday 2017 target release"?

Didn't think so..

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SlappingOysters3280d ago

Microsoft needs to be encouraging devs to do more than just clone what they did for PS4 Pro in my opinion, given it is a more powerful machine.

IamTylerDurden13280d ago

TESO is native 4K with HDR on PS4 Pro. What more do u expect on Scorpio? If ppl really believe the Crap Gamer rhetoric that every game will be native 4K 60fps on Scorpio then they will be sorely disappointed. In fact, there will certainly be a fair share of 3rd party games with parity between Pro and Scorpio.

freshslicepizza3280d ago

"In fact, there will certainly be a fair share of 3rd party games with parity between Pro and Scorpio."

That's called laziness if it happens. Many PS4 titles are 1080p and 900p on Xbox One so why do parity now? Please provide the proof of any claims Scorpio is supposed to be a 4k60fps console? You can't just tell developers to all of the sudden make 60fps games.

Goldby3280d ago

@Moldy

tyler is talkign about the fanboys thinking every game is going to be 4k 60fps on scorpio because... scoprio.

Laziness or proper budgeting? There wont nearly be as many ps4 pros or scorpios out there compared to the ps4 and xbox 1s so why would they go about making a patch for one and a separate patch for another one (that isn't even out yet)

at the end of the day, developers need to see some sort of return on their investment, and with ESO patch for pro making it 4k and HDR compatible, why is it a bad thing that the Scorpio is matching those?

freshslicepizza3279d ago (Edited 3279d ago )

@Goldby
"tyler is talkign about the fanboys thinking every game is going to be 4k 60fps on scorpio because... scoprio"

You guys keep saying this without naming names because in reality it's Sony fans trying to project unrealistic expectations so that they can say it didn't meet this imaginary threshold.

This difference in resolution started at the beginning of this generation, when there were zero sold yet. There was no parity at the beginning but you guys seem to hope it starts now, not surprisingly.

Goldby3279d ago

@Moldy

i'm not gonna go look through thousands of pages to see the 4k 60fps comments. i have more important things to do that waste my time debunking your ps4 fanboy comment.

There are people on the xbox forums (deamonisfear ebing one of them ) that has on regular basis said 4k60fps for scoprio.

and again, you didnt answer my question.
at the end of the day, developers need to see some sort of return on their investment, and with ESO patch for pro making it 4k and HDR compatible, why is it a bad thing that the Scorpio is matching those?

is it such a bad thing for tyhe developers to take a patch they already have, and make it work for the Xbox Scorpio, instead of investing a lot of extra time makign a specific patch for a console that will be a fraction of the actual xbox fanbase?

IamTylerDurden13279d ago

Moldy

The crap gamer crew goes around telling ppl that every game will be 4k 60 on Scorpio. I've seen it.

U don't remember Ubisoft and thier push for parity earlier this gen? It was absolutely a thing.

This is totally different than the PS4 and xb1 having parity anyway. These are extra consoles with a VERY limited install base. Don't u understand that? The likelihood of parity between Pro and Scorpio is far greater than the likelihood of parity between PS4 and xb1 bc the install base is so comparatively low on Pro and Scorpio it wouldn't necessarily be worth it financially to make 2 distinct premium console versions. Do u get that?

Goldby3276d ago

@Moldy
"You guys keep saying this without naming names because in reality it's Sony fans trying to project unrealistic expectations so that they can say it didn't meet this imaginary threshold."

how about you name off the sony fans who are projecting this unrealistic expectation.

don't worry moldy, i'll wait

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BigWan783280d ago

"Well, can I approach it from a different angle then and ask you, what do you think consoles of the future like Project Scorpio need to do to make the most of the MMO genre?

I would definitely say power is key. Memory is key. Especially in a game like The Elder Scrolls Online. There are hundreds of characters running around on the screen at any one time. We can have a 300 person battle in our game and that eats up memory. That eats up computing power and it eats up VRAM. So, the more they can pack into those newer consoles, the better."

IamTylerDurden13280d ago

I'm not surprised, TESO is native 4K on Pro. Ppl love to scoff at the non native 4K games on Pro and ignore the actual games that achieve it.

soulsx3280d ago

Scorpio is not much powerfull than ps4pro diferences in quality of games be only on resolution. But ps4 pro give us too high res in games. Normal player don't see a differences.

BigWan783280d ago (Edited 3280d ago )

@soulsx

but there's a difference between resolution and graphics...

4k resolution is 4k no matter how u slice the pie.. but when you talk textures/graphics, that can make it night and day difference even to the non-gamer...

i still think HDR is the true hotness though...